Is Rondo a Top 5 PG?

[LakerHater]

I have:

1) Steve Nash
2) Deron Williams
3) Chris Paul
4) Derrick Rose
5) ?

Who would be 5?

[noob cake]

Rondo is easily top 3 based on playoff this year

[LakerHater]

Hes only played 17 games this playoffs, what about the 82 game regular season??

[MiamiHeat]

how is Chris Paul #3? He should be #1, are you are a flavor of the month guy or what?

[LakerHater]

how is Chris Paul #3? He should be #1, are you are a flavor of the month guy or what?

...Injury.

[j-money24]

Rondo>>>Rose IMO.

1- Deron
2- Nash
3- CP3
4- Rondo
5- Rose

[Agloco]

I have:

1) Steve Nash
2) Deron Williams
3) Chris Paul
4) Derrick Rose
5) ?

Who would be 5?

Derrick Rose and Nash over TP? Interesting. Rondo is #5 on my list, provided you included TP and took out Rose/Nash.

[LakerHater]

Derrick Rose and Nash over TP? Interesting. Rondo is #5 on my list, provided you included TP and took out Rose/Nash.

Ya know, I'd probably put TP 5th but I'd keep Rondo out!

[BadOdor]

Tony parker doesn't sniff top 5 this year, delusional spur fan.

[LakerHater]

Tony parker doesn't sniff top 5 this year, delusional spur fan.
Tony was hurt mosta the year as was CP3 but, that doesnt exculde them from notable PGs!
Interestin though, if we go by jus injury then maybe, jus maybe rondo has a chance!

[DPG21920]

Based solely on this years play, TP does not make it. But if you are using logic and taking into consideration past accomplishments along with ability to maintain a certain level of play, TP is certainly top 5.

[j-money24]

how is Chris Paul #3? He should be #1, are you are a flavor of the month guy or what?

No punk, CP3 is not the best PG as of right now, he had a bad season with injuries so that puts him down to #3.. The list could change next year obviously.. but right now Deron Williams is the best point gaurd :toast

[21_Blessings]

Who would be 5?

Not Tony Parker

[BadOdor]

2008 is begining to look more and more like a fluke year for tony parker. He was handed the keys and was basically almost swept by the mavs(lol). Again, he's no where near close to top 5. If he was playing at the level he showed for a short while in 2008, then yeah, probably.

[Ghazi]

Rondo is better than CP3

Can't believe people still praise a guy who lets Pargo take 13 4th quarter shots, loses by 60 in the playoffs getting shut down by Dahntay fucking Jones, outplayed by Billups, AND follows it up by missing 40 games this year.

if that's the stuff of top 5 PG's then this is a sad time for that position in the NbA.

[Ghazi]

Hes only played 17 games this playoffs, what about the 82 game regular season??

All NBA defensive 1st team

just barely missed all-NBA 3rd team.

Good regular season and great playoffs.

Rondo is top 5 for sure, maybe top 3. Matter of opinion.

Whats not a valid opinion is CP3 being better than Rondo.

[Roddy Beaubois]

1- Deron
2- Nash
3- CP3
4- Rondo
5- Rose

2,3 and 4 are really close. probably interchangeable.

lmao tony parker

[DPG21920]

lmao at lmao'ing at TP.

[Ghazi]

1- Deron
2- Nash
3- CP3
4- Rondo
5- Rose

2,3 and 4 are really close. probably interchangeable.

lmao tony parker

You > CP3

If not now, in 2 years when that dude's beaten down by injuries and the contact he absorbs from incessant flopping.

[BadOdor]

Dragic>Roddy tbh.

[Roddy Beaubois]

lmao at lmao'ing at TP.

lmao at picking Tony over Rose.

[DPG21920]

lmao at picking Tony over Rose.

This year, no. Overall, clearly.

[Roddy Beaubois]

This year, no. Overall, clearly.

This is becoming spurfans favorite line. I've heard it said about Manu, Duncan and TP. Over the last few years. Its like they don't know what kind of list were making here. We're not saying who has had the better career.

So TP wasn't better than Rose this year, do you think he will be next year? When Rose will get even better?

[BadOdor]

This year, no. Overall, clearly.

This argument is bullshit though. In the NBA, unless you have a long history of being top 3, for example, you are only as good as you're last year. Parker has been top 5/top 3 level only for a short stretch of time in 2008. Right now I'd say the chances are that his level back then was more of a fluke than the norm.

[Giuseppe]

He's Number 1. I said it first a year ago, and I was right.

I'd trade anybody on the Lakers not named Kobe for him right now.

[DPG21920]

2007 finals MVP, 2008 very good year, top 10 in MVP voting, injured this year. Yes, I think if TP is healthy next year he will be better than Rose.

[TD 21]

I agree. Rose is a bigger, stronger, more athletic version of Parker, only he's played at or near the level Parker has in recent seasons for less than one full season, yet people have inexplicably already placed him above Parker. Why; because he projects to be better? Unbelievable the lack of respect Parker receives and typical of the impulsive analysis that's become increasingly prevalent in sports in recent years.

Rose is either sixth or seventh, but he's got to do something to get into the top five, even if it's something as simple as maintaining his current level of play for longer than less than one full season.

[milkshakeballa]

He's Number 1. I said it first a year ago, and I was right.

I'd trade anybody on the Lakers not named Kobe for him right now.

:lol:lol

I c wat u did there cully.

