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hater
05-26-2010, 09:39 AM
First we must move Bonner + Mason out. And try to at least grab 1 veteran 3pt shooter. Shit I'd give up RJ for Salmons or Outlaw.

We need shooters but also shooters than are not a liability in D and not stagnate the offense. I also prefer bigger guys if possible. All these guys shoot over 38% and I beleive none of these guys are locked up long in contracts. (I might be wrong)
1. Salmons
2. Outlaw
3. Belinelli
4. Nocioni
5. QRich
6. Mike Miller

if all else fails: Nick Young/Raja Bell?

anyone else that might help out with out 3pt shooting situation?

Phenomanul
05-26-2010, 09:42 AM
If Mike Miller cuts his hair... he does sound like a good option... I don't even know if he is a viable one though...

Pero
05-26-2010, 09:42 AM
Uh Salmons is kind of the odd man out in your list, don't know why you put him in. Because he's sort of a star and an important piece in Bucks' team.

hater
05-26-2010, 09:43 AM
Uh Salmons is kind of the odd man out in your list, don't know why you put him in. Because he's sort of a star and an important piece in Bucks' team.

I guess so. And to think we could have got him last season....

urunobili
05-26-2010, 10:02 AM
RJ for Nocioni and some warm bodies would work for both sides I believe :)

Mel_13
05-26-2010, 10:05 AM
I guess so. And to think we could have got him last season....

Getting him and keeping him are two different things. The only reason he may be a FA is because he played well enough to consider opting out of a 5.8M guarantee. He'll be looking for a multi-year deal starting at around the MLE.

To your list:

1. Salmons- out of our price range
2. Outlaw- same as above
3. Belinelli- still under rookie contract. I suppose Toronto would listen to a deal that took Hedo's obscene contract off their hands, but the Spurs won't do that.
4. Nocioni-still has three years left on contract (last year is a team option) at close to 7M/yr. RJ for Noc and Beno? I think Sac does that deal, but not the Spurs.
5. QRich- could be available for the LLE, which is probably the best we can offer
6. Mike Miller-see 1&2 above
7. Nick Young- still under rookie contract
8. Raja Bell- could very well be available for the LLE.

See this post by MaNu4Tres over in the ThinkTank. Covers this topic very well:

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4374935&postcount=26

Ditty
05-26-2010, 10:52 AM
channing frye is who we need maybe hairston and temple could build consistend jump shots if not maybe spurs can grab desean butler from west virgina if he goes undrafted

DAF86
05-26-2010, 11:05 AM
Parker needs to work on the corner three.

PDXSpursFan
05-26-2010, 11:07 AM
My choice: Kyle Korver :toast

Mal
05-26-2010, 11:09 AM
My choice: Kyle Korver :toast

I can say, 15 years younger Reggie Miller, and we have same chance to get "my choice"

BadOne
05-26-2010, 11:13 AM
Parker needs to work on the corner three.

I'd like to see him develop the 3 shot off the dribble from just about anywhere like CP3 or Deron Williams can [on occasion], though yes, that corner 3 is almost always going to be there. If he can develop the shot half as good as he did his perimeter jumper after 04, than he can really boost the team's offense.

Korver or Miller would be great, but what is the likelihood of them signing to S.A. Would they take the vet minimum or more? [Assuming we use the full MLE on Splitter that is...]

BTW...nice sig...:hat

Mel_13
05-26-2010, 11:13 AM
I can say, 15 years younger Reggie Miller, and we have same chance to get "my choice"

:lol

DPG21920
05-26-2010, 11:17 AM
I would love Morrow on this team, but I have no idea what GS thinks about him or how much he would cost.

Dr. Gonzo
05-26-2010, 11:31 AM
Nocioni sucks.

DAF86
05-26-2010, 11:43 AM
Nocioni sucks.

Totally overrated in the NBA.

honestfool84
05-26-2010, 11:47 AM
First we must move Bonner + Mason out. And try to at least grab 1 veteran 3pt shooter. Shit I'd give up RJ for Salmons or Outlaw.

