There she is......Miss...U..S...A..

[Nbadan]

..........She's fucken what?

http://i.usatoday.net/communitymanager/_photos/on-deadline/2010/05/12/MIss%20Usax-wide-community.jpg

1. She's Arab-American.
2. She's Muslim.
3. She defended requiring insurance companies to cover birth control.



http://i.usatoday.net/communitymanager/_photos/on-deadline/2010/05/12/Faikhx-inset-community.jpg

.....I surrender! I surrender!

[MiamiHeat]

keep politics out of beauty pageants, peoples.

[word]

lol at Miss USA pagent. They should have asked the Muslim girl about Islamic terrorism, for balance. Instead they went to the white girl from Oklahoma about immigration law in Arizona.

Cheap. Political correctness at it's worst.

[ChumpDumper]

For balance?

Balancing what?

[admiralsnackbar]

Cheap. Political correctness at it's worst.


So you're saying she's not smokin' hot? I apologize if this is untoward, but try buying a dick, champ!

[Stringer_Bell]

1. She's Arab-American.
2. She's Muslim.
3. She defended requiring insurance companies to cover birth control.

This bitch thinks insurance companies and employers need to cover her ass in the bedroom? Wow. Don't fuck if you can't handle the consequences, maybe it'll make people more picky about sexual partners and there won't be so many dumb bitches in the world angry that they get used so easily...or wishing they'd have been on the pill so they wouldn't get impregnated with inferior sperm.

She needs to stick to pole dancing.

[George Gervin's Afro]

lol at Miss USA pagent. They should have asked the Muslim girl about Islamic terrorism, for balance. Instead they went to the white girl from Oklahoma about immigration law in Arizona.

Cheap. Political correctness at it's worst.


you do realize that the questions were picked out of a bowl don't you? Ms Michigan could have easily chosen that question as well...

[DarrinS]

There's probably a fatwa out on her for that bikini pic.

[Kermit]

Didn't she win a strip-off?

Yes, yes she did.

http://www.examiner.com/x-35831-Celebrity-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m5d17-Rima-Fakih-in-danger-after-pole-dancing-video-pageant-reps-investigate-Video

[EmptyMan]

Would wife Miss Okla.

[Wild Cobra]

keep politics out of beauty pageants, peoples.
No shit.

I like this half Iranian myself:

http://topfaqe.com/uploads/KatrinBell/1.jpg

[z0sa]

Pathetic

[Yonivore]

..........She's fucken what?

http://i.usatoday.net/communitymanager/_photos/on-deadline/2010/05/12/MIss%20Usax-wide-community.jpg

1. She's Arab-American.
2. She's Muslim.
3. She defended requiring insurance companies to cover birth control.



http://i.usatoday.net/communitymanager/_photos/on-deadline/2010/05/12/Faikhx-inset-community.jpg

.....I surrender! I surrender!
Tell me, Dan; is there one Muslim country, in which Sharia law is the prevailing justice system, where she wouldn't be stoned to death for this?

And, MiamiHeat, I agree; keep politics out of beauty pageants...starting with the ideological questions by the panel. Miss Michigan's question on the pill was just as politically charged as was Miss Oklahoma's question on Immigration...and, neither should have been asked.

Oh yeah, I think she declared herself "half-Christian." Another thing that doesn't go over well in Islam.

So, She's fucken what?

1) Half-Christian
2) Half-Naked
3) Ostensibly promiscuous (by Islamic standards) because of her stance on the pill and this:

BB55hn9jbBg

[admiralsnackbar]

Tell me, Dan; is there one Muslim country, in which Sharia law is the prevailing justice system, where she wouldn't be stoned to death for this?


I don't see the connection, man... she's from Michigan.

[Winehole23]

BTW, in how many countries is Sharia the prevailing justice system? Honest question.

[hater]

stupid ignorant americans thinking Lebanese are Arabs

[jack sommerset]

stupid ignorant americans thinking Lebanese are Arabs

She is a dyke too?

