Vince Young

[Edward]

lol suicide

[MateoNeygro]

wtf?

[Mixability]

?

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

yep

[jag]

I agree.

[Spursfan092120]

XPXoK4Rb62k

[Dr. Gonzo]

How hard would 90210 jack off if VY was on the Cowboys? Would his pussy be blistered because of the amount of fingering he would do to himself? I think this question really needs to be examined.

[Spursfan092120]

How hard would 90210 jack off if VY was on the Cowboys? Would his pussy be blistered because of the amount of fingering he would do to himself? I think this question really needs to be examined.
Actually, I wouldn't want him on the Cowboys, to be honest. His style wouldn't work well with the offense we have under Jason Garrett. But your obsession with sex in a room of men is pretty creepy...You just can't handle that Vince had a successful season, and that's ok...go ahead and hate...it's what you do best. :toast

[Dr. Gonzo]

So you are saying your vagina would actually be raw from insertion.

That sounds about right.

[SpursTillTheEnd]

vince young is a beast where the fuck is matt leinhert,brady quinn, and all them who were supposed to be better than vy ?

[Blake]

vince young is a beast where the fuck is matt leinhert,brady quinn, and all them who were supposed to be better than vy ?

who said that Leinart or Quinn were supposed to be better than VY?

[monosylab1k]

w

[dirk4mvp]

who said that Leinart or Quinn were supposed to be better than VY?

People who enjoy revising history. Kobe fans are king at this, VY fans don't have a problem doing it either.


How hard would 90210 jack off if VY was on the Cowboys? Would his pussy be blistered because of the amount of fingering he would do to himself? I think this question really needs to be examined.


crofl

[Kermit]

people who enjoy revising history. Kobe fans are king at this, vy fans don't have a problem doing it either.



Crofl

sneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad!

[Merrill Hoge]

There was another prominent media member who said the same thing....who was that?

It was me.

[dirk4mvp]

When I don't have anything important to say, which is basically all of my posts, I change subject.

[stretch]

LMAO snead

[dirk4mvp]

LMAO stretch the Eagles/Raiders/Steelers/Cowboys/Redskins fan

[dirk4mvp]

People just don't like it when someone doesn't think Vince Young is on his way to becoming the best player ever do they? :cry

[stretch]

LMAO stretch the Eagles/Raiders/Steelers/Cowboys/Redskins fan

LMAO colts

[Dr. Gonzo]

lol Texans
lol getting owned by VY at home twice
lol Brian Cushing

[mookie2001]

Reply

[DAF86]

... Will be the next superbowl MVP.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I jacked off to VY highlights four times last tuesday :smokin


-Horry

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I jacked off to VY highlights four times last tuesday :smokin


-Horry

[Kermit]

Sneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeead!!!!

[dirk4mvp]

Can I please be in the mookie crew?! :cry :cry

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

... Will be the next superbowl MVP.


:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao

[Kermit]

Where was Sneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeead drafted again?

[stretch]

lol snead

[dirk4mvp]

Snead, Young, and Graham Harrell all have the same chance of receiving a SuperBowl MVP.

[dirk4mvp]

lol snead

lol fan of 5 teams

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lol fan of 5 teams

lol raiders
lol mavs
lol longhorns
lol rangers
lol stars

lol you are right

lol colts
lol saints
lol chargers
lol fail

[dirk4mvp]

lol raiders/eagles/cowboys/titans/steelers/redskins
lol mavs
lol longhorns
lol rangers
lol stars


crofl

[Biggems]

what does Snead have to do with Vince....Snead was in competition with Colt.

BTW, Vince is the man.....Fuck that pussy pretty boy over in the desert.

HOOK EM

[DesignatedT]

vince is a joke. if the guy had half a brain then maybe he could amount to something in the NFL.. but no

[Spursfan092120]

vince is a joke. if the guy had half a brain then maybe he could amount to something in the NFL.. but no
Guess you missed the Pro Bowl appearance, offensive rookie of the year, most rushing yards by a rookie QB in NFL history...things like that..yeah..he hasn't done anything at all. Dude was looking really good before his injury.

[mookie2001]

Wonderlick smack still?



I'll call it now in this forum when the titans win it'll be because of coaching and CJ, when they lose it'll be because vince is dumb


People will cry nut hug and hookie crew and wonderlick and suicide

Forever.

Because we already know Brady Quinn and Jamarcus Russell and Matt leinart suck. Vince has to prove he doesn't suck with win after win

[Kermit]

Shit.

DPD: Quarterback Vince Young Suspected Of Assault
DALLAS (CBS 11 / TXA 21) ―

Tennessee Titans quarterback Vince Young is the prime suspect in a Saturday night assault at a Dallas strip club that left an individual with bodily injury, an official with the Dallas Police Department said Sunday.

No warrant has been issued, but police say Young is the prime suspect. The altercation allegedly broke out after words were exchanged at Club Onyx on 10557 Wire Way. Police believe Young left the scene before officers arrived, a DPD official said.

The Houston native was drafted by the Tennessee Titans with the third overall pick in the NFL Draft in 2006. He is known for leading his alma mater, the University of Texas, to a national championship in 2006. He threw for 467 yards in that win against the University of Southern California.

He remains the starting quarterback for the Nashville-based Tennessee Titans.

[Edward]

Just when VYfan thinks he's about to burst onto the scene this year as a starter, he does this :lmao

[Roddy Beaubois]

:lmao

[Edward]

rofl Kermit in this thread. Can the Mookie Crew just invite him the next time they go to Whottt's house for a coke binge so he feels included?

