The New XBox 360

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Damn.

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The guts:


The Hardware:
1. Support for DVD-video, DVD-Rom, DVD-R/RW, CD-DA, CD-Rom, CD-R, CD-RW, WMA CD, MP3 cd, JPEG photo CD
2. All games supported at 16:9, 720p and 1080i, anti-aliasing
3. Customizable face plates to change appearance
4. 3 USB 2.0 ports
5. Support for 4 wireless controllers
6. Detachable 20GB drive
7. Wi-Fi ready

Custom IBM PowerPC-based CPU
- 3 symmetrical cores at 3.2 GHz each
- 2 hardware threads per core
- 1 VMX-128 vector unit per core
- 1 MB L2 cache

CPU Game Math Performance
- 9 billion dots per second

Custom ATI Graphics Processor
- 500 MNz
- 10 MB embedded DRAM
- 48-way parallel floating-point shader pipelines
- unified shader architecture

Memory
-512 MB GDDR3 RAM
- 700 MNz DDR

Memory Bandwidth
- 22.4 GB/s memory interface bus bandwidth
- 256 GB/s memory bandwidth to EDRAM
- 21.6 GB/s frontside bus

Audio
- Mulitchannel surround sond output
- Supports 48khz 16-bit audio
- 320 independent decompression channels
- 32 bit processing
- 256+ audio channels

They will also be giving Xbox Live free on the weekends.

Goodbye, PC gaming.

[mookie2001]

no firewire 1394?

[Dex]

Can I get mine modded with a toaster?

[E20]

Here's PS3:

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[Aggie Hoopsfan]

http://pokemuseum.altervista.org/news/uploads/ps3_controller.jpg

They do realize we only have ten fingers, right?

[Dex]

They've gone too far with the PS3 controller. At this rate, kids are going to need an Associates to figure out how to turn the damn thing on.

If you ask me, video games were just as fun when you only had to worry about A, B, Select, and Start.

[E20]

Man, imagine the possiblities!! Both these systems are so powerful and have internal hard drives that with one quick mod you would never have to buy a game, instead just upload it to you HD and BAM!

[E20]

Also on the PS3 those pics are all fakes. :lol, Sony announced that all pics flowing over the internet are fakes and the PS3 will be revealed at E3 later this month.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

that ps2 controller looks stupid

how could u possibly make use of those extra trigger buttons

[SuBZer0]

I'm going with a Nintendo Revolution, no doubt about it. XboX 2 is actually Xbox 1.5 and the PS3 is for graphics whores/tech geeks who don't care about the gameplay.

"If you ask me, video games were just as fun when you only had to worry about A, B, Select, and Start"
That, and saving the princess from the scary big dinosaur

[scott]

Nintendo hasn't made anything worth buying since the 80s.

[N.Y. Johnny]

I didn't look into links cause I'm swamped here at work :lol

whats the going prices for these monstrosities??

jeez if I want a PS3 or this new X Box will I have to go give up an Organ now?

:lmao

[MannyIsGod]

So, this new XBOX is a new generation all together, or simply a regular Xbox on steroids?

I've fallen so far out of gaming man..

[jalbre6]

Thanks for the link, foofida.

"The PlayStation 3 is expected in 2006, while Toshiba plans to incorporate it into high-end televisions next year."

TV w/ a built in PS3? That'll be pretty slick.

[tlongII]

Video games suck.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Plans change (Toshiba)...

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-5706076.html?tag=zdfd.newsfeed

[E20]

I don't know why everyone is freaking about games with better graphics are going to suck. Nintendo is falling out of the race between Microsoft and Sony.

Link (http://story.news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/20050513/tc_usatoday/gaminghitsnextlevelwithxbox360)

Gaming hits next level with Xbox 360 By Mike Snider and Steven Kent, USA TODAY
Fri May 13, 6:19 AM ET

Microsoft fired the opening salvo in the war of the next-generation videogames Thursday night by unveiling the successor to the Xbox on an MTV special.

Sleek and off-white, the new Xbox 360 system looks like an iPod on steroids. Scheduled to arrive before the holiday season (no price set), the Xbox 360 will usher players into what Microsoft calls the "third stage" in the evolution of games - one of high-definition images and larger environments to be explored through greatly expanded multiplayer and online games.


