2003 Spurs vs 1994 Rockets

[D2Procon]

In a 7 game series who would win?

Both had one allstar on their team, a dominant big man. Both had merely no one on their team. I pick Rockets in 7

[Muser]

Too close to call, it goes 7 is all i'm gonna say.

[Nahtanoj]

1994 Houston Rockets (58-24)
SF - Robert Horry / Carl Herrera
PF - Otis Thorpe / Matt Bullard
C - Hakeem Olajuwon / Eric Riley
SG - Vernon Maxwell / Mario Ellie
PG - Kenny Smith / Sam Cassell / Scott Brooks

2003 San Antonio Spurs (60-22)
SF - Bruce Bowen / Steve Smith
PF - Tim Duncan / Malik Rose / Danny Ferry
C - David Robinson / Kevin Willis
SG - Stephen Jackson / Manu Ginobili
PG - Tony Parker / Speedy Claxton / Steve Kerr

Olajuwon was the best Center I ever seen, but he is only one man. The 2003 Spurs were stacked, so San Antonio in 6 easily. Houston would beat all the other Spur teams though (1999, 2005, 2007).

[doobs]

^ Don't be fooled by the names you see. Robinson was in his late 30s and about to retire. Parker was still young and undependable, often losing minutes to Claxton. Ginobili was a rookie.

I still think the 2003 Spurs would win, but I think the 2005 team was the best.

[lebomb]

but I think the 2005 team was the best.


I concur

[Nahtanoj]

2005? Good luck defending Olajuwon with just Tim Duncan. ;)

[Nahtanoj]

Ginobili was a rookie.


He made a huge impact that year.

[Ghazi]

lol, '03 Spurs? 3rd best team that year that benefited from Webber and Dirk getting hurt.

[lebomb]

2005? Good luck defending Olajuwon with just Tim Duncan. ;)


2004-05 San Antonio Spurs:
Roster

No. Player Pos Ht Wt Birth Date Exp College
17 Brent Barry G 6-6 185 December 31, 1971 9 Oregon State University
12 Bruce Bowen F 6-7 185 June 14, 1971 8 California State University, Fullerton
23 Devin Brown G 6-5 220 December 30, 1978 2 University of Texas at San Antonio
21 Tim Duncan F-C 6-11 248 April 25, 1976 7 Wake Forest University
20 Manu Ginobili G 6-6 210 July 28, 1977 2
1 Dion Glover G 6-5 228 October 22, 1978 5 Georgia Institute of Technology
5 Robert Horry F 6-9 220 August 25, 1970 12 University of Alabama
43 Linton Johnson F 6-8 205 June 13, 1980 1 Tulane University
4 Sean Marks F-C 6-10 250 August 23, 1975 4 University of California
34 Tony Massenburg F 6-9 220 July 31, 1967 12 University of Maryland
2 Nazr Mohammed C 6-10 221 September 5, 1977 6 University of Kentucky
8 Rasho Nesterovic C 7-0 248 May 30, 1976 6
9 Tony Parker G 6-2 180 May 17, 1982 3
3 Glenn Robinson F 6-7 225 January 10, 1973 10 Purdue University
31 Malik Rose F 6-7 250 November 23, 1974 8 Drexel University
14 Beno Udrih G 6-3 205 July 5, 1982 R
11 Mike Wilks G 5-10 185 May 7, 1979 2 Rice University


Spurs had enough bigs to make Olajuwan work some. He would have gotten his, but the Spurs would have held the others in check.

[21_Blessings]

94 Hakeem would clown Duncan and DRob (again).

[Nahtanoj]

5 Robert Horry F 6-9 220
34 Tony Massenburg F 6-9 220
2 Nazr Mohammed C 6-10 221
8 Rasho Nesterovic C 7-0 248


lmao

[lebomb]

lmao


:lmao

..........they did a number on Rasheed and Ben Wallace.

:wakeup


Besides............Hakeem would have gotten his points anyhow.

[Nahtanoj]

94 Hakeem would clown Duncan and DRob (again).

For that reason, 2003 is the only team that has a legitimate chance of beating the 94 Rockets.

[djohn2oo8]

:lmao

..........they did a number on Rasheed and Ben Wallace.

:wakeup


Besides............Hakeem would have gotten his points anyhow.

Rasheed and Ben Wallace were nowhere near Hakeem

[Nahtanoj]

:lmao

..........they did a number on Rasheed and Ben Wallace.


They are not Dream.

[Nahtanoj]

Rasheed and Ben Wallace were nowhere near Hakeem

I concur.