[Blake]

http://media.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/raiders/vince-young-shirtless.jpg

[DesignatedT]

DPD: Quarterback Vince Young Suspected Of Assault
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Tennessee Titans quarterback Vince Young is the prime suspect in a Saturday night assault at a Dallas strip club that left an individual with bodily injury, an official with the Dallas Police Department said Sunday.

No warrant has been issued, but police say Young is the prime suspect. The altercation allegedly broke out after words were exchanged at Club Onyx on 10557 Wire Way. Police believe Young left the scene before officers arrived, a DPD official said.

The Houston native was drafted by the Tennessee Titans with the third overall pick in the NFL Draft in 2006. He is known for leading his alma mater, the University of Texas, to a national championship in 2006. He threw for 467 yards in that win against the University of Southern California.

He remains the starting quarterback for the Nashville-based Tennessee Titans.

(© MMX, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.)



http://cbs11tv.com/local/vince.young.suspect.2.1748889.html

[DesignatedT]

DPD: Quarterback Vince Young Suspected Of Assault
DALLAS (CBS 11 / TXA 21) ―

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Tennessee Titans quarterback Vince Young is the prime suspect in a Saturday night assault at a Dallas strip club that left an individual with bodily injury, an official with the Dallas Police Department said Sunday.

No warrant has been issued, but police say Young is the prime suspect. The altercation allegedly broke out after words were exchanged at Club Onyx on 10557 Wire Way. Police believe Young left the scene before officers arrived, a DPD official said.

The Houston native was drafted by the Tennessee Titans with the third overall pick in the NFL Draft in 2006. He is known for leading his alma mater, the University of Texas, to a national championship in 2006. He threw for 467 yards in that win against the University of Southern California.

He remains the starting quarterback for the Nashville-based Tennessee Titans.

(© MMX, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.)



http://cbs11tv.com/local/vince.young.suspect.2.1748889.html

[mookie_crew]

rofl


dallas media

blowing this shit out of proportion

yew jesst kent dew tings like det

[Hooks]

JA7yl-RiMms

[MookieCrew]

vince young still chode bloaded usc i saaaiiiddddd. i don't know what it is but the cromination of pete zero title cheater dynasty carroll and the ting brothers is good enough for corso.

most likely he assaulted a usc cheater. too bad he'll hafta talk to the ollllllll ball coach efter det one.

[MookieCrew]

rofl


dallas media

blowing this shit out of proportion

yew jesst kent dew tings like det

ha!

dets what i woulda done

[gaKNOW!blee]

Guess you missed the Pro Bowl appearance, offensive rookie of the year, most rushing yards by a rookie QB in NFL history...things like that..yeah..he hasn't done anything at all. Dude was looking really good before his injury.

lol 7 more INT than TD.

[Goran Dragic]

lol 7 more INT than TD.


On this forum there are several QB's who throw more interceptions than touchdowns but are heralded beyond belief. Chad Henne is the next Dan Marino even though for his career he has 12 TDs and 14 interceptions, and Vince Young when he retired will be the G.O.A.T. QB regardless of how little TD passes he throws.

[gaKNOW!blee]

On this forum there are several QB's who throw more interceptions than touchdowns but are heralded beyond belief. Chad Henne is the next Dan Marino even though for his career he has 12 TDs and 14 interceptions, and Vince Young when he retired will be the G.O.A.T. QB regardless of how little TD passes he throws.

Maybe not on this forum...but people do this same thing with Mark Sanchez.

[DAF86]

http://www.robinsondesign.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/w-towers.jpg

[Goran Dragic]

Maybe not on this forum...but people do this same thing with Mark Sanchez.


Same with Freeman and Stafford. I don't think Sanchez, Freeman and/or Stafford are gonna suck, they just get too much credit for the rookie season they had as if they did something to show they're future franchise QB's, none of them had anything close to a good season except for maybe Sanchez just because he was lucky enough to be on a stacked team that could make a playoff run as long as their QB didn't completely blow.

[Goran Dragic]

I don't know why so much hate for Henne.


No one would say anything about Henne if you didn't slob his knob so much acting like he's a proven commodity, the same thing applies to almost all mediocre player who get their knob slobbed. The only reason this thread was made was too piss off Vincefan who is really sensitive to comments about how VY isn't that good.

[Dr. Gonzo]

He has all the tools to be elite.

So did Jamarcuss Russell, David Carr, Akili Smith, Ryan Leaf, and Brady Quinn.

[MookieCrew]

i'm just disappointed he was in dallas

north texas? more like south oklahoma i saaiiiiddd

[Goran Dragic]

No. Jamarcus Russell never flashed on NFL Level and is quite possibly the stupidest person in the history of mankind.

David Carr never flashed. He always sucked. He is a giant flaming vagina in the pocket and has no calmness about him when he's in the pocket. He makes everyone else ancy and nervous and has 0 leadership qualities.

Akili Smith - See Jamarcus Russell

Ryan Leaf - See Jamarcus Russell/Akili Smith.

Brady Quinn- NEVER flashed once on NFL level and again cannot lead. He sucks ass when his reads break and barely can make a 1-2 read when doing a 5 step drop back on the NFL level.

None of these QBs have flashed anything on the NFL level.


Pick a lane and stick with it. "Having all the tools" and "flashing at an NFL level" are two different things. David Carr had no calmness in the pocket because his pass protection was dog shit, good luck finding a lot of other people who think David Carr and Ryan Leaf didn't have all the tools an NFL QB needs.

[Kermit]

So the dude did horns down and Vince poped him. Fuck yes.

[Dr. Gonzo]

So the dude did horns down and Vince poped him. Fuck yes.

Yeah it's really smart for a NFL QB to hit someone for doing a lame ass hand signal. He is a really bright guy.

