Jerry West shouldn't be the NBA logo and doesn't deserve the title "Mr Clutch"

[midnightpulp]

Seriously, how does this perennial loser whose greatest career accomplishment as a player was winning a Finals MVP in a losing effort deserve to be the NBA's logo?

He was 1-8 in the Finals and wasn't even the best player on that 72 championship team.

Losing defined his whole career. Even that famous half court shot came in a losing effort.

It's inconceivable how the NBA back then stamped their brand with a guy who wouldn't know winning if it dropped from the sky and fell on his face when they had Bill Russell available. Racism?

No one would know or care know who this guy is if he didn't GM his way into fame by signing Shaq and drafting Kobe. He'd likely be as relevant as Bob Pettit if not for that.

[milkshakeballa]

Don't feed the troll lkaer fans.


DO NOT FEED HIM!

[4>0rings]

He's white.

[PGDynasty24]

midnighpup once again obsessed with everything lakers

[lefty]

The Nike Air Jordan logo would be amazing

[midnightpulp]

It's amazing how many Lakers are regarded as legends despite being monumental failures.

Elgin Baylor - didn't win shit. He retires midseason and the Lakers magically win a title.

Wilt Chamberlain - got jizzed on repeatedly by Bill Russell. Also got owned by a one-legged Willis Reed. Finally broke through by owning Kareem.

Kareem - owned by the perennial bitch-slap fodder known as Wilt Chamberlain. enough said.

Magic - got the HIV during a time period when the only people getting HIV'ed up were homosexuals and drug addicts. Has the nerve to get offended when people put 2 and 2 together and wonder if he's gay.

James Worthy - owned by fake hookers.

Kobe - rape.

Shaq - had to wait for every decent center in the NBA to either get old or retire before he won shit.

:lmao

[Ghazi]

It's amazing how many Lakers are regarded as legends despite being monumental failures.

Elgin Baylor - didn't win shit. He retires midseason and the Lakers magically win a title.

Wilt Chamberlain - got jizzed on repeatedly by Bill Russell. Also got owned by a one-legged Willis Reed. Finally broke through by owning Kareem.

Kareem - owned by the perennial bitch-slap fodder known as Wilt Chamberlain. enough said.

Magic - got the HIV during a time period when the only people getting HIV'ed up were homosexuals and drug addicts. Has the nerve to get offended when people put 2 and 2 together and wonder if he's gay.

James Worthy - owned by fake hookers.

Kobe - rape.

Shaq - had to wait for every decent center in the NBA to either get old or retire before he won shit.

:lol

[Muser]

It's amazing how many Lakers are regarded as legends despite being monumental failures.

Elgin Baylor - didn't win shit. He retires midseason and the Lakers magically win a title.

Wilt Chamberlain - got jizzed on repeatedly by Bill Russell. Also got owned by a one-legged Willis Reed. Finally broke through by owning Kareem.

Kareem - owned by the perennial bitch-slap fodder known as Wilt Chamberlain. enough said.

Magic - got the HIV during a time period when the only people getting HIV'ed up were homosexuals and drug addicts. Has the nerve to get offended when people put 2 and 2 together and wonder if he's gay.

James Worthy - owned by fake hookers.

Kobe - rape.

Shaq - had to wait for every decent center in the NBA to either get old or retire before he won shit.

Bravo :lol

[21_Dickings]

Jerry West is a faggot of Koolaid_Man proportions.

[Galileo]

West > Kobe

[Biggems]

IMO, the logo should be either Cousy or Russell.

[milkshakeballa]

It's amazing how many Lakers are regarded as legends despite being monumental failures.

Elgin Baylor - didn't win shit. He retires midseason and the Lakers magically win a title.

Wilt Chamberlain - got jizzed on repeatedly by Bill Russell. Also got owned by a one-legged Willis Reed. Finally broke through by owning Kareem.

Kareem - owned by the perennial bitch-slap fodder known as Wilt Chamberlain. enough said.