[BadOdor]

2007 finals MVP, 2008 very good year, top 10 in MVP voting, injured this year. Yes, I think if TP is healthy next year he will be better than Rose.

So you're going off on 1 year basically? Thanks for playing.

[DPG21920]

So you're going off on 1 year basically? Thanks for playing.

What are you going off for Rose?

[DPG21920]

And, no :lol it is not just one year for TP

[Roddy Beaubois]

Going in to next year, there are a bunch of PGs Id pick for my team before Tony Parker. :lol

I get that this is a spur website, so there will be some homer takes, but among non-spurfans TP wouldn't even be mentioned tbh.

[mogrovejo]

I don't think Rose is top-7. Not enough defense/playmaking/game management.


1. Deron Williams
2. Chris Paul


3. Rondo, Nash, Billups
6. Curry

7. Westbrook

8. Parker

I think I'd put Rose in the #9-#13 range.

[DPG21920]

TP leads the Spurs to 50+ wins in the West last year with Finley and Bonner starting. Rose's best year, this year, he leads the Bulls to 41 & 41............In the East.

Rose's best year has not matched TP's and at best is level with the many of TP's years.

Clearly Rose had a better year this year. He certainly could be better than TP, but don't knock TP without knowing what you are talking about.

[DPG21920]

Going in to next year, there are a bunch of PGs Id pick for my team before Tony Parker. :lol

I get that this is a spur website, so there will be some homer takes, but among non-spurfans TP wouldn't even be mentioned tbh.

This is becoming Mav fans go to line. Come onto a Spurs site, ask a question, then if any Spur fan says something about a Spur, it is a home take. Show me how Rose is better than TP. Show me the numbers.

[IronMexican]

1. CP3
2. DWill
3. Nash
4. Rondo
5. Rose

[BadOdor]

TP leads the Spurs to 50+ wins in the West last year with Finley and Bonner starting. Rose's best year, this year, he leads the Bulls to 41 & 41............In the East.

Rose's best year has not matched TP's and at best is level with the many of TP's years.

Clearly Rose had a better year this year. He certainly could be better than TP, but don't knock TP without knowing what you are talking about.

Crofl suddenly spur fan cares about the regular season record. Rose led his team to a 7 game series against a celtics team that almost beat the finalists. Parker almost got swept by a mavs team that in turn almost got swept by denver.

[DPG21920]

Crofl finals MVP

[BadOdor]

Crofl almost swept by the mavs as the number 1 option.

[Roddy Beaubois]

TP leads the Spurs to 50+ wins in the West last year with Finley and Bonner starting. Rose's best year, this year, he leads the Bulls to 41 & 41............In the East.

TP also had Tim Duncan. And Manu for a little over half the year. Roses starting lineup didn't feature big names.

Im just saying, if Rose was better this year in just his 2nd year in the league, I think he will easily be better next year. So its safe to say Rose>Parker. imho.

[DPG21920]

so you're going off on 1 year basically? Thanks for playing.


what are you going off for rose?

btw

[Roddy Beaubois]

Crofl finals MVP

So can we bring Billups into this discussion?

[DPG21920]

TP also had Tim Duncan. And Manu for a little over half the year. Roses starting lineup didn't feature big names.

Im just saying, if Rose was better this year in just his 2nd year in the league, I think he will easily be better next year. So its safe to say Rose>Parker. imho.

Rose was better compared to a hurt TP. Not a healthy TP. Given, there is nothing you can do about that, but TP's last few years were all better if not equal to Roses.

Rose could very well end up being better than TP. I just think it is foolish that TP gets so little respect.

Although Rose did not have Duncan, he had solid players around him.

[DPG21920]

So can we bring Billups into this discussion?

Sure. He deserves to be in there.

[TD 21]

I love how when it's convenient, then Duncan becomes something again. When it's not, he's not.

Going forward, who would you take...

Paul or Williams? I think Paul is slightly better, but Williams is bigger, stronger and probably will be more durable. I'm going with Williams.

Rose or Wall? Obviously Wall has yet to play an NBA game, so it's tough to judge him, but he's supposedly a better version of Rose. Right now I'm undecided.

Rondo or Westbrook? Both athletic freaks, but Rondo is more of a true PG. I'm going with Rondo.

Curry or Jennings? While I think Jennings will be very good, I think he also got over hyped this past season because he's flashy and outspoken. Curry, on the other hand, has already exceeded my expectations and I like his size/skill set better. I'm going with Curry.

[JamStone]

I'd take Rondo over any point guard not named Deron Williams or Chris Paul right now. I wasn't a big fan of Rondo for a long time. I thought he was more of a product of the players around him. But last year's playoffs, this past season, and these playoffs have convinced me. He has become the Celtics best player. He won't always be the highest scorer. He won't always run the team perfectly. But he has become a difference maker at both ends. He really is their most important player. He still has a ways to go with his jumper, especially as applied to free throws. But the rest of his game is great. Even when his very good teammates don't play well, he can carry the team. He has evolved into a top 3 PG in the league imo. I don't like anything about the Celtics, but I appreciate Rondo's game.

Nash played great this post-season and it's almost a toss-up between him and Rondo, but I'd go with Rondo because of his all around game and also because of his youth.