[IronMexican]

i'm just disappointed he was in dallas

:rollin

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Same with Freeman and Stafford. I don't think Sanchez, Freeman and/or Stafford are gonna suck, they just get too much credit for the rookie season they had as if they did something to show they're future franchise QB's, none of them had anything close to a good season except for maybe Sanchez just because he was lucky enough to be on a stacked team that could make a playoff run as long as their QB didn't completely blow.

Sanchez got the most pub and he arguably played the worst considering each QB's supporting cast.

To his credit though, he looked much better in the playoffs.

[Spursfan092120]

Truth is, if he did it, (I haven't really kept up with it, to be honest)he's a freaking idiot. Has a great end of the season, an opportunity to turn his career around and showcase his talents, and does some stupid shit like this. Really irritating from a fan's perspective.

[Harry Callahan]

I just saw the VY scuffle video on Channel 8 Dallas. An idiot who went to high school in Oklahoma who happens to be an assistant manager of a Dallas strip club flashes a "Horns Down" sign and pops off to VY as he enters the club. VY responds with his fist connecting to Okie's mouth. Okie then assumes the fetal position. Game. Set. Match.

Bad stuff can happen at 3:30 in the morning at a Dallas Gentleman's club. The cops say it is a misdemeanor assault charge for Young.

[Dr. Gonzo]

I'm sure his teammates will appreciate him risking a suspension for some juvenile shit.

[dirk4mvp]

future SuperBowl MVP Vince Young :tu

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Smart move by VY.

[Kermit]

Give that man a bonus.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

You can have all the tools in the world, but you need to flash at some point in your beginning and able to lead a team to give hope for your coaches and franchise.


:lmao right, Chad Henne has all the tools, and he hasn't "flashed" anything yet.

[LakerHater]

QtxdwHjbBPI

[gaKNOW!blee]

I dont know why your laughing when you witnessed him raping your Patriots in a comeback victory and dismantling the number 1 defense twice in one season.

yeah but then he threw like 100 interceptions against the Bills.

[manufan10]

Wow, Vince Young is stupid. I wonder if the Commish is going to suspend him.

[monosylab1k]

I dont know why your laughing when you witnessed him raping your Patriots in a comeback victory and dismantling the number 1 defense twice in one season.

true, it takes a great QB to be the leader of the greatest 7-9 team in NFL history.

[mookie2001]

Wow, Vince Young is stupid. I wonder if the Commish is going to suspend him.I didn't know a ticket could get a player with clear standing suspended

[manufan10]

I didn't know a ticket could get a player with clear standing suspended

I didn't know that is was just a ticket. I thought charges were going to be filed, tbh.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

The team sucked last year mostly due to injuries and Gibril Wilson being the worst NFL player of all time.

I dont know many teams that can go to the playoffs that lose their..

Starting:
QB
RB
TE
C
LG
NT
MLB
CB

Backup:
RB
CB
C

Wait so Chad Pennington was their starting QB? Henne must be good if the only way he could get the starter's job over Pennington is an injury.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Cerebral maybe, successful no.

[LOL texans]

He's not getting suspended for a ticket.

I know he should know better...but is was kind of kick-ass the way he threw down on that fool for flashing the upside down horns.

[manufan10]

Vince Young is worried about a suspension:


"I pray to God that Roger Goodell doesn't come down hard on me, because I definitely want to be here for my teammates," Young said.

Jeff Fisher:


"The league will look into it. The commissioner is very strict about these types of things and I am sure we'll hear from him after we get more information."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5285535

[manufan10]

From the AFC South Blog one ESPN:

I’m heading out to Titans practice shortly and will bring you reaction from the team and from Vince Young (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=9589), assuming he talks, following his Sunday citation (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5282771) for misdemeanor assault in a strip-club fight.

http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nfl/players/65/9589.jpg
Young
For all the debate Young has stirred up in his four seasons with the Titans, he’s been a good citizen. Does this development dent that résumé?

Under the personal conduct policy (http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/21598/nfl-personal-conduct-policy), the league tends to be lenient for first-time offenders. But with all of the negative attention brought to the NFL by Ben Roethlisberger (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=5536) this offseason -- and I’m not comparing what Young did to what Roethlisberger is alleged to have done -- the spotlight on players got even brighter.

I wonder if commissioner Roger Goodell is a bit quicker to discipline a player who put himself in a bad situation now.

It’s been categorized as equivalent to a traffic citation and comes with a maximum fine of $500. Do the setting and behavior make it bigger than that to Goodell?

Will Young be disciplined by Goodell? Should he be?

I’m curious to hear where you stand.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/tag/_/name/vince-young-61410

[benefactor]

A comment and a hand gesture? How stupid can you be?

Thanks for the national title Vince. I'm sure glad Houston didn't draft your dumb ass.

[monosylab1k]

A comment and a hand gesture? How stupid can you be?

Thanks for the national title Vince. I'm sure glad Houston didn't draft your dumb ass.

lol texans fan talking shit.

Vince Young and Reggie Bush have had more NFL success than anybody on your shitty team.

[DAF86]

lol texans fan talking shit.

Vince Young and Reggie Bush have had more NFL success than anybody on your shitty team.

True, true.

[Edward]

lol Matt "stump the" Schaub > VY

[Dr. Gonzo]

All VY does is win games. He is the black Tim Tebow.

[samikeyp]

All VY does is win games. He is the black Tim Tebow.

No...Tebow is the white Vince Young. :toast

:lol

[monosylab1k]

I'm pretty sure Andre Johnson shits on Reggie Bush and Vince Young combined into one.

Reggie's SB ring and Vince's trip to the playoffs say otherwise.

Imagine if Andre Johnson had Chad Henne for his QB! They'd be so badass they'd lead a team to an 8-8 record :wow

[manufan10]

Reggie's SB ring and Vince's trip to the playoffs say otherwise.

