Who here has done P90X?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I've worked out religiously for a few years now and have lost a good amount of weight, but I wanna just finish my dieting off completely. I started P90X on June 1st and these are workouts way crazier than anything I've ever done. Has anyone here completed the 90 days and are the results as extreme as they look on TV?

[pawe]

I've been doing it for 40 days now. When I first started it, I thought I would be able to catch up since Im pretty athletic and my body fat is at 10.8%.
Boy was I wrong! I felt dizzy 30 minutes in and almost puked so I stopped working out with 10 minutes left. I was sore as hell and waited 2 days before beginning the routine again. plyometrics imo is the hardest of all the workouts and if you have a bad knee, I suggest you think about it since it involves a lot of jumping and lower body action.
Its pretty effective and I saw a big difference in terms of strength and fat loss. I guess it should be effective since it is really an intense routine.
If you can take the 6 day/week beating you will do to your body then do it. I saw a major improvement in my body doing p90x in just 15 days.

[desflood]

My husband loves it - he's lost about 25 lbs.

[Strike]

Damn, now I'm interested in it.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Your mom does P90X.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I've been doing it for 40 days now. When I first started it, I thought I would be able to catch up since Im pretty athletic and my body fat is at 10.8%.
Boy was I wrong! I felt dizzy 30 minutes in and almost puked so I stopped working out with 10 minutes left. I was sore as hell and waited 2 days before beginning the routine again. plyometrics imo is the hardest of all the workouts and if you have a bad knee, I suggest you think about it since it involves a lot of jumping and lower body action.
Its pretty effective and I saw a big difference in terms of strength and fat loss. I guess it should be effective since it is really an intense routine.
If you can take the 6 day/week beating you will do to your body then do it. I saw a major improvement in my body doing p90x in just 15 days.


That's good to hear I guess :lol, I had to pause the video and catch my breath the first few times because of all the soreness. I thought the food they recommend you eat would taste like shit but it's not that bad.

[lefty]

No to hijack the thread, but has anyone tried the prison workout?

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/prison-workout/

I liled the one with the cards :lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

DOK, what kind of food do they recommend you to eat?


Foods that just really high in lean protein. It really is all about discipline, but if you get into it you won't wanna eat junk food or anything, these workouts would be impossible to do if you had a fast food meal in your system. The one problem is a lot of this food requires ingredients I have to go out and buy which can be a pain in the ass.

Basically, the best time to do the program for people like us in college is over the summer. I can already tell it won't be easy finishing the program when school starts.

[z0sa]

My cousin did this and lost over 40 lbs. Definitely works and gets good-great results -- IF you stick to both the regimen and the diet, like any other routine.

[lefty]

Foods that just really high in lean protein. It really is all about discipline, but if you get into it you won't wanna eat junk food or anything, these workouts would be impossible to do if you had a fast food meal in your system. The one problem is a lot of this food requires ingredients I have to go out and buy which can be a pain in the ass.

Basically, the best time to do the program for people like us in college is over the summer. I can already tell it won't be easy finishing the program when school starts.

Yep; it would be like putting the wrong fuel in your car.

Regarding the food, once you get familiar with the basic healthy eating principles, it will be easier for you to buy your food.


Regarding the schedule: I have a friend of mine who is about to finish the P90X.
He works from Monday to Friday, from 9:00 to 17:30
He has to commute everyday for a total of 2 hours
After work, he had to study for the GMAT (to be accepted for an MBA)

He has been waking up a 5:00 a.m in order to do the P90X workouts

[pawe]

Best ever is the single leg wall squats. If there is one workout they will allow in hell, that would be it.
Oh no wait, one arm pushups will be an option in hell too. What i do is I supplement it with a different kind of pushup. I still dont know how they ever think an ordinary man can do those. I can do 2 on my dominant arm but Im afraid I might break it or something.

[florige]

Damn, now I'm interested in it.

Lol Me too! I go to the gym daily and I am curious if I could get through a workout without puking or passing out.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Yeah it gives you a plan everyday for breakfast, midmorning snack, lunch, afternoon snack, and dinner.

Just speaking from other dieting experience, don't eat any big meal past 1:00. Last summer I lost 20 pounds carbo loading for breakfast, working out in the morning, having a good sized but not huge lunch, then going for a run sometime around 5-6 o'clock, and then eating soup for dinner.

[TheMACHINE]

i know about 20 people who tried p90x and only 1 who has actually finished it. lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Fuck, is there anyway I can just get the diet part out of the workout. I have been searching for like 2-3 months for a diet to follow but I dont want a phony one or buy something like Px90 only for the diet.

I eat:

Breakfeast: Eggs and McCans Oatmeal

Mid Morning: Protein Shake

Lunch: Tuna Sandwich

Mid Snack: Almonds/Apple

Mid Snack: Protein Bar

Dinner: Grilled Chicken Sandwich

Night: Avacado and bread

I cant tell if thats a shitty diet or not, I need a real one


There's nothing wrong with that diet dude, what are your fitness goals? Are you trying to add muscle?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

If you're naturally lean and have a high metabolism then try eating more red meat. You're not gonna get fat and that will add muscle mass.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Thats the thing. How do you define Lean? Skinny? Muscle definition but not jacked? Not skinny but not defined?


Lean as in you have a naturally thin build and have a metabolism that makes it impossible for you to gain weight.

[TheMACHINE]

Well I am 6 foot 168 pounds right now. I am lean, but not like jacked. But I am trying to get like Ryan Reynolds from Blade 3. That man was straight ripped. My arms are like that, but my Pecs and Abs arent. My pecs are decent but they arent formed to that degree and my abs are just straight, they arent just muscle like without flexing.

http://static.open.salon.com/files/ryan_reynolds_bondage21226275700.jpg


So basically like that.

damn..6 foot 168 pounds!! you should be taking some protein buddy.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Nah, I am not like that at all. I used to be fat in middle school and I am not naturally thin or impossible to gain weight. Thats why my diet has been hard to make.

I have almost slow metabolism and I gain weight fast. Ive put on 8 pounds of muscle in 2 months. I went from 150-168 after I started lifting again in April.


So what's wrong with you're diet exactly :lol, you've put on 18 pounds of muscle since April.

If you wanna get toned, then just cut out carbs completely or as much as possible. Eat a lot of salmon, veggies and fruit. I don't drink protein shakes since I don't want to have any more muscle than I currently do but for some people they work so I won't give advice there.