So Deron Williams, CP3, Rondo and/or Nash at 3 and 4, and I'd probably place Billups at #5 because of how he runs a team. I think Rose is still developing. He's close though. Right now, at least for me, he's still more a great athlete who plays point guard rather than a great point guard. I think Russell Westbrook has a chance to be in the conversation if he continues to develop like he has. Tony Parker is in the mix with those guys. Great player who can take over games, but still could improve his overall point guard game. Oh yeah forgot, I also like Stephen Curry a lot too. Just don't know if he's in the conversation with the guys I mention above just yet.

[Ghazi]

Nice list from mogrovejo, CP3 withstanding.

That high on Curry? I haven't seen him play much at all, so I'll take your word on it.

[DPG21920]

Player Comparison Stats:

TP PER 36 Minute Stats: 18.1 PTS, 6.2 AST, 3.3 REB, 73% FT, 31% 3PT, 49% FG, 1 STL, 2.7 TO

Rose PER 36 Minute Stats: 18.3 PTS, 6 AST, 3.7 REB, 77% FT, 24% 3PT, 48% FG, .8 STL, 2.6 TO

TP's win share/PER 48: .143
Rose's win share/PER48: .089

TP's Playoff Win Share/PER 48: .078
Rose's Playoff Win Share/PER 48: .015

TP Defensive Rating (PTs allowed per 100 possessions): 103
Rose Defensive Rating: 111

TP: 1 All NBA Team
Rose: 0

TP: Finals MVP
Rose: None.

TP Highest PER: 23.4
Rose Highest PER: 18.6

TP Career PER: 18.3
Rose Career PER: 17.3

I fail to see this clear cut gap.

[DPG21920]

We will see next year how this list looks. It is easy to judge guys when they are hurt when there are so many great pg's in the league.

[BRHornet45]

No punk, CP3 is not the best PG as of right now, he had a bad season with injuries so that puts him down to #3.. The list could change next year obviously.. but right now Deron Williams is the best point gaurd :toast

bad season of injuries ... yes

but a bad season? are you serious? since when is putting up 18.7pts, 10.7asst, and 2.1stl while shooting .493 from the field and .409 from 3PT a "bad season"??? son even his numbers while playing injured are better than Williams lol ... before he got hurt he was putting up his usual 20+ and 11+ per game and shooting over .500. the moment he got hurt, the Nash bandwagon came around.

[Ghazi]

bad season of injuries ... yes

but a bad season? are you serious? since when is putting up 18.7pts, 10.7asst, and 2.1stl while shooting .493 from the field and .409 from 3PT a "bad season"??? son even his numbers while playing injured are better than Williams lol ... before he got hurt he was putting up his usual 20+ and 11+ per game and shooting over .500. the moment he got hurt, the Nash bandwagon came around.

http://offsideswithfletcher.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/pargo21.jpg

[mogrovejo]

Nice list from mogrovejo, CP3 withstanding.

That high on Curry? I haven't seen him play much at all, so I'll take your word on it.

I liked Curry during the season, but if it wasn't for a discussion with my dad who kept arguing I wasn't giving Stephen enough credit for his passing ability I wouldn't put him as high. I went to see clips of him and I now think the old man was right.

I think he's going to be one of the deadliest guards in the league for a long time.

[Ghazi]

Cp3 is a loser. Chokes in Game 7 against the Spurs, quits on his team in the playoffs last year and gets outplayed by Billups / shut down by Dahntay Jones.

Quits on BYron Scott this year, gets him fired, AND THEN decides to miss 40 games.

This guy is a winner as a person, but a loser as a basketball player. Plain and simple.

[mogrovejo]

I always liked Williams better than Paul, regardless of injuries. Deron is just a guy who's incredibly good at everything.

[DPG21920]

Curry, last year surpassed all my expectations. I thought at best he would be a Rip with more range or a rich man's House.

He had a much, much better 1st year than I could have imagined.

[DAF86]

1-CP3
2-Nash
3-Deron Williams
4-Rondo
5-TP

[DPG21920]

To me DWill and CP3 are clearly #1 & #2, I can see why people argue over which one goes where.

Rondo, with his play has to be top 3 or 4. After that, it is much harder if you are projecting for next year.

[BRHornet45]

I always liked Williams better than Paul, regardless of injuries. Deron is just a guy who's incredibly good at everything.

yet Paul does EVERY LAST THING better than him ... check the stats.

[Ghazi]

yet Paul does EVERY LAST THING better than him ... check the stats.

Except you know... PLAY :lol

[DPG21920]

Did I /thread with actual stats?

[BRHornet45]

Except you know... PLAY :lol

LOL dude anything you say goes right out the window for 2 reasons ...

1. You truly believe that Dirk is one of the game's greatest power forwards, yet he has never ONCE put up 20 and 10 (LMAO absolutely pathetic)

2. you paid $250 for a hand job

[Ghazi]

LOL dude anything you say goes right out the window for 2 reasons ...

1. You truly believe that Dirk is one of the game's greatest power forwards, yet he has never ONCE put up 20 and 10 (LMAO absolutely pathetic)

2. you paid $250 for a hand job

Puts up 25/11 in the playoffs

Of course a CP3 fan would cling to regular season stats though :lol

[BRHornet45]

Puts up 25/11 in the playoffs

Of course a CP3 fan would cling to regular season stats though :lol

yet he has absolutely NOTHING to show for it other than being known as the biggest choke artist the NBA has ever seen. he is easily in the top 3 biggest chokers, if not the biggest. oh and son CP3 has put up 22 and 11 in the playoffs along with a complete dick whipping on your pussy ass, faggot team.