I LOL'd hard when I read what the other guy wrote. :)

[lebomb]

Like I said TWICE before, Hakeem would have gotten his. What about the rest of the Rockets?

[Muser]

Rasheed and Ben Wallace were nowhere near Hakeem

I think he means Offensively.

[Nahtanoj]

I still think the 2003 Spurs would win, but I think the 2005 team was the best.

We're not talking about the best Spurs team ever. We're talking about which team would beat the 1994 Rockets.

[Nahtanoj]

I think he means Offensively.

He means defensively as well.

[Nahtanoj]

Like I said TWICE before, Hakeem would have gotten his. What about the rest of the Rockets?

I already said 2003 would beat them, they're better equipped to do it than say 2005.

[Muser]

Well obviously Hakeem >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben Wallace offensively, but Defensively it's pretty close.

IDK why people started talking about Wallace anyway.

[Nahtanoj]

Hakeem is better defensively.. lol

I don't know, your fellow Spurfan mentioned him. ;)

[Muser]

Ben Wallace is horribly underrated by some people IMO.

[Nahtanoj]

Ben Wallace was pretty good defensively, but he wasn't as good as Dream or even Worm (yes). And I still don't understand how Duncan has 0 DPOY Awards. ;)

[21_Blessings]

That's because Duncan never deserved a DPOY award. And the Admiral was a better defender anyway.

But yeah not many were better than the Dream defensively. He had the skill and the freak athleticism.

[Nahtanoj]

Duncan's impact on defense (in his prime) is more underrated than what Muser said about Ben Wallace.

[baseline bum]

The 1999, 2005, and 2007 teams would all beat the 94 Rockets, and the 2003 Spurs vs 94 Rockets series would be close. I don't know why anyone here would think the 2003 Spurs match up best with those Rockets. The 1999 Spurs would crush them, being able to throw prime Robinson and Duncan at Olajuwon. 05 and 07 Olajuwon would kill Nazr Mohammed and Oberto, but Parker would torch Kenny Smith and a rookie Sam Cassell, and it'd be even worse with Ginobili vs Maxwell/Elie. In 03 even though Duncan was at his best, rookie Ginobili and 2nd-year Parker weren't anywhere close to the players they were by 05 and 07, and Stephen Jackson probably wouldn't make up that difference.

The 94 Rockets are one of the weakest title teams I have ever seen. They constantly blew leads and only had one horse on the team to rely on. They almost lost the Finals to a weak Knicks team in a series where Ewing played like a dog. Now if we fast forward to 95, that Rocket team would crush the last 3 Spurs title teams, with the 99 Spurs team being the only one with a shot to beat them.

[Muser]

Yeah, '95 Rockets would be a better comparison.

[djohn2oo8]

The 1999, 2005, and 2007 teams would all beat the 94 Rockets, and the 2003 Spurs vs 94 Rockets series would be close. I don't know why anyone here would think the 2003 Spurs match up best with those Rockets. The 1999 Spurs would crush them, being able to throw prime Robinson and Duncan at Olajuwon. 05 and 07 Olajuwon would kill Nazr Mohammed and Oberto, but Parker would torch Kenny Smith and a rookie Sam Cassell, and it'd be even worse with Ginobili vs Maxwell/Elie. In 03 even though Duncan was at his best, rookie Ginobili and 2nd-year Parker weren't anywhere close to the players they were by 05 and 07, and Stephen Jackson probably wouldn't make up that difference.

The 94 Rockets are one of the weakest title teams I have ever seen. They constantly blew leads and only had one horse on the team to rely on. They almost lost the Finals to a weak Knicks team in a series where Ewing played like a dog. Now if we fast forward to 95, that Rocket team would crush the last 3 Spurs title teams, with the 99 Spurs team being the only one with a shot to beat them.

LOL Weakest title team? I could run with that one, but I'll leave it alone

[baseline bum]

Yeah, '95 Rockets would be a better comparison.

Nah, the 95 Rockets were a wildly underrated team who would slaughter the 03 Spurs. Drexler really opened up the interior for Olajuwon to run wild that year. That Houston team had by far the toughest path to a title I have ever seen. In round 1 they beat a prime Stockton and Malone (60 wins), round 2 a prime Barkley and KJ (59 wins), round 3 a prime Robinson (62 wins), and round 4 a prime Shaq/Hardaway (57 wins), all without homecourt. Titles don't get any more difficult than that.

[TinTin]

For that reason, 2003 is the only team that has a legitimate chance of beating the 94 Rockets.

Failing to comprehend that 2005 team >> 2003 and 2003 team is not what it seemed, you are obviously retarded

[21_Blessings]

Who on that 94 Rocket's team is going to guard 01 Kobe?

