View Full Version : Splitter was huge today
jiggy_55
05-30-2010, 07:51 AM
Splitter posted 23 points and 10 rebounds today as Caja Laboral kicked out Real Madrid in OT.
EDIT: They did not kick out Real Madrid when this was posted, it was an error. Caja Laboral have just kicked out Real Madrid in Game 5 to advance to the the finals. Splitter had a GREAT series.
mogrovejo
05-30-2010, 09:39 AM
He's playing out of his mind. What a beast. Best player in Europe right now.
http://acb360.orange.es/diferidos/LACB/54/322
Kafka
05-30-2010, 09:49 AM
He is just amazing.
Muser
05-30-2010, 09:50 AM
Nice to see him beasting, still not getting excited though.
JonNOKC
05-30-2010, 10:06 AM
the driving layup at the 6:00 mark of 1st is sick - good feel for pick and roll offense will help him be able to make immediate contribution offesively (much like Blair)of course he also has some nice post up moves as well - definitely liked what I saw as this was first time to watch a whole game vs highlight reel - will need to improve on making sure he boxes out guy - sometimes he fails to get body on opponent (usually still able to get most rebounds but too many big time leapers in NBA) and defensive rotations especially in transition defense (sometimes went to defend or double guy 15ft out leaving basket open for trailer/cutter - overall definitely more NBA ready than any big in upcoming draft and more athletic than I thought (think P. Gasol kinds sneaky athletic) as opposed to a Amare, etc.
Thanks for posting link!
Man In Black
05-30-2010, 10:07 AM
Box Score anyone?
Mel_13
05-30-2010, 10:11 AM
Box Score anyone?
http://www.acb.com/fichas/LACB54322.php
You can watch the entire game at the link provided in post #3.
ElNono
05-30-2010, 11:50 AM
- Prigioni was Caja Laboral's MVP (yes, I know he plays for Real Madrid: exactly)
- Teletović impressed. Can we get that guy?
- What I liked the most about Splitter is that they didn't look too much for him and he was still able to impact the game. The downside is that I can see that softie hook swatted to the second row in the NBA more times than not.
- Teletović impressed. Can we get that guy?
As I remember he has something like 2 years left, but not sure this.
BronxCowboy
05-30-2010, 12:12 PM
He is just amazing.
That's what she said.
Bruno
05-30-2010, 12:19 PM
Teletovic recently said that he wants to play in the NBA but he is still under contract and hasn't a buyout. Caja Laboral then said that they weren't interested in letting him go. He could be a decent role player in the NBA as a "stretch 4".
Vito Corleone
05-30-2010, 12:27 PM
As much as I would like to get excited about him, right now the odds are very much stacked against us that we sign him. I would give us about a 25% chance of ever seeing him in a Spurs uniform.
As of right now I say it's 50/50 he resigns in europe, and about a 25% chance he forces us to trade his rights to a city he would rather play in like LA, NY, Chicago, or even Houston.
I've heard nothing that would convince me he is going to be a Spur.
mogrovejo
05-30-2010, 12:33 PM
As much as I would like to get excited about him, right now the odds are very much stacked against us that we sign him. I would give us about a 25% chance of ever seeing him in a Spurs uniform.
As of right now I say it's 50/50 he resigns in europe, and about a 25% chance he forces us to trade his rights to a city he would rather play in like LA, NY, Chicago, or even Houston.
I've heard nothing that would convince me he is going to be a Spur.
Why?
I've been saying since last Summer there's a 99.9% chance he signs with a NBA team.
Splitter is like the rest of us, he wants to make money.
Vito Corleone
05-30-2010, 12:41 PM
If what I've heard is correct, Madrid is prepared to offer him a lot more than the MLE, which is the Max the Spurs can pay him. Thus, he might want to come to the NBA but also make more than 6 million per year, which means a trade to another franchise that can afford him.
There might be a 99.9% chance he signs with a NBA team but by my estimation the only reason the spurs are even in contention is the fact that they own his rights. So eliminating him resigning with his Euro team, that still a 50/50 chance he signs with someone else other than San Antonio.
mogrovejo
05-30-2010, 01:19 PM
If what I've heard is correct, Madrid is prepared to offer him a lot more than the MLE, which is the Max the Spurs can pay him. Thus, he might want to come to the NBA but also make more than 6 million per year, which means a trade to another franchise that can afford him.
There might be a 99.9% chance he signs with a NBA team but by my estimation the only reason the spurs are even in contention is the fact that they own his rights. So eliminating him resigning with his Euro team, that still a 50/50 chance he signs with someone else other than San Antonio.
Where have you heard that? I can see Real offering him an offer equivalent to the MLE or a bit above, but a lot more? That's fantasy.
Anyway, as I've repeatedly said, it's not about the contract he signs this Summer. Solid bigs like Splitter make a lot of money in the NBA, a lot more than any player can do in Europe. It's about the potential for future earnings. If needed, Splitter will sacrifice a couple of millions now to reap the benefits later on - like Scola or Marc Gasol did.
ElNono
05-30-2010, 01:26 PM
Teletovic recently said that he wants to play in the NBA but he is still under contract and hasn't a buyout. Caja Laboral then said that they weren't interested in letting him go. He could be a decent role player in the NBA as a "stretch 4".
I think he's quick enough to play as a tall wing too. I like that he's not afraid to shoot (even though that can come through as being a chucker), he knows how to put the ball on the floor too if needed, and he's got hustle and fairly good defense. Agree that he would make a decent NBA role player.
Avitus1
05-30-2010, 01:27 PM
I don't care until he is in silver and black.
angelbelow
05-30-2010, 01:44 PM
Where have you heard that? I can see Real offering him an offer equivalent to the MLE or a bit above, but a lot more? That's fantasy.
Anyway, as I've repeatedly said, it's not about the contract he signs this Summer. Solid bigs like Splitter make a lot of money in the NBA, a lot more than any player can do in Europe. It's about the potential for future earnings. If needed, Splitter will sacrifice a couple of millions now to reap the benefits later on - like Scola or Marc Gasol did.
Agreed
Vito Corleone
05-30-2010, 01:50 PM
Where have you heard that? I can see Real offering him an offer equivalent to the MLE or a bit above, but a lot more? That's fantasy.
Anyway, as I've repeatedly said, it's not about the contract he signs this Summer. Solid bigs like Splitter make a lot of money in the NBA, a lot more than any player can do in Europe. It's about the potential for future earnings. If needed, Splitter will sacrifice a couple of millions now to reap the benefits later on - like Scola or Marc Gasol did.
I've heard numbers being thrown around like 8 to 10 million Euros. There is no way we could come close to that amount. Heck lets say he is only offered 6 million Euros. That still equals as of today 7.8 million dollars. To match our offer of 5 million per year MLE, all Madrid needs to offer is 4,065,000 in Euros. I'm pretty sure they can beat us easily.
Muser
05-30-2010, 01:53 PM
I don't care until he is in silver and black.
Bingo.
TimDunkem
05-30-2010, 02:06 PM
I don't care until he is in silver and black.
We might as well close the think tank section and not allow anyone to disscuss FA signings in this section as well. You know, since none of this matters because none of these guys have a Spurs jersey on yet.
Thompson
05-30-2010, 02:12 PM
To match our offer of 5 million per year MLE, all Madrid needs to offer is 4,065,000 in Euros. I'm pretty sure they can beat us easily.
Short-term maybe, but if he wants to make more money long-term he'd be better off in the NBA.
mogrovejo
05-30-2010, 02:43 PM
I've heard numbers being thrown around like 8 to 10 million Euros. There is no way we could come close to that amount. Heck lets say he is only offered 6 million Euros. That still equals as of today 7.8 million dollars. To match our offer of 5 million per year MLE, all Madrid needs to offer is 4,065,000 in Euros. I'm pretty sure they can beat us easily.
I won't keep explaining the future earnings potential to you, but again, where have you heard those numbers? 10 million euros? Splitter isn't a footballer.
mogrovejo
05-30-2010, 02:45 PM
I think he's quick enough to play as a tall wing too.
Completely disagree.
I like that he's not afraid to shoot (even though that can come through as being a chucker), he knows how to put the ball on the floor too if needed, and he's got hustle and fairly good defense. Agree that he would make a decent NBA role player.
He is a chucker. Horrible shot selection, can be extremely streaky. He's also a poor defender + rebounder.
Buddy Holly
05-30-2010, 04:39 PM
I've heard numbers being thrown around like 8 to 10 million Euros. There is no way we could come close to that amount. Heck lets say he is only offered 6 million Euros. That still equals as of today 7.8 million dollars. To match our offer of 5 million per year MLE, all Madrid needs to offer is 4,065,000 in Euros. I'm pretty sure they can beat us easily.