[BadOdor]

yet he has absolutely NOTHING to show for it other than being known as the biggest choke artist the NBA has ever seen. he is easily in the top 3 biggest chokers, if not the biggest. oh and son CP3 has put up 22 and 11 in the playoffs along with a complete dick whipping on your pussy ass, faggot team.

sons paul also let jannero muthafucking pargo take 13 4th quarter shots....what kind of leader does that? And then he let denver run a train on his ass, 121-63....c'mon son.

[Roddy Beaubois]

Puts up 25/11 in the playoffs

Of course a CP3 fan would cling to regular season stats though :lol

+1 :lol

I would love to see BR's top 10 player in the NBA list. Because, Dirk is the great white hype and a huge choker, Kobe is a league created star and Lebron is a choker. He has also bashed Nash, Durant, and Melo IIRC.

[thedong]

1. Steve Nash
2. Deron
3.Rondo
4.Derrick Rose
5.Roddy B.

Fuck CP3, that guy is peaked like a mother ******

[BRHornet45]

+1 :lol

I would love to see BR's top 10 player in the NBA list. Because, Dirk is the great white hype and a huge choker, Kobe is a league created star and Lebron is a choker. He has also bashed Nash, Durant, and Melo IIRC.

son one thing is for sure that Dirk is absolutely nowhere near being in the top 10 ... maybe 3-4 years ago he was somewhere between 5-10, but the dude receives so much help from the officials that is stats are tarnished. Kobe is twice the player that Dirk is.

[Roddy Beaubois]

son one thing is for sure that Dirk is absolutely nowhere near being in the top 10 ... maybe 3-4 years ago he was somewhere between 5-10, but the dude receives so much help from the officials that is stats are tarnished. Kobe is twice the player that Dirk is.

You said kobe is not a top 10 player either in another thread.

[thedong]

son one thing is for sure that Dirk is absolutely nowhere near being in the top 10 ... maybe 3-4 years ago he was somewhere between 5-10, but the dude receives so much help from the officials that is stats are tarnished. Kobe is twice the player that Dirk is.

Did Dirk fuck your sister or some shit? Dirk do like buff looking/serena williams looking black girls.

[BadOdor]

son one thing is for sure that Dirk is absolutely nowhere near being in the top 10 ... maybe 3-4 years ago he was somewhere between 5-10, but the dude receives so much help from the officials that is stats are tarnished. Kobe is twice the player that Dirk is.

Sons but I thought kobe was a barely top 20 player and only because he was given freebies by the refs? what gives sons?

[BRHornet45]

You said kobe is not a top 10 player either in another thread.

and your point? ... Kobe is definitely in the top 20, no doubt about that. the dude is one of the best role players the NBA has ever seen. legit super star? hell no, but a damn good talent deserving a top 20 spot. Dirk on the other hand should be ranked somewhere between 40-50 of current players.

[BRHornet45]

sons just off the top of my head here is a list of power forwards better than Dirk ...

Tim Duncan (obviously)
Chris Bosh
Amare Stoudemire
David Lee
Kevin Garnett
Pau Gasol
David West
Zach Randolph
Al Jerfferson
Carlos Boozer

and sons that's just a list of current active players.

[Ghazi]

Did Dirk fuck your sister or some shit? Dirk do like buff looking/serena williams looking black girls.

:lol

[SASPURS09]

R u a dumbfuck?

[BRHornet45]

Did Dirk fuck your sister or some shit? Dirk do like buff looking/serena williams looking black girls.

son Dirk is white AKA he has a small penis ... I don't think anyone has to worry about him F'ing anyone other than the crackhead felons he likes to knock up and then not support.

[thedong]

sons just off the top of my head here is a list of power forwards better than Dirk ...

Tim Duncan (obviously)
Chris Bosh
Amare Stoudemire
David Lee
Kevin Garnett
Pau Gasol
David West
Zach Randolph
Al Jerfferson
Carlos Boozer

and sons that's just a list of current active players.

This confirms it.

Dirk tapped that asssssssss!!!

I heard that BRHornets tried to report this interracial fucking incident with the NAACP, but even Al Sharpton laughed when BR told him that Zach Randolph is better than Dirk.

''I can't run with that shit son''

[Smooth Criminal]

Rondo is w/o a doubt

[redzero]

I always liked Williams better than Paul, regardless of injuries. Deron is just a guy who's incredibly good at everything.

And Paul is better at everything.


And :lol at a Mavs fan calling somebody a loser.

[DesignatedT]

1. Steve Nash
2. Deron Williams
3. Chris Paul
4. Tony Parker
5. Rondo
6. Billups
7. Rose

Kidd,Brooks,Arenas,Evans,Harris,Nelson,Bdiddy- 2nd tier

[dirk4mvp]

Derrick Rose and Nash over TP? Interesting. Rondo is #5 on my list, provided you included TP and took out Rose/Nash.

:lmao :lmao Tony Parker

Not even the most extreme spur homers can make a case for him being in the top 5, but somehow they do.

[MmP]

It's amazing that Nash is still up there with what? 36? He's amazing

[dirk4mvp]

And Paul is better at everything.


And :lol at a Mavs fan calling somebody a loser.

:lol at hornetfan :lol'ing at someone calling their shit franchise a loser.