[TheMACHINE]

Why how much should I weigh

that picture of reynolds isnt really jacked (as in big), he's just major cut. im sure there was a bit of dehydration etc when filming that scene. But if you wanna have similar looks without the lighting and prep work, i'd say 185-190 at 6 foot.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

8* pounds.

I see.

So basically mostly protein/fruit/little carbs?


Yeah, no guarantee it will work but I'd try that if what you're doing isn't working. A vegetable omlette for breakfast, some kind of salad for lunch, and poultry for dinner. With fruit as a snack in the afternoon and a protein bar as a snack in the morning.

For weights, I'm not sure what you currently do, but just try to know as many exercises as possible and don't do what a lot of people do which is have a workout routine and just mindlessly repeat it. Mix it up a lot. The best exercises are when you're working against your own body weight or using free weights, machines for the most part don't do shit. People I know who go to the gym and just use the machines always whine about never adding any muscle.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

the fuck if i know how to make a vegetable omlette.

Thats like not even 1000 calories?


Sorry but I edited snacks in there. It doesn't need to be a nicely done omlette, just veggies cooked in with scrambled eggs works fine.

[TheMACHINE]

So basically 10-15 pounds of straight muscle.

doesnt even have to be straight muscle...that would be nice...but just try to build up the mass and you can play with how lean you want to look like.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Well that's just a general model. You can have vegetables with dinner and fruit in the morning when you have your omlette. The general guideline though is fruits, vegetables, little amounts throughout the day to keep your metabolism going, and lean meat. It might not be high in calories but it's high in protein which is how you get extremely toned. If that doesn't work then have chicken for dinner sometimes.

PS - Do you ever eat salmon? When I lost 60 pounds (of mostly pure fat) and added muscle, it was largely cause of all the salmon I ate. Anyone trying to tone up, lose weight, or anything health related I recommend as much salmon as possible.

[4>0rings]

It works for sure.

Now did you buy P90x legit or did you buy a bootleg copy or DL it yourself?

[RedsLakers24]

damn..6 foot 168 pounds!! you should be taking some protein buddy.

lol, im 6'4, and 172 pounds, i cant gain any weight

[sa_kid20]

Basically, the best time to do the program for people like us in college is over the summer. I can already tell it won't be easy finishing the program when school starts.

+1

My Uncle gave me his P90X DVD's a few months ago after he hurt his back and I tried doing it while school was going on but it was really tough. I started it again a soon as the semester was over so I could complete the 90 days before the Fall semester starts. So far I'm only in wk 3 but its going good so far. The only thing that sucks is that my uncle never gave me the nutrition guide so I've just been cutting out all the obvious bad foods and eating more protein.

Oh and that Ab RipperX is ridiculous! I don't think I'll ever be able to completely finish that thing!

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Not Salmon but other fish. How much Salmon did you eat per day?

Damn you lost 60 pounds? How much do you weigh now compare to before?


To start my diet off, I went a month where I had egg whites in the morning and salmon with a vegetable for lunch and dinner. As bland as that sounds it works like crazy. When I started the diet I was at 280, and when I finished I was at 220. 205 is probably my ideal weight but between school and drinking I haven't been able to really focus.

[TheMACHINE]

lol, im 6'4, and 172 pounds, i cant gain any weight

damn you..i eat a grain of rice and blow up 10 pounds!

im 6'2" 232 pounds...

if i can go back to 215, i'd be very happy.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

damn you..i eat a grain of rice and blow up 10 pounds!


:lol I know your pain. I hate how some people I know just eat whatever they want.

[TheMACHINE]

:lol I know your pain. I hate how some people I know just eat whatever they want.

yah its tuff for me. My weight fluctuates alot...i hate it though, cuz the extra fat goes to my face instead of other parts of the body. ive seem some really fat guys who look skinny when you look at thier face...i get jealous. lol

[DPG21920]

Do yall have to mix in cardio w/ P90x?

[TheMACHINE]

Do yall have to mix in cardio w/ P90x?

nope...p90x is cardio mixed with strength training. The whole concept is called "muscle confusion". I dont do p90x, but i did take alot of its excercises and mix it in with my daily gym routine.

[monosylab1k]

I just started P90X a couple weeks ago and I've had good results. But I have the body type to put on muscle really easy. The workouts are tough but not so tough it's discouraging. I haven't had much trouble with any of them, but I've already noticed I'm quicker and have better body control when I'm playing basketball or soccer.

btw I made a Tony Horton troll that freakin still hasn't been approved. Whose dick do I gotta suck to get trolls approved anymore?

[DPG21920]

Do you have to have a bunch of equipment (weights, bands, plyo steps...) to do this?

[monosylab1k]

Do you have to have a bunch of equipment (weights, bands, plyo steps...) to do this?

the main things you need are weights or bands and a chin up bar. It's good to have some pushup handles as well. Really that's the only things you have to have. If you don't have weights, bands work good, I bought a basic set at wal-mart that works just fine. You can make the bands pretty intense if you clip enough of them on there.

[MookieCrew]

i do this thing, it's called, cooking my own food, eating proper portions, walking, and doing occasional recreational activity

P90X has been chode bloaded like eminem i saaiiiiiddddddd

You don't need some mainstream crap like non-radio p90x to be in shape, just do hardcore underground shit and you'll look like this chode -

http://www.spurstalk.com/ice037.jpg

[TheMACHINE]

Do you have to have a bunch of equipment (weights, bands, plyo steps...) to do this?


the main things you need are weights or bands and a chin up bar. It's good to have some pushup handles as well. Really that's the only things you have to have. If you don't have weights, bands work good, I bought a basic set at wal-mart that works just fine. You can make the bands pretty intense if you clip enough of them on there.

If you really want to invest in perfect weights for p90x, i recommend the Bowflex Selecttech 552's. Thats if you have money lying around and dont want to clutter the room with different dumbells.

[TheMACHINE]

btw I made a Tony Horton troll that freakin still hasn't been approved. Whose dick do I gotta suck to get trolls approved anymore?

are we gonna get alot of "I hate it...but i love it!"...

:lmao:rollin

[DPG21920]

Damn, I want some dumbbells so I can start lifting at home, but those are so pricey. They look nice as hell though.

[DPG21920]

So are these workouts 6 times a week, 30 minutes a day?

[TheMACHINE]

Damn, I want some dumbbells so I can start lifting at home, but those are so pricey. They look nice as hell though.

yah they are...but its very convenient. Im able to stay home and hang out with my kids for Biceps and Shoulder nights. Though, I gotta hit the gym for chest legs and back.