We need shooters but also shooters than are not a liability in D and not stagnate the offense. I also prefer bigger guys if possible. All these guys shoot over 38% and I beleive none of these guys are locked up long in contracts. (I might be wrong)
1. Salmons
2. Outlaw
3. Belinelli
4. Nocioni
5. QRich
6. Mike Miller

if all else fails: Nick Young/Raja Bell?

anyone else that might help out with out 3pt shooting situation?

i know of a guy who used to shoot 0.397% two years ago from the 3pt line... we should go after him!


oh, wait. :rolleyes his name is Richard FREAKING Jefferson.

Ghazi
05-26-2010, 12:10 PM
:lol

DUNCANownsKOBE2
05-26-2010, 12:12 PM
I would love Morrow on this team, but I have no idea what GS thinks about him or how much he would cost.


Fuck you, I want Morrow on the Suns :lol

easy7
05-26-2010, 12:36 PM
I hate to say this but Bonner will probably still be here next year.

lefty
05-26-2010, 12:43 PM
Reddick !

TIMMYD!
05-26-2010, 12:59 PM
Reddick !

That could be an option but I doubt Orlando doesn't try to resign him.

hater
05-26-2010, 01:03 PM
Stevie Blake anyone?

I'd go for Kyle Korver in a second (Bonner + Mason for him?)

Mel_13
05-26-2010, 01:08 PM
Stevie Blake anyone?

I'd go for Kyle Korver in a second (Bonner + Mason for him?)

Bonner and Mason are FAs. They can't be traded except as part of a sign and trade. That's not very likely in any case and a non-starter with regard to Korver. Utah likes Korver and he likes Utah. In all likelihood, he stays right where he is.

lefty
05-26-2010, 01:10 PM
That could be an option but I doubt Orlando doesn't try to resign him.
I know, I know :depressed

hater
05-26-2010, 01:11 PM
Nocioni sucks.

IMO he sucks when he is on shitty teams. A la Rasheed. IMO he still has some left in the tank and is a pretty good clutch 3pt shooter.

He'd be miles improvement over Mason + Bonner

nkdlunch
05-26-2010, 01:14 PM
Does anyone think Brad Miller > Bonner?

hater
05-26-2010, 01:17 PM
i know of a guy who used to shoot 0.397% two years ago from the 3pt line... we should go after him!


oh, wait. :rolleyes his name is Richard FREAKING Jefferson.



We need shooters but also shooters than are not a liability in D and not stagnate the offense. I also prefer bigger guys if possible.

:rolleyes

Mel_13
05-26-2010, 01:18 PM
Does anyone think Brad Miller > Bonner?


Nearly everyone thinks Brad Miller > Bonner.

Brad was paid 12.2M last season while Bonner was paid 3.2M.

in2deep
05-26-2010, 01:22 PM
IMO Spurs will try to draft 1 pure shooter and go for a solid veteran shooter. THat's what I would do.

Draft: James Anderson - lights out shooter although needs to increase his range

now we just need a good veteran shooter

TP
Manu
RJ
TD
Dyess

Blair
Hill
Splitter :greedy
vet shooter
Bonner
Temple
rookie shooter

dbestpro
05-26-2010, 01:23 PM
Dorell Wright.

DAF86
05-26-2010, 01:25 PM
IMO Spurs will try to draft 1 pure shooter and go for a solid veteran shooter. THat's what I would do.

Draft: James Anderson - lights out shooter although needs to increase his range

now we just need a good veteran shooter

How can he be a "lights out shooter" and still need to improve his range?

RandomGuy
05-26-2010, 01:27 PM
First we must move Bonner + Mason out. And try to at least grab 1 veteran 3pt shooter. Shit I'd give up RJ for Salmons or Outlaw.