[BRHornet45]

1. Steve Nash
2. Deron Williams
3. Chris Paul
4. Tony Parker
5. Rondo
6. Billups
7. Rose

Kidd,Brooks,Arenas,Evans,Harris,Nelson,Bdiddy- 2nd tier

ROTFLMAO! now sons lets not show our blatant racism or anything! LOL Nash #1

[redzero]

:lol at hornetfan :lol'ing at someone calling their shit franchise a loser.

:lol at dirk4mvp :lol at me for :lol at a Mavs fan for :lol at Chris Paul not the Hornets franchise.

[DPG21920]

:lmao :lmao Tony Parker

Not even the most extreme spur homers can make a case for him being in the top 5, but somehow they do.

Guy, I made my case for TP over Rose and no one brought anything to the table.

Not for this year's play, but if you are using logic and projecting, TP is top 5.

[DesignatedT]

ROTFLMAO! now sons lets not show our blatant racism or anything! LOL Nash #1

If i had to pick a PG for 1 game it would be Nash. therefore i feel hes the best.

[LakerHater]

I dunno... I'd take Westbrook, Kidd, Conley, Bibby, Billups, Jennings or Brooks over Rondo!!


Even Baron Davis, Andre Miller... Shit even Stephen Curry, but Rondo... NAH!

[Roddy Beaubois]

Not for this year's play, but if you are using logic and projecting, TP is top 5.

So Rose was better this year. Rose is younger and is still getting better. Yet logic says TP will be better next year?

ok.

[DPG21920]

So Rose was better this year. Rose is younger and is still getting better. Yet logic says TP will be better next year?

ok.

Rose was only better because TP was hurt. Even in Rose's best year (this one), he never really approached TP's best year (which was just one year ago). It is not like it is logical to expect TP to fall off a cliff.

[Ice009]

Tp is definitely not top 5 this year. He was very, very average compared to his standards. Injury and fatigue played a big factor in that though. Let's see how he goes next season because last season he was clearly top 3 and approaching Superstar level play for a good 3-4 months.

I wonder if Rondo is being slightly overrated though. He is great and I love the way he is playing, but I'd like to see Rondo on an average team that isn't loaded like the Celtics are.

Russell Westbrook is someone I was impressed with this season. He just needs to clean up his game a little bit though as he makes dumb mistakes sometimes with turnovers and throws up bad shots, but otherwise he is a beast and he really started to put it together just before the playoffs and into the playoffs.

[LakerHater]

I wonder if Rondo is being slightly overrated though. He is great and I love the way he is playing, but I'd like to see Rondo on an average team that isn't loaded like the Celtics are.


Thats what I was thinking, hes got a good player for each position & still leads the team in TOs!

[redzero]

I can understand putting Nash ahead of Paul because of the injuries, but there is no reason to put Nash ahead of Deron Williams.

[DPG21920]

It is because of Nash's playoff run.

[LakerHater]

It is because of Nash's playoff run.

i think thats why everyone is high on Rondo! In Nash's defense, he was consistant through out the regular & playoff season!

Rondo was quite untill playoffs!

[8FOR!3]

1. CP3
2. Deron
3. Parker
4. Rondo
5. Nash
6. Rose

So the answer is yes. Keep in mind that Deron Williams and Chris Paul are virtually interchangeable 1st and 2nd best PGs this year.

[dirk4mvp]

1. CP3
2. Deron
3. Parker
4. Rondo
5. Nash
6. Rose

So the answer is yes. Keep in mind that Deron Williams and Chris Paul are virtually interchangeable 1st and 2nd best PGs this year.

:lmao

[dirk4mvp]

I dunno... I'd take Westbrook, Kidd, Conley, Bibby, Billups, Jennings or Brooks over Rondo!!


Even Baron Davis, Andre Miller... Shit even Stephen Curry, but Rondo... NAH!

No you wouldn't. Unless you're slow in the brain. I didn't bold Westbrook cause that might be somewhat debatable (with Rondo still winning), but any of the others aren't really close bro.

[DPG21920]

Yeah, at this point, even if you hate Rondo, listing those dudes you did over him is just not really arguable.

[LakerHater]

No you wouldn't. Unless you're slow in the brain. I didn't bold Westbrook cause that might be somewhat debatable (with Rondo still winning), but any of the others aren't really close bro.

You can really place anyone of them in Rondo's position & they'd have a wayyy better season but, you can't place Rondo on any of their teams cuz hed struggle very badly!!!

[dirk4mvp]

You can really place anyone of them in Rondo's position & they'd have a wayyy better season but, you can't place Rondo on any of their teams cuz hed struggle very badly!!!

Based on what? Rondo being the Celtic's best player?

[LakerHater]

Based on what? Rondo being the Celtic's best player?

WoW, & you called me slow in the brain!

:lol

[dirk4mvp]

WoW, & you called me slow in the brain!

:lol

Sons, I don't see you post that often outside of the nfl forum, and from what I've seen in there, assessing you as being slow in the brain would be accurate.

[LakerHater]

Sons, I don't see you post that often outside of the nfl forum, and from what I've seen in there, assessing you as being slow in the brain would be accurate.
Sons??

Anyway... I post in alota different places, sorry if you havent seen me!

Still would take alota PGs over Rondo!

[crc21209]

Rondo was easily the Celtics best player this year, and as of right now...he is a Top 5 PG in the league.

[Roddy Beaubois]

Rondo was easily the Celtics best player this year, and as of right now...he is a Top 5 PG in the league.

+1. He has been ever sense the 09 Chicago series.