[TheMACHINE]

So are these workouts 6 times a week, 30 minutes a day?

6 times about 45-50 mins a day.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Your diet was essentially for weight loss though. You must have gotten overdose of fish oil and omega 3. Did you get ripped or just lean?

How tall are you?


I had a good amount of muscle under my fat, so looked decently ripped afterwards. I'm about 6'2". I wasn't doing a ton of weight lifting during the diet which is why I didn't put on much muscle.

[Dookie Crew]

P90X has been chode bloaded like eminem i saaiiiiiddddddd

You don't need some mainstream crap like non-radio p90x to be in shape, just do hardcore underground shit and you'll look like this chode -

http://www.spurstalk.com/ice037.jpg



yew jess kent dew tengggks like P90X to look like mookie.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

So are these workouts 6 times a week, 30 minutes a day?


What TheMACHINE said, but I'm starting to do cardio on the side. I try to either play basketball or hike with a weight vest everyday in addition to this figuring that can only help tone. Idk what Dallas has as far as hiking trails (in Phoenix there are tons), but if you do that make sure you bring a gallon of water with you.

[DPG21920]

I need to get back in shape. I went from playing college soccer and running every day, to doing jack squat. I can still go run a few miles and be ok, but I am no where close to the shape I used to be in. I have never lifted weights really. I usually just ran my azz off, did push ups/pull ups and plyometrics.

I need to drop about 10 pounds to get back to being comfortable. I gained about 10 lbs since I stopped playing soccer over the last 3 years, but I have pretty much peaked in weight gain because I eat pretty well. But I need to up my exercise. It all bores me though because I love playing sports and hate "just working out".

[TheMACHINE]

I need to get back in shape. I went from playing college soccer and running every day, to doing jack squat. I can still go run a few miles and be ok, but I am no where close to the shape I used to be in. I have never lifted weights really. I usually just ran my azz off, did push ups/pull ups and plyometrics.

I need to drop about 10 pounds to get back to being comfortable. I gained about 10 lbs since I stopped playing soccer over the last 3 years, but I have pretty much peaked in weight gain because I eat pretty well. But I need to up my exercise. It all bores me though because I love playing sports and hate "just working out".

yah..i cant do the running "thing"...the only cardio i had was playing ball...now that my ankle is all messed up, i even had to stop doing that. Try the p90x...it'll take up the cardio section of excercising.. lots of reps of lower weights so it wont be to tough on you since u dont weightlift.

[BadOdor]

Damn sons, you all put way more effort into this than I do. I tried doing the whole gym routine, but I just can't stand it. I basically stay in shape by doing sports - mostly tennis and soccer. Whenever I wake up, I also start by doing a few excercies, like some push-ups, leg raises, etc. I also d some push ups every hour or so if I'm simply sitting at home and doing nothing.

[BadOdor]

I need to get back in shape. I went from playing college soccer and running every day, to doing jack squat. I can still go run a few miles and be ok, but I am no where close to the shape I used to be in. I have never lifted weights really. I usually just ran my azz off, did push ups/pull ups and plyometrics.

I need to drop about 10 pounds to get back to being comfortable. I gained about 10 lbs since I stopped playing soccer over the last 3 years, but I have pretty much peaked in weight gain because I eat pretty well. But I need to up my exercise. It all bores me though because I love playing sports and hate "just working out".

Sons, you sound exactly like me. I can't stand running even 1 mile, but I can play soccer for hours. Now that I'm graduating though, it's gonna be much harder doing. I used to have 2 days a week of 2 hours of soccer "class"(really it's just a pick-up game), and then at least 3 more hours of intramural coed/mens soccer. Now I'll have to start looking in craiglist for pick up games, and those usually are comprised of older guys:(

[DPG21920]

Sons, you sound exactly like me. I can't stand running even 1 mile, but I can play soccer for hours. Now that I'm graduating though, it's gonna be much harder doing. I used to have 2 days a week of 2 hours of soccer "class"(really it's just a pick-up game), and then at least 3 more hours of intramural coed/mens soccer. Now I'll have to start looking in craiglist for pick up games, and those usually are comprised of older guys:(

Yeah, I still guest play from time to time and play some Men's league and Indoor, but it is not the same as playing higher level soccer. Now everyone is out of shape and just fouls. The Men's league Division I in Dallas is pretty damn good, but it is just one day a week.

I can't find any good pick up games either. But, I need to do something because I hate carrying around this little extra weight. Plus I am getting bored.

On a side note, in college, the NCAA gives you 4 years of eligibility. If a student athletes main goal is to get an education (like they state...because the vast majority of college athletes don't go pro) then I wish they would grant you an extra year or two of eligibility if you get into graduate school. It would have been great to be able to play college soccer while getting my Masters degree.

[BadOdor]

Yeah, I still guest play from time to time and play some Men's league and Indoor, but it is not the same as playing higher level soccer. Now everyone is out of shape and just fouls. The Men's league Division I in Dallas is pretty damn good, but it is just one day a week.

I can't find any good pick up games either. But, I need to do something because I hate carrying around this little extra weight. Plus I am getting bored.

On a side note, in college, the NCAA gives you 4 years of eligibility. If a student athletes main goal is to get an education (like they state...because the vast majority of college athletes don't go pro) then I wish they would grant you an extra year or two of eligibility if you get into graduate school. It would have been great to be able to play college soccer while getting my Masters degree.

I'm not sure when I'll be doing my masters, but I would love to go back to college. Working 9 to 5 sounds so lame....real life gonna suck:(

[BadOdor]

And that is even assuming I can get a job:(

[TheMACHINE]

the only time you'll see me running is either on the bball courts or if im getting chased by a dog. This run for fun, or jogging crap doesnt cut it for me. lol

[florige]

Well I am 6 foot 168 pounds right now. I am lean, but not like jacked. But I am trying to get like Ryan Reynolds from Blade 3. That man was straight ripped. My arms are like that, but my Pecs and Abs arent. My pecs are decent but they arent formed to that degree and my abs are just straight, they arent just muscle like without flexing.

http://static.open.salon.com/files/ryan_reynolds_bondage21226275700.jpg


So basically like that.



My body is weird. When I first started working out regularly I had everything Reynolds had minus the abs. Now I have his abs pretty much but I lost too much weight because I got away from lifting as much. My ideal target is how TO looks. And I read Reynolds workout plan and it was pretty sick when it came to the abs exercises he did. Leg raises will get your abs defined pretty quick. Once your abs get used to doing them start doing them with ankle weights on. Trust me you will see definition if you do them right.