So you're basing everything off hearsay? :lol
ElNono
05-30-2010, 05:32 PM
Completely disagree.
He is a chucker. Horrible shot selection, can be extremely streaky. He's also a poor defender + rebounder.
I'll take your word for it. I haven't seen him play enough. That was just my impressions from that game, where he played pretty well... probably the exception.
I've heard numbers being thrown around like 8 to 10 million Euros. There is no way we could come close to that amount. Heck lets say he is only offered 6 million Euros. That still equals as of today 7.8 million dollars. To match our offer of 5 million per year MLE, all Madrid needs to offer is 4,065,000 in Euros. I'm pretty sure they can beat us easily.
1. Spurs can offer him something like 9 mln $/2 yrs. Then , when he is adapted to NBA, 27 years old, he can sign a new contract on new salary rules. Something like 5 years long. Then another one, probably his last.
2. He just earned 5 mln euros this years. Earlier he was earning something like 1 mln euro / year.
3. It`s NBA. He said he wanted to play in NBA. That`s why he has got 0 $ buyout clause in his contract
4. He`s not native european. He isn`t glued to Europe.
5. This are Spurs. He will get his minutes. He will play for title, not in lottery team. He will earn from Pop, TD, Dice, maybe DRob. Very nice place to develop.
6. Real won`t offer him 8-10 mln euro. This are salaries for Kaka, Cristiano Ronaldo.
EricB
05-30-2010, 05:54 PM
Vito Do u comprehend things like the crashing euro and uh spain's economy crashing like a rock?
DynastySpurs210
05-30-2010, 06:00 PM
uh how much is this guy worth?
Mel_13
05-30-2010, 06:24 PM
uh how much is this guy worth?
The more appropriate question is "how much will it take?"
mingus
05-30-2010, 06:25 PM
Splitter will realize just how "huge" he is when he meets George Hill.
Chomag
05-30-2010, 07:02 PM
Can we send Jefferson over there in place of Splitter? That would be 15 mil for Splitter to come here right there. :lol
I know, but one can have wishes.
BronxCowboy
05-30-2010, 07:03 PM
:lol ^^
BronxCowboy
05-30-2010, 07:04 PM
Splitter will realize just how "huge" he is when he meets George Hill.
Somebody take away his camera phone.
jason1301
05-30-2010, 09:05 PM
There was NEVER any doubt that Splitter can play!
My concern is hitting the rookie wall, and being able to take the wear and tear of an NBA season. He is not that athletic, plus he always had injuries.
TheSpursFNRule
05-30-2010, 10:04 PM
Am I the only who doesn't think Tiago looks very good?
ElNono
05-30-2010, 10:08 PM
Am I the only who doesn't think Tiago looks very good?
Depends on your expectations. If you expect him to be the next Tim Duncan, then you're going to be sorely disappointed. If you think he's an upgrade over Bonner, then you'll probably end up fairly happy.
slick'81
05-30-2010, 10:48 PM
if hes anything better than rasho nesterovic ill be ecstatic
45 bank shot
05-31-2010, 12:30 AM
Real Madrid targeting Splitter (http://projectspurs.com/2010-articles/may/real-madrid-targeting-splitter.html) http://projectspurs.com/templates/rt_chromatophore/images/printButton.png (http://projectspurs.com/2010-articles/may/real-madrid-targeting-splitter/print.html) http://projectspurs.com/templates/rt_chromatophore/images/emailButton.png (http://projectspurs.com/component/option,com_mailto/link,aHR0cDovL3Byb2plY3RzcHVycy5jb20vMjAxMC1hcnRpY 2xlcy9tYXkvcmVhbC1tYWRyaWQtdGFyZ2V0aW5nLXNwbGl0dGV yLmh0bWw=/tmpl,component/) Written by Jeff Garcia Saturday, 29 May 2010 18:41 Rumor has it that Real Madrid is willing to dish out some serious money to acquire Tiago Splitter and other players to remain competitive.
According to talkbasket.net (http://www.talkbasket.net/blogs/real-madrid-is-preparing-a-big-summer-3043.html), Real Madrid is targeting Splitter among several other players.
The main targets of the club this summer are:
Sergio Rodriguez, Vassilis Spanoulis, Milos Teodosic, Alan Anderson, Mike Batiste, and Tiago Splitter. The club is particularly interested in Vassilis Spanoulis and Tiago Splitter.
The club is said to be willing to spend up to 8-10 million euros net on each player in order to secure both Spanoulis and Splitter, because the club believes this would allow them to win the ACB and Euroleague championships next season.
Now there is no official statement from Real Madrid so take it for what it's worth.
However, if true, then this could present a problem for the San Antonio Spurs in convincing Splitter to play for the team next season for the mid-level exception and pass up a pay-day from Real Madrid.
Vito Corleone
05-31-2010, 12:42 AM
So you're basing everything off hearsay? :lol
No, I'm just going to look at the numbers and say I won't get excited about a guy we likely won't ever see in a Spurs uniform. No matter if it's fact or fiction, the numbers aren't in our favor. Knock yourself out if you want to believe he is going to be a Spur next year, I hope your right, but I sure ain't going to hold my breath waiting for it to happen.
Vito Corleone
05-31-2010, 12:48 AM
Vito Do u comprehend things like the crashing euro and uh spain's economy crashing like a rock?
Yes, and I also comprehend the fact that Real just got a bailout by the Spanish government. As far as they are concerned, their playing with house money.
Real Madrid targeting Splitter (http://projectspurs.com/2010-articles/may/real-madrid-targeting-splitter.html) http://projectspurs.com/templates/rt_chromatophore/images/printButton.png (http://projectspurs.com/2010-articles/may/real-madrid-targeting-splitter/print.html) http://projectspurs.com/templates/rt_chromatophore/images/emailButton.png (http://projectspurs.com/component/option,com_mailto/link,aHR0cDovL3Byb2plY3RzcHVycy5jb20vMjAxMC1hcnRpY 2xlcy9tYXkvcmVhbC1tYWRyaWQtdGFyZ2V0aW5nLXNwbGl0dGV yLmh0bWw=/tmpl,component/) Written by Jeff Garcia Saturday, 29 May 2010 18:41 Rumor has it that Real Madrid is willing to dish out some serious money to acquire Tiago Splitter and other players to remain competitive.
According to talkbasket.net (http://www.talkbasket.net/blogs/real-madrid-is-preparing-a-big-summer-3043.html), Real Madrid is targeting Splitter among several other players.
The main targets of the club this summer are:
Sergio Rodriguez, Vassilis Spanoulis, Milos Teodosic, Alan Anderson, Mike Batiste, and Tiago Splitter. The club is particularly interested in Vassilis Spanoulis and Tiago Splitter.
The club is said to be willing to spend up to 8-10 million euros net on each player in order to secure both Spanoulis and Splitter, because the club believes this would allow them to win the ACB and Euroleague championships next season.
Now there is no official statement from Real Madrid so take it for what it's worth.
However, if true, then this could present a problem for the San Antonio Spurs in convincing Splitter to play for the team next season for the mid-level exception and pass up a pay-day from Real Madrid.
Thanks for posting, sucks because I'm still not very happy to read it but at lease it shows I'm not crazy.
jiggy_55
05-31-2010, 02:17 AM
Btw, seems I was wrong. It's a best of 5 series, meaning there is still 1 game at least. They didn't eliminate Real Madrid as I had thought they did and said in my opening post.
Buddy Holly
05-31-2010, 03:04 AM
No, I'm just going to look at the numbers and say I won't get excited about a guy we likely won't ever see in a Spurs uniform.
Based on what? Numbers you either made up yourself or someone made up themselves that you take at face value. :lol
No matter if it's fact or fiction, the numbers aren't in our favor.
What numbers? There are no numbers that define anything yet except on the Spurs side which is the MLE.
Knock yourself out if you want to believe he is going to be a Spur next year, I hope your right, but I sure ain't going to hold my breath waiting for it to happen.
The only way he isn't a Spurs player next year is if they trade his rights.