"Remember going from 2-D games to 3-D? We're going from today's 3-D worlds to high-definition worlds that really will look like a movie or television show," chief Xbox officer Robbie Bach says. All games will be in HD, but only HDTVs will show them at highest quality. Microsoft estimates that 100 million homes worldwide will have advanced TV sets by 2008. "That is going to lead to fundamental changes in expectations, and Xbox 360 is going to deliver."


By releasing Xbox 360 this year, Microsoft hopes to leapfrog Sony, which is expected to announce plans for next year's successor to the PS2 next week at the Electronic Entertainment Expo in L.A. "Sony was dominant in terms of market share this round. It's going to be hard for them to match that (again)," says David Cole of DFC Intelligence. "With Microsoft getting out first, it's going to be more of a level playing field."


Nintendo also will reveal plans for its new system, Revolution, due in 2006. The system will support wireless Internet and play DVD movies plus current GameCube games.


No word yet on whether the Xbox 360 will play current Xbox games. If not, that would disappoint many of the devoted 20 million Xbox owners who will want to play their old games on the new system. And retailers may not be thrilled about devoting space to a fourth console game system (including the current Xbox, PS2 and GameCube), along with the growing lineup of portables (Nintendo's DS and Game Boy SP, plus Sony's PSP), says Richard Doherty of The Envisioneering Group.


Beyond that, the added detail needed for HD games may tax developers and divert resources from making games for other systems this Christmas. "Artists do want to see this higher quality, but it is adding to the cost and time of developing a game," Doherty says.


And Sony's next system is expected to have twice the power of the Xbox 360, so Microsoft may not be able to siphon off many Sony fans. "It may not be the full giant step the PS2 was from the PlayStation," Doherty says, "but it certainly marks the beginning of a new era of games designed to be richer ... and to depend on multiplayer gaming as their main mode: not you vs. the machine, but you vs. a friend."


One Xbox 360 game in development from Rare, Perfect Dark Zero, supports up to 64 players at a time. Most current games top out at 16.


"In every transition, processing power and memory take a certain level of jump," says Glenn Entis, chief visual officer of Electronic Arts, which is examining the possibilities of the new technology. Environments will be more lifelike - you'll see leaves on trees moving in golf games, and the ball will behave differently when hit out of varying degrees of rough. Athletes' faces may be so well defined that "you will start to read the eyes of NBA players, so that head fakes and no-look elements become a part of the game," he says.


Microsoft appears to be on the right track, says John Davison, editorial director of Ziff Davis' videogame magazines. "It's debatable about whether we really need another Xbox right now, but there's no denying the excitement about 360."

[Duff McCartney]

Nintendo is falling out of the race between Microsoft and Sony.

I don't think Nintendo can ever truly fall out of the race in video games ever. They are just too important for video gaming that I doubt people would let them. Without Nintendo, none of us would be here talking about gaming like this.

Nintendo is to video games as Magic/Bird is to the NBA. They may be long gone, but they can never be forgotten. Nintendo put video gaming on the map, and Magic/Bird put the NBA on the map.

[Duff McCartney]

Personally, I'd take a Xbox over a Playstation anyday of the week. Xbox's graphics have always been better and the games have been better too.

[E20]

What games does the X-BOX have that the PS2 doesn't besides Halo and Doom. It doesn't really matter Microsoft even admitted they got creamed by the PS2 and are hoping with the early release of the X-BOX 360 they'll do better and I'm talking about the Game Cube (Ninentdo's company) that's a pile of crap except Resident Evil 4 all the titles are about Barney strikes back or Mario 3D.

[BadlyDrawnBoy]

X-Box 360

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Does the cute asian girl come with the X-Box?

[Slomo]

I don't think Nintendo can ever truly fall out of the race in video games ever. They are just too important for video gaming that I doubt people would let them. Without Nintendo, none of us would be here talking about gaming like this.

Nintendo is to video games as Magic/Bird is to the NBA. They may be long gone, but they can never be forgotten. Nintendo put video gaming on the map, and Magic/Bird put the NBA on the map.
Remember Sega?

[E20]

Sega was off the fucking hook. I loved getting in arguements when I was 8 saying that the Genesis PWND ALL!

[Gatita]

Halo is reason enough to get the XBOX.

[bigzak25]

sega was where my madden education began. lotsa love there.

i'm set with the current xbox. i'm not going to blow that kind of money on a new system when i only play one game and less and less often.

i'm sure the costco demo that is sure to be setup will take the form of a little demon on my shoulder though....

