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TampaDude
05-25-2010, 10:54 PM
PJ saying how the Lakers outshot the Suns from the field in Games 3 and 4, and how "the FTs were the difference"...he just can't stop poking at the refs, can he??? :lmao

picc84
05-25-2010, 10:57 PM
Its all part of his ultimate plan. Mind games.

GOAT coach.

D2Procon
05-25-2010, 11:00 PM
Phil Jackson is an idiot, he has yet to realize that David Stern is on his side.

mavsfan1000
05-25-2010, 11:01 PM
Yes they fouled the suns like 5 times at the end of the game. They really have no answer for Amare. Maybe the Lakers go to zone. lol

ducks
05-25-2010, 11:01 PM
can not the great phil jackson adjust?

all he has to do is drop the triangle o

TheMACHINE
05-25-2010, 11:02 PM
PJ saying how the Lakers outshot the Suns from the field in Games 3 and 4, and how "the FTs were the difference"...he just can't stop poking at the refs, can he??? :lmao

Whats the FT difference in the last 2 games anyways?

lurker
05-25-2010, 11:02 PM
He's such a bitch.

DesignatedT
05-25-2010, 11:03 PM
the guy is unbelievable. class a prick.

ducks
05-25-2010, 11:04 PM
Whats the FT difference in the last 2 games anyways?

are you not connected to the internet
can you not find it

The Franchise
05-25-2010, 11:04 PM
Its all part of his ultimate plan. Mind games.

GOAT coach.

GOAT coach my ass, unless you meant he coached Mike. Most coaches would win with the teams he's coached. Let him go to the Timberwolves and win something then I will call him the GOAT. :lol

ducks
05-25-2010, 11:04 PM
for 12 million a year you think phil could make adjustments atleast between games

ducks
05-25-2010, 11:05 PM
mike brown on the lakers would win
especially against the zone

picc84
05-25-2010, 11:06 PM
for 12 million a year you think phil could make adjustments atleast between games

But he has 10 rings. That means he's the GOAT coach.

Pelicans78
05-25-2010, 11:06 PM
Good motivator, leader, but has been outcoached in the Finals before. X's and O's is not is strength. Plus, he's stuck with Fisher, the worst PG in the league.

mavsfan1000
05-25-2010, 11:07 PM
GOAT coach my ass, unless you meant he coached Mike. Most coaches would win with the teams he's coached. Let him go to the Timberwolves and win something then I will call him the GOAT. :lol
Every great coach needs a lot of talent. He makes the talent win championships though. More than any other coach. His mind games are quite clever to.

ducks
05-25-2010, 11:09 PM
Good motivator, leader, but has been outcoached in the Finals before. X's and O's is not is strength. Plus, he's stuck with Fisher, the worst PG in the league.

he also has the best player in the nba
fisher is not the worst pg

he blasted nash a few good times this series
and in az he light up the suns

DUNCANownsKOBE2
05-25-2010, 11:10 PM
GOAT coach my ass, unless you meant he coached Mike. Most coaches would win with the teams he's coached. Let him go to the Timberwolves and win something then I will call him the GOAT. :lol


What coach would be able to do anything with the Timberwolves. It's not like there's ever been a coach that won a championship with a team that was built around Antoine Walker Danny Fortson and Smush Parker.

duhoh
05-25-2010, 11:10 PM
Every great coach needs a lot of talent. He makes the talent win championships though. More than any other coach. His mind games are quite clever to.

:toast

a team can be stacked, but still fail hard. i think KFC is overrated, but he does manage egos well to a degree.

An Unbiased Fan
05-25-2010, 11:10 PM
Phil's right. LA hasn't lost a game yet in the playoffs without a huge FT difference for the other team.

LA in 6 :toast

Orl in 7 :wakeup

TampaDude
05-25-2010, 11:13 PM
Whats the FT difference in the last 2 games anyways?

Game 3: 42-20 in favor of the Suns
Game 4: 32-13 in favor of the Suns
Total: 74-33 in favor of the Suns

Wow...guess the zone does work...at least against the Lakers.

Pelicans78
05-25-2010, 11:14 PM
2004 Pistons wasn't a stacked team.

ducks
05-25-2010, 11:14 PM
28 three point attempts
and lakers fouled suns alto under 2 minutes of game to try to catch up

TampaDude
05-25-2010, 11:15 PM
28 three point attempts
and lakers fouled suns alto under 2 minutes of game to try to catch up

True...how many of those FTAs for PHX were intentional fouls by LA?

TheMACHINE
05-25-2010, 11:16 PM
true...how many of those ftas for phx were intentional fouls by la?

