"Israel's plan was to bomb Western targets, make it seem as though Egypt was behind t

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MI figures out what went wrong in Lavon affair - 55 years later Israel's plan was to bomb Western targets, make it seem as though Egypt was behind the attacks.

Fifty-five years after the notorious failure of an Israeli sabotage operation in Egypt, Military Intelligence has finally gotten around to figuring out what went wrong. The answer? Pretty much everything.

"First and foremost, this is the story of the failure of Military Intelligence, starting with the choice of targets for the network's sabotage operations, the operational planning and the superficial and sloppy training, and ending with the method of execution, which totally failed to carry out the pointless mission, which had no chance of reaching the strategic goal its operators had set: the cancellation of the planned British evacuation of the Suez Canal," stated the MI analysis.

The Lavon affair - also known locally as esek habish, "the rotten business" - was a plan to discredit Egypt's government, then headed by Gamal Abdel Nasser, by bombing theaters, post offices and U.S. and British institutions, and making it seem as though Egypt was behind the bombings. The thinking in Israel at the time was that if the British were to give up control of the Suez Canal, it would be left in Egypt's hands, putting Cairo in a better position to exert pressure on Israel.

The agents were told "to undermine the West's trust in the [Egyptian] government by causing public insecurity" while concealing Israel's role in the sabotage.-haaretz.com

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So?

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^^^Lol

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Exactly my thought.

Why did you post this?

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Why do you think? I'm guessing you are a right wing christian who wants Israel to be destroyed so the '' king of kings'' can come back and until then Israel can do no wrong?

Many people find this type of thing interesting. Our closest ally attempting false flag attacks against us.

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Why do you share this, exactly? Why are 50+ year-old covert ops failures worth remembering? What country is innocent of similar actions?

And for the record, the link is:

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/mi-figures-out-what-went-wrong-in-lavon-affair-55-years-later-1.4385

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Why do you think?I'm asking you.


I'm guessing you are a right wing christian who wants Israel to be destroyed so the '' king of kings'' can come back and until then Israel can do no wrong?You suck at guessing.


Many people find this type of thing interesting. Our closest ally attempting false flag attacks against us.Were they our closest ally 55 years ago?

[Shastafarian]

I'm guessing you are a right wing christian who wants Israel to be destroyed so the '' king of kings'' can come back and until then Israel can do no wrong?


This made me :lol

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I find it funny when Christians get defensive about Israel. They are worth talking about because it displays past incidents which could cast a light on a potential motive for other suspicious incidents which happened around that time. It's worth discussing, what other potential things could they have been responsible for where Americans died. They are admitting to this because they killed no Americans. Why are you so against discussing a country planning a false flag attack against America and killing civilians? It's kind of curious.

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I find it funny when Christians get defensive about Israel. They are worth talking about because it displays past incidents which could cast a light on a potential motive for other suspicious incidents which happened around that time. It's worth discussing, what other potential things could they have been responsible for where Americans died. They are admitting to this because they killed no Americans. Why are you so against discussing a country planning a false flag attack against America and killing civilians? It's kind of curious.I am discussing it.

You, on the other hand, are making speeches and ad hominem attacks to avoid discussion.

Why did you bring this up?

Was Israel our closest ally 55 years ago?

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I find it funny when Christians get defensive about Israel. They are worth talking about because it displays past incidents which could cast a light on a potential motive for other suspicious incidents which happened around that time. It's worth discussing, what other potential things could they have been responsible for where Americans died. They are admitting to this because they killed no Americans. Why are you so against discussing a country planning a false flag attack against America and killing civilians? It's kind of curious.

What about non-Christians that deem your attempts to incite hatred and suspicion based on shit that happened ages ago idiotic? Piss off.

[Shastafarian]

I find it funny when Christians get defensive about Israel. They are worth talking about because it displays past incidents which could cast a light on a potential motive for other suspicious incidents which happened around that time. It's worth discussing, what other potential things could they have been responsible for where Americans died. They are admitting to this because they killed no Americans. Why are you so against discussing a country planning a false flag attack against America and killing civilians? It's kind of curious.

Why not just post in the LMAO Israel thread, saying you agree that Israel attacked the USS Liberty? That's clearly what this is about.

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I am discussing it.

You, on the other hand, are making speeches and ad hominem attacks to avoid discussion.

Why did you bring this up?

Was Israel our closest ally 55 years ago?

If you read the post you quoted you would understand why I brought this up. You should save your 5 dollar words like ad hominem for another thread.

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If you read the post you quoted you would understand why I brought this up.I read the post; Are you claiming that Israel has committed more false flag operations involving US targets?
You should save your 5 dollar words like ad hominem for another thread.Do you not understand what it means?

Sorry.

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Why not just post in the LMAO Israel thread, saying you agree that Israel attacked the USS Liberty? That's clearly what this is about.