[florige]

I sometimes wish I could pick David Robinson's brain when it came to arm and shoulder workouts. Easily the most ripped person in NBA history. Nobody's arms matched his. Even when he wasn't flexing they looked insane.

[lefty]

My body is weird. When I first started working out regularly I had everything Reynolds had minus the abs. Now I have his abs pretty much but I lost too much weight because I got away from lifting as much. My ideal target is how TO looks. And I read Reynolds workout plan and it was pretty sick when it came to the abs exercises he did. Leg raises will get your abs defined pretty quick. Once your abs get used to doing them start doing them with ankle weights on. Trust me you will see definition if you do them right.
Reynold's perfect diet was a huge factor as well

I read some articles about his transformation and he did mention that nutrition was the difference maker
He said: " I see guys who work out regularly and hard, but they can never seem to get rid of that extra flab; nutrition is key "

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I sometimes wish I could pick David Robinson's brain when it came to arm and shoulder workouts. Easily the most ripped person in NBA history. Nobody's arms matched his. Even when he wasn't flexing they looked insane.

There's no secret to David Robinson's swole ass arms and shoulders: it's called being black. Just look at all the skinny kids who came to the NBA straight outa high school and are now ripped.

[Mavs_man_41]

There's no secret to David Robinson's swole ass arms and shoulders: it's called being black. Just look at all the skinny kids who came to the NBA straight outa high school and are now ripped.

:lmao yeah because nba players don't lift weights

all black ppl are just so swole! bow down!

[florige]

Reynold's perfect diet was a huge factor as well

I read some articles about his transformation and he did mention that nutrition was the difference maker
He said: " I see guys who work out regularly and hard, but they can never seem to get rid of that extra flab; nutrition is key "


Yep exactly. I remember reading somwhere that Shannon Sharpe ate the same thing everyday for years when he used to play. Tuna,brown rice, and canned peas for lunch. T.O had a pretty good diet too. But Reynolds said that he did very little to no cardio because he was already small. He did say that his PT had him lifting ridiculously heavy weight though.


There's no secret to David Robinson's swole ass arms and shoulders: it's called being black. Just look at all the skinny kids who came to the NBA straight outa high school and are now ripped.


Yeah, but they they are SKINNY and ripped. What made Robinson so unique was he had size on his arms and they still looked insane like that. Aside from guys who take steroids, I have never seen a person whose arms looked like they just got finished benching 350 everytime you see them. Pippen was another one who was ripped, but the size mass was no comparison to Robinson.

[florige]

Also if I remember correctly I recall a few people on here saying that Robinson was also a gymnast. That would explain a whole lot since mostly all of those guys are ripped.

[spursncowboys]

p90x is just a specific high intesity training (HIT). I usually go to crossfit.com and do the workout of the day (WOT). navy seals have a more intense WOT but both of these are free. Same results - stronger core and you should lose weight and tone. You'll look smaller with all these but be more solid. My platoon has pretty much moved to HIT 100% and I love it.

[spursncowboys]

Don't make Steve Kerr look bad.

[lefty]

Yep exactly. I remember reading somwhere that Shannon Sharpe ate the same thing everyday for years when he used to play. Tuna,brown rice, and canned peas for lunch. T.O had a pretty good diet too. But Reynolds said that he did very little to no cardio because he was already small. He did say that his PT had him lifting ridiculously heavy weight though.
Yup

The combination of heavy lifting+perfect diet has worked well for me

I'm like Reynolds; when I did weights+cardio along with good nutrition, I would lose the fat in 3 weeks, but could not put on a lot of muscle
OnceI had taken the cardio out of the equation, I was able to trim more fat while putting on more muscle (I still did a little cardio once in a while though, like a total of 20-25 minutes a week)

[Mavs_man_41]

i think common sense would tell you to keep the cardio to a minimal in order to bulk up..

[greyforest]

lolololol sons this is the fucking truth.

Black kids are born ripped too. They never lift and eat McDonalds everyday yet they are fucking swoll as shit.

nothing is born ripped (unless deficient of myostatin (http://www.rdfrights.com/ProgrammeImages/2445big.jpg)), but a higher percentage of black people have a genetic predisposition for becoming excellent athletes than other races.

speaking of that, check out drob on the fast break:
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[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Only after a few days I've noticed my flexibility has gotten a lot better. I recommend it to anyone.

[EmptyMan]

If you want to get swoll pretty fast, take a pre-supplement for your workout in addition to a finely tuned in diet. I was never into this stuff. I've never taken creatine or NO2 before, but Jack3d is awesome. It has caffeine in it, but if you are not getting caffeine from anything else it's not a big deal. I experience no crash. In fact, I am able to go so hard in the gym that I feel super mellowed out (clear-headed) afterwards. It does have some creatine in it but it's not like you are full on taking creatine. All I know is it is cheap, I have no negative side effects, the lifters on bb.com love it, I now believe for myself through experience that it works, and it's cheap.

The endurance & focus is crazy. I made some great gains the last 2 months from 2 hour lifting sessions (4x a week) followed by 30 mins cardio. I wasn't sure it was working, but now that I am taking a 1 month break from it (after 2 months on) I can tell a HUGE difference. I can barely finish the lifting routines I was ravaging while on Jack3d. I took last week off to let my bones/tendons catch up to the rest of my body. They were getting pretty strained out towards the end of that 2 month period. That sounds douchey as hell but that's how it felt.

I bet that stuff would be a nice addition to P90X.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

The supplements/shakes/bars P90X tries to sell are wildly expensive so I don't take those. Focus used to be a huge problem for me during workouts but these days I just take adderol :lol

[florige]

Sons its the worst when you go out to get dinner with a girl and your trying to eat healthy and shit and not drink soda and shes eating like regular food and your eating some bullshit health food.



I could care less about the Soda's or any kind of red meat, or anything sweet since I never really had a sweet tooth or drank sodas anyway. But its when they order anything deep fried like french fries, chicken tenders, that sorta of crap while I am trying to force down a crappy salad with no dressing. And I am always hungry as crap when that happens.

[florige]

If you want to get swoll pretty fast, take a pre-supplement for your workout in addition to a finely tuned in diet. I was never into this stuff. I've never taken creatine or NO2 before, but Jack3d is awesome. It has caffeine in it, but if you are not getting caffeine from anything else it's not a big deal. I experience no crash. In fact, I am able to go so hard in the gym that I feel super mellowed out (clear-headed) afterwards. It does have some creatine in it but it's not like you are full on taking creatine. All I know is it is cheap, I have no negative side effects, the lifters on bb.com love it, I now believe for myself through experience that it works, and it's cheap.