Imagine if Andre Johnson had Chad Henne for his QB! They'd be so badass they'd lead a team to an 8-8 record :wow

:lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Imagine if Andre Johnson had Chad Henne for his QB! They'd be so badass they'd lead a team to an 8-8 record :wow


:lmao

They could run the wildcuck offense with Andre Johnson, it'd be like det one time two years ago when the Dolphins beat the CHEATriots (who had a QB making his 2nd career start) with the wildcuck!

[Dr. Gonzo]

Reggie's SB ring and Vince's trip to the playoffs say otherwise.

Imagine if Andre Johnson had Chad Henne for his QB! They'd be so badass they'd lead a team to an 8-8 record :wow

That would make the Dolphins the greatest 8-8 team in NFL history.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

2 touchdowns 1 interception......what a performance for the ages

GZYeA4XS0Rk

[IronMexican]

No god damn ###### music.

[dirk4mvp]

Bg1IufWl3BQ

[dirk4mvp]

lmao ball for 3 quarters

lmao still lost

lmao wildcuck not good enough

[dirk4mvp]

actually it was good enough. it got them the lead with 2 minutes left

The Colts took the final lead with well over 3 minutes left.

it left their regular, non sissy offense in complete shambles and completely nonfunctional, as attested to that dogshit drive they tried to pull off in the final mintutes of the game. so no, it wasn't good enough.

[IronMexican]

http://c1-preview.prosites.com/17480/wy/images/Tracy%20Porter%20Super%20Bowl.jpg

[dirk4mvp]

my fingers kinda hurt or I'd type out all the lol raiders since the tuck game.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

335 yards and not having Ronnie Brown, yes I think thats fine that he came back and beat the Patriots.


He needed 52 pass attempts to get 335, that's 6.4 yards per attempt against a mediocre pass defense, quit acting like he played extremely well against them. If Chad Henne's claim to fame is leading a game winning FG drive against the 2010 Patriots that only proves how much you overrate him.

Literally the same exact thing happened for Kyle Orton a few weeks earlier because of how badly New England's offense fell apart in the 2nd half of games last year which led to the defense having to be on the field a ton and eventually falling apart in the 4th quarter. The only difference is Orton's numbers were slightly more impressive.

[Roddy Beaubois]

http://drunkathlete.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/chad-henne-michigan-wolverines-2-drunk-pictures1.jpg

[Roddy Beaubois]

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb56/cyclone2426/Chad-Henne-Cover.jpg

[Roddy Beaubois]

I was actually pretty impressed from what I saw of Henne last year. Interested to see this year if he is worth a shit.

[manufan10]

No god damn ###### music.

:lol

[monosylab1k]

He needed 52 pass attempts to get 335, that's 6.4 yards per attempt against a mediocre pass defense, quit acting like he played extremely well against them. If Chad Henne's claim to fame is leading a game winning FG drive against the 2010 Patriots that only proves how much you overrate him.

Literally the same exact thing happened for Kyle Orton a few weeks earlier because of how badly New England's offense fell apart in the 2nd half of games last year which led to the defense having to be on the field a ton and eventually falling apart in the 4th quarter. The only difference is Orton's numbers were slightly more impressive.

imho last year Brady might have had his worst season ever. His numbers look good because he curbstomped the Titans and Jaguars, take those two games away and he was almost Chad Henne bad.

Brady getting back on track = Super Bowl

[IronMexican]

I think 2008 was worse.

[monosylab1k]

I think 2008 was worse.

Brady out for the season > Brady in 2009, tbh.

Carson Palmer bounced back, Brady will too.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Tbh mono this is a more cynical view but I think they have more concerns than Tom Brady returning to form if they're gonna get back to the superbowl. imho they're gonna need better play from the O-line and weapons for Brady other than Welker and Moss.

Their defense is far from the abortion the media portrays it to be, it played really well last year given the lack of experience, the big concerns on that side of the ball is depth at corner beyond Bodden and Butler, which hopefully comes with McCourtney and a bounce back year from Wheatley, along with better play from the linebackers which seems reasonable if McKenzie is healthy and if Spikes can gouge some niggas eyes out.

The AFC seems pretty wide open right now. The Chargers are prolly gonna lose Vincent Jackson and Marcus McNeil, the Jets still start Mark Sanchez, lol Colts, and Pittsburgh sucks. The team that might be really scary this year is Baltimore.

[stretch]

AFC's elite this year

1st Tier

Colts
Ravens

2nd Tier

Patriots
Titans
Bengals
Chargers

Possibly elite, possibly suckass

Steelers
Jets
Dolphins

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Agreed w/ the Ravens part, they're the team I'd pick right now, especially if Ed Reed and Terrell Suggs can come back healthy. On D they added tons of depth at D-line and linebacker, and on offense they made major improvements at receiver and tight end. Boldin's health won't be a huge issue since most of his injuries had a lot to do with Warner or Leinart leaving him suseptible to a bad hit.

[stretch]

Agreed w/ the Ravens part, they're the team I'd pick right now, especially if Ed Reed and Terrell Suggs can come back healthy. On D they added tons of depth at D-line and linebacker, and on offense they made major improvements at receiver and tight end. Boldin's health won't be a huge issue since most of his injuries had a lot to do with Warner or Leinart leaving him suseptible to a bad hit.

me too

[monosylab1k]

Tbh mono this is a more cynical view but I think they have more concerns than Tom Brady returning to form if they're gonna get back to the superbowl. imho they're gonna need better play from the O-line and weapons for Brady other than Welker and Moss.