ChumpDumper
05-31-2010, 04:19 AM
lol talkbasket.net
marc gasol and luis scola translated very well to the NBA. splitter is a similar player so the hope is that he his rebounding and defense carries over to the NBA. if splitter comes over, i just hope that the spurs have patient and let him develop rather than make him into a one trick pony jump shooter. if splitter can score on the post, it would alleviate duncan's responsibility.
mountainballer
05-31-2010, 05:04 AM
Real Madrid targeting Splitter (http://projectspurs.com/2010-articles/may/real-madrid-targeting-splitter.html) http://projectspurs.com/templates/rt_chromatophore/images/printButton.png (http://projectspurs.com/2010-articles/may/real-madrid-targeting-splitter/print.html) http://projectspurs.com/templates/rt_chromatophore/images/emailButton.png (http://projectspurs.com/component/option,com_mailto/link,aHR0cDovL3Byb2plY3RzcHVycy5jb20vMjAxMC1hcnRpY 2xlcy9tYXkvcmVhbC1tYWRyaWQtdGFyZ2V0aW5nLXNwbGl0dGV yLmh0bWw=/tmpl,component/) Written by Jeff Garcia Saturday, 29 May 2010 18:41 Rumor has it that Real Madrid is willing to dish out some serious money to acquire Tiago Splitter and other players to remain competitive.
According to talkbasket.net (http://www.talkbasket.net/blogs/real-madrid-is-preparing-a-big-summer-3043.html), Real Madrid is targeting Splitter among several other players.
The main targets of the club this summer are:
Sergio Rodriguez, Vassilis Spanoulis, Milos Teodosic, Alan Anderson, Mike Batiste, and Tiago Splitter. The club is particularly interested in Vassilis Spanoulis and Tiago Splitter.
The club is said to be willing to spend up to 8-10 million euros net on each player in order to secure both Spanoulis and Splitter, because the club believes this would allow them to win the ACB and Euroleague championships next season.
Now there is no official statement from Real Madrid so take it for what it's worth.
However, if true, then this could present a problem for the San Antonio Spurs in convincing Splitter to play for the team next season for the mid-level exception and pass up a pay-day from Real Madrid.
talkbasket= permanent BS alarm!!!
but aside from this assumption, the article above doesn't tell for what number of years the mentioned offers would be.
two days ago the same page reported this:
Vassilis Spanoulis might not be staying in Panathinaikos next season. According to various reports, the Greek guard's priority is to go back to the NBA next season. In case that plan doesn't go the way he hopes, Spanoulis has another option which is to move to Spain to join Real Madrid.
Sport.gr reports that Real Madrid are prepared to offer two-year contract to Spanoulis which is worth €3 million a year. It is also reported that the Spanish giants are looking at the possibility to sign Milos Teodosic of Olympiacos who named the Euroleague MVP this season.
In spite of which route Spanoulis chooses it is expected that several teams in Europe will be prepared to offer him a contract. The possibility that Olympiacos would be among those teams interesting in landing Greek international is also realistic.
first off, talkbasket is kind of a blog and it's pretty easy to place false reports there.
2nd: I guess Bruno mentioned that talkbasket has become a field of activity for KBP. so forget about any accuracy of reported numbers.
3rd: whenever sport.gr is named as a source....BS alarm double volume!
Kafka
05-31-2010, 03:16 PM
I guarantee you Splitter si not going to play in Madrid. He will be a Spur or he will keep playing in Vitoria, and I'm 99% sure that he will play in NBA next season.
mogrovejo
05-31-2010, 03:18 PM
I'll take your word for it. I haven't seen him play enough. That was just my impressions from that game, where he played pretty well... probably the exception.
Don't get me wrong, he's a good player and could be an useful contributor off the bench for some NBA teams in a very limited role.
But he's a 6'10'' Eddie House - subpar defender+rebounder for his position, extremely one-dimensional offensively as an excellent and very self-confident albeit streaky (can get hot and go for 6/8 or cold an go for 1/8) outside shooter. He's going to put up 3 pointers even if he's missed the previous 10 and regardless of how good/bad/contested the shot is.
mogrovejo
05-31-2010, 03:27 PM
Ahaha, KBP trolling the shit out of people. This modus operandi of him can be pretty successful due to the lack of a true news coverage of the European basketball scene, meaning blogs and sites like sport24.gr just keep copying stuff from one another. I still remember when Danny Ferry purposedly met in person with Dynamo Moscow's coach David Blatt because of something KBP planted the same way.
No team in Europe pays 10 millions euros net to a basketball player. Only a handful of European teams have a bigger budget (including not only payroll but everything else) than that. I expect Real to throw between a quarter and a third of that at Splitter.
Blackjack
05-31-2010, 03:38 PM
People keep sleepin' on K_B_P thinkin' he's just some village idiot.
But in reality?
http://sparksfromthewheel.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/usual_suspects_keyser_soze_small1.jpg
In honor of Jose Lima: Believe it! :downspin:
ElNono
05-31-2010, 03:53 PM
But he's a 6'10'' Eddie House - subpar defender+rebounder for his position, extremely one-dimensional offensively as an excellent and very self-confident albeit streaky (can get hot and go for 6/8 or cold an go for 1/8) outside shooter. He's going to put up 3 pointers even if he's missed the previous 10 and regardless of how good/bad/contested the shot is.
You just described a 'better' Roger Mason/Bonner. Maybe that's why he looked good to me. I miss those guys that would just fucking shoot, completely unconscious. A guy like Stephen Jackson (warning, I'm not comparing Teletovic with him). Instead we have had the same subpar defender and rebounders, that also passed up shots because of their confidence being down.
Cant_Be_Faded
05-31-2010, 04:56 PM
Jesus tittyfucking christ, this guy is going to suck so much ass. Stop getting your hopes up people.
TIMMYD!
05-31-2010, 05:00 PM
Jesus tittyfucking christ, this guy is going to suck so much ass. Stop getting your hopes up people.
I saw that you had been the last poster, and I knew this was what you were going to say.
LOL@MavsFan
05-31-2010, 05:03 PM
Go Spurs Go
Agloco
05-31-2010, 05:25 PM
You wont see big numbers from him as Blair and Dice will eat into his time but per 48mins I can see 19ppg, 11rpg and 2.5bpg
I call 12/7/1.2 in 25 mins. If he's an intelligent player, he will do very well pretty quickly.
I still think the Spurs need a another solid defensive big in the mix.
TD 21
05-31-2010, 06:51 PM
This has become a polarizing topic. Either people are steadfast in their belief that it's an inevitability that Splitter will be a Spur next season or they're steadfast in their belief that Splitter won't be a Spur next season; there doesn't seem to be a middle ground.
The only thing that's certain is that with each passing day we get closer to finding out the answer to this much discussed question. That and the likelihood that the Spurs chance at winning another championship in the Duncan era is hanging in the balance with this long anticipated/awaited decision.
Flux451
05-31-2010, 07:56 PM
All Spurs need are deadeyes that don't lack steel pulse confidence and know how to play their, and are aloud to play that role.
Vito Corleone
05-31-2010, 10:55 PM
This has become a polarizing topic. Either people are steadfast in their belief that it's an inevitability that Splitter will be a Spur next season or they're steadfast in their belief that Splitter won't be a Spur next season; there doesn't seem to be a middle ground.
The only thing that's certain is that with each passing day we get closer to finding out the answer to this much discussed question. That and the likelihood that the Spurs chance at winning another championship in the Duncan era is hanging in the balance with this long anticipated/awaited decision.
It's all about the draft, I'm pretty sure if we see the Spurs go after a big then that is probably an indication that there is almost zero chance of us getting Splitter.
If we trade Splitter it is likely because he either chose to not sign with us or he is asking more than we can offer and this is our way of getting some value for him.
The numbers I gave are pretty legit. right now the Euro is 1 for every 1.22 dollars. We can offer some where around 5 mil a year with the MLE and all Madrid needs to offer to match is around 4 mil. That means anything north of 4 mil Euros is basically out bidding us.
Mel_13
05-31-2010, 11:09 PM
It's all about the draft, I'm pretty sure if we see the Spurs go after a big then that is probably an indication that there is almost zero chance of us getting Splitter.
If we trade Splitter it is likely because he either chose to not sign with us or he is asking more than we can offer and this is our way of getting some value for him.
The numbers I gave are pretty legit. right now the Euro is 1 for every 1.22 dollars. We can offer some where around 5 mil a year with the MLE and all Madrid needs to offer to match is around 4 mil. That means anything north of 4 mil Euros is basically out bidding us.
We should have a clear indication of Splitter's intentions before the draft.
A 4yr/MLE deal comes in at around 26M, Madrid isn't likely to match or exceed that. Plus, the greatest possible future earnings are to be had in the NBA. If Splitter gets that 4yr MLE with a player option for the 4th year, he can opt out at age 28 and be a free agent eligible for any contract up to the maximum. Splitter stayed in Europe in 2008 because he was able to earn several times more than the rookie scale. Such a major disparity won't exist this time.
