Can anyone pinpoint the moment in time Lopez 'got it'?

[pauls931]

This remains the mystery of the year for me regarding the Suns. I swear officials must have had it in for him. It was amazing how quickly he could rack up fouls, then towards the end of the season, he magically becomes good. Playing 20+ minutes, just a few fouls, some boards, and bonus offense.

What changed? Til someone proves to me otherwise, I think it was officiating determined to show him who's boss.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

This game is when he played really well off the bench:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201001160CHA.html

My guess is Gentry's plan was to get him in the starting lineup ASAP so he used it as an excuse, and this is his first game in the starting lineup:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201001180MEM.html

[tlongII]

Don't know, but I liked when he "got" Fisher with an elbow last night running up the court. That was probably my favorite play of the game! :lmao

[pauls931]

Don't know, but I liked when he "got" Fisher with an elbow last night running up the court. That was probably my favorite play of the game! :lmao

Fisher had it coming. Instead of running back on defense, he stood there hoping someone not looking would run into him. Oops.... I saw more veteran cheap plays out of Fisher last night than any other game I watched this year. Guess you have to tweak your game when you get old.

[tlongII]

Fisher had it coming. Instead of running back on defense, he stood there hoping someone not looking would run into him. Oops.... I saw more veteran cheap plays out of Fisher last night than any other game I watched this year. Guess you have to tweak your game when you get old.

Oh I agree. Fisher is a dirty player now that he's slowing down. That's why I LOVED that elbow. It was great with Lopez running up the court with his arms up as big men usually do and then he just clipped Fisher on the top of the noggin! :lol

[tlongII]

And then Fisher started running after him. Hilarious! :lol

[BadOdor]

Tlong still made Ariza put rudy into early retirement last year.

[stretch]

Fisher is a faggot

[tlongII]

Tlong still made Ariza put rudy into early retirement last year.

Fortunately we've got so many players we don't really need Rudy. If we ever get healthy you guys are DONE!

[SomeCallMeTim]

Fisher had it coming. Instead of running back on defense, he stood there hoping someone not looking would run into him. Oops.... I saw more veteran cheap plays out of Fisher last night than any other game I watched this year. Guess you have to tweak your game when you get old.

Yeah.

Fisher does play a cheap game. It's something you see a lot from smaller (Paul, Stockton) and older (Bowen, Stockton) players. Notice Stockton appears twice. :lol

Think about it: who's most likely to get away with that stuff? Smaller players and older players. Both are likely to play with an edge as "underdogs" who feel they need that stuff to get ahead. And the refs are mostly likely to give leeway to those guys. The worst are guys like Stockton and Fisher who are both older and smaller. :lol

Some teams like the Celtics have that stuff sort of ingrained in their philosophy as a whole.

If it's your opponent doing it, it's "cheap dirty play" but when your team/player does it, it's "doing whatever it takes to win."

[MateoNeygro]

I strongly dislike Fisher.

[Giuseppe]

After .04 it's no wonder, Mat.

tee, hee.

[Scumbag]

What exactly was he going to do if he got to Lopez? :depressed

[Scumbag]

I guarantee you Fish gets some payback from this. Make no mistake about it, before it's all done and said, Lopez will get folded.

He going to hit him with a chair under the ring or something?

[cobbler]

Fisher had it coming. Instead of running back on defense, he stood there hoping someone not looking would run into him. Oops.... I saw more veteran cheap plays out of Fisher last night than any other game I watched this year. Guess you have to tweak your game when you get old.

Oh yeah... he just stood there hoping Lopez wouldnt see him and run into him. Everyone else was already down court.

What a moronic comment!

[cobbler]

What exactly was he going to do if he got to Lopez? :depressed

Put him on the wood just like he did Scola last year. Lopez will pay... count on it.

[Scumbag]

Oh yeah... he just stood there hoping Lopez wouldnt see him and run into him. Everyone else was already down court.

What a moronic comment!


You act like Fisher has never done that. He is a piece of shit it's ok to admit it.

[cobbler]

You act like Fisher has never done that. He is a piece of shit it's ok to admit it.

Done what?

[Scumbag]

Put him on the wood just like he did Scola last year. Lopez will pay... count on it.