[King]

Anyone know about what this will cost?

[T Park]

Ill reserve it as fast as I can.

Along with Madden and NBA Live.

[E20]

Probably the set price of $300.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

They said it will be $299, or $360 (shocker) if you want the home theater capabilities (comes with a remote, wireless media center connection to play content from your PC).

I guess if you like those nappy Final Fantasy type games, knock yourself out with your PS2.

If you dig sports and first person shooters, Xbox is the king.

[T Park]

Id go with the home entertainment hook up just for the fact of getting it hookd up with my sound system.


I wish they would take input on there sports games, I wish they would make them more realistic, like say

spurs vs clippers, spurs go on a run, clippers take a time out, the PA announcer gets excited, and the fans stand the whole 9 yards.

[E20]

That would be way to hard to program the AI to react like that and EA distributes the sports games evenly to all three consoles and FPS suck on the console, I rented Area 51, it looks wonderful and is probably a very good game but, I didn't even bother to burn it because of the awful console controls and now it's lying on a table for 5 days.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

They do it in NCAA 2005.

TPark, I'd imagine we'll see a whole new gaming experience with the new games. I caught the tail end of the MTV thing, the new Tom Clancy Game (Splinter Cell 3 I think it was) looked insane.

[E20]

Solid Snake is always one step ahead of Sam Fisher(?) :lol

[BadlyDrawnBoy]

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[johnny00]

Anyone up for a game of Tecmo Bowl??????

[SuBZer0]

The PS2 had RPGs - that's why they sold so many. Personally, I REALLY don't care about those damn things - RPGs you say? What the hell are those? Those games where you run around hitting fantasy creatures and using magic to gain a level, and then you do the same damn thing again and again? I'm too impatient for that... And the PS2 had the worst graphics from all of the systems - they're so bad that they can't even make the version of REsident Evil 4 on the PS2 because it's so much worse than the Cube graphically

The XBox was a waste of money. What worthwile games did you get apart form Halo, which they are milking for every single penny it's worth, BTW. I'm serious, soon even those people who buy Master Chief action figures won't buy Halo in the near future. And those other damn games that you get a gun and you go around pressing the trigger not knowing what the hell you're supposed to be doing (because there really isn't a purpose to the game) just because it's "fun" to blow up stuff.

[SuBZer0]

"Nintendo hasn't made anything worth buying since the 80s"

I don't mind if you talk as long as you don't mind that I'm not listening. Stop being so ignorant. You too E20, "the only games that it has are Barney Strikes Back..." NICE ONE!!!11 I'm glad to see you aren't letting your education get in the way of your ignorance.

Nintendo isn't falling out of the race - in fact, they made the most money from all the companies, despite less sales. Microsoft lost $8 billion, just to earn their console a reputation and hope that the XBox2 will sell. If it doesn't the shareholders wont be happy, and there will not be another entry.

By releasing the Xbox 2 so early, the Nintendo Revolution and the PS3 will be leagues ahead technologically. Also, because they want to be able to play Xbox games on the 360, the XBox live service will have to be the same. It will soon get outdated, and the new Nintendo and Sony services will blow it out of the water (the Nintendo one is free too).

The 360 may use the time before the others are released to its advantage, and get a huge lead, but I doubt it. As soon as the other 2 come out, the Xbox will lose its mystique, as well as sales. This, of course, will be determined by how many developers back up the Xbox.

[E20]

Well the reason most people bought PS2's is because, well actually this is just me:
I love action games and PS2 provided mostly all the action games while the GC and X-BOX did not really have any.

[SuBZer0]

Action games, eh? I like those too - which ones do you have that are on the PS2 only? I have the Splinter Cell series but they're on all platforms

And BTW, the Xbox "unveiling" on MTV was far from impressive. They really need to do better than that to get me to buy one

[Gatita]

Solid Snake is always one step ahead of Sam Fisher(?) :lol

:lol Splinter Cell kicks ass. My stealth skills blow! :lol

[Gatita]

The XBox was a waste of money. What worthwile games did you get apart form Halo, which they are milking for every single penny it's worth, BTW. I'm serious, soon even those people who buy Master Chief action figures won't buy Halo in the near future.

Halo the movie is in the works. So, I am guessing they are milking it for all it is worth. Can't wait.