We need shooters but also shooters than are not a liability in D and not stagnate the offense. I also prefer bigger guys if possible. All these guys shoot over 38% and I beleive none of these guys are locked up long in contracts. (I might be wrong)
1. Salmons
2. Outlaw
3. Belinelli
4. Nocioni
5. QRich
6. Mike Miller

if all else fails: Nick Young/Raja Bell?

anyone else that might help out with out 3pt shooting situation?

Hmmm, don't feel like giving Mason a bit more time to grow into the spot?

in2deep
05-26-2010, 01:28 PM
How can he be a "lights out shooter" and still need to improve his range?

sorry I meant mid range game

according to draftexpress

dbestpro
05-26-2010, 01:31 PM
Rookie: Luke Babbitt

vander
05-26-2010, 02:05 PM
what good are spot up 3 point shooters when there's no one on the roster who commands a double team?

in2deep
05-26-2010, 02:10 PM
what good are spot up 3 point shooters when there's no one on the roster who commands a double team?

so what is your solution? to get a guy that commands double teams?

good luck with that :rolleyes

honestfool84
05-26-2010, 02:14 PM
:rolleyes

isn't that what we all thought RJ would be BEFORE the season started?
:rolleyes

Mel_13
05-26-2010, 02:15 PM
so what is your solution? to get a guy that commands double teams?

good luck with that :rolleyes

Awww, stop picking on vander, he's still depressed because of Manu's extension.

tdunk21
05-26-2010, 02:20 PM
tony allen?
raja bell
kyle korver
wes mathews

lefty
05-26-2010, 02:22 PM
tony allen?
raja bell
kyle korver
wes mathews
Tony Allen is not a real 3 pt shooter

tdunk21
05-26-2010, 02:24 PM
Tony Allen is not a real 3 pt shooter

thats y i had a question mark next to his name.....maybe for defense

lefty
05-26-2010, 02:37 PM
thats y i had a question mark next to his name.....maybe for defense
Ah ok, my bad


Speak of D and 3, can we get Posey? :D

DAF86
05-26-2010, 02:41 PM
Ah ok, my bad


Speak of D and 3, can we get Posey? :D

What about youth and athleticism?

Mel_13
05-26-2010, 02:43 PM
Ah ok, my bad


Speak of D and 3, can we get Posey? :D

No.

Old and coming off a horrible season (FG%-37%, 3P%-34%)

2 years and 12.4M left on his contract.

Boston was smart to let him walk.

lefty
05-26-2010, 02:45 PM
What about youth and athleticism?


No.

Old and coming off a horrible season (FG%-37%, 3P%-34%)

2 years and 12.4M left on his contract.

Boston was smart to let him walk.
Dudes

It's the Spurs

We don't like young, athletic and accurate players


Be real.

vander
05-26-2010, 02:47 PM
Awww, stop picking on vander, he's still depressed because of Manu's extension.

:lol actually, OP's problem is solved, Manu is basically just a 3 point shooter now, and we signed him for 3 years. 3 point shooting problem solved :king


now we just need a player who can create offense and a player who can defend the paint

Mel_13
05-26-2010, 02:47 PM
Dudes

It's the Spurs

We don't like young, athletic and accurate players


Be real.

:lol

At least suggest an old/unathletic guy who can still make his threes.

lefty
05-26-2010, 02:54 PM
:lol

At least suggest an old/unathletic guy who can still make his threes.
Steve Kerr :D

ducks
05-26-2010, 02:55 PM
tp can hit the corner three

vander
05-26-2010, 02:59 PM
tp can hit the corner three

but he can't get to the hoop anymore

Mel_13
05-26-2010, 03:05 PM
what good are spot up 3 point shooters when there's no one on the roster who commands a double team?