Spoken like a true Laker fan, "holmes".

[cobbler]

I'm old school. You hit me, i come back and hit you twice as hard.

[Scumbag]

I quoted you but you are too fucking stupid so let me quote it again.



Oh yeah... he just stood there hoping Lopez wouldnt see him and run into him. Everyone else was already down court.

[Scumbag]

I'm old school. You hit me, i come back and hit you twice as hard.

Yeah I can tell you are one BAD ASS. :wakeup

[cobbler]

I quoted you but you are too fucking stupid so let me quote it again.

What is your point? My point was that there were no Suns left back court. Only Lopez. The comment that he was standing there waiting for someone to simply run into him is moronic. I'm guessing even a retard such as you could see that. Then again...

[da_suns_fan]

I was WRONG about Lopez but not as wrong as I was about Dragic.

I thought Lopez would need a few more years before he would be putting in this type of production.

[cobbler]

Gotta love the ever waviering Suns fans getting bold and talking shit after one victory. In a few days it will be back to the Stern and refs conspiracy thoeries cause it just cant be that they are 0 for life based on basketball. You should see some of thier boards. After game 2... were done... we suck... the refs... stern... Amare is shit... etc After game 3...were badass... watch out now... Amare is god...

:lmao:lmao

[Scumbag]

Oh yeah... he just stood there hoping Lopez wouldnt see him and run into him.


You act like Fisher has never done that. He is a piece of shit it's ok to admit it.


The comment that he was standing there waiting for someone to simply run into him is moronic. I'm guessing even a retard such as you could see that. Then again...


You act like Fisher has never done that. He is a piece of shit it's ok to admit it.

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You know what, nevermind. You are a fucking mongoloid and this is a waste of time.

[da_suns_fan]

Gotta love the ever waviering Suns fans getting bold and talking shit after one victory. In a few days it will be back to the Stern and refs conspiracy thoeries cause it just cant be that they are 0 for life based on basketball.

Boy, youre one insecure douche bag.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Sons shit happens, it's the playoffs. I hate the Lakers but this kind of incessant whining whenever an LA player does something semi-questionable is getting annoying. Nash didn't seem to think that foul from Fisher was mean spirited at all. Fisher and Sarver actually exchanged smiles after talking about it. Fisher went to take a swipe at Nash's midsection and his head in the process broke Nash's nose, it didn't look intentional to me. Lopez and Fisher just got tangled up at the wrong time, no big deal.

So far, this series has only been about which team has played better, and that's the way it should be. The people who sit there looking for fouls and refs to bitch about could end up missing a good series.

[cobbler]

Boy, youre one insecure douche bag.

If being secure in the knowledge that the Lakers are going to take out your Suns is insecurity... then you are correct sir.

[cobbler]

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You know what, nevermind. You are a fucking mongoloid and this is a waste of time.

I'm still trying to undersand your point. If you mean fisher has been adept at taking a charge, ok. But if you are insinuating that he just stands somewhere in the back court hoping an opposing player runs in to him as the other poster claimed... well then... two morons are better than one i guess.

[Scumbag]

Gotta love the ever waviering Suns fans getting bold and talking shit after one victory. In a few days it will be back to the Stern and refs conspiracy thoeries cause it just cant be that they are 0 for life based on basketball. You should see some of thier boards. After game 2... were done... we suck... the refs... stern... Amare is shit... etc After game 3...were badass... watch out now... Amare is god...

If we get eliminated so what? I wake up to go to work the next day. Look at myself in the mirror. See I am young, white, non-obese, contributing member of society. All things the majority of laker fans know nothing about.

Congrats on your next :lobt: be it this year or the next. I am sure makes your lives tolerable, holmez.

[da_suns_fan]

If we get eliminated so what? I wake up to go to work the next day. Look at myself in the mirror. See I am young, white, non-obese, contributing member of society. All things the majority of laker fans know nothing about.

Congrats on your next :lobt: be it this year or the next. I am sure makes your lives tolerable, holmez.

:lol:lol

Gino thread.

[cobbler]

If we get eliminated so what? I wake up to go to work the next day. Look at myself in the mirror. See I am young, white, non-obese, contributing member of society. All things the majority of laker fans know nothing about.