[E20]

Action games, eh? I like those too - which ones do you have that are on the PS2 only?
Devil May Cry 1/2/3
Onimusha 1/2/3
God of War
CastleVania: Lament of Innoncence
Chaos Legion
BloodRayne
Dead to Rights

Many more I forget to list and you can't forget about all the fighting games there are to the PS2 and the Metal Gear Solid series. And you can get Splinter Cell for the PS2 aswell.

[maxpower]

The XBox was a waste of money. What worthwile games did you get apart form Halo, which they are milking for every single penny it's worth, BTW.




I don't mind if you talk as long as you don't mind that I'm not listening. Stop being so ignorant.
Do as he says not as he does.

[SuBZer0]

Yea, you're right about that. The PS2 came out early so everyone developed for it, and because of that more people bought it and because of that more people developed for it. So it ended up with the biggest library of games, and if you have that many games, some of them HAVE to be good

...so where was I? Oh yes... The XBox 360??? More like the Xbox 3-SUCKS-TY!!!11one

[SLOVENIAN 8]

Goodbye, PC gaming.

:nope :nope

[SLOVENIAN 8]

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/118/927942_20050429_screen008.jpg

What game is this?? Great graphic!!! :smokin

[T Park]

^^^ Those graphics are amazing.


I cant wait, i wish I could reserve it NOW!!!

[Slomo]

You realize that it is impossible to get that sort of picture quality on a TV screen (not because of the game console but because of the limited resolution and large pixel sizw of your TV set). Except if you had a HD TV set and the console would output a HD signal - Does any console do this?

[Xolotl]

You realize that it is impossible to get that sort of picture quality on a TV screen (not because of the game console but because of the limited resolution and large pixel sizw of your TV set). Except if you had a HD TV set and the console would output a HD signal - Does any console do this?

I will buy and HD set just to achieve those graphics. I better start collecting Big Red cans now.

[maxpower]

You realize that it is impossible to get that sort of picture quality on a TV screen (not because of the game console but because of the limited resolution and large pixel sizw of your TV set). Except if you had a HD TV set and the console would output a HD signal - Does any console do this?

Ummm...yeah.
The current xbox is hi-def.

[ALVAREZ6]

Holy crap...those graphics are insane!

When the Xbox 360 comes out, I will dump my girlfriend, cus I'll be in love with something else...

[E20]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/video_game_expo

Sony Unveils New PlayStation 3 Consoles By MATT SLAGLE, AP Technology Writer
52 minutes ago



LOS ANGELES - Sony Corp (SNE.N). unveiled three flavors of its new PlayStation 3 video game machine Monday in what is likely a new round of console wars with rivals Microsoft Corp. and Nintendo Co.

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The new machine, set for release in the spring of 2006, is about the same size as the current generation PlayStation 2 but has a more rounded look. Besides black, the PS3 will be available in silver and white.

Sony officials said the PS3's new processor technology — called Cell — will offer high performance for movie-like realism in games, high-definition movies and other features.

"The PS3 is truly is a system to be placed in the center of the living room," said Ken Kutaragi, creator of the original PlayStation console as well as the more recent PlayStation Portable handheld.

Prices or a specific lineup of games that will be available were not were not provided, though Sony showed off numerous demonstrations of games in development.

The PS3 will use the Blu-ray disc format, capable of holding 50 gigabytes of information, which is about six times the capacity of existing DVDs, as well as slots for memory cards, a detachable hard drive and Bluetooth wireless for up to seven wireless controllers.

The PS3 also will be able to run the thousands of games available for the older PS2 and PS1, officials said.

One demonstration PS3 game showed a fiery battle between a soldier and a robot in an intricately detailed futuristic city. Individual tattoos and bits of blood could be seen on the warrior's face, while shafts of light beamed down from the rafters of a metallic corridor.

The announcement comes two days ahead of the Electronic Entertainment Expo, an annual industry gathering in Los Angeles.

Last week, Microsoft showcased its new Xbox 360 in a 30-minute special on MTV.

Microsoft said it would begin selling Xbox 360 in North America around Thanksgiving, and Europe and Asia by the end of the year.

No pricing details have been announced on any of the systems.

Nintendo will discuss its new console, code-named Revolution, further on Tuesday morning.