[eisfeld]

He is now...

1. Williams
2. Rondo
3. Paul
4. Nash
5. Rose

and he should enjoy while he is is top 5. Guys like Rose and Westbrook will soon surpass him.

[j-money24]

son Dirk is white AKA he has a small penis ... I don't think anyone has to worry about him F'ing anyone other than the crackhead felons he likes to knock up and then not support.

Son, you're white too, you just pretend to be black.

[LakerHater]

To be a considered a "Top PG" you gotta be consistant!

Something Rondo isnt!

[BadOdor]

To be a considered a "Top PG" you gotta be consistant!

Something Rondo isnt!

Rondo has been the celtic's best player this post season. If you don't think so, you're either an idiot, or didn't watch any games. Which one are you?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I dunno... I'd take Westbrook, Kidd, Conley, Bibby, Billups, Jennings or Brooks over Rondo!!


Even Baron Davis, Andre Miller... Shit even Stephen Curry, but Rondo... NAH!


Wow, you are a special kind of stupid.

Also :lmao all the Parker knob slobbing in this thread. I'm surprised we didn't hear about how he won finals MVP against maybe the worst team to ever make the finals.

[LakerHater]

Rondo has been the celtic's best player this post season. If you don't think so, you're either an idiot, or didn't watch any games. Which one are you?

Did you really read my post?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Spurfan when Parker plays well: he is teh greatest
Spurfan when Parker plays poorly: he was injured!

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Rondo's postseason stats are slightly better than his regular season stats.

[dirk4mvp]

Spurfan when Parker/Manu/Duncan plays well: he is teh greatest
Spurfan when Parker/Manu/Duncan plays poorly: he was injured!

tbh

[MmP]

Rondo's postseason stats are slightly better than his regular season stats.
Typical NBA fan meassuring everything on stats, no wonder why you've won squat in the last years.

[mogrovejo]

I wonder if Rondo is being slightly overrated though. He is great and I love the way he is playing, but I'd like to see Rondo on an average team that isn't loaded like the Celtics are.

A team like last season Celtics that had Glenn Davis as a starter and Brian Scalabrine as the 6th man?

[mogrovejo]

I actually think Rondo would fit even better on a playing for a team with a PG-centric system (where he'd have the ball on his hands more time) + with a running game style instead of the grind out, ball-sharing Celtics. Surround him with athletic players + shooters in that system and most of the people who are still sceptic would be worshipping him.

[Giuseppe]

people who are still sceptic

I don't do spelling indictments, but, that is adorable, Mo.

Long time ago on the AZ Central Boards some guy said about Jason Kidd when he was with the Suns: "your just trying to make him the excape goat."

:lol

[mogrovejo]

I don't do spelling indictments, but, that is adorable, Mo.

Long time ago on the AZ Central Boards some guy said about Jason Kidd when he was with the Suns: "your just trying to make him the excape goat."

:lol

Sceptic may be an archaism but it's not a spelling mistake, Culby.

[Giuseppe]

Sceptic may be an archaism but it's not a spelling mistake, Culby.

I can believe people being skeptic about the little squirt, but, sceptic?

[mogrovejo]

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sceptic

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Typical NBA fan meassuring everything on stats, no wonder why you've won squat in the last years.

I haven't won squat in the last years because I'm not in the NBA, but I appreciate your concern.

[Giuseppe]

Ok, Mo, I'm convinced.

[TheRealCB]

I dunno... I'd take Westbrook, Kidd, Conley, Bibby, Billups, Jennings or Brooks over Rondo!!


Even Baron Davis, Andre Miller... Shit even Stephen Curry, but Rondo... NAH!

Well,you're idiot..

[dirk4mvp]

Typical NBA fan meassuring everything on stats, no wonder why you've won squat in the last years.

:lmao :lmao

Awesome bro.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

That's like the prototypical douche stained, "I'm a Spurs fan, I KNOW what it takes to win a championship!" post.

[dirk4mvp]

sons spurfans have won 4 titles. They know what it takes to win.

[redzero]

I don't even see the relationship between focusing on stats and winning championships. Did Dirk and Nash fail because they were more focused on the boxscore than the actual game?

[TheMACHINE]

Derek Fisher laughing at this thread.

[21_Blessings]

Machine, I thought Odom was KG in your sig for a second :lol

[21_Blessings]

This is going to be the longest 2-3 days of my life. All I see is Gold and Green.

[TheMACHINE]

Machine, I thought Odom was KG in your sig for a second :lol

lol intensity

[redzero]

Derek Fisher laughing at this thread.

You're right. He does have four rings after all.

Where would you put him?

[Mavs_man_41]

TP and Rose could only dream to be the defender/passer/floor general Rondo is..

1. D Will
2. Nash (only for this year, CP3 will probably be better next year)
3. CP3
4. Rondo
5. Rose

[DDS4]

If Rondo can develop a reliable 20 footer, I'd easily put him in the top 3.

[dirk4mvp]

If Rondo can develop a reliable 20 footer, I'd easily put him in the top 3.

Until then, he's nowhere near Tony Parker.

[TheMACHINE]

You're right. He does have four rings after all.

Where would you put him?

i aint putting him anywhere near top 10....im just say he's laughing at us cuz he's the most 'successful" one. :p:

[BRHornet45]

Until then, he's nowhere near Tony Parker.

this

[BRHornet45]

1. CP3
2. Deron Williams
3. Steve Nash
4. Derrick Rose
5. Tony Parker

[Greg Oden]

this

he was kidding, you jiggly puff white boy.