[Yonivore]

I don't see the connection, man... she's from Michigan.
They're touting her Islamic heritage and Lebanese origin.

No, I don't know if she'd be stoned in Lebanon even though I suspect in the Hezbollah-controlled areas, she'd probably suffer some type of "honor" punishment. I read somewhere this morning she has relatives in Hezbollah.

[Yonivore]

BTW, in how many countries is Sharia the prevailing justice system? Honest question.

From wikipedia:


Nations using Sharia

To varying degrees these nations recognize Sharia;

Algeria, India, Lebanon, Palestine, Sudan, Bahrain, Indonesia, Libya, Philippines, Syria, Iran, Malaysia, Qatar, Tanzania, Brunei, Iraq, Maldives, Saudi Arabia, Tunisia, Egypt, Israel, Morocco, Senegal, United Arab Emirates, Ethiopia, Jordan, Nigeria, Singapore, Yemen, Gambia, Kenya, Oman, Somalia, Ghana, Kuwait, Pakistan.
I withdraw my use of the word "prevailing." Sharia is, in many countries, allowed to be practiced along side whatever justice system the government institutes.

[Yonivore]

Perhaps a better question for Miss Michigan would have been regarding her stance on radical Islam instead of birth control.

I would have been interested in her response.

If, that is, we're going to continue politicizing the pageant.

[admiralsnackbar]

They're touting her Islamic heritage and Lebanese origin.

No, I don't know if she'd be stoned in Lebanon even though I suspect in the Hezbollah-controlled areas, she'd probably suffer some type of "honor" punishment. I read somewhere this morning she has relatives in Hezbollah.

I dunno, man -- she seems pretty assimilated to me. I don't get how somebody being a Muslim automatically files them under "extremist," though. Plenty of Christians in this country, only a few Fred Phelps'.

[Geezerballer]

She's hot but she'd probably give you a furry baby.

[rjv]

They're touting her Islamic heritage and Lebanese origin.

No, I don't know if she'd be stoned in Lebanon even though I suspect in the Hezbollah-controlled areas, she'd probably suffer some type of "honor" punishment. I read somewhere this morning she has relatives in Hezbollah.


well damn then, if miss germany ever wins miss universe they may want to make sure she isn't anti-semitic

[z0sa]

well damn then, if miss germany ever wins miss universe they may want to make sure she isn't anti-semitic

Being German doesn't make you a Nazi.

Following Islam makes you a Muslim.

[rjv]

Being German doesn't make you a Nazi.

Following Islam makes you a Muslim.


well then if you want to go with that route of generalization i suppose that all catholics really are against contraception. i mean, since apparently following a religion or faith makes one categorically orthodox in every respect.

[ChumpDumper]

God damn people are stupid.

[MiamiHeat]

guys

we want to hug her, kiss her, and fuck her like crazy

We don't want to talk politics with her.

let's get our priorities back

[jack sommerset]

I thought tripping was a big deal in these contest.

[z0sa]

well then if you want to go with that route of generalization

I didn't generalize anything. She identifies as Muslim.

[rjv]

I didn't generalize anything. She identifies as Muslim.

and that is all we can say about her. anything else is speculation.

[z0sa]

and that is all we can say about her. anything else is speculation.

There's a whole religion's worth of laws and teachings that is definitely outside the realm of speculation.

How closely she follows those is obviously a different story.

But IMO, she doesn't follow them much, if at all. Which is why I find your Catholicism reference a bit "apple-to-orangey."

Mainly because most, if not all all of the leading Muslim "clergy" (dunno proper term) preach against women having any place in society, and adamantly defend women covering their bodies entirely in public and even many home situations.

And clearly she isn't covering her body in public. So IMO, she's not a Muslim by most Muslim's ideals. But she's free to call herself that here in America and wherever else they won't punish her for holding a different, perhaps non-canonical standard.