I don't think they do, really. Brady never had big weapons on offense in his career, other than 1 good year of Corey Dillon, and then 2007. Assuming Brady is back to full strength this season, he just needs guys that are dependable rather than playmakers. I think he's got that in his receivers (I think Edelman could do a pretty good Deion Branch impersonation), the question is his RB's. Before Corey Dillon, Antowain Smith was always unspectacular but dependable. Maroney is far from dependable and Fred Taylor/Sammy Morris are always hurt. If just one of them can stay healthy, they'll be fine.

Brady's biggest asset was never his passing ability, it was his fearlessness in the pocket and his ability to sidestep pressure. All last season that asset was completely missing. Unless he had picture perfect blocking, he was uneasy in the pocket, never setting his feet, and throwing off his back foot a whole lot.

If he can get that comfort in the pocket with pressure around him, the Patriots are SB contenders again. If his injury has forever scarred his psyche, then it's time for the Zac Robinson dynasty.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Tbh having David Patten also helps in the dependable department since that's a receiver Brady knows and trusts. When I said weapons I basically meant receivers he was comfortable throwing to, not necessarily playmakers. Last year, it sure as hell seemed like he was uncomfortable throwing to anyone other than Moss and Welker, and he seemed lost when those two were defended well. It very well coud be that his injury played some role in him not being comfortable working through his progressions in the pocket and panicking if Moss and Welker weren't open. If that's the case then it's not a big deal.

[Blake]

I think the Pats defense has too many question marks to be contenders, even if Brady plays at mvp levels.

[stretch]

I think the Pats defense has too many question marks to be contenders, even if Brady plays at mvp levels.

+1

I mean it's possible that the defense may step up and consistently play well, but over the past few years, every year pats fans would talk about how 3 or 4 different defensive players that were about to break out and have a monster year or something and that the defense would be beastly, but it never happened. I don't see any reason to believe this year will be different. But we will see.

[Edward]

Patriots' defense was top 5 in points allowed per game last year. If the Saints can win a superbowl with the defense they had, then New England can win with their D. The big problem with them is consistency since they had a few games and halves where they laid an egg, but there is all kinds of talent on that side of the ball the only question is how cohesive the talent is.

[stretch]

Patriots' defense was top 5 in points allowed per game last year. If the Saints can win a superbowl with the defense they had, then New England can win with their D. The big problem with them is consistency since they had a few games and halves where they laid an egg, but there is all kinds of talent on that side of the ball the only question is how cohesive the talent is.

PPG = overrated stat IMO

especially in a division with teams that were not very good offensively. Miami was the best, and they are middle of the pack in terms of both PPG and YPG. jets and bills both sucked far worse.

also, Saints offense > Patriots offense

[Edward]

I never said Saints offense < Patriots offense, just sayin' that it's possible to win a superbowl with New England's defense. One reason why I think New England's line is gonna need to play better is because New England is gonna need a powerhouse offense to be a superbowl contender this year.

[Blake]

Patriots' defense was top 5 in points allowed per game last year. If the Saints can win a superbowl with the defense they had, then New England can win with their D. The big problem with them is consistency since they had a few games and halves where they laid an egg, but there is all kinds of talent on that side of the ball the only question is how cohesive the talent is.

Ravens rattled off 33 against the Pats in the wild card game.

I know they had the big run from Ray Rice and a short field thanks to Brady's crappy 1st quarter, but that doesn't really excuse them from keeping the Ravens out of the end zone, imo.

[Edward]

lol 1 game sample size

And yeah, the defense played like shit in that game. Like I said, consistency. They have games where they look great and games where they lay an egg. Also as you mentioned the offense got them in a lot of trouble over the course of the year (sup 4th and 2).

[stretch]

I never said Saints offense < Patriots offense, just sayin' that it's possible to win a superbowl with New England's defense. One reason why I think New England's line is gonna need to play better is because New England is gonna need a powerhouse offense to be a superbowl contender this year.

What I'm trying to say is, I don't think New England can beat the Colts unless they get better defense.

Colts and Ravens both stand in their way. They need better defense for the Colts, and they need more versatility on offense to beat the Ravens.

[Edward]

What I'm trying to say is, I don't think New England can beat the Colts unless they get better defense.

Colts and Ravens both stand in their way. They need better defense for the Colts, and they need more versatility on offense to beat the Ravens.


Dude, they more or less had the game against Indy wrapped up last year and that game was in Indy. If Bell Belichick doesn't royally fuck up managing timeouts/challenges/punting on 4th and 2 New England wins the game. They for all intensive purposes outplayed Indy. The defense fell apart against Indy because of how much it was on the field in the 2nd half, it was fatigued as shit.

And yeah, they need a better offense to beat Baltimore, which is why I have a lot more concern on the offensive side of the ball than the defensive side. I'm not content with how the defense played last year, but in my book the offense is a bigger question mark this year than the defense is.

[monosylab1k]

The biggest problem last season was that Belichick gambled and lost that 1) the team could survive without Seymour and that 2) Derrick Burgess could fill that pass rushing hole. Not having Vrabel/Bruschi/Seymour in the locker room was also huge.

In the end it was worth it because Belichick probably knew before the season that Brady and the defense were another year or two away from being real contenders, so trading Seymour for a future 1st rounder was a better long term move.

The defense has so much youth that it still might be another year from really coming together. But there's so much damn talent that they're going to be beastly when it all comes together. Mayo and Meriweather appear to have matured alot in terms of both of them saying they want to be the new leaders of the defense, I think Brandon Spikes could be that type of locker room guy too, as long as he's not trying to gouge anyone's eyes out.

[monosylab1k]

tbh DoK I'm kinda surprised you think Brady doesn't have passing weapons outside of Moss/Welker.....have you forgotten we now have Rob "I'm a bad motherfucker" Gronkowski?

also, Hernandez is going to beast too. Gronk/Hernandez will be the killer TE duo that Dallas would have if Martellus Bennett ever puts as much effort into football as he does his YouTube videos.