Magic - got the HIV during a time period when the only people getting HIV'ed up were homosexuals and drug addicts. Has the nerve to get offended when people put 2 and 2 together and wonder if he's gay.

James Worthy - owned by fake hookers.

Kobe - rape.

Shaq - had to wait for every decent center in the NBA to either get old or retire before he won shit.


:lol:lol

[eyeh8u]

the logo should be kobe as he is murdering Micheal Jordan with a knife, im sure laker fans can agree with me on that

[mogrovejo]

IMO, the logo should be either Cousy or Russell.

Why? They have multiples rings, they don't need a freaking logo.

[LnGrrrR]

IMO, the logo should be either Cousy or Russell.

Jerry West was a great player, but I think Cousy would be a good logo. He brought the kind of showmanship that is still prevalent in the NBA, fancy passes and whatnot, as well as being a great player and winning multiple rings.

[BlackSwordsMan]

lebron will be the new logo soon don't worry

[SomeCallMeTim]

Seriously, how does this perennial loser whose greatest career accomplishment as a player was winning a Finals MVP in a losing effort deserve to be the NBA's logo?

He was 1-8 in the Finals and wasn't even the best player on that 72 championship team.

Losing defined his whole career. Even that famous half court shot came in a losing effort.

It's inconceivable how the NBA back then stamped their brand with a guy who wouldn't know winning if it dropped from the sky and fell on his face when they had Bill Russell available. Racism?

No one would know or care know who this guy is if he didn't GM his way into fame by signing Shaq and drafting Kobe. He'd likely be as relevant as Bob Pettit if not for that.


I thought there was a federal ban against fishing with dynamite.

[ginobili's bald spot]

Smells like bloody asshole in here. You can always tell the Lakers are about to bring home another LOB when threads like this start popping up left and right. :king It's good to know that OP spends so much time worrying about the greatness of the Lakers franchise. Jerry West is the logo because we run this shit! Everyone knows this. That's why you faggots always whine about Stern doing shit for the Lakers. So this obviously isn't a new concept to you. But I understand that you felt the need to make this thread because of the PAIINNNN you feel from getting swept out of the playoffs. Oh I feel the jealousy and envy in your posts. Does it hurt? Does it burn? :lol Keep it coming please. Your tears sustain me.

[TheManFromAcme]

Seriously, how does this perennial loser whose greatest career accomplishment as a player was winning a Finals MVP in a losing effort deserve to be the NBA's logo?

He was 1-8 in the Finals and wasn't even the best player on that 72 championship team.

Losing defined his whole career. Even that famous half court shot came in a losing effort.

It's inconceivable how the NBA back then stamped their brand with a guy who wouldn't know winning if it dropped from the sky and fell on his face when they had Bill Russell available. Racism?

No one would know or care know who this guy is if he didn't GM his way into fame by signing Shaq and drafting Kobe. He'd likely be as relevant as Bob Pettit if not for that.

Shame on you Pulp. :nope

You would think that some things in this game and it's history would be off limits then..... Poof! You get threads like this^

Dang Son. Bash on Kobe, Bynum, Phil, Odom, Magic, Kareem, Dr. Buss and the other characters in Laker-Camelot but keep one of the most respected, humble, gentlemen of the game out of this filth.

Even if you don't, the NBA will assure that you carry Jerry West and all that is Laker history on ANY OFFICIAL PIECE OF NBA merchanside you buy.

[midnightpulp]

Smells like bloody asshole in here. You can always tell the Lakers are about to bring home another LOB when threads like this start popping up left and right. :king It's good to know that OP spends so much time worrying about the greatness of the Lakers franchise. Jerry West is the logo because we run this shit! Everyone knows this. That's why you faggots always whine about Stern doing shit for the Lakers. So this obviously isn't a new concept to you. But I understand that you felt the need to make this thread because of the PAIINNNN you feel from getting swept out of the playoffs. Oh I feel the jealousy and envy in your posts. Does it hurt? Does it burn? :lol Keep it coming please. Your tears sustain me.