[rjv]

There's a whole religion's worth of laws and teachings that is definitely outside the realm of speculation.

How closely she follows those is obviously a different story.

But IMO, she doesn't follow them much, if at all. Which is why I find your Catholicism reference a bit "apple-to-orangey."

Mainly because most, if not all all of the leading Muslim "clergy" (dunno proper term) preach against women having any place in society, and adamantly defend women covering their bodies entirely in public and even many home situations.

And clearly she isn't covering her body in public. So IMO, she's not a Muslim by most Muslim's ideals. But she's free to call herself that here in America and wherever else they won't punish her for holding a different standard.


well then she is not a muslim any more than any catholic is a catholic that is pro-contraception or not against homosexuality, or even advocates liberation theology. so we can rule out a good chunk of africa and latin america as well as certain catholic parishes in large american cities.

[z0sa]

well then she is not a muslim any more than any catholic is a catholic that is pro-contraception or not against homosexuality, or even advocates liberation theology. so we can rule out a good chunk of africa and latin america as well as certain catholic parishes in large american cities.

Again, comparing small apples to big oranges, IMO.

We have to realize we're talking religion, and religion is inseparable from the people who practice it. So oftentimes, majority rules. And I don't think the majority of Muslims in the world, nor their religious leaders and theologists would approve of her going out in public without being covered from head to toe. JMO.

But really, you're comparing a sect of Christianity (catholicism) with an entire religion, Islam. Which is inherently wrong - because she is definitely not an orthodox Muslim. Or she's definitely in the minority, whichever she associates.

[rjv]

Again, comparing small apples to big oranges, IMO.

We have to realize we're talking religion, and religion is inseparable from the people who practice it. So oftentimes, majority rules. And I don't think the majority of Muslims in the world, nor their religious leaders and theologists would approve of her going out in public without being covered from head to toe. JMO.

But really, you're comparing a sect of Christianity (catholicism) with an entire religion, Islam. Which is inherently wrong - because she is definitely not an orthodox Muslim. Or she's definitely in the minority, whichever she associates.

oh, so only christianity has sects? there are sects of the islamic faith as well or you just going to dismiss that fact?

[z0sa]

oh, so only christianity has sects? there are sects of the islamic faith as well or you just going to dismiss that fact?

I... kinda implied that whenever I said she probably can't be an orthodox muslim. As long as we're agreeing she's actually Muslim, which is questionable.

Why would I differentiate her as non-orthodox Muslim if orthodox Islam is the only sect? To call any sect Orthodox is to imply that other more radical (...at least in some cases...) perspectives exist.

[Kermit]

We have a hot woman who danced in a strip-off and just won Miss America and all you douche's can talk about is Islam? *cough*fags*cough*

[z0sa]

We have a hot woman who danced in a strip-off and just won Miss America and all you douche's can talk about is Islam? *cough*fags*cough*

There's a wanking thread over in the club.

[Kermit]

I think I'll make this my wanking thread.

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/06_02/Burkini230607MOS_468x810.jpg

Oh yeah baby. You look good in that burka...er...burkini.

[Kermit]

Let's not leave out the Jews.

http://www.webwombat.com.au/lifestyle/fashion_beauty/images/refaeli-1.jpg

[The Reckoning]

didnt she trip over her dress when she was named?

its a sign!

[z0sa]

I think I'll make this my wanking thread.

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/06_02/Burkini230607MOS_468x810.jpg

Oh yeah baby. You look good in that burka...er...burkini.

So she wears a burka on the beach and a swimsuit on national TV..

[Kermit]

So she wears a burka on the beach and a swimsuit on national TV..

Yeah. That's her.

[z0sa]

Yeah. That's her.

Is it not? I honestly can't tell.

[Kermit]

Is it not? I honestly can't tell.

I know. They all look alike, right?

[Oh, Gee!!]

she's a beautiful girl nonetheless

[z0sa]

I know. They all look alike, right?