The endurance & focus is crazy. I made some great gains the last 2 months from 2 hour lifting sessions (4x a week) followed by 30 mins cardio. I wasn't sure it was working, but now that I am taking a 1 month break from it (after 2 months on) I can tell a HUGE difference. I can barely finish the lifting routines I was ravaging while on Jack3d. I took last week off to let my bones/tendons catch up to the rest of my body. They were getting pretty strained out towards the end of that 2 month period. That sounds douchey as hell but that's how it felt.

I bet that stuff would be a nice addition to P90X.



Thats what I need something to get me feeling ready to workout when I get to the gym. I work at night and most of the time I get to the gym right after waking up and I am usually groggy and not in the mood to work out. I do force myself and can get through a routine. But it would be nice to go to the gym once in a while feeling ready and jacked up to get it in instead of feeling like crap. I tried red bulls and I felt like I was going to have a heart attack.

[EmptyMan]

Thats what I need something to get me feeling ready to workout when I get to the gym. I work at night and most of the time I get to the gym right after waking up and I am usually groggy and not in the mood to work out. I do force myself and can get through a routine. But it would be nice to go to the gym once in a while feeling ready and jacked up to get it in instead of feeling like crap. I tried red bulls and I felt like I was going to have a heart attack.


Yeah. It's a horrible feeling when you get to the gym, start your sets, and know early on that you are going to have a shitty workout. It is hell on top of the lifting hell knowing you are not going to hit your numbers &/or finish your routine for that day. My first few workouts after taking a break from Jack3d were like that; it sucked. I'm not sure if it is a placebo mind trick or what but you really have to focus and hype yourself up to get over that mental block.

I can honestly say I did not have one shitty workout while on Jack3d. Nutrition is everything though. I found this pregnant lady on youtube that does cooking clips (emphasis on protein meals) so I have been watching those at work haha. The guys there were like..."bro...?" It's all good though. I learned a killer devil'd eggs snack. :rollin

[Whisky Dog]

Hmm, interesting how everyone on the internet is eating great and working out like beasts.

[Whisky Dog]

No surprise most of the people talking like that in this thread aren't Spurs fans. Just cuz all of you are fatasses doesn't mean the rest of us are.

Everybody is a bad ass on the Internet, didn't you know? Guaranteed the people who are in decent shape aren't all the ones trying to prove it with words here. You're all talk.

[Goran Dragic]

Everybody is a bad ass on the Internet, didn't you know? Guaranteed the people who are in decent shape aren't all the ones trying to prove it with words here. You're all talk.


:lmao it's a thread about people's workout and diet plans. It's not like someone is talking shit about how ripped or in shape they are, everyone in this thread is talking about fitness goals they want to achieve.

It must be hard for Spurfan to imagine that people actually diet, workout and have fitness goals :lmao

[Goran Dragic]

"Oh shit I'm so fucking insecure over how fat I am, but I read these guys on SpursTalk and how they try to work out. I know! I'll talk shit about how they really don't all work out and how they're all fat! No way everybody else out there isn't a sweaty fat fuck like me!"


:lmao


"There's no way the rest of the world tries to watch what they eat and go to the gym, I'll act like they're making this up because I know I'm never gonna watch what I eat or workout!"

[doobs]

It's pretty gay to go out for dinner with your lady and YOU'RE the one eating a salad.

[Goran Dragic]

I'm pretty sure women like men who are eating a salad to stay in shape more than men who eat a bacon double cheeseburger because they don't give a shit about how fat they are.

[lefty]

It's pretty gay to go out for dinner with your lady and YOU'RE the one eating a salad.

4XttdO1yipo


I'm pretty sure women like men who are eating a salad to stay in shape more than men who eat a bacon double cheeseburger because they don't give a shit about how fat they are.
This.

[florige]

4XttdO1yipo


This.



I wondered how long it would be before all the gay chants started. :rolleyes I just refuse to bust my tail in the gym everyday and sport a fat gut. Defeats the purpose imo.

[Ballcox]

I started the P90-X program after a co-worker burned me copies of all the dvd's, she had amazing success with the program. Started the program and thought I was going to be admitted to the hospital the first week. But, slowly my body began adjusting and really noticed benefits after 2-3 weeks.

My wife actually got jealous of the weight I was losing, and now she's getting ready to join me since I finished up a 90 day workout period about a week back, getting ready to do it all over again. Just make sure to take your time and not try to press yourself too much, could get you injured.

[doobs]

I'm pretty sure women like men who are eating a salad to stay in shape more than men who eat a bacon double cheeseburger because they don't give a shit about how fat they are.

Yes, those are the only two possible options.

[dickface]

I wondered how long it would be before all the gay chants started. :rolleyes I just refuse to bust my tail in the gym everyday and sport a fat gut. Defeats the purpose imo.

according to fatasses on here, you're just an internet tough guy that talks big but doesn't really work out and eat healthy.

also, since ur BPD are you more Carver or Daniels or Bunk?

[florige]

according to fatasses on here, you're just an internet tough guy that talks big but doesn't really work out and eat healthy.

also, since ur BPD are you more Carver or Daniels or Bunk?



I just like hearing other people who work out and what methods they try. I have no reason to lie. lol

Oh and I never watched the Wire so I don't know the characters. :lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I have no reason to lie.


Neither does anyone in this thread, but doing things like watching what you eat and working out are unrealistic wet dreams everyone has so there's no way you're telling the truth. How many people actually try to avoid getting a coronary in their 40's?

[florige]

Neither does anyone in this thread, but doing things like watching what you eat and working out are unrealistic wet dreams everyone has so there's no way you're telling the truth. How many people actually try to avoid getting a coronary in their 40's?



I know. Its like "Oh if I don't have the discipline, or just plain don't want to eat right, clearly these people are lying and are overweight like I am" I have no problem with people who are overweight and eat whatever they want. Just don't bust my balls just because I choose to. There is some helpful tips in this thread that I am going to incorporate myself. Nobody here doesn't come off as claiming to be all world athletes that I saw?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I know. Its like "Oh if I don't have the discipline, or just plain don't want to eat right, clearly these people are lying and are overweight like I am" I have no problem with people who are overweight and eat whatever they want. Just don't bust my balls just because I choose to. There is some helpful tips in this thread that I am going to incorporate myself. Nobody here doesn't come off as claiming to be all world athletes that I saw?