I don't know if Israel attacked the Liberty or not. But this is a seperate subject that is worth discussing. Though this does crossover to the Liberty convo as it set's a precedent of behavior.

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You should save your five cent bullshit and stick it up your ass for a rainy day, bozo. :lol

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I read the post; Are you claiming that Israel has committed more false flag operations involving US targets?Do you not understand what it means?

Sorry.

I'm claiming it's possible and worth discussing. Also, I believe you know what ad hominem means but it might be the biggest word you know so I was telling you to save it for other threads.

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I don't know if Israel attacked the Liberty or not. But this is a seperate subject that is worth discussing. Though this does crossover to the Liberty convo as it set's a precedent of behavior.

It's not a separate subject. And it only sets a precedent of behavior if you believe they attacked the Liberty on purpose.

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I'm claiming it's possible and worth discussing.So discuss it. What other false flag operations are you attributing to Israel?

Give us your evidence for each claim.


Also, I believe you know what ad hominem means but it might be the biggest word you know so I was telling you to save it for other threads.I was asking if you know what ad hominem means.

Do you know what it means?

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So discuss it. What other false flag operations are you attributing to Israel?

Give us your evidence for each claim.

I was asking if you know what ad hominem means.

Do you know what it means?

I'm not making any claims. I was here to incite discussion. Maybe learn a thing or two. Isn't that the point of a forum besides posting pics of hot chics?


Of course, an ad hominem is trying to discredit some ones argument by attacking a personal characteristic of them.

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I'm not making any claims. I was here to incite discussion. Maybe learn a thing or two. Isn't that the point of a forum besides posting pics of hot chics?Incite what discussion? What do you want to discuss?



Of course, an ad hominem is trying to discredit some ones argument by attacking a personal characteristic of them.You certainly had enough time to look it up.

See? You leaned something.

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Incite what discussion? What do you want to discuss?


You certainly had enough time to look it up.

See? You leaned something.

Other questionable incidents? What's your problem man?

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Other questionable incidents?Like what?


What's your problem man?Your refusal to discuss once you initiated a discussion.

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Like what?

Your refusal to discuss once you initiated a discussion.


I've already conceded I don't know of any other. If anyone else has any other questionable incidents they can discuss them here and then I will learn about them. Do you not understand this? Does someone taking a critical approach to Israel bother you that much? I'll just tell you though that the '' king of kings'' prolly isn't coming back man. Sorry.

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I'll just tell you though that the '' king of kings'' prolly isn't coming back man. Sorry.

:lol

I wonder how long before this guy figures it out.

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I've already conceded I don't know of any other. If anyone else has any other questionable incidents they can discuss them here and then I will learn about them.Ah, the "just asking questions" ruse.


Do you not understand this?I understand perfectly what you are attempting.


Does someone taking a critical approach to Israel bother you that much?What is your critical approach? Post a 55 year old false flag attack and pray someone jumps in with another one?


I'll just tell you though that the '' king of kings'' prolly isn't coming back man. Sorry.What does that have to do with the discussion of false flag attacks on the US by Israel?

Why don't you tell us all the root of your desire to discuss Israeli false flag attacks?

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Ah, the "just asking questions" ruse.

I understand perfectly what you are attempting.

What is your critical approach? Post a 55 year old false flag attack and pray someone jumps in with another one?

What does that have to do with the discussion of false flag attacks on the US by Israel?

Why don't you tell us all the root of your desire to discuss Israeli false flag attacks?

A ruse? Do you think this is some crazy plan to attack your precious Israel? This is funny.

The answer to your second question is I was hoping for multiple incidents. False Flag attempts are interesting.

I do want to discuss Israeli false flag attacks. Like I said above they are interesting stories. Is that good Zionist?

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A ruse? Do you think this is some crazy plan to attack your precious Israel? This is funny.No, the "just asking questions" ruse usually is a lame attempt to hide the poster's agenda.


The answer to your second question is I was hoping for multiple incidents. False Flag attempts are interesting.I just said you were praying someone could come up with another -- even though you already have knowledge of the USS Liberty incident that the claims surrounding it.


I do want to discuss Israeli false flag attacks. Like I said above they are interesting stories.You are hoping there are more. That is far from "just asking questions."


Is that good Zionist?If you know what an ad hominem is, why do you continue to resort to them?

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If you know what an ad hominem is, why do you continue to resort to them?

And why does he couch his ad hominems in antisemitic vocabulary when he's "just asking questions" about irrelevant ancient history. Hmmmm.

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No, the "just asking questions" ruse usually is a lame attempt to hide the poster's agenda.

I just said you were praying someone could come up with another -- even though you already have knowledge of the USS Liberty incident that the claims surrounding it.

You are hoping there are more. That is far from "just asking questions."

If you know what an ad hominem is, why do you continue to resort to them?

Ha agenda? I love the language zionists use to describe attackers of Israel.