I honestly can't remember what Miss USA's face looks like. Much less 2/3 of it without the hair or neck.

[admiralsnackbar]

I... kinda implied that whenever I said she probably can't be an orthodox muslim. As long as we're agreeing she's actually Muslim, which is questionable.

Why would I differentiate her as non-orthodox Muslim if orthodox Islam is the only sect? To call any sect Orthodox is to imply that other more radical (...at least in some cases...) perspectives exist.


What are you arguing, exactly, zoS? In one paragraph you're saying you agree with rjv that she is a Muslim, then turn around and question whether she actually is one. Bit weird.

In the next P you defend your calling her unorthodox, but imply that activity beyond orthodoxy is radical. Begs the question: what do you mean by radical? If you mean liberal/reform Islam, there seem to be less hyperbolic/pejorative words.

[z0sa]

What are you arguing, exactly, zoS?

Not one thing specifically, but this topic does interest me for a couple reasons. One is the fact a popular beauty pageant has been politicized. Why? I think it's because that's what gets ratings and hits, not because this girl or any other has a particularly insightful perspective. And everyone should realize that.


In one paragraph you're saying you agree with rjv that she is a Muslim, then turn around and question whether she actually is one. Bit weird.

Well, I said "as long as we are agreeing" ... I agree she's muslim; who I am to say she isn't? Even if she barely follows it and only identifies with it from tradition, it's still her religion and no one can take that away from her.

However, she chose the spotlight and thus, also chose criticism. And I'm also responding to rjv's generalization with a correction, that you can't criticize Germans for being Nazis because the vast majority doesn't hold those ideals.

Also, she's putting herself in the spotlight by calling herself Muslim then exhibiting opposing behavior/ideals to commonly held Islamic traditions.


In the next P you defend your calling her unorthodox, but imply that activity beyond orthodoxy is radical.

Hence, "in some cases". Orthodox Islam is about as radical as it gets, but Eastern Orthodox Christianity is less radical than Catholicism, at least traditionally.

[hater]

she looks banging on that stripper pole

you mofos are homos

[rjv]

However, she chose the spotlight and thus, also chose criticism. And I'm also responding to rjv's generalization with a correction, that you can't criticize Germans for being Nazis because the vast majority doesn't hold those ideals.

my original post was just pointing out that we should not be subjecting her to any judgements because she is making her heritage known any more than we can make a judgement about a german contestant who celebrated her heritage.


Also, she's putting herself in the spotlight by calling herself Muslim then exhibiting opposing behavior/ideals to commonly held Islamic traditions.

but she never defined her faith so we really can not say whether she was that opposed to the islamic faith but because we do not know to what tenants she subscribes to.



my whole point was that it was premature to label her a hypocrite or heretic. if anything, it would have been more fair to assume her to be superficial just by the very nature of her being a beauty pagent contestant than by virtue of her heritage and proclaimed faith.

[z0sa]

We're just on opposing fronts, rjv. I think she's subject to criticism as a heretic and hypocrite since she has decided to associate with very ancient and widespread religious beliefs while seemingly contradicting them. By the doctrine exhibited by most Muslims, I think she is contradicting traditional Islamic faith. It's a fair debate.

[z0sa]

As for the original analogy, no self-respecting German ever associates with Nazi ideology. She willingly associates herself with Islam. Two different situations completely, and questioning her about some of the happenings near her home country and how she felt about them would have been nothing like asking a German if he's anti-semitic.

[admiralsnackbar]

We're just on opposing fronts, rjv. I think she's subject to criticism as a heretic and hypocrite since she has decided to associate with very ancient and widespread religious beliefs while seemingly contradicting them. By the doctrine exhibited by most Muslims, I think she is contradicting traditional Islamic faith. It's a fair debate.

I have to echo rjv's point here: you'd have to know what/how she believes in order to say she is behaving hypocritically or heretically. Measuring her according to the yardstick of your perception of mainstream Islam seems as unfounded as judging an Episcopalian by the tenets of 7th Day Adventism.