If any of us were all world athletes we wouldn't need instructional workout videos :lol

Tbh, I sometimes have a problem with people who are overweight and eat whatever they want. The rampant healthcare problem in this country has everything to do with how fat Americans are, and now because of Obamacare Americans who take care of themselves are gonna be paying through the roof in taxes because a bunch of fat asses need expensive medical care.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Has anyone done Insanity? Advantages to Insanity are no equipment required and it's a 60 day workout.

[Trainwreck2100]

If any of us were all world athletes we wouldn't need instructional workout videos :lol

Tbh, I sometimes have a problem with people who are overweight and eat whatever they want. The rampant healthcare problem in this country has everything to do with how fat Americans are, and now because of Obamacare Americans who take care of themselves are gonna be paying through the roof in taxes because a bunch of fat asses need expensive medical care.

I hate they started taxing gym memberships

[4>0rings]

Bump


So anyone actually finish it that started it here? Thinking about getting started. Wanted to get an idea of the diet plan P90 makes you go by as that's usually the hardest part for me.

I lift 5 days a week and usually run a mile to 2 every other day at the gym. Gym gets boring after awhile though, 3 sets, 8-12 reps, 3 different exercises per body part tends to be what I do. Not fat by any means but I can stand to lean out a bit more (17-18% bf). A huge portion of my diet is rice, along with chicken and veggies. That's a majority of what I eat, but I eat a lot though, always have.

What dumbbell weights did you use? What was the diet plan like?

[Kyle Orton]

I never got the chance to finish it because of school/work at once (actually just started doing it again recently). After 30 days of doing it though I felt a huge difference in my flexibility/lung capacity/strength/energy level. I strongly recommend it. You also sound like the ideal person to start doing it.....you work out on a consistent basis, you're a little overweight but not fat/out of shape, and it's nothing like anything you'll do at the gym.

[4>0rings]

I never got the chance to finish it because of school/work at once (actually just started doing it again recently). After 30 days of doing it though I felt a huge difference in my flexibility/lung capacity/strength/energy level. I strongly recommend it. You also sound like the ideal person to start doing it.....you work out on a consistent basis, you're a little overweight but not fat/out of shape, and it's nothing like anything you'll do at the gym.
What weight of dumbbells were you using?

[Kyle Orton]

What weight of dumbbells were you using?

The best thing to use are those adjustable bowflex dumbells. At the time my stepbrother had some he needed to sell so I bought them off him for like 70 bucks but they're normally a lot more expensive. Those are what I used tho.

[lil'mo]

I never got the chance to finish it because of school/work at once.
lol excuses :lol

[Kyle Orton]

sup Mike

[balli]

I'm almost two thirds of the way through right now. Started my second recovery week today in fact. I started off thin except for a minor beer gut. Now I'm rail thin through the stomach and cut like I've never been before. Not saying that to brag, but just saying, the shit flat out works. I was amazed after three weeks at the change in my physique. It's an awesome program.

Even if you're fit, you'll need to take some time before you jump in. I was in decent shape, but I spent three weeks sore as hell, skipping/quitting workouts, having shitty form and generally faking my way through it before I realized I'd really been failing and needed to start over. I did that and ever since, haven't missed even part of a workout. You can't half-ass your way through it. So I'd say spend a couple weeks familiarizing before you officially start. I also made a point to start on Sunday, cause as a product of the weekend, Sat is the one day I'd like to be able to rest and go out and do shit, without worrying about having to do p90.

I'd suggest adjustable dumbbells as well. I use everything from piddly little 5 lbs for a couple things all the way up and between to 45 lbs for some of the shoulder stuff. I'm sure stronger dudes would need more. So if you're that, get more. I wish I had more for a few things, but I don't yet. And I don't have a nice dial up set, just bars and plates with clips to hold them on.

I haven't followed the exact diet per se. I was already pescetarian with no dairy or processed shitty foods in my diet. I've looked at it though, the first phase anyway: it's basically all protein (lean as possible) and vegetables. Almost no fat, sugar or carbs. Which means very little fruit, bread and rice. Don't even think about soda and candy. All I've had/tried to do is cut the hell out of my carbs. Not following the exact plan, but all I'm eating is fish, beans, hemp protein, vegetables, hemp milk/orange juice and water. I'm still drinking beer and whiskey, which is where I'm getting any carbs from, in addition to the OJ I mix with the hemp protein. I find it tolerable, but yeah, I was almost there before I started.

You need to find a chuggable protein source. Hemp protein is the only way to go tbh. Even if it's more expensive. Whey is retarded. Reading on such here:
http://www.proteinbreakthrough.com/

[Kyle Orton]

Yeah I can't wait till the summer where I can fully do it. I wasn't even using school as an excuse. There are some people motivated and disciplined enough to do it during school, I'm not one of those people. When I'm in school me going on sugar binges the night before exams is inevitable so it's stupid for me to waste time trying to do P90X during school.

[Hooks]

I've done the p90x before (bought it and tried it) but I don't really need to lose weight so I just stopped using it lol.

I'm going to be doing the Plyometrics for my vertical leap though. I'm just going to stick to bench pressing and curls, I'll get much stronger like that. I can get my bench press up at least 10lbs a month with a shitty diet, and at least 5lbs a month for my curls.

[4>0rings]

I'm almost two thirds of the way through right now. Started my second recovery week today in fact. I started off thin except for a minor beer gut. Now I'm rail thin through the stomach and cut like I've never been before. Not saying that to brag, but just saying, the shit flat out works. I was amazed after three weeks at the change in my physique. It's an awesome program.

Even if you're fit, you'll need to take some time before you jump in. I was in decent shape, but I spent three weeks sore as hell, skipping/quitting workouts, having shitty form and generally faking my way through it before I realized I'd really been failing and needed to start over. I did that and ever since, haven't missed even part of a workout. You can't half-ass your way through it. So I'd say spend a couple weeks familiarizing before you officially start. I also made a point to start on Sunday, cause as a product of the weekend, Sat is the one day I'd like to be able to rest and go out and do shit, without worrying about having to do p90.

I'd suggest adjustable dumbbells as well. I use everything from piddly little 5 lbs for a couple things all the way up and between to 45 lbs for some of the shoulder stuff. I'm sure stronger dudes would need more. So if you're that, get more. I wish I had more for a few things, but I don't yet. And I don't have a nice dial up set, just bars and plates with clips to hold them on.