[monosylab1k]

tbh DoK I'm kinda surprised you think Brady doesn't have passing weapons outside of Moss/Welker.....have you forgotten we now have Rob "I'm a bad motherfucker" Gronkowski?

also, Hernandez is going to beast too. Gronk/Hernandez will be the killer TE duo that Dallas would have if Martellus Bennett ever puts as much effort into football as he does his YouTube videos.

[Edward]

Depending on which of the 2008 recruiting class receivers enter early this year, that Raiders 1st rounder can potentially be used on Moss's replacement, preferably AJ Green or Jonathan Baldwin.

[Blake]

lol 1 game sample size

And yeah, the defense played like shit in that game. Like I said, consistency. They have games where they look great and games where they lay an egg. Also as you mentioned the offense got them in a lot of trouble over the course of the year (sup 4th and 2).

wtf? It was a playoff game. If you can't contend in the playoffs then you aren't a contender. Pretty simple.

The offense is less of a question than the defense, imo.

I could easily see Brady throwing for 4000+ and 35+ and still coming up with a 10-6 record.

[stretch]

Dude, they more or less had the game against Indy wrapped up last year and that game was in Indy. If Bell Belichick doesn't royally fuck up managing timeouts/challenges/punting on 4th and 2 New England wins the game. They for all intensive purposes outplayed Indy. The defense fell apart against Indy because of how much it was on the field in the 2nd half, it was fatigued as shit.

That could all be true. Then we could also make excuses on Indy's side, people could say they made a lot of uncharacteristic mistakes, etc... just like Bill did. Fact is, Pats lost. The bigger issue from that game, is that they made the seemingly dumb mistake, because they were scared shitless of Peyton Manning. You could see it in Bill eyes too, the dude knew that if Manning got the ball whether by punting or a turnover, the Colts would win. The only way the Pats would have won is by simply keeping the Colts from getting the ball.

Either way, the purpose of this is not to bash the Pats for losing that game. But pointing to the fact that their defense could not hold down the fort when relied upon, and their own coach knew it. And the defense being tired is not a great excuse here, because if it was the 02-04 Patriots defense, there is no question about it, that Bill punts that ball, because he would have trusted that defense far more, whether they were tired or not.

[Edward]

tbh DoK I'm kinda surprised you think Brady doesn't have passing weapons outside of Moss/Welker.....have you forgotten we now have Rob "I'm a bad motherfucker" Gronkowski?

also, Hernandez is going to beast too. Gronk/Hernandez will be the killer TE duo that Dallas would have if Martellus Bennett ever puts as much effort into football as he does his YouTube videos.


I was talking about last year, this year he will have those guys to throw to, I'm looking forward to them utilizing the TE position and having 2 TE formations a lot more like they did when they were winning superbowls.

Also Fatass Crumpler will be good as a blocking tight end since he's fat, Gronk didn't get to block much in college but he certainly has the size to so those two won't be liabilities in that area.

[Blake]

The biggest problem last season was that Belichick gambled and lost that 1) the team could survive without Seymour and that 2) Derrick Burgess could fill that pass rushing hole. Not having Vrabel/Bruschi/Seymour in the locker room was also huge.

In the end it was worth it because Belichick probably knew before the season that Brady and the defense were another year or two away from being real contenders, so trading Seymour for a future 1st rounder was a better long term move.

The defense has so much youth that it still might be another year from really coming together. But there's so much damn talent that they're going to be beastly when it all comes together. Mayo and Meriweather appear to have matured alot in terms of both of them saying they want to be the new leaders of the defense, I think Brandon Spikes could be that type of locker room guy too, as long as he's not trying to gouge anyone's eyes out.

that seems to pretty much sum it up.

gambled, gave up Seymour, wait and see how new defense pans out.

[Blake]

But pointing to the fact that their defense could not hold down the fort when relied upon, and their own coach knew it.

there's that

[monosylab1k]

That could all be true. Then we could also make excuses on Indy's side, people could say they made a lot of uncharacteristic mistakes, etc... just like Bill did. Fact is, Pats lost. The bigger issue from that game, is that they made the seemingly dumb mistake, because they were scared shitless of Peyton Manning. You could see it in Bill eyes too, the dude knew that if Manning got the ball whether by punting or a turnover, the Colts would win. The only way the Pats would have won is by simply keeping the Colts from getting the ball.

Either way, the purpose of this is not to bash the Pats for losing that game. But pointing to the fact that their defense could not hold down the fort when relied upon, and their own coach knew it. And the defense being tired is not a great excuse here, because if it was the 02-04 Patriots defense, there is no question about it, that Bill punts that ball, because he would have trusted that defense far more, whether they were tired or not.

tbh what championship team lately has had that defense that can get a stop in crunch time?

The Saints benefited from a Manning/Wayne chokejob more than anything.

The Steelers and Cardinals both scored on each other late in the 4th quarter. Same with the Giants and Patriots.

It's an offensive league now and in a big game with elite players, the offense is going to win that battle 90% of the time, regardless of how good the defense is. If an offense fails in crunch time of the SB, it's almost always an offensive screwup rather than great defense.

[Edward]

That could all be true. Then we could also make excuses on Indy's side, people could say they made a lot of uncharacteristic mistakes, etc... just like Bill did. Fact is, Pats lost. The bigger issue from that game, is that they made the seemingly dumb mistake, because they were scared shitless of Peyton Manning. You could see it in Bill eyes too, the dude knew that if Manning got the ball whether by punting or a turnover, the Colts would win. The only way the Pats would have won is by simply keeping the Colts from getting the ball.