Shaq can't guard Hakeem but 01 Shaq is still going to get his 28 and 12.

[Ghazi]

'06 Cheat are the weakest "title" team of all time, considering most people don't even consider them a title team.

[boutons_deux]

"Parker was still young and undependable, often losing minutes to Claxton"

bullshit myth. The 2003 Spurs won over 20 games, lost 1 when Tony got 20+ pts. Can't say the same about Speedy. Speedy hit a couple late shots in the Finals, but has just about disappeared from the NBA since June 2003.

[Bob Lanier]

Duncan's supporting cast is much better than Olajuwon's, even though it's possible Olajuwon will outplay Duncan somewhat.

[Bob Lanier]

And the Admiral was a better defender anyway.
No, but arguable.
That's because Duncan never deserved a DPOY award.
And now you're just a complete idiot.

[21_Blessings]

No, but arguable.

Yes and fact.



And now you're just a complete idiot.

And now you're a complete idiot for implying Duncan deserved a DPOY.

[Cry Havoc]

Who on that 94 Rocket's team is going to guard 01 Kobe?

Shaq can't guard Hakeem but 01 Shaq is still going to get his 28 and 12.

Laker fan being a douche-fag. No surprise here.

[Muser]

Yes and fact.




And now you're a complete idiot for implying Duncan deserved a DPOY.

lol Camby > Duncan.

[dirk4mvp]

This comes down to Hakeem vs Duncan and a hobbled Robinson. A matchup The Dream wins handily.

[dallasmavsnfuego214]

Who on that 94 Rocket's team is going to guard 01 Kobe?

Shaq can't guard Hakeem but 01 Shaq is still going to get his 28 and 12.

:lol insecure

nobody even brought the Lakers into this discussion

[TDMVPDPOY]

spurs in 4 games, outside of hakeem the rockets roster looks crap

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

nobody even brought the Lakers into this discussion

Laker Fans have no reason to talk, or even live for that matter, unless it's about the Lakers.

[D2Procon]

You guys are missing the point... I picked the 2003 Spurs team because they were like the 94 Rockets in terms of having NO ALLSTARS beside the lone bigman. All the other teams 1999, 2005, 2007 had allstars in either David Robinson, Tony Parker or Manu Ginobili....

Like stated above, the 2003 team had Just Tim duncan with a washed up old aged Robinson, a rookie and developing player in Manu and Parker.

[rockets]

You guys are missing the point... I picked the 2003 Spurs team because they were like the 94 Rockets in terms of having NO ALLSTARS beside the lone bigman. All the other teams 1999, 2005, 2007 had allstars in either David Robinson, Tony Parker or Manu Ginobili....

Like stated above, the 2003 team had Just Tim duncan with a washed up old aged Robinson, a rookie and developing player in Manu and Parker.

i think your a faggot

[Back2BackInThe90sFTW]

There's only one team in the state that has produced back to back championships and that is the Houston Rockets!

[djohn2oo8]

i think your a faggot

LMAO at your sig


There's only one team in the state that has produced back to back championships and that is the Houston Rockets!

Can't rest on that, looking toward what we need to address so we can produce more

[Back2BackInThe90sFTW]

Can't rest on that, looking toward what we need to address so we can produce more

The Spurs and Mavs might be teh better but they have not won back to back like the Houston Rockets!

[djohn2oo8]

The Spurs and Mavs might be teh better but they have not won back to back like the Houston Rockets!

First of all, the Mavs haven't won any so take them out of the equation, second, I'd rather have 4 than 2, but fuck it, we'll take those 2 we have, for now

[Back2BackInThe90sFTW]

First of all, the Mavs haven't won any so take them out of the equation, second, I'd rather have 4 than 2, but fuck it, we'll take those 2 we have, for now

4 is ok but it takes teh heart to win back to back and nobody has done that in the state of Texas except teh Houston Rockets!

[Ghazi]

5-1jgNhopNo

[djohn2oo8]

4 is ok but it takes teh heart to win back to back and nobody has done that in the state of Texas except teh Houston Rockets!

I know someone is about to cue the Jordan effect, so I will get this out of the way. People say the only reason the rox won back to back is because Jordan retired. 1st, those people must really believe that Jordan would have won 8 in a row, because I don't. Second, the Rox matched up well with the Bulls in that time, but started to get torched by Jordan when Barkley and Pippen arrived. Third, Jordan said himself that the Rockets would have been their toughest matchup in 93-94, and 94-95.

[dirk4mvp]

Hakeem would make Duncan look worse than he made Robinson look. Then again, Duncan would not have accepted the challenge of guarding Hakeem. Rasho, Bonner, and other stiffs would have been given the task. "I'm a power forward for christs sake."