Congrats on your next :lobt: be it this year or the next. I am sure makes your lives tolerable, holmez.

So let me get this straight... Your a racist child with a job at some burger joint who has nothing better to do than make fun of fat people?

[Giuseppe]

Boy, youre one insecure douche bag.

Gee, da, talkin' shit. You disavowed any knowledge of the Suns back in December, da.

Don't even start.

[Scumbag]

But if you are insinuating that he just stands somewhere in the back court hoping an opposing player runs in to him as the other poster claimed... well then... two morons are better than one i guess.

Wasnt it just game 2 that he did this to someone? He hangs back looking for a big not watching where he is running and throws himself to the floor like a little bitch. Next time Lopez should hit him in his eye so he can really feel what his daughter is going through.

[Giuseppe]

See I am young, white, non-obese, contributing member of society.

Well, at least I got the white part covered.

[Giuseppe]

Next time Lopez should hit him in his eye so he can really feel what his daughter is going through.

Good old cockeyed daughter.

tee, hee.

[Scumbag]

So let me get this straight... Your a racist child with a job at some burger joint who has nothing better to do than make fun of fat people?

No that is just a hobby.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Gotta love the ever waviering Suns fans getting bold and talking shit after one victory. In a few days it will be back to the Stern and refs conspiracy thoeries cause it just cant be that they are 0 for life based on basketball. You should see some of thier boards. After game 2... were done... we suck... the refs... stern... Amare is shit... etc After game 3...were badass... watch out now... Amare is god...

:lmao:lmao


This is something nearly every fan base does. Go check in the mouth breather section after the Spurs lose, it's way worse than any Phoenix website.
Fire Pop... Bonner and Bogans suck... I hate Jefferson... the refs hate us... blow up the team...

Then go check after a win:
Pop is the greatest... Jefferson trade was awesome... we'll sneak into the playoffs and contend like usual... Dejuan Blair is the next Charles Barkley... George Hill is like Bruce Bowen with offense... Manu > Kobe

[cobbler]

Wasnt it just game 2 that he did this to someone? He hangs back looking for a big not watching where he is running and throws himself to the floor like a little bitch. Next time Lopez should hit him in his eye so he can really feel what his daughter is going through.

That is a smart play to look for bigs that are not paying attention and put yourself in position for a chage. Completely different from standing in one spot hoping someone runs into you. Your boy Nash is one of the best at it as well.

The eye/daughter comment just shows you for the classless act you are.

[Giuseppe]

This is something nearly every fan base does. Go check in the mouth breather section after the Spurs lose, it's way worse than any Phoenix website.
Fire Pop... Bonner and Bogans suck... I hate Jefferson... the refs hate us... blow up the team...

Then go check after a win:
Pop is the greatest... Jefferson trade was awesome... we'll sneak into the playoffs and contend like usual... Dejuan Blair is the next Charles Barkley... George Hill is like Bruce Bowen with offense... Manu > Kobe

Duncan, gettin' his oats on. Don't you have an on-line degree to accomplish, fartface?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Duncan, gettin' his oats on. Don't you have an on-line degree to accomplish, fartface?


Na Cubby don't have work until 1, where I'll go and finish some accounting thing my boss had me do and dick around on the computer more :lol

[cobbler]

This is something nearly every fan base does. Go check in the mouth breather section after the Spurs lose, it's way worse than any Phoenix website.
Fire Pop... Bonner and Bogans suck... I hate Jefferson... the refs hate us... blow up the team...

Then go check after a win:
Pop is the greatest... Jefferson trade was awesome... we'll sneak into the playoffs and contend like usual... Dejuan Blair is the next Charles Barkley... George Hill is like Bruce Bowen with offense... Manu > Kobe

Of course... we all do it. Just seems to me, from my experience, that the typical Suns fan seems to go to the extreme on both ends of the spectrum.

Bitching about either of the Fisher plays is silly. It's playoff basketball, man up or go home.

[Scumbag]

First of all check my forum name and ask yourself how the fuck you came to the conclusion I have class?