[z0sa]

I have to echo rjv's point here: you'd have to know what/how she believes in order to say she is behaving hypocritically or heretically. Measuring her according to the yardstick of your perception of mainstream Islam seems as unfounded as judging an Episcopalian by the tenets of 7th Day Adventism.

Islam and Christianity are two very different religions. Christianity is fairly equally split between Protestant and Catholic mostly, with many different sects intra-religiously that identify with both.

Islam, not so much. The vast majority are orthodox and support extremely conservative views she is in direct opposition to. Just in theory and principal, it's much easier branding her a hypocritical Muslim than it would ever be with Christianity, simply because there's a much more defined tradition for most Muslims.

Still, I haven't directly called her a hypocrite; only that she can be criticized. And this is what popular beauty contests are about now apparently, firing people up.

[rjv]

We're just on opposing fronts, rjv. I think she's subject to criticism as a heretic and hypocrite since she has decided to associate with very ancient and widespread religious beliefs while seemingly contradicting them. By the doctrine exhibited by most Muslims, I think she is contradicting traditional Islamic faith. It's a fair debate.

she is muslim american and a very young one at that. this is not some older generation female from the old country here. her own background is of dual heritage at that and she was educated in a catholic school. she seems pretty assimilated to me.

[z0sa]

she is muslim american and a very young one at that. this is not some older generation female from the old country here. her own background is of dual heritage at that and she was educated in a catholic school. she seems pretty assimilated to me.

I agree, but all this makes her seem less real and even more prone to criticism.

Why are you associating yourself with Islam if you barely follow its teachings? And Catholic school for a Muslim? That must have been weird, unless she barely identifies with Islam or you mean her post-high school education.

[rjv]

I agree, but all this makes her seem less real and even more prone to criticism.

Why are you associating yourself with Islam if you barely follow its teachings? And Catholic school for a Muslim? That must have been weird, unless she barely identifies with Islam or you mean her post-high school education.


i don't it thinks it makes her any more prone to criticism than any of the myriad of people in our society and pageant contestants who claim to be of a certain faith or heritage (and then clearly do not live up to the standards of that faith). christians can often be the biggest offenders in that regard. like kierkegaard said: "christendom has done away with christianity, without being quite aware of it".

[admiralsnackbar]

Islam and Christianity are two very different religions. Christianity is fairly equally split between Protestant and Catholic mostly, with many different sects intra-religiously that identify with both.

Islam, not so much. The vast majority are orthodox and support extremely conservative views she is in direct opposition to. Just in theory and principal, it's much easier branding her a hypocritical Muslim than it would ever be with Christianity, simply because there's a much more defined tradition for most Muslims.

Still, I haven't directly called her a hypocrite; only that she can be criticized. And this is what popular beauty contests are about now apparently, firing people up.

Again, you're judging her (or saying she can be criticized) based on what you perceive as being Islam, not any knowledge of her faith. Contrary to your assertion, Islam has a robust reform/progressive movement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_movements_within_Islam).

[z0sa]

Again, you're judging her (or saying she can be criticized) based on what you perceive as being Islam, not any knowledge of her faith. Contrary to your assertion, Islam has a robust reform/progressive movement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_movements_within_Islam).

I absolutely have knowledge she's Muslim, and I'm not critiquing her on a perception but on Islamic fundamental grounds. I've also asserted she most likely is non-orthodox due to the obvious, so that's really not contrary to anything I've said. Actually, I have yet to even criticize anything about her specifically, but defend the fact she can be criticized on some level.

[Blake]

I agree, but all this makes her seem less real and even more prone to criticism.



Actually, I have yet to even criticize anything about her specifically, but defend the fact she can be criticized on some level.


She's a pole dancing model.