4

An Unbiased Fan
05-25-2010, 11:17 PM
28 three point attempts
and lakers fouled suns alto under 2 minutes of game to try to catch up
Suns took 30 three pointers.........

TheMACHINE
05-25-2010, 11:17 PM
Game 3: 42-20 in favor of the Suns
Game 4: 32-13 in favor of the Suns
Total: 74-33 in favor of the Suns

Wow...guess the zone does work...at least against the Lakers.

agreed...

ducks
05-25-2010, 11:17 PM
wonder how many teams next year the lakers will face the zone

ducks
05-25-2010, 11:18 PM
Suns took 30 three pointers.........

to bad they know how to make them unlike the lakers:lol

An Unbiased Fan
05-25-2010, 11:21 PM
to bad they know how to make them unlike the lakers:lol
Meh, the Suns made 11, and LA made 9 on 2 less attempts. LA outperformed PHX the last 2 games, but PHX got 20+ more FTs a game which was the difference.

Giuseppe
05-25-2010, 11:22 PM
Meh, the Suns made 11, and LA made 9 on 2 less attempts. LA outperformed PHX the last 2 games, but PHX got 20+ more FTs a game which was the difference.

I hope to Christ yer right.

ducks
05-25-2010, 11:22 PM
I guess they attacked the paint to other then shot threes

TampaDude
05-25-2010, 11:23 PM
to bad they know how to make them unlike the lakers:lol

In Game 3, the Lakers actually shot better from 3 than the Suns.

picc84
05-25-2010, 11:27 PM
10 rings

How can you criticize someone with 10 rings?

An Unbiased Fan
05-25-2010, 11:28 PM
I hope to Christ yer right.
No worries, this is just a repeat of the OKC series.

ducks
05-25-2010, 11:28 PM
he win one with the bulls next year I would give him props

ducks
05-25-2010, 11:28 PM
No worries, this is just a repeat of the OKC series.

suns are >>>>>>>okc

cobbler
05-25-2010, 11:30 PM
to bad they know how to make them unlike the lakers:lol


3 point shooting for the series.

Lakers: 40.9 %

Suns: 31.5 %


Nice try :lmao

ducks
05-25-2010, 11:31 PM
will be even after game 5

cobbler
05-25-2010, 11:32 PM
will be even after game 5

And you will make another moronic comment then no doubt. :lol

An Unbiased Fan
05-25-2010, 11:36 PM
suns are >>>>>>>okc
Not really. LA has outplayed PHX in every game so far. If not for 40+ FTs, LA would have swept.

JamStone
05-25-2010, 11:37 PM
PJ saying how the Lakers outshot the Suns from the field in Games 3 and 4, and how "the FTs were the difference"...he just can't stop poking at the refs, can he??? :lmao

Jackson is a smug SOB but what he's saying is technically accurate. The Suns have won the last two games at the three point line. But that's of course a product of the Suns actually being more aggressive on offense while the zone has apparently forced the Lakers content with jacking up long jumpers and not drawing fouls.



3 point shooting for the series.

Lakers: 40.9 %

Suns: 31.5 %


Nice try :lmao

But it's a problem when the Phoenix Suns are more judicious with their three point shot selection than your team. They are shooting about the same number of threes for the series and the Lakers are shooting better from three, but at least for the last two games, the Suns are taking better three point shot attempts. Lakers are taking poor three pointers, especially guys like Farmar and Brown.

ducks
05-25-2010, 11:39 PM
Not really. LA has outplayed PHX in every game so far. If not for 40+ FTs, LA would have swept.

if lakers were mor eagreesive they would have swepted
suns wanted it more
and attacked
lakers were not the better team tonight
they sucked donkey balls tonight

LnGrrrR
05-25-2010, 11:40 PM
Not really. LA has outplayed PHX in every game so far. If not for 40+ FTs, LA would have swept.

Waah, waaah, the refs are biased AGAINST the Lakers :lol

Amar'e might be a reason that the Suns are getting free throws.

cobbler
05-25-2010, 11:41 PM
But it's a problem when the Phoenix Suns are more judicious with their three point shot selection than your team. They are shooting about the same number of threes for the series and the Lakers are shooting better from three, but at least for the last two games, the Suns are taking better three point shot attempts. Lakers are taking poor three pointers, especially guys like Farmar and Brown.

Couldn't agree more.

Giuseppe
05-25-2010, 11:41 PM
Amar'e might be a reason that the Suns are getting free throws.

He's also the reason it's 2-2. Thank, Christ.

LnGrrrR
05-25-2010, 11:45 PM
He's also the reason it's 2-2. Thank, Christ.

:lol

Very true. It seems as Amar'e goes, so goes the Suns. If he shows up to play the rest of the series, it will be very interesting.