If Splitter has any intention of ever coming to the NBA, 2010 will be the year.
Danny.Zhu
06-01-2010, 08:29 AM
After seeing this, I will be even more depressed if we don't get this guy eventually.
mountainballer
06-01-2010, 08:58 AM
It's all about the draft, I'm pretty sure if we see the Spurs go after a big then that is probably an indication that there is almost zero chance of us getting Splitter.
ah yes. and why? because no team ever has had 5 bigs on the roster? because no team ever thinks about the season after the next (when Dice will be gone) or even 2 seasons ahead (when Dice and probably also Tim will be gone). IF Spurs draft a big, the only "zero chance" indication will be about a possible re signing of Ian.
If we trade Splitter it is likely because he either chose to not sign with us or he is asking more than we can offer and this is our way of getting some value for him.
if he asks for more than we can offer (which is the MLE), there also won't be a market for him to trade him to. no NBA team will be willing to go over MLE.
The numbers I gave are pretty legit. right now the Euro is 1 for every 1.22 dollars. We can offer some where around 5 mil a year with the MLE and all Madrid needs to offer to match is around 4 mil. That means anything north of 4 mil Euros is basically out bidding us.
the numbers you gave are not legit. as I and some others tried to point out, your source is unreliable and using a trash source twice doesn't make it better. Real won't trow 4+ Million Euro per on a player, much less 8-10 million.
rascal
06-01-2010, 11:36 AM
It's all about the draft, I'm pretty sure if we see the Spurs go after a big then that is probably an indication that there is almost zero chance of us getting Splitter.
If we trade Splitter it is likely because he either chose to not sign with us or he is asking more than we can offer and this is our way of getting some value for him.
The numbers I gave are pretty legit. right now the Euro is 1 for every 1.22 dollars. We can offer some where around 5 mil a year with the MLE and all Madrid needs to offer to match is around 4 mil. That means anything north of 4 mil Euros is basically out bidding us.
Why is that? If a big that the spurs like falls to 20 they will likely take him. Adding another big along with Splitter won't be a bad thing.
The spurs need more size and depth on the frontline.
hater
06-01-2010, 11:58 AM
he MIGHT come in 2015
urunobili
06-01-2010, 12:04 PM
so is Pop somewhat guilty for not guaranteeing playing time for the kid when they drafted him? IIRC that was one of the reasons he hasn't came so far... :wakeup
Mel_13
06-01-2010, 12:12 PM
so is Pop somewhat guilty for not guaranteeing playing time for the kid when they drafted him? IIRC that was one of the reasons he hasn't came so far... :wakeup
I think you meant....:stirpot:
superbigtime
06-01-2010, 04:05 PM
Even if the situation is even money, why on Earth would a 25 year old Splitter NOT want to continue to play in the system where he is kicking ass, playing in Italy and Spain with hot European women everywhere in front of rowdy chanting packed stadiums and INSTEAD come to dusty south Texas to play for a crusty old "coach" with for the most part over-the-hill teammates playing in front of fat slobs on their cell phones until the 4th quarter? Because the Euro is a little weak right now? Hmm I wonder. He's not coming. He's the next Javtokas.
elgato21
06-02-2010, 07:03 AM
Maybe because he wants to play in the league...prove himself...
I guess
admiralsnackbar
06-02-2010, 08:07 AM
Even if the situation is even money, why on Earth would a 25 year old Splitter NOT want to continue to play in the system where he is kicking ass, playing in Italy and Spain with hot European women everywhere in front of rowdy chanting packed stadiums and INSTEAD come to dusty south Texas to play for a crusty old "coach" with for the most part over-the-hill teammates playing in front of fat slobs on their cell phones until the 4th quarter? Because the Euro is a little weak right now? Hmm I wonder. He's not coming. He's the next Javtokas.
The point people with knowledge of Euro contracts are making is that the situation will almost certainly never come close to even money. The Euro may be "a little weak right now," but it's going to be much weaker when Spain eats a dick in the next few months, and money -- not Spanish fan-boys -- is what players play for (not to mention there are way more Brazilians in the US/Americas to market to with his endorsement than there are in Spain.)
Finally... at Splitter's predicted level of earning, there will never be any shortage of hotter-than-hot chicks available.
ace3g
06-02-2010, 02:05 PM
Splitter just missed 3 straight FTs
35-34 Real Madrid 1:40 in the 2nd quarter
yavozerb
06-02-2010, 02:09 PM
Splitter just missed 3 straight FTs
35-34 Real Madrid 1:40 in the 2nd quarter
:toast..
ace3g
06-02-2010, 02:19 PM
Splitter did however end the half with a basket to put Caja up 1
38-37 Caja
admiralsnackbar
06-02-2010, 02:22 PM
Splitter just missed 3 straight FTs
{insert requisite "he's a born Spur!" joke here}
ace3g
06-02-2010, 02:55 PM
I think he has missed 5 straight now including those 3 I mentioned earlier, but again he had another big basket to put Caja ahead
Mel_13
06-02-2010, 02:56 PM
I think he has missed 5 straight now including those 3 I mentioned earlier, but again he had another big basket to put Caja ahead
Clanged them off the front of the rim just like #21 should.
ace3g
06-02-2010, 02:59 PM
Caja in general has been missing FT all game
down 63-69 after 2 big 3s by llull
ace3g
06-02-2010, 03:06 PM
game just ended
ace3g
06-02-2010, 03:07 PM
http://acb360.orange.es/partidos/LACB/54/324
that was the link
so they might have the replay of the game soon
admiralsnackbar
06-02-2010, 04:05 PM
It's up now. Thanks for the link, man.
FilSpursFan
06-02-2010, 07:57 PM
I hope he will play for us next season
http://www.euroleague.net/rs/11756/56111b53-c236-44aa-a447-40f4f8703ee2/55b/rglang/en-US/filename/tiago-splitter-tau-ceramica.jpg
HankChinaski
06-03-2010, 12:25 AM
I watched the Splitter minutes from the posted link above in the earlier post. I love the man's pick n roll inside on offense he's in my opinion exceptionally quick in that regard and reminds me of duncan when he was younger sliding in to the paint. He's shot inside though looks awkward looking but something that would be effective in the NBA level. He has a quick release in the post. His defense though didn't look amazing except when he was out on the perimeter he had quick feet playing out on the perimeter inside on rebounding he doesn't seem to get in proper position at times and for a guy with his length you would think he could pull more rebounds, but this is one game but I like what I saw from this guy. And he would be an improvement in our back court if we brought him over. From what I've read in the past from other posters that have followed him better than I
also would like to add, he look good with his back to the rim on offense and threw a few nice passes in the post.
PublicOption
06-03-2010, 09:04 AM
Did you guys no that last year he lost a younger sister to luekemia. Maybe thats why the Spurs didn't really go after him.......Its been a year and a half.......I bet he's coming.
wildbill2u
06-03-2010, 10:15 AM
It's all about the draft, I'm pretty sure if we see the Spurs go after a big then that is probably an indication that there is almost zero chance of us getting Splitter.
If we trade Splitter it is likely because he either chose to not sign with us or he is asking more than we can offer and this is our way of getting some value for him.
The numbers I gave are pretty legit. right now the Euro is 1 for every 1.22 dollars. We can offer some where around 5 mil a year with the MLE and all Madrid needs to offer to match is around 4 mil. That means anything north of 4 mil Euros is basically out bidding us.
The factoid about the value of the Euro vs. Dollar can be important in whether Splitter --or any other Euro for that matter--decides to try the NBA.
For the past few years the Euro has been highly valued against the dollar but there is much apprehension right now that the Euro may move down towards parity or even disappear if the Euro economy continues to downgrade because of the debt crises of the weaker members such as Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Greece and Spain. Spain is retrenching to avoid bankruptcy. The advantage the Euro teams had vs. the US has been marginalized and may go further south.
This doesn't mean that a billionaire owner couldn't outbid us but uncertainty concerning the future helps our cause.
Mel_13
06-04-2010, 01:12 PM
Link for Game 4, starts in about 20 minutes:
http://acb360.orange.es/partidos/LACB/54/326
rayray2k8
06-04-2010, 02:18 PM
Splitter not getting much help in this game.. Nice up and under move at the end though.
Mel_13
06-04-2010, 03:10 PM
Splitter with 20/8/3.
Real wins 80-62 to force a deciding Game 5 on Caja Laboral's home court on Sunday. Tip-off at 5:30 AM CT.