[Wild Cobra]

stupid ignorant americans thinking Lebanese are Arabs

Some of us know what Lebanese are:

http://www.bloggercises.com/images/klinger11.jpg

[Wild Cobra]

She's a pole dancing model.
No kidding.

She just may not keep the crown. That ought to make you racists happy.

[Blake]

No kidding.

She just may not keep the crown. That ought to make you racists happy.

who exactly is a racist?

[Wild Cobra]

who exactly is a racist?
Those who are making her race and/or religion an issue.

[Yonivore]

Okay, for the record; I'd hit it and I think she deserves the title. She's a hottie who answered all the questions and wears a bikini rather nicely. I wish her well in the Miss Universe or Miss World pageant, whichever is up next.

[Blake]

Those who are making her race and/or religion an issue.

I figured she would lose the crown because of her pole dancing.....not because of z0sa's problems with her calling herself a Muslim American.

[Wild Cobra]

I figured she would lose the crown because of her pole dancing.....
I think so too. Once the news hit, I'll be surprised if she keeps the crown.

Like I said, it should make the racists happy.

[Blake]

Like I said, it should make the racists happy.

Unless the racist Muslim Americans out there become unhappy.

[z0sa]

I figured she would lose the crown because of her pole dancing.....not because of z0sa's problems with her calling herself a Muslim American.


In case you didn't notice, I spend most of this thread half-arguing semantics and never criticized her once personally.


What problems do I have with her calling herself Muslim American? Need some quotes from me where I directly name, list and/or address these so called "problems" or you're typing out of your red, hurting ass.

[Dr. Gonzo]

This is a travesty. Miss USA should be a blonde haired, blue eyed female.

[Nbadan]

FAUX News agrees!

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[Blake]

In case you didn't notice, I spend most of this thread half-arguing semantics and never criticized her once personally.


What problems do I have with her calling herself Muslim American? Need some quotes from me where I directly name, list and/or address these so called "problems" or you're typing out of your red, hurting ass.

You have made it clear for several pages that you think her calling herself a Muslim is a problem for her in that it leaves herself open to some type of criticism.

I don't do red ass. Need some quotes from me where I have a red hurting ass or you are just providing more proof of just how butthurt you really are.

[z0sa]

So you don't have any quotes. You're pretty butthurt about my opinion, as usual.

[Blake]

So you don't have any quotes.


Following Islam makes you a Muslim.


She identifies as Muslim.


So IMO, she's not a Muslim by most Muslim's ideals.


she is definitely not an orthodox Muslim.


I... kinda implied that whenever I said she probably can't be an orthodox muslim.


I agree she's muslim; who I am to say she isn't? Even if she barely follows it and only identifies with it from tradition, it's still her religion and no one can take that away from her.



I think she's subject to criticism as a heretic and hypocrite since she has decided to associate with very ancient and widespread religious beliefs while seemingly contradicting them. By the doctrine exhibited by most Muslims, I think she is contradicting traditional Islamic faith. It's a fair debate.



Still, I haven't directly called her a hypocrite; only that she can be criticized.


I agree, but all this makes her seem less real and even more prone to criticism.

Why are you associating yourself with Islam if you barely follow its teachings? And Catholic school for a Muslim? That must have been weird, unless she barely identifies with Islam or you mean her post-high school education.


Actually, I have yet to even criticize anything about her specifically, but defend the fact she can be criticized on some level.


You're pretty butthurt about my opinion, as usual.

so you don't have any quotes about me being butthurt.

[z0sa]

I'm not seeing anything of use there. You read my question correctly, right?

What problems do I have with her calling herself Muslim American?

[ploto]

That lady goes on and on about her being Lebanese but about 40% of the people in Lebanon are Christian. Go to any Catholic school in San Antonio and you will find Lebanese kids there.

[z0sa]

Answer how "z0sa has a problem with her calling herself Muslim American", based on these posts, from me, that you quoted, Blake:

"Following Islam makes you a Muslim." How does this translate to me having a problem with her calling herself Muslim American?

