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Amarelooms
05-25-2010, 10:08 PM
LOL at you losers...pathetic

:elephant

tdunk21
05-25-2010, 10:14 PM
lol @ cant figure out zone defense.....

ezau
05-25-2010, 10:16 PM
let's talk zone LOL

BadOdor
05-25-2010, 10:22 PM
lol dallas fan talking about losers.....

Lakers are scoring fine, it;s their D that's the problem.

Jace
05-25-2010, 10:29 PM
No PG

Banzai
05-25-2010, 10:36 PM
I don't recall the Lakers ever having a pg since Phil became coach..he's always used big guards..Ron Harper etc. of course I'm no basketball guru.

mavsfan1000
05-25-2010, 10:37 PM
Still 106 points but it's better than 120 points. A team so good offensively can definitely experiment with things like zone.

Amarelooms
05-25-2010, 10:37 PM
ALL freaking game lol. You are not gonna win by passing the ball around with no movement and then jacking up 3's. They better make big changes or they're going to lose lol

:elephant

mavsfan1000
05-25-2010, 10:38 PM
Alvin Gentry is a genius.

ShoogarBear
05-25-2010, 10:44 PM
It's okay. Artest will eventually get hot and then it will be all over for the Suns.

ShoogarBear
05-25-2010, 10:44 PM
:lol

san antonio spurs
05-25-2010, 10:51 PM
:lol

:lol
For a second there... I thought...

dirk4mvp
05-25-2010, 10:53 PM
lol dallas fan talking about losers.....

Lakers are scoring fine, it;s their D that's the problem.

lmao jews

lol cheap asses

lol cool hat bro

picc84
05-25-2010, 10:54 PM
The GOAT coach will come up with a gameplan to counter.

ezau
05-25-2010, 11:10 PM
Were the Suns using the 2-3 zone all game long?

Budkin
05-25-2010, 11:13 PM
Seriously, a team that experienced and talented should have no trouble busting up the zone...

duhoh
05-25-2010, 11:18 PM
i'd expect a zone offense to play well against a zone defense. but who knew?

ducks
05-25-2010, 11:19 PM
Seriously, a team that experienced and talented should have no trouble busting up the zone...

all phil knows is the triangle:lol:lol:lol:lol
12 million for triangle:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

TheMACHINE
05-25-2010, 11:20 PM
Sasha would kill that zone!

tee hee

Amarelooms
05-25-2010, 11:22 PM
Were the Suns using the 2-3 zone all game long?

ALL GAME SON....

I would put Kobe at point...Fisher at corner for 3's. Gotta dribble penetrate and have players cutting...then crash the boards.

Also the second Fisher makes a long 2 with his toe on the 3 point line I take his ass right out the game....

:elephant

ducks
05-25-2010, 11:24 PM
No PG

triangle no need

picc84
05-25-2010, 11:25 PM
Fools, what part of GOAT COACH don't you understand?

LnGrrrR
05-25-2010, 11:36 PM
I doubt that Kobe continues to hit threes at a 66.6% rate.

mogrovejo
05-26-2010, 05:21 AM
It's because of Bynum, he doesn't know that to break a zone you attack the middle. If only Bynum knew such a simple thing, there would be no problems.

ezau
05-26-2010, 06:10 AM
ALL GAME SON....

I would put Kobe at point...Fisher at corner for 3's. Gotta dribble penetrate and have players cutting...then crash the boards.

Also the second Fisher makes a long 2 with his toe on the 3 point line I take his ass right out the game....

:elephant

Fuck. It's amazing how a simple 2-3 zone can turn the defending champions look like clueless high school kids playing in a FIBA-sanctioned tournament.

jacobdrj
05-26-2010, 06:35 AM
It's because of Bynum, he doesn't know that to break a zone you attack the middle. If only Bynum knew such a simple thing, there would be no problems.

Do you suggest they bench Bynum?

Now is not the time to learn, and Odom/Pau is plenty big a center/power-forward combo against a smallball Suns team. Imposing their will with Bynum, according to you,just doesn't work?

easy7
05-26-2010, 07:06 AM
Streaky threes have taken the 10 inch dick out of the Spurs ass and put it in the Lakers. :lmao

pauls931
05-26-2010, 07:11 AM
triangle no need

Only best player in league required. Only works if you have someone named Kobe or Jordan running it.

If Phil was young enough, I'd guarantee he'd show up where Lebron was in a year or two.

mogrovejo
05-26-2010, 07:20 AM
Do you suggest they bench Bynum?