I haven't followed the exact diet per se. I was already pescetarian with no dairy or processed shitty foods in my diet. I've looked at it though, the first phase anyway: it's basically all protein (lean as possible) and vegetables. Almost no fat, sugar or carbs. Which means very little fruit, bread and rice. Don't even think about soda and candy. All I've had/tried to do is cut the hell out of my carbs. Not following the exact plan, but all I'm eating is fish, beans, hemp protein, vegetables, hemp milk/orange juice and water. I'm still drinking beer and whiskey, which is where I'm getting any carbs from, in addition to the OJ I mix with the hemp protein. I find it tolerable, but yeah, I was almost there before I started.

You need to find a chuggable protein source. Hemp protein is the only way to go tbh. Even if it's more expensive. Whey is retarded. Reading on such here:
http://www.proteinbreakthrough.com/
I take ON whey protein shakes w/ no fat milk every day and I won't be changing that. Once when I wake up and after the gym.

Those fancy adjustable dumbbells look nice but the plate dumbbells are A LOT cheaper and I'll probably go that route.

I figured I wouldn't be able to go all the way through the first video but everyone says just do what you can but push yourself, so I plan on doing what I can do until I can get through the whole daily program.

My diet is not too bad but I just have way to many carbs, probably why I'm never thin. It's hard for me to find acceptable/cheap/tasty options to the usual carb sides and condiments. I don't drink sodas/eat sweets but I do drink sugar free redbulls before school so I can pay attention.

I just don't know if P90's diet plan is reasonable or caters to more exotic time consuming foods to make.

[Libri]

I take ON whey protein shakes w/ no fat milk every day and I won't be changing that. Once when I wake up and after the gym.

I've tried ON. It's one of the best products. Have you tried Myofusion by Gaspari. It might be one the best proteins I have tasted.

[thispego]

Yeah I can't wait till the summer where I can fully do it. I wasn't even using school as an excuse. There are some people motivated and disciplined enough to do it during school, I'm not one of those people. When I'm in school me going on sugar binges the night before exams is inevitable so it's stupid for me to waste time trying to do P90X during school.

rofl, we all already know you are lazy, no need to explain yourself

[balli]

I just don't know if P90's diet plan is reasonable or caters to more exotic time consuming foods to make.
Do you like canned tuna, salmon and black beans? That's what I eat. A lot of Brazil nuts/almonds too I guess. I grill salmon fillets and make salmon croquets with the canned stuff. That's about as exotic as I get and I find it reasonable.

Mainly, I've just found it expensive. Clean protein don't come cheap in a corn fed America that loves itself some cheap empty carbs.

[thispego]

lol not drinking milk

[thispego]

milk is too milky

i prefer the cheaper milk alternative, malk

[balli]

lol not drinking milk

Cow's milk is specifically perfect and engineered for turning baby cows into hulking several hundred lb beasts within a year's time. It is not natural for humans to drink it; milk is made for building bovine life, not sustaining human.

[thispego]

Cow's milk is specifically perfect and engineered for turning baby cows into hulking several hundred lb beasts within a year's time. It is not natural for humans to drink it; milk is made for building bovine life, not sustaining human.

lol that is the biggest load of bullshit i've ever heard, pun intended

no need to provide your bogus links, i remember our previous discussion on the matter

[balli]

lol that is the biggest load of bullshit i've ever heard, pun intended

no need to provide your bogus links, i remember our previous discussion on the matter

Forget the links, doesn't common sense tell you that you/we/I have no business drinking the infant formula that comes out of another species mammary glands?

[Hooks]

If you guys want to take supplements, take Zinc! It is really underrated, a bottle of 50 tabs will only cost around $5 at the most.

It boosts your testosterone which leads to more muscle and faster muscle recovery. Your body needs zinc to produce sperm, so your loads will be a lot bigger as well (No joke), plus your sex drive will go up.

[thispego]

Forget the links, doesn't common sense tell you that you/we/I have no business drinking the infant formula that comes out of another species mammary glands?

is hemp the same species as homosapien?

[4>0rings]

Do you like canned tuna, salmon and black beans? That's what I eat. A lot of Brazil nuts/almonds too I guess. I grill salmon fillets and make salmon croquets with the canned stuff. That's about as exotic as I get and I find it reasonable.

Mainly, I've just found it expensive. Clean protein don't come cheap in a corn fed America that loves itself some cheap empty carbs.
Canned tuna/salmon, no. Black beans, yes. Almonds and brazil nuts are good. I'm just on a budget so if it's having me buy fresh fish every day I can't do that. I buy those big bags of chicken breast, lean hamburger, ground turkey, and skirt steak. What are some good replacement sides that are not carbs?

[Tony Horton]

I'm almost two thirds of the way through right now. Started my second recovery week today in fact. I started off thin except for a minor beer gut. Now I'm rail thin through the stomach and cut like I've never been before. Not saying that to brag, but just saying, the shit flat out works. I was amazed after three weeks at the change in my physique. It's an awesome program.

Even if you're fit, you'll need to take some time before you jump in. I was in decent shape, but I spent three weeks sore as hell, skipping/quitting workouts, having shitty form and generally faking my way through it before I realized I'd really been failing and needed to start over. I did that and ever since, haven't missed even part of a workout. You can't half-ass your way through it. So I'd say spend a couple weeks familiarizing before you officially start. I also made a point to start on Sunday, cause as a product of the weekend, Sat is the one day I'd like to be able to rest and go out and do shit, without worrying about having to do p90.

I'd suggest adjustable dumbbells as well. I use everything from piddly little 5 lbs for a couple things all the way up and between to 45 lbs for some of the shoulder stuff. I'm sure stronger dudes would need more. So if you're that, get more. I wish I had more for a few things, but I don't yet. And I don't have a nice dial up set, just bars and plates with clips to hold them on.

I haven't followed the exact diet per se. I was already pescetarian with no dairy or processed shitty foods in my diet. I've looked at it though, the first phase anyway: it's basically all protein (lean as possible) and vegetables. Almost no fat, sugar or carbs. Which means very little fruit, bread and rice. Don't even think about soda and candy. All I've had/tried to do is cut the hell out of my carbs. Not following the exact plan, but all I'm eating is fish, beans, hemp protein, vegetables, hemp milk/orange juice and water. I'm still drinking beer and whiskey, which is where I'm getting any carbs from, in addition to the OJ I mix with the hemp protein. I find it tolerable, but yeah, I was almost there before I started.

You need to find a chuggable protein source. Hemp protein is the only way to go tbh. Even if it's more expensive. Whey is retarded. Reading on such here:
http://www.proteinbreakthrough.com/

Keep it up, brother! Don't skip out on that Ab Ripper X either! I hate it, but I love it!