"She identifies as Muslim." How does this translate to me having a problem with her calling herself Muslim American?

"she is definitely not an orthodox Muslim." How does this translate..?

"So IMO, she's not a Muslim by most Muslim's ideals." How does this translate to me having a problem with her calling herself Muslim American, Blake?

Please answer each one separately before we move on.

[Blake]

I'm not seeing anything of use there. You read my question correctly, right?

What problems do I have with her calling herself Muslim American?

semantics.

You are creating possible problems for her.

Either way, you are a fucking idiot.

[z0sa]

semantics.

You are creating possible problems for her.

Either way, you are a fucking idiot.

:lol Blake with zero legitimate answers thus far. Per the usual, his ass is hurting because he doesn't like my opinion.

[admiralsnackbar]

That lady goes on and on about her being Lebanese but about 40% of the people in Lebanon are Christian. Go to any Catholic school in San Antonio and you will find Lebanese kids there. That's fine, but she happens to identify with the 60% that isn't Christian, it would seem.

[Blake]

:lol Blake with zero legitimate answers thus far. Per the usual, his ass is hurting because he doesn't like my opinion.

I don't know what your opinion about her being Muslim really is.

You made a stupid comment, then you tried all thread long to play both sides.


I think she's subject to criticism as a heretic and hypocrite since she has decided to associate with very ancient and widespread religious beliefs while seemingly contradicting them.


Still, I haven't directly called her a hypocrite


Main Entry: hyp·o·crite
Pronunciation: \ˈhi-pə-ˌkrit\
Function: noun

2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings

You have a problem with words and their meanings.


I don't do red ass. Need some quotes from me where I have a red hurting ass or you are just providing more proof of just how butthurt you really are.

[Sisk]

BTW, in how many countries is Sharia the prevailing justice system? Honest question.


From wikipedia:


I withdraw my use of the word "prevailing." Sharia is, in many countries, allowed to be practiced along side whatever justice system the government institutes.

http://www.amazon.com/While-Europe-Slept-Radical-Destroying/dp/0385514727

[ploto]

That's fine, but she happens to identify with the 60% that isn't Christian, it would seem.

She said her family has both Christian and Muslim roots, and she attended a Catholic school.

[DarkReign]

Who. Gives. A. Shit.

[DarrinS]

Who. Gives. A. Shit.


This response is appropriate for any of Nbadan's threads.

[Duff McCartney]

It's obvious to me that most conservative bloogers are stupid ass bigots. Especially Debbie Schlussel...another person to add on my conservative shit list.

[Winehole23]

http://www.amazon.com/While-Europe-Slept-Radical-Destroying/dp/0385514727I'm not worried.

[Duff McCartney]

Me either, Bruce Bawer is just an alarmist. Ratcheting up fear over nothing.

[Sisk]

I'm not worried.

Why? You think it's impossible or something?

[Sisk]

Me either, Bruce Bawer is just an alarmist. Ratcheting up fear over nothing.

If you haven't read the book you can't really say it's over nothing. There are changes being made and if you ask anyone that has lived or visited Europe (not that I have done either, but I know plenty of people that have migrated, been stationed, or at the very least visited) know that it's become a slippery slope. Their "Freedom of Speech" is extremely limited and they're even more PC than the U.S. is.

[Winehole23]

Their "Freedom of Speech" is extremely limited and they're even more PC than the U.S. is.No doubt. This leads to Dhimmitude how?

[Duff McCartney]

If you haven't read the book you can't really say it's over nothing. There are changes being made and if you ask anyone that has lived or visited Europe (not that I have done either, but I know plenty of people that have migrated, been stationed, or at the very least visited) know that it's become a slippery slope. Their "Freedom of Speech" is extremely limited and they're even more PC than the U.S. is.

I fail to see how their slippery slope freedom of speech is tied to Muslims taking over Europe. No doubt Europe has to do something about it's dwindling population. But the fact is it's alarmists above all else.