In 2004, Sony's older PlayStation 2 led the U.S. console wars with 43 percent of the market, according to Jupiter Research. The original Xbox was a distant No. 2 with 19 percent, followed by Nintendo's GameCube at 14 percent. The remainder included handheld game systems.

But by 2010, Xbox 360 would grab the lead with 38 percent of the market, followed by Sony with 32 percent and Nintendo with 22 percent, Jupiter forecasts.

Microsoft is taking an entertainment hub approach with Xbox 360.

The curvy, white machine plays DVD movies and lets users listen to music, view photos and do real-time video chats with friends and relatives around the world.

The Xbox 360 features three processors, a removable 20-gigabyte hard drive, a custom graphics chip and built-in wireless for cable-free access to the company's Xbox Live online multiplayer service.
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In the end PS3 360 PWNS!!!!!

[Duff McCartney]

I'd still take an Xbox over the Playstation.

The thing I always laughed and got rather annoyed with is how people praised the PS2 for being backwards compatible with old PS games. Come on man, give me a break...if you want to play Playstation 1 games, go bust out the Playstation, if you want new games bust out the PS2.

I think I should raise a stink to Microsoft over the Xbox 360...it has no place where I can shove my Super Mario Bros 3 cartridge so I can play the game on it.... :rolleyes

[E20]

you can play most NES/SNES/Sega games on PS2/X-Box/Cube if you want to waste a CD-R on a 5 MB file. Super Mario Bros 3 was by Nintendo not Microsoft. :rolleyes

[baseline bum]

That system has a 3-core RISC processor clocked at 3.2 GHz!?!?!

$299? Microsoft is going to be taking a huge initial hit on this system. I mean, PowerPC chips are expensive as hell (and a hell of a lot more powerful than x86 cpus like Pentium, Athlon, Athlon64, etc.) ... I don't see how they can build this system for anything even in the ballpark of $299. $299 for this setup is absolutely insane.

[E20]

The thing I always laughed and got rather annoyed with is how people praised the PS2 for being backwards compatible with old PS games. Come on man, give me a break...if you want to play Playstation 1 games, go bust out the Playstation, if you want new games bust out the PS2.

WTF!? X-BOX is promoting the same feature to Crap60. It's gonna be probably printed on every box:

Can play your X-BOX classics (if there are any) on X-BOX 360!

And seriously if you had your PS1 in your room somewhere and you had a PS2 already hooked up to the TV and wanted to play a PSX game what would the average person do?

Baseline:
They're hoping that everybody will buy at least 10 copies of every Madden game released for the 360 to make any profit. The orginal X-BOX started out with a huge defecit. For every X-BOX made it was like 10 Grand and for every X-BOX sold it was priced at 300 and the the only worthwile games were Halo,Doom3, Sports.

[Gatita]

I forgot Microsoft had money issues. Poor Bill.

[Duff McCartney]

And seriously if you had your PS1 in your room somewhere and you had a PS2 already hooked up to the TV and wanted to play a PSX game what would the average person do?

It's a waste of space and resources on the system, I didn't know the 360 was backwards compatible. If it is, then that's garbage too. Why would you want to buy a "next gen" system to play games from the last generation?

[Xolotl]

you can play most NES/SNES/Sega games on PS2/X-Box/Cube if you want to waste a CD-R on a 5 MB file. Super Mario Bros 3 was by Nintendo not Microsoft. :rolleyes

I wouldn't waste a CD on playing the games on a PS2/Xbox/Cube when you can just download the emulators and mods and play them on your PC. Thats what I do now I enjoy playing the old school games like Double Dragon. I personally think backwards compatibility is a great idea. I still play the original Resident Evil on my PS2, and E20 Halo was an instant classic for Xbox, I'm sure theres more out there I just gotta put on my thinking cap :p

[Duff McCartney]

I wouldn't waste a CD on playing the games on a PS2/Xbox/Cube when you can just download the emulators and mods and play them on your PC. Thats what I do now I enjoy playing the old school games like Double Dragon. I personally think backwards compatibility is a great idea. I still play the original Resident Evil on my PS2, and E20 Halo was an instant classic for Xbox, I'm sure theres more out there I just gotta put on my thinking cap :p

Both Baldurs Gate games are awesome games. I loved them...I spent so many hours with my cousin playing that game. I like the second one more than the first, only because you can do more things with your amulets and stuff.