Either way, the purpose of this is not to bash the Pats for losing that game. But pointing to the fact that their defense could not hold down the fort when relied upon, and their own coach knew it. And the defense being tired is not a great excuse here, because if it was the 02-04 Patriots defense, there is no question about it, that Bill punts that ball, because he would have trusted that defense far more, whether they were tired or not.


The Patriots lost but they were more than capable of winning that game, it's not like they were playing a team they were incapable of beating. I'm not trying to say they didn't lose, I'm saying they could have just as easily beaten the Colts with the team they had.

And as far as I'm concerned, that 02-04 hypothetical is unrealistic. The Patriots had a ball control offense back then and the defense woulda never been gassed like it was last year when the offense went into 3 & out mode. You're probably right BB woulda punted the ball with that team, but that team woulda never put him in such a shitty position.

[monosylab1k]

And even when the defense does play great, some faggot will catch a football with his helmet and the coaching staff will be so dumbfounded that they won't realize Ellis Hobbs is isolated against a guy 2 feet taller than him.

[Blake]

tbh what championship team lately has had that defense that can get a stop in crunch time?

The Saints benefited from a Manning/Wayne chokejob more than anything.

the Saints


It's an offensive league now and in a big game with elite players, the offense is going to win that battle 90% of the time, regardless of how good the defense is. If an offense fails in crunch time of the SB, it's almost always an offensive screwup rather than great defense.

so was the Ravens winning against the Pats last year great defense or offensive screwup by multi superbowl winning QB Brady?

[Edward]

the Saints



so was the Ravens winning against the Pats last year great defense or offensive screwup by multi superbowl winning QB Brady?


He said late in crunchtime, the Patriots offense sucked from the get go in that game.

[Blake]

He said late in crunchtime, the Patriots offense sucked from the get go in that game.

true

[monosylab1k]

the Saints



so was the Ravens winning against the Pats last year great defense or offensive screwup by multi superbowl winning QB Brady?

I was referring to a defense getting a crucial stop in crunch time.

The Saints didn't do anything great defensively, they benefited from Reggie Wayne forgetting how to run a route properly. You or I could have made that interception, it was so gift-wrapped.

and tbh Brady was the worst player on the field in that playoff game. The Ravens didn't put out some elite defensive effort. The Ravens obviously were good, but that loss is almost completely on Brady imo.

[stretch]

tbh what championship team lately has had that defense that can get a stop in crunch time?

The Saints benefited from a Manning/Wayne chokejob more than anything.

The Steelers and Cardinals both scored on each other late in the 4th quarter. Same with the Giants and Patriots.

It's an offensive league now and in a big game with elite players, the offense is going to win that battle 90% of the time, regardless of how good the defense is. If an offense fails in crunch time of the SB, it's almost always an offensive screwup rather than great defense.

And I pretty much agree with this. However, I don't think that the Pats have enough offense to outscore a team like the Colts. The only way they are going to beat high powered offensive teams like the Colts or Saints, is to get stops early in the game to put them in position to win the game late, the same way the Giants did to the Pats in 07. Giants obviously had no chance in hell at outscoring the Pats, but instead, they played strong defense early to give them a shot at the win in the 4th, and it worked out. Same for the Steelers against the Cardinals... no way would the Steelers outscore the Cardinals, but they got enough stops on them early in the game, that they were able to pull it out in the 4th.

[Blake]

I was referring to a defense getting a crucial stop in crunch time.

The Saints didn't do anything great defensively, they benefited from Reggie Wayne forgetting how to run a route properly. You or I could have made that interception, it was so gift-wrapped.


if you believe what they say, the Saints scouted the shit out of Manning.

Whatshisface.....Sharper(?).....was 99% sure the ball was coming that way in that spot.

[Edward]

And tbh mono has a point, there really aren't any teams in the NFL known for their great shut down 2 minute defense. With all the spread formations and shit in today's game, it's harder for defenses to shut down great offenses when they go into their 4 receiver, no huddle 2 minute drill.

This is why depth at corner or lack thereof has killed a lot of teams recently, the Cardinals and Patriots come to mind. The Saints might not have had any shut down corners but Greer, Porter, Gay and Jenkins are all guys who won't give up big plays and can be on the field during critical times.

[Blake]

I'm getting tired of talking Pats football in a VY sucks thread.


check it... i don't give a fuck! have fun!

also what's funny to me blake is you seem to think i'm somehow embarrassed of a photo i posted months ago... a photo i posted! you get it yet or are you that dumb? and you might copy & paste the link to that photo but you also went out of your way to find a photo of me which just reaffirms my suspensions that most of you, if not all of you who follow me about, are fags. i mean how can you dispute such a claim when you siit here and search for photos of me, my legs, and my replies/posts. if i didn't know better you and the rest of your fag squad really do love me.

have a great day!

[stretch]

god damn if you arent the fuckin dumbest of the bunch.

lmao gay ass motherfucker here with his gay hardy shirt giving me shit hahaha

you really have no soap box to stand on... you might as well just get the fuck out of here already because if you wanna laugh at anyone just go put your gay hardy shirt on and look in the mirror man. honestly you're a bitch and you know it! don't make shit up because you were getting shit about that shirt... none of the chicks i know like fags in gay hardy shirts so move the fuck on.

[Edward]

(http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=3863) yeah i got tats on my legs, yeah they're spurs and yeah they're on my calves... we've gone over this yrs ago and yet it's still being brought up like a bad joke. it's fuckin' old man and you think it gets to me when you say the bs you do? you think it gets to me especially coming from some chump off the internet? come on now man... i didn't get these tats because i thought i'd shrivel up into a ball and hide when someone put me down about my decision to tat my calves up with spurs, i got these tats because i wanted to, because i like them and because i could give 2 shits less about some bitchmade chump on the internet.

get over it man and add to this thread or get the fuck out already. come up with something clever or shut the fuck up and get out of my thread.