[BRHornet45]

sons I would still take Tony Parker over Rondo ... Rondo is a career 10 and 6 during the regular season and only a career 13 and 8 during the playoffs. just because he has played well in the majority of games over the last 3 weeks doesn't make him one of the best point guards.

[Roddy Beaubois]

Best player on a finals team.

[BRHornet45]

Best player on a finals team.

lmao

[Greg Oden]

lmao

Who is the best player on the Celtics?

[LakerHater]

1. CP3
2. Deron Williams
3. Steve Nash
4. Derrick Rose
5. Tony Parker

Nice, but I think Parker is too high!

[LakerHater]

just because he has played well in the majority of games over the last 3 weeks doesn't make him one of the best point guards.

Thats exactly what Ive been sayin!!

Hes only been playin pretty good as of late (17 games), but was average in the regular season (82 games)!

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Thats exactly what Ive been sayin!!

Hes only been playin pretty good as of late (17 games), but was average in the regular season (82 games)!


Is this why he made the all star game?

[LakerHater]

Is this why he made the all star game?
:lol

So did Iverson & Gasol!

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

:lol

So did Iverson & Gasol!

Iverson was voted in by stupid chink fans so he doesn't count....and I'm not sure what point you're trying to make by saying Gasol made it.....you really are dumb.

[DPG21920]

I don't see a legitimate argument yet for Rose over TP unless you are strictly going by last year alone.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Rose over TP is an argument that at least has legs, muthafuckin Mike Conley over Rondo is bullshit.

[LakerHater]

Iverson was voted in by stupid chink fans so he doesn't count....and I'm not sure what point you're trying to make by saying Gasol made it.....you really are dumb.

Wow, Really??

What did Gasol play, like 20 games before the voting cut off?
Thats what that whole beef Kaman was trying to make bout him deserving to go insteada someone that was injured to start the season & make the roster!

[DPG21920]

Rose over TP is an argument that at least has legs, muthafuckin Mike Conley over Rondo is bullshit.

:lol Clearly the Conley over Rondo argument is ridiculous.

I can see based on Rose's pedigree and this last year how the argument can be viewed, but I just have not seen anything that shows Rose is better than TP if you are assuming both are healthy at this point in their careers. I am not saying TP is better than Rose in every aspect, but certainly TP's level of play for many years now has been at a very high level, with a couple years of elite play mixed in.

The numbers show this along with the impact on a winning team. That is a lot harder than people give credit for.

[Ice009]

Spurfan when Parker plays well: he is teh greatest
Spurfan when Parker plays poorly: he was injured!

Tony Parker was better than Steve Nash last season. He was top 3 PG, maybe even number 1 as both Chris Paul and Deron didn't finish that season great. So it doesn't take a genius to realize he was injured and fatigued this season. He defintely was not top 5 this season, but to act like he sucks or say he is not anywhere near the top 5 is a joke.

[Ashy Larry]

i think he is .....

[LakerHater]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/images/smilies/confusedshrug.gif

[redzero]

The think about Rondo is that everybody remembers his good games but nobody remembers his mediocre ones.

[LakerHater]

Lets see if he does better tonight!

[Goran Dragic]

Yeah Rondo had a mediocre game 1, that doesn't change the fact he's better than Mike Conley dipshit.

[LakerHater]

Oh shit Rondo got a triple-double so now hes the best ever.....GTFO!!!

[Roddy Beaubois]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/images/smilies/confusedshrug.gif

[KidCongo]

The think about Rondo is that everybody remembers his good games but nobody remembers his mediocre ones.

No-one cares enough to bring him down...yet.

[thedong]

ssjsjjaskakaknsmnms

[LakerHater]

No-one cares enough to bring him down...yet.

Well they give him way to much credit, he was quite during the regular season (82 games) & been good in the playoffs (18 games)!!

Thing is he has played not one of the top Point Guards in the playoffs... cuz they're in the West!
If he were in the West he wouldnt be a top 5!

[Goran Dragic]

Well they give him way to much credit, he was quite during the regular season (82 games) & been good in the playoffs (18 games)!!

Thing is he has played not one of the top Point Guards in the playoffs... cuz they're in the West!
If he were in the West he wouldnt be a top 5!


You're too dumb for words

[Ghazi]

1. CP3
2. Deron Williams
3. Steve Nash
4. Derrick Rose
5. Tony Parker

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[Ghazi]

I'm thinkin if you put a guy like Parker, Rose, Paul, or Kidd in there instead of Rondo.... it's Cavs or Magic v the Lakers and not the Celtics.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

What about Mike Conley :lmao, according to LakerHater, Mike Conley could be doing Rondo's job right now.

[Ghazi]

I dunno... I'd take Westbrook, Kidd, Conley, Bibby, Billups, Jennings or Brooks over Rondo!!


Even Baron Davis, Andre Miller... Shit even Stephen Curry, but Rondo... NAH!

:wow:wow :wow :wow :wow :wow :wow :wow :wow

[LakerHater]

What about Mike Conley :lmao, according to LakerHater, Mike Conley could be doing Rondo's job right now.
He was jus an example... hell, I could do Rando's job!
Hav'em switch teams with any point guard n the West & that point guard would go up n Rondo would go down.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

He was jus an example....


A very retarded one at that.