[Gatita]

I wouldn't waste a CD on playing the games on a PS2/Xbox/Cube when you can just download the emulators and mods and play them on your PC. Thats what I do now I enjoy playing the old school games like Double Dragon. I personally think backwards compatibility is a great idea. I still play the original Resident Evil on my PS2, and E20 Halo was an instant classic for Xbox, I'm sure theres more out there I just gotta put on my thinking cap :p


Hola Xolotl!!

[Gatita]

Both Baldurs Gate games are awesome games. I loved them...I spent so many hours with my cousin playing that game. I like the second one more than the first, only because you can do more things with your amulets and stuff.

Me and my viejo had a great time playing baldurs gate. :)

[Xolotl]

It's a waste of space and resources on the system, I didn't know the 360 was backwards compatible. If it is, then that's garbage too. Why would you want to buy a "next gen" system to play games from the last generation?

This is where I disagree Duff. I think its great because it lets you play the old games that you love. I still own my NES just so that I can bust out Final Fantasy and kick butt like I used to do in 8 bit fashion. I mean i bet theres better graphics in a calculator than that game but dammit it's a classic.

:fro << Old school (has nothing to do with my point just wanted Afro-man)

[Xolotl]

Hola Xolotl!!

Hey Gatita thanks for the love glad to see your not chopping me down j/k :lol ...and yes Baulders Gate rocked

[Gatita]

Hey Gatita thanks for the love glad to see your not chopping me down j/k :lol ...and yes Baulders Gate rocked

Hiya Joe Dirté!!! Love the fro!!! :fro

:lol

[Xolotl]

Hiya Joe Dirté!!! Love the fro!!! :fro

:lol

Lol yes thank you for pronouncing my name correctly it's French Canadian

[Gatita]

Lol yes thank you for pronouncing my name correctly it's French Canadian


Seriously??? Only cause you are part French does it mean you love Tony?

[Xolotl]

Seriously??? Only cause you are part French does it mean you love Tony?

Damn I wish I could say yes if only to gain your admiration for 10 seconds lol but alas I am indeed Hispanic that doesnt know Spanish....or as my Grandfather calls me a coconut (such a loving family) :lol

And hey hey what do you mean about love I mean yeah I guess he could be considered...........I mean NO :p

[E20]

Well back to my point, the general populous where video games are available PlayStation is preferred.

[E20]

I just gotta put on my thinking cap
Well put it on because I can wait, so far:
Halo1/2
Doom 3, can it count?

[Duff McCartney]

I just heard on the horn that Final Fantasy is gonna be on the Xbox 360...I don't know if it's exclusive but it's gonna be on Xbox Live.

[Xolotl]

Hehe sorry to get off topic I just thought of a few off my head


Splinter Cells 1,2,3
All the Rainbow Sixes
Counter Strike(was this PS2 released also?)
Star Wars: Knights of The Old Republic

We can count Doom 3 just to help my point :p

Need to keep thinking

[Xolotl]

I just heard on the horn that Final Fantasy is gonna be on the Xbox 360...I don't know if it's exclusive but it's gonna be on Xbox Live.

Hopefully its better than Final Fantasy Online....damn that game sucked.

[baseline bum]

The original XBox's hardware was much cheaper at the time than the new XBox's will be when it's released. The chip was a 750 MHz P3 I think, with an Nvidia Ti200 graphics board, which was not considered top of the line at the time. This system is pretty freaking advanced.

That is one powerful mother. I'm going to buy one just to mod into a new computer. For $300 I'd be crazy not to (considering that there's already a GCC for PowerPC, so that I could build a linux system on it).

[Duff McCartney]

Star Wars: Knights of The Old Republic

I think that pretty much beats anything on PS2..that is a brilliant game.

[Gatita]

Damn I wish I could say yes if only to gain your admiration for 10 seconds lol but alas I am indeed Hispanic that doesnt know Spanish....or as my Grandfather calls me a coconut (such a loving family) :lol

And hey hey what do you mean about love I mean yeah I guess he could be considered...........I mean NO :p

Chiquito!!! Eres coconut!!

[Xolotl]

Chiquito!!! Eres coconut!!