:lol actually, OP's problem is solved, Manu is basically just a 3 point shooter now, and we signed him for 3 years. 3 point shooting problem solved :king


now we just need a player who can create offense and a player who can defend the paint


but he can't get to the hoop anymore

Admirable that you continue to support such a terribly flawed team. I hope Bonner's departure doesn't cause you to lose all hope.

vander
05-26-2010, 03:07 PM
Admirable that you continue to support such a terribly flawed team. I hope Bonner's departure doesn't cause you to lose all hope.

why you always got to make it about me? this is spurstalk, not vandertalk

tdunk21
05-26-2010, 03:23 PM
:lol

At least suggest an old/unathletic guy who can still make his threes.

anthony parker...lol

cheguevara
05-26-2010, 03:47 PM
anthony parker...lol

IMO that is not a bad suggestion.

rascal
05-26-2010, 05:52 PM
what good are spot up 3 point shooters when there's no one on the roster who commands a double team?

Get away from spot up shooters, winning that way is over for the spurs, time to adjust. Get all around athletes that can take it to the rack and hit midrange jumpers. Get RJ going in the open court and he will be an improved overall player.


Tighten up the defense on the frontline, get rid of Bonner, Bogans, Mason, Ian, and move McDyess to the bench and get all around athletes to fill out the roster.

tdunk21
05-26-2010, 10:16 PM
Get away from spot up shooters, winning that way is over for the spurs, time to adjust. Get all around athletes that can take it to the rack and hit midrange jumpers. Get RJ going in the open court and he will be an improved overall player.


Tighten up the defense on the frontline, get rid of Bonner, Bogans, Mason, Ian, and move McDyess to the bench and get all around athletes to fill out the roster.

am sure RJ will show up next season coz its final year of his contract...so yeah, RJ will play.....

ajh18
05-27-2010, 12:31 AM
I wonder about trying to pry Daniel Gibson away from Cleveland. His minutes and role have been decreasing for the last 2 years, and he'd help sure up the guard spot behind Tony/Manu/Hill.

rayray2k8
05-27-2010, 12:36 AM
Is Jaren Jackson still available??

itzsoweezee
05-27-2010, 12:37 AM
Morrow would be awesome. As would either Korver or Reddick. But Reddick's recent play is probably eliminating any chance the Magic let him go. Then again, Otis Smith is an idiot, so who knows.

Duncan2177
05-27-2010, 01:10 AM
Rasual Butler?

phxspurfan
05-27-2010, 01:38 AM
I said this way back...I don't even know how far.

Just some random names, won't bother to see if theyre FAs since the FO wont get any of them anyway:

Novak
Korver
Mike Miller
Belinelli
Spanish Manu
Damon Jones
Daniel Gibson

DAF86
05-27-2010, 02:44 AM
Fernandez would be nice.

Spursfanfromafar
05-27-2010, 06:03 AM
anthony parker...lol

Actually Anthony Parker would be a great backup SG. Clever, decent defender, team player and great shooter ..Shot 41% from 3 last season.

Only, he is not a FA and is in his last year of contract (2010-11) for the Cavs.

wut
05-27-2010, 06:10 AM
Morrow would be my pick if we could get him.

hater
05-27-2010, 09:42 AM
Is Fernandez a possibility?? probably not as Euro teams are offering tons of $

but if somehow Pop and Co could convince him to come to Spurs.

Imagine: Splitter + Fernandez coming in

:wow :wow

BG_Spurs_Fan
05-27-2010, 09:45 AM
Is Fernandez a possibility?? probably not as Euro teams are offering tons of $

but if somehow Pop and Co could convince him to come to Spurs.

Imagine: Splitter + Fernandez coming in

:wow :wow

No way would Pritch trade him to the Spurs, he'd make them pay through the nose, say Hill + a 1st round pick for Rudy. Do you take that deal?

Mel_13
05-27-2010, 09:48 AM
Is Fernandez a possibility?? probably not as Euro teams are offering tons of $

but if somehow Pop and Co could convince him to come to Spurs.

Imagine: Splitter + Fernandez coming in

:wow :wow

He is going into the third year of his rookie contract with Portland. The only way to get Rudy is through a trade with Portland. He will only make 1.2M next season, so a trade with San Antonio is improbable.