TheSpurglar
06-04-2010, 03:44 PM
That's a nice line. Kinda hoping CL gets bounced early now, and that hopefully that makes Splitter realize he needs to go to a team that can support his efforts a little better.
Muser
06-04-2010, 03:46 PM
Go Real!
jiggy_55
06-05-2010, 03:46 AM
Splitter with 20/8/3.
Real wins 80-62 to force a deciding Game 5 on Caja Laboral's home court on Sunday. Tip-off at 5:30 AM CT.
To add, he shot 9-11 from the field and was 2-2 from the charity stripe.
Josepatches_
06-05-2010, 07:56 AM
Splitter is playing very well this series.
But Ante Tomic was better yesterday.When he came here this year people said he'll be the new Pau Gasol.To me it was a joke.But he's better every day.
In this link you can see a video of the game withs 3 or 4 Splitter's plays.
http://www.marca.com/2010/06/04/baloncesto/acb/1275682133.html
Mel_13
06-06-2010, 07:04 AM
3 minutes to go in Game 5. Caja Laboral up by six.
Link:
http://acb360.orange.es/partidos/LACB/54/328
jiggy_55
06-06-2010, 07:39 AM
Caja Laboral advanced to the Finals, beating Real Madrid in Game 5 64-56.
Splitter, who was great all series, finished with another nice stat line with 18 points and 9 rebounds.
Penya
06-06-2010, 08:29 AM
Real Madrid would have to pay a huge buyout for Splitter. His NBA buyout isn't that expensive, you gotta count that money too.
jiggy_55
06-06-2010, 09:48 AM
Real Madrid would have to pay a huge buyout for Splitter. His NBA buyout isn't that expensive, you gotta count that money too.
LOL, I wish that would deter them. If they want him, they have the capabilities of paying any amount needed. They don't care about spending money!
It's up to Splitter to reject them and hopefully he has a desire to become an NBA player, which is a dream for most basketball players. I would like to think he enjoyed his last 2 seasons, made some money and benefited there and now is hopefully ready to move on to the big boys in the NBA.
He is simply much better than any big man there, and if he wants to challenge himself and wants to grow than he needs to come to the NBA.
TimDunkem
06-06-2010, 10:55 AM
Damn. Splitter flopped so hard 3 minutes into the game he nearly hurt himself. :wow
yavozerb
06-06-2010, 11:57 AM
http://acbtv.acb.com/video/2980
Penya
06-07-2010, 07:33 AM
LOL, I wish that would deter them. If they want him, they have the capabilities of paying any amount needed. They don't care about spending money!
It's up to Splitter to reject them and hopefully he has a desire to become an NBA player, which is a dream for most basketball players. I would like to think he enjoyed his last 2 seasons, made some money and benefited there and now is hopefully ready to move on to the big boys in the NBA.
He is simply much better than any big man there, and if he wants to challenge himself and wants to grow than he needs to come to the NBA.
They don'y care about spending money, but with the money they would spend in Splitter (5+~7 € millions), they could acquire a couple of european stars. So it would be a dumb move, yes.
jiggy_55
06-07-2010, 08:22 AM
They don'y care about spending money, but with the money they would spend in Splitter (5+~7 € millions), they could acquire a couple of european stars. So it would be a dumb move, yes.
They could still acquire other stars with the addition of Splitter, that's no problem for them. Today's news mentioned that they have reportedly signed Sergio Rodriguez. Also he is the Spanish leagues MVP, they would do good by signing the best player in the league.
I think that if Madrid make an offer for Splitter, the only thing that could hold him back from signing is his desire to play in the NBA. If he really has dreams to play in the NBA, than he'll say no.
Manufan909
06-10-2010, 02:04 PM
When does the the next series start?
Mel_13
06-10-2010, 02:04 PM
Game 1 underway:
http://acb360.orange.es/partidos/LACB/54/329
Kuestmaster
06-15-2010, 03:39 PM
splitter just won spanish acb and take home mvp honors. shame, good for him but I'm from barcelona and I'm a huge barça fan, in football and basketball
urunobili
06-15-2010, 03:49 PM
:wow
Our chances to get Tiago just got slimmer :depressed
MaNu4Tres
06-15-2010, 03:52 PM
:wow
Our chances to get Tiago just got slimmer :depressed
Don't hold your breath :hat
yavozerb
06-15-2010, 03:53 PM
:wow
Our chances to get Tiago just got slimmer :depressed
how do you figure?
Mel_13
06-15-2010, 03:57 PM
:wow
Our chances to get Tiago just got slimmer :depressed
Guess it depends on how you look at it.
His performance makes it more likely that a European club puts a really big offer on the table.
OTOH, he is ACB regular season and Finals MVP. There aren't many mountains left to climb in Europe. Perfect time to take on the superior competition that awaits him in the NBA.
I just hope the decision comes quickly.
5in10
06-15-2010, 03:58 PM
Guess it depends on how you look at it.
His performance makes it more likely that a European club puts a really big offer on the table.
OTOH, he is ACB regular season and Finals MVP. There aren't many mountains left to climb in Europe. Perfect time to take on the superior competition that awaits him in the NBA.
I just hope the decision comes quickly.
my thoughts exactly.
Guess it depends on how you look at it.
His performance makes it more likely that a European club puts a really big offer on the table.
OTOH, he is ACB regular season and Finals MVP. There aren't many mountains left to climb in Europe. Perfect time to take on the superior competition that awaits him in the NBA.
I just hope the decision comes quickly.
I hope that`s also Thiago`s point of view.
Phenomanul
06-15-2010, 04:14 PM
Thoughts of a year long lockout don't help our chances either... Who's going to want to sign a contract with that uncertaintly looming over their heads (both for the player and the franchise).
Andmeanwhile Duncan will grow one year older... :depressed
Maybe his tendonosis will go away... :drunk
Blackjack
06-15-2010, 04:48 PM
Don't hold your breath :hat
I heard tings. I heard tings . . . :hat
760Spursfan
06-15-2010, 06:35 PM
Guess it depends on how you look at it.
His performance makes it more likely that a European club puts a really big offer on the table.
OTOH, he is ACB regular season and Finals MVP. There aren't many mountains left to climb in Europe. Perfect time to take on the superior competition that awaits him in the NBA.
I just hope the decision comes quickly.
So what happens if he decides to stay there and not sign with the Spurs? Are we just assed out?
Truckules
06-15-2010, 06:37 PM
Thoughts of a year long lockout don't help our chances either... Who's going to want to sign a contract with that uncertaintly looming over their heads
I'd say it's the other way around. If he intends on playing in the NBA within the next 2-3 years, then go ahead and get a contract before the lockout and the new CBA. The new CBA is probably going to be more frugal and so the money won't be as nice as it is now.
Rito3d30
06-15-2010, 07:49 PM
I would like to know whether Splitter belongs to the FA group
if so,Spurs can only contact?/sign him after July,1st
and may not be able to use the 20# concerning to his response
Mel_13
06-15-2010, 07:53 PM
I would like to know whether Splitter belongs to the FA group
if so,Spurs can only contact?/sign him after July,1st
and may not be able to use the 20# concerning to his response
The Spurs own the NBA rights to Splitter. They can begin negotiations with him now, but cannot sign him until July 8th. So, it is possible that the Spurs will know Splitter's intentions before the draft.
Rito3d30
06-15-2010, 08:01 PM
The Spurs own the NBA rights to Splitter. They can begin negotiations with him now, but cannot sign him until July 8th. So, it is possible that the Spurs will know Splitter's intentions before the draft.
thx man
Start Praying:flag:
Brazil
06-15-2010, 08:03 PM
The Spurs own the NBA rights to Splitter. They can begin negotiations with him now, but cannot sign him until July 8th. So, it is possible that the Spurs will know Splitter's intentions before the draft.
I'm sure the Spurs will know Splitter's intentions before the draft !
Mel_13
06-15-2010, 08:05 PM
I'm sure the Spurs will know Splitter's intentions before the draft !
I really hope you're right!
Thompson
06-15-2010, 08:35 PM
'Tiago Splitter, you've just won the finals MVP. What are you going to do now?'
Tiago: 'I'm going to Fiesta Texas!'
(Wishful thinking)
BOHOLANO#21
06-15-2010, 08:59 PM
'Tiago Splitter, you've just won the finals MVP. What are you going to do now?'
Tiago: 'I'm going to Fiesta Texas!'