Secondly, if a big isnt paying attention he does a good job and if he is paying attention that little chocolate chimpmunk is going to catch an elbow? You said it yourself, you are old school and the avatar of tough guy.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Of course... we all do it. Just seems to me, from my experience, that the typical Suns fan seems to go to the extreme on both ends of the spectrum.

Bitching about either of the Fisher plays is silly. It's playoff basketball, man up or go home.


Well it depends, if you're looking at sites like arizonasportsfans.com, you're gonna think Phoenix has the most retarded fan base in professional sports.

[Giuseppe]

man up or go home.

Oh, those mofos are goin' home, Cobb. No two ways about it!

They are goin' home, ain't they, Cobb?

[Scumbag]

Oh, those mofos are goin' home, Cobb. No two ways about it!

They are goin' home, ain't they, Cobb?

Cobb is afk atm. The mail man just drove by and he is making sure Obama payed him this week.

[cobbler]

First of all check my forum name and ask yourself how the fuck you came to the conclusion I have class?

Secondly, if a big isnt paying attention he does a good job and if he is paying attention that little chocolate chimpmunk is going to catch an elbow? You said it yourself, you are old school and the avatar of tough guy.

oh yeah... cause forum names are so indicative of the actual person. Perhaps you should change it to "imbecile"?

[Giuseppe]

Well it depends, if you're looking at sites like arizonasportsfans.com

Oh, that f'in place, Duncan. & they got somebody posted at the door 24/7/365. It's an impossible nut to crack.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Bitching about either of the Fisher plays is silly. It's playoff basketball, man up or go home.


I agree, especially since the players aren't even bitching. If Nash said something about it or even Sarver there'd be some justification. No one seemed to have any problem with it and knew it's just what happens in the playoffs.

[cobbler]

Well it depends, if you're looking at sites like arizonasportsfans.com, you're gonna think Phoenix has the most retarded fan base in professional sports.

They are the ones that crack me up.

[pauls931]

Boy, youre one insecure douche bag.

I don't see any suns fan saying the suns kicked the laker's asses or will do so in game 4. What an insecure Laker crowd.. Suns fans are happy they won a game and pleased with Lopez's performance.

[Scumbag]

oh yeah... cause forum names are so indicative of the actual person. Perhaps you should change it to "imbecile"?

Nah, Scumbag works. I'm not sure about this communication beakdown we are having though.

I think the Laker fans and Suns fans would communicate more efficiently if Suns fans would learn spanish. Then we could avoid this whole mess.

[cobbler]

Oh, those mofos are goin' home, Cobb. No two ways about it!

They are goin' home, ain't they, Cobb?

Of course they are. And they will be crying foul the whole way.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Cobb is afk atm. The mail man just drove by and he is making sure Obama payed him this week.


I used to get in these arguments with Cobbler, but trust me when I say he's not your prototypical Phoenix Lakers fan who smells like Taco Bell, wears an XXXL Kobe jersey and takes the lightrail to the game so they can get drunk and start shit with Phoenix fans. He seems like a person who's accomplished on his own.

[Scumbag]

He seems like a person who's an accomplished person on his own.

Yeah I am sure he is one of those entrepreneur laker fans that sells food stamps at half value for real $$.

[cobbler]

I agree, especially since the players aren't even bitching. If Nash said something about it or even Sarver there'd be some justification. No one seemed to have any problem with it and knew it's just what happens in the playoffs.

Anybody who saw the reply knows that was accidental. In real time it looked like Fish might have caught him with an elbow. They bumped heads. Simple as that. One inch either way and it could have been Fish with the broken nose. Much adoo about nothing.

[Xylus]

We're gonna need this kind of production from our big men every night if we hope to stand a chance against the Lakers. Amare and Lopez need to bring it all 48 minutes, and Frye needs to pull his head out of his ass and have one or two good games before the series is over.

I'm not really worried about our wing players... Dudley, Hill, and JRich play with more intensity than anyone else on our team.

[Xylus]

As for Lopez's elbow on Fisher, I'll admit I laughed when it happened. I love the playoffs.

[cobbler]

As for Lopez's elbow on Fisher, I'll admit I laughed when it happened. I love the playoffs.

I laughed as well. It was indeed funny.