:sleep

Wake me up when you have an original comeback. The "jealously" card, ouch, buuurrrrnnnnn.


Facts are:

Lakers weren't running shit when West was christened the NBA's logo.
Jerry West and the Lakers were perennial losers.
Bill Russell was the top dog in town.
Even players like the aforementioned Bob Pettit won before West.

Seriously, what did this guy do to deserve such an honor?

Oh, he was white.

It's funny how you Laker fagtards can never argue the points when someone criticizes one of your beloved Purple n Piss fairies, past or present. You simply pull out the "hater" card. Even when your butt-buddy Luva spews his brand of bullshit, people still take the time to argue his points, which usually results in him getting his shit owned and starting another worthless thread.

I said nothing that was untrue or even denigrating about Jerry West. I simply made a statement and you Laker homers came running with pitchforks and torches in hand.

Pathetic fuckin' fanbase.

[ginobili's bald spot]

:sleep

Wake me up when you have an original comeback. The "jealously" card, ouch, buuurrrrnnnnn.

the truth hurts.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154533

It's even obvious to non laker fans. It's embarrassing man. Have some dignity.

[midnightpulp]

the truth hurts.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154533

It's even obvious to non laker fans. It's embarrassing man. Have some dignity.

Check my response in that thread.

[midnightpulp]

Ok, asshole. You want to deal with facts? Let's go. The truth is West probably shouldn't be the Logo. Personally, I'd pick Mikan or Russell, but no one really challenges this issue because he's such a nice guy, and no one really gives a fuck but losers like you. He was the the first true marketable star of the NBA. Good looking wholesome kid with a great jumper, a nice handle, and a knack for hitting clutch shots. The game wasn't known during Mikan's days, Russel was black (couldn't have a nigga being the Logo of a white man's sport), and there were no other big name players that fit the bill. They didn't honor him with the Logo because he was the best, but it was his image.

You Spurs fans should have no problem with this because your very own has been honored with a title that is extremely far from true. No one really cares if you all call Duncan the greatest power forward of all time. No one is going to question that he was really a center. No one is going to question that he was never really great at nothing. He wasn't a great scorer, he wasn't a great rebounder, he wasn't a great shot blocker, he was just consistent, that's all. Not to mention, Karl Malone has 16,000 more points scored and 4,000 more boards than Duncan!!!:wow No one is going to make a big stink over you guys honoring him this way, why? Because he's a nice guy.:wakeup

You're logic is extremely inconsistent. You're the one who is always placing more importance on post-season performance over regular season performance, which is true and something I agree with, but when it comes to Duncan, your obsession, you conveniently forget that.

Duncan's playoff resume absolutely crushes Malone's. So what if Malone played until was 70 and amassed a great of regular season stats, when the playoffs rolled around, his efficiency dropped dramatically, while Duncan elevated his game.

Look at the stats, revisit the games, there's only been a handful of players better than Duncan in the playoffs. You personally saw him close down the Forum and send 3 peat packing with 33-17 on 70% and 36-17 on 60 something percent, both road closeout games, but yet you can never put your pride aside, be objective, and give credit where it's fuckin due.

And I don't give a shit about best PF of all time label. At the end of the day, he's a top ten player of all time and it's well deserved.

[dallasmavsnfuego214]

Atta boy midnight! Give em hell!

Nothing shows ownage like 4 paragraph responses, that'll show em!

[ginobili's bald spot]

Atta boy midnight! Give em hell!

Nothing shows ownage like 4 paragraph responses, that'll show em!

:lol He's going to prove to you how NOT trolled he is by writing a 10 page essay.

[Ghazi]

Smells like bloody asshole in here. You can always tell the Lakers are about to bring home another LOB when threads like this start popping up left and right. :king It's good to know that OP spends so much time worrying about the greatness of the Lakers franchise. Jerry West is the logo because we run this shit! Everyone knows this. That's why you faggots always whine about Stern doing shit for the Lakers. So this obviously isn't a new concept to you. But I understand that you felt the need to make this thread because of the PAIINNNN you feel from getting swept out of the playoffs. Oh I feel the jealousy and envy in your posts. Does it hurt? Does it burn? :lol Keep it coming please. Your tears sustain me.