Now is not the time to learn, and Odom/Pau is plenty big a center/power-forward combo against a smallball Suns team. Imposing their will with Bynum, according to you,just doesn't work?

I was being sarcastic. Bynum is as lost against the zone as any other guy, including Gasol. They lack either the synchronization or the dependable outside shooting needed to beat the zone consistently. They need practices or their shots to start falling more.

No, I think they need to keep playing Bynum. The only reason they're a superior team to Phoenix is their size. Why give away their advantage voluntarily?

ballhog
05-26-2010, 07:57 AM
This series is going to come down to how the Suns defend. They can always score in bunches. If the Zone works....don't knock it. Question is....can Lakers outshoot the Suns?

Amarelooms
05-26-2010, 08:03 AM
I was being sarcastic. Bynum is as lost against the zone as any other guy, including Gasol. They lack either the synchronization or the dependable outside shooting needed to beat the zone consistently. They need practices or their shots to start falling more.

No, I think they need to keep playing Bynum. The only reason they're a superior team to Phoenix is their size. Why give away their advantage voluntarily?

Son if Phoenix some how wins I hope they play zone against the Celtics...that's going to be funny. Rondo gonna drive right past Nash and Ray Ray, Pierce, etc are going to go off

:elephant

scanry
05-26-2010, 08:14 AM
:elephant

The pink elephant thingy, is that your sign off after a post?

picc84
05-26-2010, 08:36 AM
Phil's just "letting them play through it". You know thats PJ's motto and answer to everything. The best coaching is no coachingl. :toast

JamStone
05-26-2010, 08:43 AM
9-for-28 (32%) from three point range isn't a horrible shooting game for the Lakers. On a lot of nights, that would be a decent percentage from long range. One of the main problems is the number of three pointers and long two point jumpers the Lakers are taking. That's not who they are. If they were the Suns or the Magic and that is what their personnel catered to and what their offensive strategy was supposed to be, then it would be fine. But outside of Derek Fisher (and he's not exactly the most consistent jumpshooter anymore), they don't really feature great three point shooters. What's disturbing is the amount of threes and long jumpers their settling for against the zone.

Basically every TNT and ESPN analyst had the same thing to say before and after the game. The Lakers have to consistently attack the middle of the zone to force the defense to collapse. It's such a simple banality and generality, but that's when the Lakers can actually get better and easier shot opportunities than they have been getting. Whether by getting one of the bigs right in that free throw/high post area or by dribble penetration, the Lakers have to force the zone to collapse. They're too content in swinging the ball around the perimeter and settling for long jumpers. It shows with the number of free throw attempts they had. 13 FTA for a Laker team with such a great advantage inside means they are just not attacking the defense.

Kobe's great performance skews the numbers. The offense looked decent if you just look at the boxscore where they shot almost 50% and scored 106 points. On many nights that's a good offensive output. Not last night. Plus, in the second half, I believe ESPN said they shot something like 33% from the field against the zone. They were settling for too many jumpers and not attacking the zone.

mavsfan1000
05-26-2010, 03:55 PM
I doubt that Kobe continues to hit threes at a 66.6% rate.
Obviously you aren't aware of playoff Kobe then.

in2deep
05-26-2010, 03:55 PM
Phil's just "letting them play through it". You know thats PJ's motto and answer to everything. The best coaching is no coachingl. :toast

:lol

if it works for Phil he is the greatest ever

LnGrrrR
05-26-2010, 06:15 PM
Obviously you aren't aware of playoff Kobe then.

He's 27 for 66 in these playoffs from outside the arc, a 40.9% 3 pt percentage. Not bad, but not 66%.

And if you take out last night's game, then he's 21 for 57, which is 36.8%, slightly higher than his career 34%.

mavsfan1000
05-26-2010, 06:29 PM
He's 27 for 66 in these playoffs from outside the arc, a 40.9% 3 pt percentage. Not bad, but not 66%.

And if you take out last night's game, then he's 21 for 57, which is 36.8%, slightly higher than his career 34%.
True but zone defense allows him to shoot better. Having Nash in the zone is a weakness no doubt rather than Hill or Dragic guarding him. And the bigger the situation, the more Kobe focuses.

ezau
05-26-2010, 09:08 PM
Phil's just "letting them play through it". You know thats PJ's motto and answer to everything. The best coaching is no coachingl. :toast

:lol

ShoogarBear
05-29-2010, 09:27 PM
It's okay. Artest will eventually get hot and then it will be all over for the Suns.

:smokin