[monosylab1k]

tattoo placement... give me a fuckin' break.

you got nothing original just like the dipshit before you and the dipshit before him and the dipshit who started the whole dipshit crew you belong to. bunch of sheep. follow the leader cause you can't think for yourself. hey hitler had a following too. dumbasses!

why don't you comment on the movie and less on some guy's legs. fag!

[Edward]

and tbh Brady was the worst player on the field in that playoff game. The Ravens didn't put out some elite defensive effort. The Ravens obviously were good, but that loss is almost completely on Brady imo.



It was like the Faltimore Cravens had film of the CHEATriots. Were you mad at your Tomdoll after the game monoslobGETSowned :lol

(sorry, I had to, Fabbs jokes never get old).

[monosylab1k]

you take this shit way too serious.

are you kidding me? the "failures of late will be remembered"? haha... maybe only to the few here who follow me around trying to get a lick of my magic stick. yeah you know who you are you man-leg lovin' fags.

oh and i should stop replying/posting because i am so humiliated by yall? is this what you really think? ha!

the funny thing is, i could delete my account here now or just simply never reply to any of yall and who's going to care one way or the other? the only ones here who would cry are you and the rest of the fag squad. i make your days more interesting because obviously yall don't have much to do but sit here at ST and heckle someone for a couple tattoos you don't like.

check it... i don't give a fuck! have fun!

also what's funny to me blake is you seem to think i'm somehow embarrassed of a photo i posted months ago... a photo i posted! you get it yet or are you that dumb? and you might copy & paste the link to that photo but you also went out of your way to find a photo of me which just reaffirms my suspensions that most of you, if not all of you who follow me about, are fags. i mean how can you dispute such a claim when you siit here and search for photos of me, my legs, and my replies/posts. if i didn't know better you and the rest of your fag squad really do love me.

have a great day!

http://onni.jkl.fi/~lauri/kuvia/your_a_fag.jpg

[monosylab1k]

(sorry, I had to, Fabbs jokes never get old).

:lmao that was so spot on I'm wondering if Fabbs is your troll.

[Edward]

you take this shit way too serious.

are you kidding me? the "failures of late will be remembered"? haha... maybe only to the few here who follow me around trying to get a lick of my magic stick. yeah you know who you are you man-leg lovin' fags.

oh and i should stop replying/posting because i am so humiliated by yall? is this what you really think? ha!

the funny thing is, i could delete my account here now or just simply never reply to any of yall and who's going to care one way or the other? the only ones here who would cry are you and the rest of the fag squad. i make your days more interesting because obviously yall don't have much to do but sit here at ST and heckle someone for a couple tattoos you don't like.

check it... i don't give a fuck! have fun!

also what's funny to me blake is you seem to think i'm somehow embarrassed of a photo i posted months ago... a photo i posted! you get it yet or are you that dumb? and you might copy & paste the link to that photo but you also went out of your way to find a photo of me which just reaffirms my suspensions that most of you, if not all of you who follow me about, are fags. i mean how can you dispute such a claim when you siit here and search for photos of me, my legs, and my replies/posts. if i didn't know better you and the rest of your fag squad really do love me.

have a great day!

http://onni.jkl.fi/%7Elauri/kuvia/your_a_fag.jpg


:lmao did koriwhat say that?

[monosylab1k]

:lmao did koriwhat say that?

lol yep check out his you smell like sh**! thread

[Edward]

:lmao that was so spot on I'm wondering if Fabbs is your troll.


If he had less posts I'd be sure he was a troll since I never thought someone could be dumb enough to think me you and JT are all the same person.

[Edward]

Do you guys even read his blowups anymore or do you just copy paste them?

[stretch]

Do you guys even read his blowups anymore or do you just copy paste them?

pretty much just skim them, and if i see a lot of cursing/insults, i copy paste it because its probably another golden reaction from him

[dirk4mvp]

thanks to the 2 people who actually somewhat contributed to this thread... the rest of you must be fags considering how yall follow me around and salivate over my legs like you would over a chick if you got down with chicks.

and yes, cigarettes are fuckin' disgusting and so is the smell!

[Goran Dragic]

thanks to the 2 people who actually somewhat contributed to this thread... the rest of you must be fags considering how yall follow me around and salivate over my legs like you would over a chick if you got down with chicks.

and yes, cigarettes are fuckin' disgusting and so is the smell!

http://onni.jkl.fi/%7Elauri/kuvia/your_a_fag.jpg

[Roddy Beaubois]

god damn if you arent the fuckin dumbest of the bunch.

lmao gay ass motherfucker here with his gay hardy shirt giving me shit hahaha

you really have no soap box to stand on... you might as well just get the fuck out of here already because if you wanna laugh at anyone just go put your gay hardy shirt on and look in the mirror man. honestly you're a bitch and you know it! don't make shit up because you were getting shit about that shirt... none of the chicks i know like fags in gay hardy shirts so move the fuck on.

:lmao Out of all the gold this might be my favorite, besides the obvious classic:

yeah i got tats on my legs, yeah they're spurs and yeah they're on my calves... we've gone over this yrs ago and yet it's still being brought up like a bad joke. it's fuckin' old man and you think it gets to me when you say the bs you do? you think it gets to me especially coming from some chump off the internet? come on now man... i didn't get these tats because i thought i'd shrivel up into a ball and hide when someone put me down about my decision to tat my calves up with spurs, i got these tats because i wanted to, because i like them and because i could give 2 shits less about some bitchmade chump on the internet.

get over it man and add to this thread or get the fuck out already. come up with something clever or shut the fuck up and get out of my thread.