:lol

[midnightpulp]

No he's no top 10. He's barely top 10 in the league today. Nothing about his game or stats makes him top 10. Stats don't lie. He's not top 10 in anything, not one aspect of the game. If so, prove it with stats. Don't give me this shit about "oh he shut down the Forum with a great game." Go suck a cock. In fact, hes not even better than Barkely. A prime Barkely would wear Ducan's ass out. You put KG on the Spurs, and you get the same results.

Stats don't lie and he ranks 4 or 5 overall in playoff PER all time. And all PER is combining the measurable stats into one easy number. I know you hate the metric, cause Kobe don't even scratch the surface when compared to all the true all time greats.

But hey, you're absolutely entitled to think Duncan is overrated.

Likewise, I think Kobe is the most overrated player in league history. Not one great Finals performance. On the all time worst Finals performance list. Many playoff runs where he shot below 45%.

You put Tracy McGrady with Shaq during the 3 peat, you get the same results.

So touche.

[midnightpulp]

:lol He's going to prove to you how NOT trolled he is by writing a 10 page essay.

Since when does a couple hundred words constitute a 10 page essay?

I know Laker fans are dumb and borderline illiterate, but there's no heavy reading being thrown about in here.

Nice try at your little burn, though. God forbid someone put a little effort into actually having a basketball discussion on a forum for basketball discussion.

[ginobili's bald spot]

Since when does a couple hundred words constitute a 10 page essay?

I know Laker fans are dumb and borderline illiterate, but there's no heavy reading being thrown about in here.

Nice try at your little burn, though. God forbid someone put a little effort into actually having a basketball discussion on a forum for basketball discussion.

Fortunately as an illiterate I understand the concept of hyperbole.

And a big lol goes out to how emotional this dude gets. Keep fighting the good fight little guy!

[midnightpulp]

I'm glad you brought this PER shit up, nerd. As if greatness can be measured by numbers alone. Tell you what. Kobe is well on his way to defending his title for the third time, while Duncan has yet to do it once. How's that for playoff performances. With all of his great PER's, the motherfuccer hasn't even come close to defending his title.

Can't win them all. Hasn't come close? Duncan was injured in 00. And in 04, 06, and 08, the Spurs lost to the eventual WC Champions all three times. And you're the one who asked for stats and I obliged you, now when the stats don't fall in line with your perception of things, you conveniently dismiss them. Well played.

And if you want to talk intangibles, read what Bill Russell has to say about Duncan in that area. Especially his passing.

Results don't lie. Sure Duncan's teams never repeated (neither has Kobe's, remember, those were Shaq's teams) but at the end of the day, he and the Spurs sucked it up and got it back.

Results: Phil/Shaq/Kobe Lakers - 4 Ships
Duncan/Pop - 4 Ships.

Duncan 3 Finals MVPs
Shaq 3 Finals MVPs
Kobe 1 Finals MVPs :lol

If he was so great and transcendent, why was he never the best player on any of those 3 peat teams? Even in 01 when Kobe was on fire, Shaq still crushed his ass statistically.

As a Laker poster colleague of your would say,

"Quit hating."

[midnightpulp]

Arguing with you is like riding a merry go round. My horse is still going strong, while your is faded.

Nice comeback.

Anyhow, you're right, this is a merry go-round. You're too prideful to admit error, own up, and give some credit where it's due, even when faced with a legitimate argument.

And I ain't never gonna buy the fact that Kobe is a top 10 great until he leads his team to multiple titles.

Man of my word, he does it this year, he's totally deserving. Until then, he's in the same tier with the subject of this very thread.

[BRHornet45]

He's white.

son that fact alone is the main reason why the logo should be changed. You wouldn't want a black man on the logo of NASCAR would you?