(Wishful thinking)
:toast
kromediablo
06-15-2010, 11:59 PM
so this means the spurs wont try to bring him over unitl 3 years after his prime....cough cough luis scola
tuncaboylu
06-16-2010, 01:13 AM
This year is the only chance to bring him to NBA for the Spurs. IF we can't do it, he will sign a long term contract with a European team with a huge buyout clause. Onee shot and last shot. Start prying guys.
jiggy_55
06-16-2010, 02:17 AM
So Tiago talked about the future afterwards, and said he doesn't know what he's going to do yet.
In Spanish:
“Todavía no sé lo que voy a hacer. Si fue mi último partido es la mejor forma de despedirse, pero ahora mismo no sé lo que voy a hacer. Tengo que pensar y ver qué es mejor para mí y para mi familia. Aún tengo contrato y una opción para irme. No sé qué va a pasar”.
Google translation:
"We still do not know what I do. If it was my last game is the best way to say goodbye, but right now I do not know what to do. I have to think and see what is best for me and my family. Even I have a contract and an option to leave. I do not know what will happen. "
If anyone would like to volunteer, than please translate that paragraph into proper English, although it isn't need because the translation is quite clear.
admiralsnackbar
06-16-2010, 05:08 AM
If anyone would like to volunteer, than please translate that paragraph into proper English, although it isn't need because the translation is quite clear.
"We still do not know what I'll do. If it was my last game, it's the best way to say goodbye, but right now I do not know what I will do. I have to think and see what is best for me and my family. I still have a contract and an option to leave. I do not know what will happen. "
Like you said, the translation was perfectly clear... but I'm bored so I fixed the minor mistakes anyway. :toast
silverblackfan
06-16-2010, 07:26 AM
"We still do not know what I'll do. If it was my last game, it's the best way to say goodbye, but right now I do not know what I will do. I have to think and see what is best for me and my family. I still have a contract and an option to leave. I do not know what will happen. "
Like you said, the translation was perfectly clear... but I'm bored so I fixed the minor mistakes anyway. :toast
Hey, at least it does not translate to: "I am never leaving Europe!"
urunobili
06-16-2010, 07:38 AM
Tiago still could pursue a Euroleague title with this same team if they throw a big junk of money in the table...
I am not sure the Spurs can lure him out of his club at this point... which it would actually be a disaster for the franchise
TJastal
06-16-2010, 08:12 AM
I'd say its fairly certain that Splitter will stay in Europe. Looking at it from his point of view, he's got it good over there. Real good. It's a different game over there, more finesse which fits his style of play to a tee. He is one of the top dogs over there, if he comes to the nba, he may not be able to hack the more physical style of the nba and the different type of referees. He's probably seen how fickle Popovich is with new players and there is probably some uneasiness/uncertainty there as well. He's probably thinking... "what if I get stuck mostly watching from the spurs' bench for
3+ years and being miserable?"
He is a already proven commodity in the European league. He's carved out a niche and he'll get a big fat contract over there, and the opportunity to put together an impressive career there.
Seriously, he's had, what..., 3+ years to think about coming to the nba? And he's still hemming and hawing away... might as well just chalk it up as a wasted 1st round pick and be done with it.
yavozerb
06-16-2010, 08:39 AM
I'd say its fairly certain that Splitter will stay in Europe. Looking at it from his point of view, he's got it good over there. Real good. It's a different game over there, more finesse which fits his style of play to a tee. He is one of the top dogs over there, if he comes to the nba, he may not be able to hack the more physical style of the nba and the different type of referees. He's probably seen how fickle Popovich is with new players and there is probably some uneasiness/uncertainty there as well. He's probably thinking... "what if I get stuck mostly watching from the spurs' bench for
3+ years and being miserable?"
He is a already proven commodity in the European league. He's carved out a niche and he'll get a big fat contract over there, and the opportunity to put together an impressive career there.
Seriously, he's had, what..., 3+ years to think about coming to the nba? And he's still hemming and hawing away... might as well just chalk it up as a wasted 1st round pick and be done with it.
:lol, with all the video on this site have you still not seen any of it. Tiago is very physical and is quick enough to take most bigs off the dribble. Do you really believe the referees are gonna play a roll if he comes or not?
Chieflion
06-16-2010, 08:44 AM
:lol, with all the video on this site have you still not seen any of it. Tiago is very physical and is quick enough to take most bigs off the dribble. Do you really believe the referees are gonna play a roll if he comes or not?
You know what is the best part? In Europe, the games appear to be more physical. I watched game 2 of the ACB finals, and most of the time, I will think t myself, "That is a foul in the NBA." I believe Splitter can easily adapt to the "toughness" in the NBA.
lotr1trekkie
06-16-2010, 10:04 AM
The Spurs are the ideal landing spot for Splitter. Manu and Tony to lead the way and Tim as the anchor. Tiaggo really doesn't want to go all Gasol and spend 6 years being called "soft" because he can't carry a team. He looks to me like an immediate starter next to Tim. If it's all about the $$$ for him then he should stay in Europe. He ain't Manu and Manu too could have stayed and made more. Manu wanted to prove himself in the best league in the world. Ditto Tony! Both have the hearts of champions. We are not talking about $$$ here but about what kind of heart Spitter has. The Spurs made a horricfic error with Scola who also has a lion's heart. I'd trade Spitter's rights for Scola in a NY minute.
his comments seemed like typical free agent talk to me
Phenomanul
06-16-2010, 12:27 PM
I'd say it's the other way around. If he intends on playing in the NBA within the next 2-3 years, then go ahead and get a contract before the lockout and the new CBA. The new CBA is probably going to be more frugal and so the money won't be as nice as it is now.
What about the part where he might end up not playing for a year...? Is it guaranteed money or are contracts/salaries frozen during a lockout?
ChumpDumper
06-16-2010, 12:53 PM
I'd say its fairly certain that Splitter will stay in Europe. Looking at it from his point of view, he's got it good over there. Real good. It's a different game over there, more finesse which fits his style of play to a tee. He is one of the top dogs over there, if he comes to the nba, he may not be able to hack the more physical style of the nba and the different type of referees. He's probably seen how fickle Popovich is with new players and there is probably some uneasiness/uncertainty there as well. He's probably thinking... "what if I get stuck mostly watching from the spurs' bench for
3+ years and being miserable?"
He is a already proven commodity in the European league. He's carved out a niche and he'll get a big fat contract over there, and the opportunity to put together an impressive career there.
Seriously, he's had, what..., 3+ years to think about coming to the nba? And he's still hemming and hawing away... might as well just chalk it up as a wasted 1st round pick and be done with it.Yeah, it was the same thing with Manu Ginobili.
Think of what would have happened if that guy had come over.
And we could have had Tyrus Thomas!
EricB
06-16-2010, 12:54 PM
Yeah just had to trade roger mason and a sub sandwich. But the stupid spurs wouldn't do it.....
Truckules
06-16-2010, 03:59 PM
What about the part where he might end up not playing for a year...? Is it guaranteed money or are contracts/salaries frozen during a lockout?
He would lose money during the lockout, but he would probably have a much better contract than if he waited until after the lockout and the new CBA. The loss of salary from a lockout could be less than what he would lose from having a new CBA. However, this situation depends on how long the lockout occurs and how restrictive the new CBA is.
Penya
06-16-2010, 05:37 PM
http://www.acb.com/redaccion.php?id=68195
Caja Laboral's president (and GM) Josean Querejeta has assumed as "something normal" the likely exit of Tiago Splitter to the San Antonio Spurs next season.
Querejeta has explained during the ceremony of the watches (an imitation of the ring's ceremony that the ACB invented a couple of years ago) that the progression of Splitter as a player has to be completed "compiting in the best league of the world", and that's the "intention and wish" of the Brazilian player.
The president is conscient of the wishes of the player to play in the States, although that step is not confirmed yet.
By the way... Would you like to see Pete Mickeal in a Spur jersey next season? I think he would fit perfectly, he has great attitude, plays D, BB IQ...
temujin
06-16-2010, 06:03 PM
At the end of the day, Splitter is just a "euro douche with no post game whatsoever".
End of citation.
Yes, trade Splitter's rights for Tyrus Thomas:straight up!
lol:lol:lol,
duncan228
06-16-2010, 10:12 PM
Tiago Splitter wins Spanish title, now considering coming to the Spurs (http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/tiago-splitter-wins-spanish-title-now-considering-coming-to-the-spurs.php)
By Kurt Helin
Tiago Splitter could be the Spurs savior.
San Antonio wants to make one more run with Tim Duncan at the heart of the lineup, but these playoffs showed that even with Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili the team isn't there.
Splitter could change that.