MmP
05-27-2010, 11:37 AM
I'd so love nocioni in this team

Nathan Explosion
05-27-2010, 11:40 AM
I think getting Temple and Hairston in the gym with Chip will be huge. Temple should the ability to hit the corner 3 with surprising consistency. If he can shore that up and then extend his range to other places on the court, he should have a good run at it with his size and athleticism. Hairston needs to develop a jumpshot if he wants to be a real contributor on this team. Spots are going to open up. Hairston and Temple need to take them the way Hill did last year.

And Parker seems to have stopped improving his range once he got the midrange jumper down. If Parker could become a credible 3 pt threat again, he should be a tough, tough guard. With the extra rest this summer, he should get his legs back and with it, his speed and quickness.

Finally, Hill just needs to stay in the gym and keep working. Work on creating a 3 pt shot instead of spotting up. Hill has the tools to be a big contributor on this team in the way of a 4th option with the ability to step into the 3 if needed, on a consistent basis.

Nathan Explosion
05-27-2010, 11:41 AM
I'd so love nocioni in this team

He'd give them a lot of toughness on the perimeter and the interior from the 3 spot.

Bruno
05-27-2010, 11:42 AM
ArgScrublaFan is back :lol

dbestpro
05-27-2010, 01:02 PM
I still think Dorell Wright has the potential to provide three point scoring and athleticism and could be gotten quite easily while everyone else is looking for their Moby.

franceout
05-27-2010, 02:26 PM
I will sign tmac will lle

dbestpro
05-27-2010, 04:03 PM
Morrison could be a candidate for SF backup if he can get his shot going. Of course no one knows what he can do because he has been on the pine for over a year. Maybe the bench time has done him so good like it did Reddick.

arodz
05-27-2010, 05:09 PM
Mark it now...Raja Bell will be a Spur next season. He's a good defender and he's cheap.

Mel_13
05-27-2010, 05:13 PM
Mark it now...Raja Bell will be a Spur next season. He's a good defender and he's cheap.

He's also publicly stated that Miami is his first choice.

arodz
05-27-2010, 07:34 PM
He's also publicly stated that Miami is his first choice.


Not if he wants to win.

DPG21920
05-27-2010, 07:56 PM
Miami could easily be in a better position to win than the spurs next year.

Nathan Explosion
05-27-2010, 08:51 PM
Miami could easily be in a better position to win than the spurs next year.

They have the cap room to be. Or they could lose Dwayne Wade and not recover for a long, long time.

dbestpro
05-27-2010, 09:35 PM
I don't think an older vet like Bell is the answer. His day has come and gone. The answer lies in players who are 20 something and have not been given the chance or fell on their face when the chance was given. If last year at this time you were told you could have Frye and Dudley most would say pass. It's easy to select a guy who has come and gone. Can you find the guy who is still on his way?

tdunk21
05-27-2010, 10:00 PM
They have the cap room to be. Or they could lose Dwayne Wade and not recover for a long, long time.

if they lose wade they will be the new jersey nets of 2010-2011.....

Mel_13
05-27-2010, 10:07 PM
They have the cap room to be. Or they could lose Dwayne Wade and not recover for a long, long time.

I don't think Wade leaves, but if he does Miami will have enough cap space to sign two max FAs and still have 8-10M to fill out the roster.

RiverwalkParade
05-28-2010, 11:58 AM
I don't think an older vet like Bell is the answer. His day has come and gone. The answer lies in players who are 20 something and have not been given the chance or fell on their face when the chance was given. If last year at this time you were told you could have Frye and Dudley most would say pass. It's easy to select a guy who has come and gone. Can you find the guy who is still on his way?

Jamario Moon anyone? would take a trade to get him out of Cleveland, but maybe a S&T of Mason for Moon works.

tdunk21
05-28-2010, 12:14 PM
Jamario Moon anyone? would take a trade to get him out of Cleveland, but maybe a S&T of Mason for Moon works.

mason is better than moon....instead i would do a mason and bonner sign and trade for powe and anthony parker....

mabrignani
05-29-2010, 12:48 AM
gallinari!