Also, make sure you're using the protein shakes and buying the nutrition bars!

[Tony Horton]

Canned tuna/salmon, no. Black beans, yes. Almonds and brazil nuts are good. I'm just on a budget so if it's having me buy fresh fish every day I can't do that. I buy those big bags of chicken breast, lean hamburger, ground turkey, and skirt steak. What are some good replacement sides that are not carbs?

How about mixing a little recovery drink into your chicken? I do it all the time!

[pawe]

I almost finished p90x. Stopped it and replaced it with kinect.

[balli]

What are some good replacement sides that are not carbs?
Broccoli, spinach, asparagus, salad. Greens, tbh.


Keep it up, brother! Don't skip out on that Ab Ripper X either! I hate it, but I love it!

Also, make sure you're using the protein shakes and buying the nutrition bars!

lol.
8FTkPVc_cxk
"Doc, I'll be twice the man I currently am, but never half the man you are. I'm gonna own that right now"
:lol

[Kyle Orton]

rofl, we all already know you are lazy, no need to explain yourself

Thanks Mike. You could say I was as determined with P90X as whottt was with life.

[Trainwreck2100]

why yo gotta be like that

[balli]

Thanks Mike. You could say I was as determined with P90X as whottt was with life.

oh shit. :wow :lol

[thispego]

ho hum, deceased person smack, you stay fat and classy DoK :tu

[Kyle Orton]

ho hum, deceased person smack, you stay fat and classy DoK :tu

Almost as classy as making fun of sick babies

[thispego]

lol, you MUST be retarded. I've never made fun of a sick baby.

[The Reckoning]

i feel bad for people who have to exercise to stay thin


hour in the gym 3 times a week is plennnty for me

also, RIP whotttttttt

[BlackSwordsMan]

If you guys want to take supplements, take Zinc! It is really underrated, a bottle of 50 tabs will only cost around $5 at the most.

It boosts your testosterone which leads to more muscle and faster muscle recovery. Your body needs zinc to produce sperm, so your loads will be a lot bigger as well (No joke), plus your sex drive will go up.

I took ZMA once and it made my sleep paralysis worsen. That was fun.

[boutons_deux]

be careful with excess zinc, it depletes copper, which causes neuropathy.

better to eat fresh foods with zinc rather than synthetic zinc chemicals.

[ManuBalboa]

P90X is legit. It's basically circuit training with enough variability to prevent the body from becoming used to the routine.

I've been doing Crossfit + Strength Training/BodyBuilding + Cardio. Nutrition is the most important thing. Find your BMR, subtract 500 calories from it, that's you daily caloric intake in order to lose fat. You can increase the deficit by a few hundred calories until you notice you are not losing fat (starvation) or have no energy to complete your workouts. Macro-nutrient ratio is also important. A lot of people aim for 40% Protein, 40% Carbs, 20% Fat within their daily caloric intake. You can do low carb/keto and get most of your energy from fats though.

I've also found Fiber (I use ground-up psyllium husk) & Fish Oil to be very beneficial. Whey is not bullshit :lol Just drink LOTS of water. Not just to protect your kidneys but water keeps all of the cells hydrated and helps you recover.

My diet is basically
*Morning Shake (PWO) contents:
- Skim Milk
- Whey Protein
- Cottage Cheese
- Greek Yogurt
- Fish Oil
- Multivitamin
- Blueberries
- Peanut Butter
* Chicken Roll
- Basically a 5 oz. boneless skinless chicken breast with broccoli & cheese inside wrapped up with a piece of turkey bacon wrapped around the whole thing
- Spinach
- Sweet Potato
* Whey & Almonds
* Steak/Chicken + Mixed Vegetables
* An Egg + Some Egg Whites + low fat Sausage

Sleep is also crucial. That's where the magic happens.

[balli]

Whey is not bullshit :lol
Sure its a source of protein. It's shitty for your body though. It gums up your intestines, causes intestinal toxemia, blocks absorption of other nutrients. Plus it's acidic as all hell and generally fucks up ph balance throughout the body. It's a dead protein that's been heated and pasteurized like a mofo.

Why not take hemp and get quality, raw, living, ph neutral, amino and omega rich protein that's easily absorbed by the body and provides insane amounts of raw fiber to boot?

Really, there isn't even half a debate, imho.

[ManuBalboa]

I dunno man. That site comes off as one big advertisement to buy his hemp product. It looks like hemp protein is a really good higher-quality organic protein. Whey has been around forever though. Professional athletes/bodybuilders with thousands of dollars to pay top level nutritionists/scientists haven't gotten them off whey. That bloated gut the roided out bodybuilders have isn't from whey, it's form HGH.

If Hemp was so much better than whey, and whey caused so many problems mentioned on that site, I seriously doubt whey would still be touted as such a staple in the workout community.

[balli]

I dunno man. That site comes off as one big advertisement to buy his hemp product.
That's true, because it is. I don't doubt the veracity of the claims within though. Just worth googling hemp vs. whey maybe. There's a healthy debate on all sorts of sites and bodybuilding forums. Worth checking out is all. Maybe kill two birds/save some money on the psyllium husk.


If Hemp was so much better than whey, and whey caused so many problems mentioned on that site, I seriously doubt whey would still be touted as such a staple in the workout community.
I'm think whey is probably safe and generally effective for the average consumer. I'd assume less so for really intense bodybuilders who consume it in massive quantity. As to why it's touted, well yeah, it works to build muscle and really, all sorts of stuff that's bad for you is sold/marketed to us on the premise that it'll do wonders for your appearance. Not that whey is necessarily horrible for the average guy, but yeah, I don't think it's necessarily healthy, in comparison.

Whatever though. To each his own.

[ididnotnothat]

i feel bad for people who have to exercise to stay thin


hour in the gym 3 times a week is plennnty for me

also, RIP whotttttttt

+1 I don't need to be ripped and go about 3-5 times a week to the gym.

[ALVAREZ6]

i feel bad for people who have to exercise to stay thin


hour in the gym 3 times a week is plennnty for me

also, RIP whotttttttt

I don't feel bad, I love it and flaunt natural selection's choices.

[The Reckoning]

be careful with excess zinc, it depletes copper, which causes neuropathy.

better to eat fresh foods with zinc rather than synthetic zinc chemicals.


but youll drop loads like bombs over baghdad

hook me up with that shit i saiiiiiiiidd