He is the best center in Europe, skilled and physical. He just helped lead Saski Baskonia to the Spanish League title this week. While his contract has two more years he can opt out right now, and a quote on noticiasdealava.com (http://www.noticiasdealava.com/2010/06/16/baskonia/nadie-creia-pero-el-grupo-ha-tenido-fe-y-hemos-llegado-hasta-aqui-se-felicita-splitter) shows he is debating if his future is in Spain or San Antonio.
"We still do not know what I do. If it was my last game is the best way to say goodbye, but right now I do not know what to do. I have to think and see what is best for me and my family. I have yet two-year contract and an option to leave, but I do not know what will happen."
Splitter -- who is generally considered able to walk in tomorrow and be a quality NBA starter -- would give the Spurs the big man they need to pair with Duncan along the front line. He'd be another weapon. Suddenly the Spurs would be better, deeper and younger.
With him and another move or two, the Spurs could be contenders again. Without him... well, it's not easy to climb Everest without a Sherpa.
L.I.T
06-16-2010, 10:21 PM
I may be putting too much importance on Splitter coming over (hi hype), but I kind of think that if Splitter does not come over the Spurs will be much more open to breaking up the Big 3 and moving TP for picks/front court/wings.
HarlemHeat37
06-16-2010, 11:20 PM
It's not putting too much importance at all..if Splitter doesn't come over, the Spurs have pretty much no chance at competing for the West title, no chance at all..even with him, the odds are low, but without him, they are non-existent..
SenorSpur
06-16-2010, 11:53 PM
It's not like he hasn't spurned the Spurs before. Therefore, it wouldn't surprise me if he does it again.
Wake me up when there is official news on him. The delayed suspense is giving me tired-head.
kind of sad but a lot of the spurs' future lies with splitter's decision. the bigman spot next to duncan has never been permanently filled. just a bunch of journeyman bigs/washed up vets. i'm actually getting tired of always hearing about the hole in the center and i'm sure the spurs can never match up with the lakers unless they find a big presence on both ends. if the spurs can't lure splitter over, they will have a hard time finding an adequate center that isn't over the hill.
Kafka
06-17-2010, 06:35 AM
I'm from Vitoria and a Caja Laboral fan. Tiago Splitter is going to play with the Spurs next season. C'est fini.
boutons_deux
06-17-2010, 01:20 PM
"the president of Splitter's Spanish League club said he expects the 6-foot-11 Brazilian to make the jump to America next season."
http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/courtside/2010/06/spanish-boss-sp.html
Ginobili2Duncan
06-17-2010, 01:21 PM
Splitter making move to Spurs?
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http://a.espncdn.com/i/teamlogos/nba/med/trans/sas.gif (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=sas) When the Spurs' season came to an abrupt end as the Suns' swept them out of the playoffs, ESPN's Marc Stein wrote (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2010/columns/story?columnist=stein_marc&page=spurs-sunsgame3-100508) that the team was optimistic that Tiago Splitter, the MVP of the Spanish league this season and the team's 2007 first-round draft pick, would decided to come stateside and join the Spurs.
And according to Jeff MacDonald of the San Antonio News-Express (http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/courtside/2010/06/spanish-boss-sp.html), there's one indication this could happen.
"During a ceremony this week celebrating Caja Laboral's Splitter-led Spanish League championship, team president Josean Quereta said he understands it is Splitter's 'intent and desire' to join the NBA next season," he writes.
MacDonald also adds that Quereta said Splitter "wants to compete in the best league in the world."
Splitter has an out clause in his contract with Caja Laboral this summer, so it could follow that this is the offseason he joins the Spurs.
Splitter has been non-committal about his future, so it remains to be seen for sure if he's coming to the Spurs or not.
There have been rumblings the Spurs are looking to move up in the draft to snag a big man, but if they're unable to do so, Splitter could help out in the frontcourt next season if he decides to come to the NBA.
http://a.espncdn.com/i/columnists/fraschilla_fran_30.jpg ESPN's Fran Fraschilla
Splitter has ability to make instant impact (http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog?name=nba_draft&id=5183480)
"When the San Antonio Spurs (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=sas) drafted 6-foot-10 Brazilian Tiago Splitter with the 28th pick in the first round of the 2007 draft, they knew that he was in the middle of a long-term deal with a prohibitively expensive buyout with his Spanish team, Tau Ceramica. Splitter subsequently signed another deal with the team in 2008 for far more money than he would have made with the Spurs, because of the rookie salary scale. It is possible that Splitter will be clear of his Spanish team's contract and will be in a Spurs uniform as early as next season. By that time, he will be a seasoned 26-year-old player who should make an instant impact in the NBA. This will be a case of the Spurs' patience paying off."
cantthinkofanything
06-17-2010, 04:24 PM
http://www.sportando.net/eng/europe/spain/9466/tiago_splitter_nothing_is_decided_yet.html
Tiago Splitter, nothing is decided yet
The Brazilian leaves the door opens to all the destinations
Tiago Splitter, two days after the victory in ACB with Caja Laboral, did not say anything on his future, leaving the doors open for Caja Laboral.
"Winning the ACB could be the best ways to leave and make my NBA dream come true" said the Brazilian, who has two years left on his contract with the Basque team.
Splitter has to give a final answer to Caja Laboral before the 15th of July. If he decides for NBA, he will play for San Antonio Spurs.
"I have now time to decide among the possible destinations and nothing is close with Spurs so far" added Splitter, named MVP of ACB Final.
You know what is the best part? In Europe, the games appear to be more physical. I watched game 2 of the ACB finals, and most of the time, I will think t myself, "That is a foul in the NBA." I believe Splitter can easily adapt to the "toughness" in the NBA.
To adjust college player stats to the NBA, you must reduce the college stats by some factor.
To adjust Euro stats to the NBA, you actually increase them (partly because the games are shorter, the benches are longer, the team concept is greater, and even star players get fewer minutes).
In other words, Splitter could easily increase his points and rebounding stats in the NBA.
Chieflion
06-17-2010, 07:32 PM
To adjust college player stats to the NBA, you must reduce the college stats by some factor.
To adjust Euro stats to the NBA, you actually increase them (partly because the games are shorter, the benches are longer, the team concept is greater, and even star players get fewer minutes).
In other words, Splitter could easily increase his points and rebounding stats in the NBA.
Why would you decrease college stats? True stars would actually increase their production. For the most part, sure it decreases, but if the player is a star in the making, his stats actually increases because he gets more playing time. College games are also 40 minutes, like Euro games. I am not saying that minutes doesn't matter. I am saying that the player's role on a team is more important. Splitter wouldn't score as much on the Spurs than on Caja because his role as a star on Caja would be reduced to the 2nd big in the rotation, which is a starter, but still not a top 3 offensive option.
ChuckD
06-17-2010, 09:11 PM
To adjust college player stats to the NBA, you must reduce the college stats by some factor.
To adjust Euro stats to the NBA, you actually increase them (partly because the games are shorter, the benches are longer, the team concept is greater, and even star players get fewer minutes).
In other words, Splitter could easily increase his points and rebounding stats in the NBA.
I know they say that Euros rebound better when they get to the NBA, because they shoot so much better that there are fewer available rebounds to be had.
Harry Callahan
06-17-2010, 09:46 PM
There is left nothing to accomplish as a player by staying in the Spanish league. It is time to play in the big leagues.
Splitter has made a bunch of money already since he has been playing professionally for ten years. He will be in a position now to make a lot of money in the quickly NBA without the rookie scale holding him back.
jiggy_55
06-18-2010, 05:57 AM
I would hope that Splitter gets some inspiration from Pau Gasol's success and decides to join the Spurs.. I hope he was watching Game 7 to see what a dogfight it was and how it really feels to win a championship.. An NBA championship should be one of the ultimate goals and dream for any great basketball player
objective
06-18-2010, 06:22 AM
according to Hollinger, he predicts/anticipates adjusted euroleague-to-NBA stats this way:
• Scoring rate decreases 25 percent
• Rebound rate increases by 18 percent (there are more missed shots in NBA play)
• Assist rate increases by 31 percent (Euro scorers are tightwads with assists)
• Shooting percentage drops by 12 percent
• Overall, PER drops by 30 percent.
duncan228
06-18-2010, 12:04 PM
San Antonio Spurs Importing The Next David Robinson (http://dimemag.com/2010/06/san-antonio-spurs-importing-the-next-david-robinson/)
By Sean Sweeney
Dime
Manu Ginobili’s bald spot might signal it’s over for the old guys. But, the San Antonio Spurs are trying to gear up again for one final push with their current roster (http://dimemag.com/2010/04/nba-rumor-spurs-could-trade-tony-parker-this-summer/). Every year, the “Spurs aren’t dead” headlines appear. Last summer, the signings of Richard Jefferson and Antonio McDyess were supposed to put them over the hump. They didn’t.