I agree with the sack of shit here.

[Ghazi]

How the fuck would you know djohn. How old were you when the Rockets won those titles? fucking 2?

[djohn2oo8]

How the fuck would you know djohn. How old were you when the Rockets won those titles? fucking 2?

Does it matter? I still witnessed

[djohn2oo8]

I remember distinctly in 93-94 watching rox/knicks when all of a sudden, OJ in his white Bronco took the game off for some odd minutes

[Ginobilly]

Doesn't really matter cause at the end of the day............Duncan>>Hakeem, 4 - 2 in championships, San Antonio>>>Houston in everything, Virgin Islands>>>>>>>>>>>>Nigeria, Wake Forrest>>>>>University of Houston.....................and












4 rings faggot!

[djohn2oo8]

Doesn't really matter cause at the end of the day............Duncan>>Hakeem, 4 - 2 in championships, San Antonio>>>Houston in everything, Virgin Islands>>>>>>>>>>>>Nigeria, Wake Forrest>>>>>University of Houston.....................and












4 rings faggot!

I hope you're joking :lmao

[dirk4mvp]

crofl Virgin Islands owned by a storm

crofl no swimming pool

[Ginobilly]

I hope you're joking :lmao

What other argument could you make other than Hakeem being better defensively by a slight margin if you compare both their defensive primes. Duncan's been more consistent though.

And Duncan never lost in the finals to a slow-footed, blonde dyke looking white boy from French lick Indiana.:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

What other argument could you make other than Hakeem being better defensively by a slight margin if you compare both their defensive primes. Duncan's been more consistent though.

And Duncan never lost in the finals to a slow-footed, blonde dyke looking white boy from French lick Indiana.:lmao

Dumbest statement all time at spurstalk, or ever made in general. Hakeem carried a team to a title by himself, Duncan had better supporting casts, Hakeem went to the finals twice in an era dominated by Isaiah, Bird, Magic, etc..Hakeem dominated Robinson, or do you not remember, and would have done the same to Duncan

[Ginobilly]

crofl Virgin Islands owned by a storm

crofl no swimming pool

:lmao at the Miami hurricane(AKA Dwayne Wade:nope) sweeping Nazi and Jew boy Dirky&Marky out of the finals.:lmao:rollin:lol

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[Ginobilly]

Dumbest statement all time at spurstalk, or ever made in general. Hakeem carried a team to a title by himself, Duncan had better supporting casts, Hakeem went to the finals twice in an era dominated by Isaiah, Bird, Magic, etc..Hakeem dominated Robinson, or do you not remember, and would have done the same to Duncan

I'll give that Robinson<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Hakeem. But that's it! They don't call him the best PF of all time for nothing. At the end of the day great players are judged by how many championships/finals MVP/MVP they win regardless of whatever era they played. Timmy/Kobe/Shaq>>>>>>>>>>>Lebron until his fingers say otherwise.

[Barfunk]

It would be pretty close. Hakeem was great as was Duncan. Duncan led the team in points, rebounds, blocks, and assists for playoffs i think. Plus 21, 20, 10, and 8 in game 6 of finals to win the championship is a game for the ages.

[baseline bum]

Dumbest statement all time at spurstalk, or ever made in general. Hakeem carried a team to a title by himself, Duncan had better supporting casts, Hakeem went to the finals twice in an era dominated by Isaiah, Bird, Magic, etc..Hakeem dominated Robinson, or do you not remember, and would have done the same to Duncan

What? Hakeem went once in that era. Bird and Magic had long since retired by Hakeem's second finals trip, and Isiah retired that season. Don't tell me you thought Hakeem was on the 81 team that went to the finals.

[crc21209]

lol, '03 Spurs? 3rd best team that year that benefited from Webber and Dirk getting hurt.

:cry :cry :cry

[crc21209]

'06 Cheat are the weakest "title" team of all time, considering most people don't even consider them a title team.

:cry :cry :cry

[D2Procon]

i think your a faggot

You mad because Duncan > Hakeem? Or u mad because you didn't get enough hugs and kisses from your mom when you were little? Or could it be because you still have the 6 foot pole stuck up your ass?

[ezau]

^ Don't be fooled by the names you see. Robinson was in his late 30s and about to retire. Parker was still young and undependable, often losing minutes to Claxton. Ginobili was a rookie.

I still think the 2003 Spurs would win, but I think the 2005 team was the best.

2006 was the best, but who's gonna guard the Dream?

[duhoh]

Rasheed and Ben Wallace were nowhere near Hakeem

learn how to read.