But to say fisher stood there hoping Lopez would bowl over him is ridiculous. IMO

[Giuseppe]

Amare and Lopez need to bring it all 48 minutes

Well, Amare already quit for 96 minutes, and by-the-by, Amare quitting for those 2 games will now and forever be rolling stock on this Board, gentlemen.

Do I make myself clear?

Let us proceed...

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

And yeah, most Phoenix Lakers fans are annoying human beings with a huge chip on their shoulder to talk as much shit about the Suns as possible and be the biggest asshole they can be, so LA fans should understand why Suns fans are so hostile towards them. Most of the LA fans on this site are fine if you actually talk basketball with them.

[cobbler]

After seeing his mom at the game yesterday... I would have quit 20 years ago.

Yiiiiikes!

[Scumbag]

But to say fisher stood there hoping Lopez would bowl over him is ridiculous. IMO

Again, how is that ridiculous? The guys done it once successfully this series and attempted it 3 or 4 times every game. You dont think the coaches warned these guys what he does? Robin knew what he was doing with that elbow.

To get pissed and say "Oh man Fisher is gunna fucking fold him for that, that's fucked up odelay holmez! get the gun essay!" then in the next breath say you are fine with physical play is pretty fucking funny.

[da_suns_fan]

Well, Amare already quit for 96 minutes, and by-the-by, Amare quitting for those 2 games will now and forever be rolling stock on this Board, gentlemen.

Do I make myself clear?

Let us proceed...

:lol

Cubbius Horshittius. To say "he quit" implies he showed up in the first place.

I dont know if I could ever get on the Amare bandwagon again, though. Can they really pay a guy max money who doesnt show up for the first two games of the WCF?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Yeah I am sure he is one of those entrepreneur laker fans that sells food stamps at half value for real $$.


Whatever man, I'm just telling you he's probably laughing at comments that make fun of him for being a trashy cholo Lakers fan.

[Scumbag]

Whatever man, I'm just telling you he's probably laughing at comments that make fun of him for being a trashy cholo Lakers fan.

Come on, I thought the entrepreneur laker fan comment was funny.

[pauls931]

I laughed as well. It was indeed funny.

But to say fisher stood there hoping Lopez would bowl over him is ridiculous. IMO

He was probably getting ready to flop and got caught off guard when someone actually hit him for a change.

[da_suns_fan]

I don't see any suns fan saying the suns kicked the laker's asses or will do so in game 4. What an insecure Laker crowd.. Suns fans are happy they won a game and pleased with Lopez's performance.

Neither did I.

Laker fan needs therapy.

[Scumbag]

Laker fans need therapy.

And condoms.

[pauls931]

Neither did I.

Laker fan needs therapy.

Yup, LA still scored around 110 points so even with a few steals, the suns zone D didn't really slow down LA that much.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Come on, I thought the entrepreneur laker fan comment was funny.


Oh it was :lol, the last Suns-Lakers game I was at I got thrown out with a minute left because I said "We already knew you fat Mexicans wanted tacos, you don't need to chant it" after they started chanting we want tacos, just saying that cobbler isn't a Lakers fan who that applies to.

[cobbler]

Again, how is that ridiculous? The guys done it once successfully this series and attempted it 3 or 4 times every game. You dont think the coaches warned these guys what he does? Robin knew what he was doing with that elbow.

To get pissed and say "Oh man Fisher is gunna fucking fold him for that, that's fucked up odelay holmez! get the gun essay!" then in the next breath say you are fine with physical play is pretty fucking funny.

I thought you were through with this convo... make up your mind. Geeeeeeez.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I'm not gonna say Phoenix will kick LA's ass, but if Bynum is out and Lopez keeps playing this way, I like their chances in game 4.

[cobbler]

Whatever man, I'm just telling you he's probably laughing at comments that make fun of him for being a trashy cholo Lakers fan.

It is truly laughable and completely contrary to my Nazi upbringing!

[Scumbag]

I thought you were through with this convo... make up your mind. Geeeeeeez.

Because much like your mexican women, you continually taunt the white man until he must have you.

[pauls931]

I'm not gonna say Phoenix will kick LA's ass, but if Bynum is out and Lopez keeps playing this way, I like their chances in game 4.