Now, the San Antonio News-Express is reporting that Spurs’ 2007 first-round pick, Tiago Splitter really wants to and is planning on coming to the States for next season:
During a ceremony this week celebrating Caja Laboral’s Splitter-led Spanish League championship, team president Josean Quereta said he understands it is Splitter’s “intent and desire” to join the NBA next season.
Splitter, the Spurs’ 2007 first-round draft pick and the MVP of the Spanish League this season, “wants to compete in the best league in the world,” Quereta said.
This summer will be a pivotal one for the 25-year-old Splitter in pursuit of that goal. He has an out clause in his contract with Caja Laboral that would allow him to move to the NBA this offseason. Otherwise, it will be two more seasons before he could easily free himself from his Spanish League deal.
After the Spanish League championship game, Splitter acknowledged his days in Spain could be over, but indicated his future plans remain undecided.
“If it was my last game (it) is the best way to say goodbye,” he told Spanish media. “But right now I do not know what to do.”
He was rumored to be coming to the NBA as early as 2005, and has the longest running profile in DraftExpress.com’s history, so San Antonio knows what they are getting from the 7-footer: an active, shot-blocking presence on one end and a solid inside finisher on the other.
San Antonio has long had a desire to team Tim Duncan with an athletic partner. Ever since David Robinson retired, they’ve been unable to do it, going through guys like Rasho Nesterovic, Nazr Mohammed, Fabricio Oberto and Kurt Thomas. Not quite The Admiral.
But the Spurs makeover won’t stop there. The rumors about San Antonio attempting to move up in the Draft are alive and squirming. A few weeks ago, we discussed the rumor of Tony Parker being dangled for Indiana’s No. 10 pick, Troy Murphy and Brandon Rush (http://dimemag.com/2010/06/nba-rumor-tony-parker-to-the-pacers/). It’s highly doubtful Indiana accepts this, despite their point guard problems, but what if R.C. Buford throws in the rights to Splitter, knowing he is on his way to the NBA next year, along with San Antonio’s No. 20 pick? The Spurs are fond of North Carolina’s Ed Davis. Despite recent reports saying the power forward won’t fall past Utah at No. 9, a frontline of Davis, Duncan and Murphy would be a major upgrade.
Players like Ekpe Udoh, Cole Aldrich and Patrick Patterson are also in the mix to be chosen during the late-Lottery.
Murphy also holds an expiring contract of almost $12 million. The Indianapolis Star reported recently that the Pacers want to unload some of their expiring contracts. They’ve had discussions with at least 20 teams about the No. 10 pick, but are keen on not taking back any contracts that would stunt the rebuilding process. Parker is still due over $25 million for the next two years.
At the wing and backcourt positions, the Spurs are in a good position. George Hill is coming along nicely, Ginobili is playing at a very high level once again and even Jefferson is still capable of scoring 20. Parker is still in the mix for now as well.
But the Spurs see the Western Conference as a bunch of teams all chasing the Lakers. No one can match L.A.’s size and length. So it appears the Spurs are making that their primary focus once again this summer.
Manufan909
06-19-2010, 01:58 AM
Hopefully the Spurs don't randomly trade their best shot blocker halfway into the season like last year. If only they had traded Mason for peanuts, instead of Theo...
ChumpDumper
06-19-2010, 04:55 AM
Hopefully the Spurs don't randomly trade their best shot blocker halfway into the season like last year. If only they had traded Mason for peanuts, instead of Theo...They still would have lost to the Suns.
Harry Callahan
06-19-2010, 07:39 AM
The dime article makes no sense. Moving up ten spots in the draft to get a player who probably is not as good as Splitter AND missing out on the 20th pick makes no sense. Troy Murphy is OK, but Splitter can be better.
I thought Tony Parker is eligible to become a free agent after next year not in 2 years.
Mel_13
06-19-2010, 08:05 AM
The dime article makes no sense. Moving up ten spots in the draft to get a player who probably is not as good as Splitter AND missing out on the 20th pick makes no sense. Troy Murphy is OK, but Splitter can be better.
I thought Tony Parker is eligible to become a free agent after next year not in 2 years.
You're right. That trade makes no sense and Tony will be a FA in the summer of 2011 unless an extension is signed before then.
SenorSpur
06-20-2010, 01:42 PM
San Antonio Spurs Importing The Next David Robinson (http://dimemag.com/2010/06/san-antonio-spurs-importing-the-next-david-robinson/)
By Sean Sweeney
Dime
Manu Ginobili’s bald spot might signal it’s over for the old guys. But, the San Antonio Spurs are trying to gear up again for one final push with their current roster (http://dimemag.com/2010/04/nba-rumor-spurs-could-trade-tony-parker-this-summer/). Every year, the “Spurs aren’t dead” headlines appear. Last summer, the signings of Richard Jefferson and Antonio McDyess were supposed to put them over the hump. They didn’t.
Now, the San Antonio News-Express is reporting that Spurs’ 2007 first-round pick, Tiago Splitter really wants to and is planning on coming to the States for next season:
During a ceremony this week celebrating Caja Laboral’s Splitter-led Spanish League championship, team president Josean Quereta said he understands it is Splitter’s “intent and desire” to join the NBA next season.
Splitter, the Spurs’ 2007 first-round draft pick and the MVP of the Spanish League this season, “wants to compete in the best league in the world,” Quereta said.
This summer will be a pivotal one for the 25-year-old Splitter in pursuit of that goal. He has an out clause in his contract with Caja Laboral that would allow him to move to the NBA this offseason. Otherwise, it will be two more seasons before he could easily free himself from his Spanish League deal.
After the Spanish League championship game, Splitter acknowledged his days in Spain could be over, but indicated his future plans remain undecided.
“If it was my last game (it) is the best way to say goodbye,” he told Spanish media. “But right now I do not know what to do.”
He was rumored to be coming to the NBA as early as 2005, and has the longest running profile in DraftExpress.com’s history, so San Antonio knows what they are getting from the 7-footer: an active, shot-blocking presence on one end and a solid inside finisher on the other.
San Antonio has long had a desire to team Tim Duncan with an athletic partner. Ever since David Robinson retired, they’ve been unable to do it, going through guys like Rasho Nesterovic, Nazr Mohammed, Fabricio Oberto and Kurt Thomas. Not quite The Admiral.
But the Spurs makeover won’t stop there. The rumors about San Antonio attempting to move up in the Draft are alive and squirming. A few weeks ago, we discussed the rumor of Tony Parker being dangled for Indiana’s No. 10 pick, Troy Murphy and Brandon Rush (http://dimemag.com/2010/06/nba-rumor-tony-parker-to-the-pacers/). It’s highly doubtful Indiana accepts this, despite their point guard problems, but what if R.C. Buford throws in the rights to Splitter, knowing he is on his way to the NBA next year, along with San Antonio’s No. 20 pick? The Spurs are fond of North Carolina’s Ed Davis. Despite recent reports saying the power forward won’t fall past Utah at No. 9, a frontline of Davis, Duncan and Murphy would be a major upgrade.
Players like Ekpe Udoh, Cole Aldrich and Patrick Patterson are also in the mix to be chosen during the late-Lottery.
Murphy also holds an expiring contract of almost $12 million. The Indianapolis Star reported recently that the Pacers want to unload some of their expiring contracts. They’ve had discussions with at least 20 teams about the No. 10 pick, but are keen on not taking back any contracts that would stunt the rebuilding process. Parker is still due over $25 million for the next two years.
At the wing and backcourt positions, the Spurs are in a good position. George Hill is coming along nicely, Ginobili is playing at a very high level once again and even Jefferson is still capable of scoring 20. Parker is still in the mix for now as well.
But the Spurs see the Western Conference as a bunch of teams all chasing the Lakers. No one can match L.A.’s size and length. So it appears the Spurs are making that their primary focus once again this summer.
This guy doesn't know what he's talking about. Why in the hell would the Spurs wait 3 seasons for Splitter, then on the summer that he's set to jump to the NBA, all of a sudden throw his rights in on a trade? This guy expects us to believe that the Spurs are going to prematurely give up on a young player they can "instantly" add to their starting frontline? I don't see that happening at all.
Secondly, Parker isn't owed $25 million over the next 2 seasons, because his contract expires next summer.
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