I have visited Europe and I've seen Muslim immigrants who do nothing more than work and try to integrate as best they can.

[Wild Cobra]

This is a travesty. Miss USA should be a blonde haired, blue eyed female.
Sorry, we aren't bringing back Nazi Germany standards for you.

[Wild Cobra]

FAUX News agrees!

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Dan, I got through about 1/3rd of that video. The asswipe's paraphrase could easily be wrong. I gave up when he didn't play the video to prove his claim. If there is such video, please give me a time index so I don't have to suffer through almost 8 minutes. My attention Deficient Disorder was kicking in hard.

[Sisk]

No doubt. This leads to Dhimmitude how?

If people are speaking out and being put in jail, how doesn't it?


I fail to see how their slippery slope freedom of speech is tied to Muslims taking over Europe. No doubt Europe has to do something about it's dwindling population. But the fact is it's alarmists above all else.

I have visited Europe and I've seen Muslim immigrants who do nothing more than work and try to integrate as best they can.

As I just said, when people are prevented from their government from speaking out it makes speaking out a bit difficult. How is it alarmist if the population is indeed dwindling? Isn't that simple observation? Sure, there are hard working people of all races, but the fact is there are some of these migrants who are threatening with violence or by a more subtle political threat.


Sorry, we aren't bringing back Nazi Germany standards for you.

I really thought that this crap was over with by now. Do you REALLY think Hitler wanted blonde haired/blue eyed people roaming the Earth? It's propaganda on the Allies side (note: the victor writes history). This is the last I'm commenting on this crap, but the bottom line is Aryan's aren't blonde haired/blue eyed.

[Blake]

Do you REALLY think Hitler wanted blonde haired/blue eyed people roaming the Earth? It's propaganda on the Allies side (note: the victor writes history). This is the last I'm commenting on this crap, but the bottom line is Aryan's aren't blonde haired/blue eyed.

I thought it was common knowledge that Hitler wanted to breed a super human race. Is that not true or are you just referring to blonde/blue eyed people?

[Sisk]

I thought it was common knowledge that Hitler wanted to breed a super human race. Is that not true or are you just referring to blonde/blue eyed people?

I'm referring to the sentiment that Aryan doesn't mean blonde hair/blue eyes.

[Blake]

I'm referring to the sentiment that Aryan doesn't mean blonde hair/blue eyes.

just checking. :tu

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So, She's fucken what?

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hot, next question please.

[Winehole23]

If people are speaking out and being put in jail, how doesn't it?Since you've read the book and I haven't, maybe you could sketch it out for me a little. A quick little nutshell?

Don't hoard the knowledge.

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This is a travesty. Miss USA should be a blonde haired, blue eyed female.

Damn Williams and her replcement for screwing it all up. What is this country coming to?


That lady goes on and on about her being Lebanese but about 40% of the people in Lebanon are Christian. Go to any Catholic school in San Antonio and you will find Lebanese kids there.

Pathetic. It's a beauty contest and people go and make it political.


Who. Gives. A. Shit.

Bingo. All most dudes want to is hit it.


hot, next question please.

Agreed. Let's keep this in perspective.

[Stringer_Bell]

hot, next question please.


I don't think she's hot enough to get a free pass on whatever issue the blogs, media, and politicians have with her. I'm all in favor of hot women being allowed to be hot and do good things, but she's no prime Vanessa Williams.

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well damn then, if miss germany ever wins miss universe they may want to make sure she isn't anti-semitic


Being German doesn't make you a Nazi.

Following Islam makes you a Muslim.


well then if you want to go with that route of generalization i suppose that all catholics really are against contraception. i mean, since apparently following a religion or faith makes one categorically orthodox in every respect.

So much fail here. First you equate someones nationality to their views on faith. Then you follow it up by confirming that you had no idea as to the point you were trying to make in the first place. Since when does being German (or any other nationality) obligate one to a particular ideology? :tu