Did Bynum get in foul trouble rotating on Amare? I saw him get a couple fouls that way, he was picking up fouls Lopez style.

[cobbler]

Did Bynum get in foul trouble rotating on Amare? I saw him get a couple fouls that way, he was picking up fouls Lopez style.

His lateral movement is pathetic and he is rotating late and hacking to make up for it. If you dont move your feet, you reach, and we know what that gets you.

[Giuseppe]

Because much like your mexican women, you continually taunt the white man until he must have you.

Scum, jumpin' the shark.

tee, hee.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Did Bynum get in foul trouble rotating on Amare? I saw him get a couple fouls that way, he was picking up fouls Lopez style.

I'm guessing Phil considering the possibility of benching him has to do with his knee maybe getting worse and the poor play. I still think being able to bring Odom off the bench and Bynum's lane clogging is important, but LA is still a very good team if he's out.

[BadOdor]

Sons bynum is getting a crash course on zone defense as we speak...look out for him in game 4....






















































:depressed:depressed:depressed

[cobbler]

I'm guessing Phil considering the possibility of benching him has to do with his knee maybe getting worse and the poor play. I still think being able to bring Odom off the bench and Bynum's lane clogging is important, but LA is still a very good team if he's out.

The knee is definetly affecting him. PJ is not going to sit him. That was PJ's way of sending him the message. Play through it with some aggression or you're going to sit.

[BadOdor]

The knee is definetly affecting him. PJ is not going to sit him. That was PJ's way of sending him the message. Play through it with some aggression or you're going to sit.

That's exactly the thing though.....you think bynum gives a shit that he is benched?

He's making them 12 mil a year whether he plays or not. Why run when you can sit on a cushy sit like morrison and yawn?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Sons bynum is getting a crash course on zone defense as we speak...look out for him in game 4....






















































:depressed:depressed:depressed


Hopefully he eats his Wheaties that day (joke intended).

[cobbler]

That's exactly the thing though.....you think bynum gives a shit that he is benched?

He's making them 12 mil a year whether he plays or not. Why run when you can sit on a cushy sit like morrison and yawn?

I actually do think he cares and I bet he comes out with more agression next game. I guess we will see.

[LnGrrrR]

Yup, LA still scored around 110 points so even with a few steals, the suns zone D didn't really slow down LA that much.

True, but it's not like they started with the zone D. The defense got noticeably better somewhere in the middle of the game (I believe it was 2nd quarter) when they started going zone.

[Sisk]

After .04 it's no wonder, Mat.

tee, hee.

:wakeup

[TJastal]

What exactly was he going to do if he got to Lopez? :depressed

:lmao

Fisher is a punkass.

[BadOdor]

Fisher was gonna go scola on lopez's ass.

[Giuseppe]

Fisher is a punkass.

His only saving grace? His cockeyed daughter.

[TJastal]

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You know what, nevermind. You are a fucking mongoloid and this is a waste of time.

:lmao :rollin

There are a few constants in the universe, and this is one of them. Funny thing is, their butts are all chapped about Fisher and his chronic flopping and dirty playing because it shows a lack of class in general so its always fun to point it out. :D

[TJastal]

Fisher was gonna go scola on lopez's ass.

That's a stretch...

Lopez > Scola, Fishpoop would have probably bounced off him like a rubber ball hitting a cement wall

[BadOdor]

That's a stretch...

Lopez > Scola, Fishpoop would have probably bounced off him like a rubber ball hitting a cement wall

lefty????

[Scumbag]

It would take about half a second for me to mention is daughters fake eye cancer to get out of Utah story and get him suspeneded.

[Giuseppe]

It would take about half a second for me to mention is daughters fake eye cancer to get out of Utah story and get him suspeneded.

Nelson tried that tact last Summer,,,,Fish left him, dead in the ground.

[Scumbag]

Then I would rely on plan B. Telling him I was going to rape his daughters empty eye socket but I would wear a condom so my dick doesn't get cancer.

[Giuseppe]

Then I would rely on plan B. Telling him I was going to rape his daughters empty eye socket but I would wear a condom so my dick doesn't get cancer.

He'd tell you were O & 41.