Ha praying? I don't pray. I don't believe in god. Hoping for some cool false flag stories, you bet.

Because I think Zionists should have to wear a big Z on their chest like the scarlet letter.

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Ha agenda? I love the language zionists use to describe attackers of Israel.I love the language you use to betray your agenda.


Ha praying? I don't pray. I don't believe in god. Hoping for some cool false flag stories, you bet.Hoping. Why are you hoping for more?


Because I think Zionists should have to wear a big Z on their chest like the scarlet letter.Why do you think that?

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I love the language you use to betray your agenda.

Hoping. Why are you hoping for more?

Why do you think that?

Its well apparent what your '' agenda'' is zionist.


Because they are cool and interesting.


Because people should be warned about you.

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Its well apparent what your '' agenda'' is zionist.


Because they are cool and interesting.


Because people should be warned about you.

:lol who is this clown?

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Its well apparent what your '' agenda'' is zionist.And what evidence do you have of that? Please be specific.


Because they are cool and interesting.If you think they are all cool and interesting, why limit yourself to Israeli operations?


Because people should be warned about you.What is your warning to "people" about me?

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What is your warning to "people" about me?

Sie sind ein Zionist!!!

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And what evidence do you have of that? Please be specific.

If you think they are all cool and interesting, why limit yourself to Israeli operations?

What is your warning to "people" about me?

Your incessant questioning on why I made this thread and what my motives are. No non zionist christian would give this much of a shit.

Because anything involving Israel and false flags is so much cooler. Not that I have to give you any reason why I made the thread. But Israel's secrecy over their nuclear program to their close relationship with our govt and intelligence communities make them so much more interesting then most.

Because crazy people like you should be always identified at least 100 yards ahead.

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Your incessant questioning on why I made this thread and what my motives are. No non zionist christian would give this much of a shit.I'm just asking questions. If you are unable or afraid to answer, just say so.


Because anything involving Israel and false flags is so much cooler. Not that I have to give you any reason why I made the thread. But Israel's secrecy over their nuclear program to their close relationship with our govt and intelligence communities make them so much more interesting then most.Were they that close 55 years ago?


Because crazy people like you should be always identified at least 100 yards ahead.What causes you to use another ad hominem calling me crazy?

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So bringing up some old fuck-up by Mossad out of nowhere shouldn't be assumed to be agenda-driven?

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I'm just asking questions. If you are unable or afraid to answer, just say so.

Were they that close 55 years ago?

What causes you to use another ad hominem calling me crazy?

I just told you why. I've encountered crazy Christian people like you on other forums. Most try to take this pretentious measured curious approach in their questioning. Then you poke them a little and they freak out. What is the reason for all of your questioning?


I dunno if they were that close 55 years ago. You are the Zionist , you tell me? I know we were allies. Were we as close as were today, I dunno.

Because Zionist Christian Troll's such as yourself are crazy.

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I just told you why. I've encountered crazy Christian people like you on other forums. Most try to take this pretentious measured curious approach in their questioning. Then you poke them a little and they freak out. What is the reason for all of your questioning? To expose your agenda. Mission accomplished.


I dunno if they were that close 55 years ago. You are the Zionist , you tell me? I know we were allies. Were we as close as were today, I dunno.How do you know they were allies 55 years ago?


Because Zionist Christian Troll's such as yourself are crazy.What evidence do you have that I am a Zionist Christian? What declarations have I made to support that ad hominem attack?

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Because Zionist Christian Troll's such as yourself are crazy.

:lol

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To expose your agenda. Mission accomplished.

How do you know they were allies 55 years ago?

What evidence do you have that I am a Zionist Christian? What declarations have I made to support that ad hominem attack?

Ha, the crazy rhetoric is starting to come out. We are almost there.


Because we've been allies with them since they were formed. Ha, where are these questions coming from Zionist? When are we going to get to the point when you start talking about the lake of fire?

Declarations? The only thing you've declared in this thread is you are very resistant to people talking about this subject and are insanely suspicious of someone questioning Israel. This isn't my first day on the internet. I can spot a zionist psycho miles away.

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Ha, the crazy rhetoric is starting to come out. We are almost there.You're already there.



Because we've been allies with them since they were formed.What evidence do you have of this?


Ha, where are these questions coming from Zionist?From me.


When are we going to get to the point when you start talking about the lake of fire?If you are waiting for me to do that, you will be waiting a very long time.


Declarations? The only thing you've declared in this thread is you are very resistant to people talking about this subject and are insanely suspicious of someone questioning Israel.Could you give examples of your claims? Please use direct quotes of mine and link them. Thanks.


This isn't my first day on the internet. I can spot a zionist psycho miles away.Are you sure?

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damn... good thread OP.

People have always suspected Israel is behind a lot of shit.

who knows what else they have done? It's in their interest to have us fighting a war in the middle east...