I don't think it bodes well that Kobe can have, what, a 38/8/10 night and you guys still lose? Especially when Kobe shot such a high percentage.

An Unbiased Fan
05-25-2010, 11:45 PM
Waah, waaah, the refs are biased AGAINST the Lakers :lol

Amar'e might be a reason that the Suns are getting free throws.
Well, LA can't touch him or else it's a foul, so yes you are correct.

D2Procon
05-25-2010, 11:46 PM
Only a retard would say the refs helped the Suns out. We all know Stern wants a Lakers Celtics rematch.

An Unbiased Fan
05-25-2010, 11:47 PM
if lakers were mor eagreesive they would have swepted
suns wanted it more
and attacked
lakers were not the better team tonight
they sucked donkey balls tonight
Nonsense. LA was aggressive, they just got no calls.

cobbler
05-25-2010, 11:47 PM
:lol

Very true. It seems as Amar'e goes, so goes the Suns. If he shows up to play the rest of the series, it will be very interesting.

I don't think it bodes well that Kobe can have, what, a 38/8/10 night and you guys still lose? Especially when Kobe shot such a high percentage.

Both these losses really had nothing to do with offense even though the whole ZONE thing is being so talked about. They have lost their intensity on D. They are being outhustled. Very much the same way they got their 2 losses against OKC.

An Unbiased Fan
05-25-2010, 11:49 PM
Only a retard would say the refs helped the Suns out. We all know Stern wants a Lakers Celtics rematch.
Or maybe wants LA to lose, so Phil leaves to coach Lelbow.

Either way, LA in 6. Kobe > Stern :wakeup

Jeremy
05-25-2010, 11:49 PM
He's also the reason it's 2-2. Thank, Christ.

Are you saying the Suns are the better team? (If Amare had showed up?)

wanggi
05-25-2010, 11:50 PM
Both these losses really had nothing to do with offense even though the whole ZONE thing is being so talked about. They have lost their intensity on D. They are being outhustled. Very much the same way they got their 2 losses against OKC.

They will lose again if they think the way you do.:toast

LnGrrrR
05-25-2010, 11:51 PM
Waaahhhhh! It's so unfair! How come the Lakers don't always get more FT's than the other team???!? WAHH!!

fify

An Unbiased Fan
05-25-2010, 11:54 PM
fify
:lol

I can't wait to see your reaction when Orlando gets all the FTs in game 5. I'm not psychic, but we all know it will happen. :downspin:

LnGrrrR
05-25-2010, 11:56 PM
Factors that surely had nothing to do with the Suns winning this game:

Suns vs Lakers rebounds: 51 to 36
Suns bench vs Lakers bench: 20 of 32 to 8 of 26

LnGrrrR
05-25-2010, 11:56 PM
:lol

I can't wait to see your reaction when Orlando gets all the FTs in game 5. I'm not psychic, but we all know it will happen. :downspin:

So... you didn't see the Cavaliers series? :lol

An Unbiased Fan
05-25-2010, 11:59 PM
So... you didn't see the Cavaliers series? :lol
I was one of the few who picked Boston in 6. And much like this series, FTs kept that series closer than it really was.

JamStone
05-26-2010, 12:00 AM
I think it's obvious that the zone was at least a little bit of a factor. While the numbers do look solid, the Lakers just don't seem fluid or comfortable on the offensive end. You would think when a team scores 106 points on 50% shooting from the field, it was a good offensive night. Not necessarily. Those numbers are skewed greatly by Kobe's game tonight, and while he was hot from the field, a lot of his shots weren't great shots to take. He's just a hell of a player. They weren't all breaking down the zone.

That said, while the zone definitely played a role, the Lakers still have wayyyyyy more issues defensively they have to address and solve. And the rebounding or lack thereof is unacceptable.

LnGrrrR
05-26-2010, 12:04 AM
I was one of the few who picked Boston in 6. And much like this series, FTs kept that series closer than it really was.

Agreed.

You may have a point this game.. I saw only small bits of it. But last game the Suns were just more aggressive and earned the FT disparity. Refs aren't under some rule to hand out an even number of FTs after all.

cobbler
05-26-2010, 12:07 AM
They will lose again if they think the way you do.:toast

You may just get the trophy for most idiotic post in one night. :toast

wanggi
05-26-2010, 12:10 AM
Both these losses really had nothing to do with offense even though the whole ZONE thing is being so talked about. They have lost their intensity on D. They are being outhustled. Very much the same way they got their 2 losses against OKC.

Being a so-called smart Lakerfan, ya ain't know it's because of Suns bench offense win the game?