[elbamba]

I would take Rondo over every pg in the league right now.

[dirk4mvp]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/images/smilies/confusedshrug.gif

:lmao

this guy's bootleg smilies are more retarded than his posts in this thread.

[dirk4mvp]

lol lakerhater

lol mike conley

lol giants

lol retarded little brother

lol plaxico

[urunobili]

Rondo > Williams > CP3 > Rose > Evans > Parker

[LnGrrrR]

I wouldn't trade Rondo for anything, but I wouldn't be complaining if the Celts had a healthy CP3 or Deron Williams. I just think Rondo fits our system better, and I haven't seen enough games from the other two to see how well they'd mesh with the C's system.

[LakerHater]

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114981

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

:lmao that's your best argument, an article from over a year ago?

[BadOdor]

this guy is almost as bad as the manu>dirk argy.

[jdev82]

rondo is the worst defender i have ever seen

[DAF86]

this guy is almost as bad as the manu>dirk argy.

I see you're butthurt about me calling you out on your emo posts.

[BadOdor]

I see you're butthurt about me calling you out on your emo posts.

sons you're just making stuff up now because you're obviously butthurt about being an argy who thinks manu>dirk. Being emo is almost as bad as being an argy, imho.

[DAF86]

sons you're just making stuff up now because you're obviously butthurt about being an argy who thinks manu>dirk. Being emo is almost as bad as being an argy, imho.

Then why you make emo comments like "my life sucks" and stuff like that?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

When did BadOdor make these emo comments? I think he was sarcastically wishing he was still in college and making jokes about how the 9-5 life sucks.

[BadOdor]

Then why you make emo comments like "my life sucks" and stuff like that?

Link?

[DAF86]

Link?

Dude, I'm too lazy to look it up but I've seen it, more than once. Your friend DoK knows what I'm talking about, if you were being sarcastic like he says my apologies but I didn't see it that way.

[BadOdor]

Dude, I'm too lazy to look it up but I've seen it, more than once. Your friend DoK knows what I'm talking about, if you were being sarcastic like he says my apologies but I didn't see it that way.

Sons, I have never made any comments which are even close to being "emo". I'm sorry that you're butthurt to the point you have to start making shit up, but c'mon son.

lol manu>dirk.

[DAF86]

Sons, I have never made any comments which are even close to being "emo". I'm sorry that you're butthurt to the point you have to start making shit up, but c'mon son.

lol manu>dirk.

Are you really going to make me look it up? Can you confirm that you have never wrote the phrase "my life sucks" in ST even as a joke that could have been misinterpreted?

[BadOdor]

Are you really going to make me look it up? Can you confirm that you have never wrote the phrase "my life sucks" in ST even as a joke that could have been misinterpreted?

Link?

[DAF86]

Link?

I will look it up after you answer the question.

[BadOdor]

I will look it up after you answer the question.

Never posted something remotely close to "my life sucks".

[DAF86]

Never posted something remotely close to "my life sucks".


Meh, what's the hurry? there's plenty of things to do while I look for a job.

Like writing a blog about how my life sucks and how eating fruit loops is the highlight of my day, you know?

You're right, it's not close, it's exactly like that.

[BadOdor]

You're right, it's not close, it's exactly like that.

Lol, that's a diss at Angel_Luv, who did exactly what I described.

Not surprised someone who thinks manu>dirk took that in face value though.

[DAF86]

Lol, that's a diss at Angel_Luv, who did exactly what I described.

Not surprised someone who thinks manu>dirk took that in face value though.

Not in that thread, so I didn't see it, That's why I asked you:


Are you really going to make me look it up? Can you confirm that you have never wrote the phrase "my life sucks" in ST even as a joke that could have been misinterpreted?

[TheMACHINE]

Derek Fisher laughing at this thread.

[Killakobe81]

1. Dwill
2. Cp3
3. Nash
4. Rose
5. Rondo but Rose may pass him and he may pass Nash soon (Rondo)

[LakerHater]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_CqDk4jAv_Y4/TAilyhd6E2I/AAAAAAAAD6s/iyeDF8aqOik/s1600/20.jpg

[Greg Oden]

Rondo could have Ray Allen game 3 type performances for the rest of this series, but Lakerhater would be the only person exempt from shitting on Rondo because of him saying he'd take fucking Mike Conley over him.

[LakerHater]

Derek Fisher laughing at this thread.

[Greg Oden]

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0211/fantasy_g_conley_200.jpg

[dirk4mvp]

http://blog.oregonlive.com/nba_impact/2009/04/mike-conley-ap.jpg

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Mike Conley woulda had 18 points and 8 assists tonight.

[Thompson]

Up to this point in the Finals, who is playing like the MVP for the Celtics? Is it Rondo, Pierce, Garnett? I've only watched part of the latest game so far.

[redzero]

Rondo sucks. Goddamn.

[SomeCallMeTim]

Up to this point in the Finals, who is playing like the MVP for the Celtics? Is it Rondo, Pierce, Garnett? I've only watched part of the latest game so far.

Rondo. And he stunk up the joint tonight. If Boston wins the title it's going to be a tough call on MVP unless Rondo has a brilliant Game 7.

For the Lakers, Kobe and Gasol have both been great. Another tough call for MVP. I'd lean toward Gasol right now but neither would be an injustice.

[redzero]

Of course, nobody will remember Rondo's mediocre Finals performance as the "best player on the Celtics."