Lol yes yes I am, but hey lets not celebrate it cmon :P


And Baseline has the price point been set at 300? I thought it would be cheaper since all the game companies let the consoles go for as cheap as they can and make up all the money on the game sales

[E20]

Geez, I thought to be a classic it has to be on that particular system.
You can have your coveted Splinter Cell even thought Splinter Cell 4 is supposed to Debut on the PS2/3 and your Doom 3. And nowhere have I heard that SquareEnix/Soft is gonna hand over a Final Fantasy license to X-BOX and if they did it would probably go down in flames like that FF for GameCube. And Duff StarWar Knights of the Old Republic!? :lmao Give me a break I can give you games better than that on the PSX! KOTR involved you to choose a side and talk to people and choose crappy light saber commands on your foes hardly an RPG I would continue playing and takes away the real time light saber combat fun.


I forgot Microsoft had money issues. Poor Bill.
Bill Gates money solely depends on STOCK. One mishap and he would end up like this:

http://www.html4.com/mime/jpg/Will_code_HTML_for_food.jpg

**I am no way making fun of the homless**

[SuBZer0]

'I just heard on the horn that Final Fantasy is gonna be on the Xbox 360...I don't know if it's exclusive but it's gonna be on Xbox Live."

Hahahahaha...no chance in hell

Square Eniz is Japanese, Final Fantasies will either be on Nintendo Revolution or PS3

[Xolotl]

'I just heard on the horn that Final Fantasy is gonna be on the Xbox 360...I don't know if it's exclusive but it's gonna be on Xbox Live."

Hahahahaha...no chance in hell

Square Eniz is Japanese, Final Fantasies will either be on Nintendo Revolution or PS3

There is definetely a chance that it will appear on the Xbox but I doubt exclusively.

http://www.ffshrine.org/FullStory.php?nid=67

[maxpower]

It's not exclusive but it is on 360. The main man from square enix announced it at the MS press briefing at E3 a couple hours ago.

Hahahahaha...no chance in hell

Square Eniz is Japanese, Final Fantasies will either be on Nintendo Revolution or PS3
(damn fanboys :rolleyes )http://home.hawaii.rr.com/afm/owned.jpg

This one just makes me think this is what sub looked like when it was confirmed he was incorrect.
http://yalapince.free.fr/Bonus%20BIApack/bia%20inoXX%20pics/owned%20joriss.jpg

[Duff McCartney]

See above.

[E20]

Consider it already a mediocre game. Final Fantasy's have been on the decline ever since Final Fantasy 7 came out. They couldn't match that game up to this date.

[maxpower]

Backpedal! Faster, faster.

[E20]

I don't get it.

[Xolotl]

Consider it already a mediocre game. Final Fantasy's have been on the decline ever since Final Fantasy 7 came out. They couldn't match that game up to this date.

I agree FF7 was by far one of the best. But the game has name recognition. It has millions of fans. I mean damn you got people dressing up as characters and camping in line to buy it (in Japan). As long as their being made they will continue to sell 90 billion copies worldwide.

If Nintendo was smart they would get exclusive rights to it which would never happen. That along with all the Zeldas would guarantee sales

PS. I loved Ninja Gaiden on Xbox great remake. Still thinking :lol

[E20]

Remakes don't count. :lol

http://home.hawaii.rr.com/afm/owned.jpg
:lmao Gotta love the classic MK, one kick to the chest and a gallon of blood comes out of the dudes head!

Well I'm off to play some:

DRAGONBALLZ BUDOKAI 3 ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Xolotl]

[QUOTE=E20]Remakes don't count. :lol




:lol Cmon you know that was one great game.

[E20]

Ninja Gaiden reminds me a lot of Devil May Cry.

[SuBZer0]

It's a remake...don't you get it??

Square won't waste their time making an original game for Xbox

[goliath]

The FF game announced for Xbox 360 is FFXI, the online game. It will have the same content as the PC and PS2 versions.

[Xolotl]

It's a remake...don't you get it??

Square won't waste their time making an original game for Xbox

Actually Tecmo made Ninja Gaiden not Square. And DMC and NG were similar in the fact that they both had juggle combos meters. But I dont know about the rest of it.....well both fighting demons.

The most truly original game that was also great was on the Gamecube called Pikmin, but since it was on GC nobody really played it.

[T Park]

do they have an estimated arrival time in the states??

Id like to know, Id love to go out and reserve it and a PS3 at Game Stop already.

[Xolotl]

Hey if you speak Japanese I'm sure youll be able to get it much sooner. Everything always comes out there a year before :p

[T Park]

yeah im sure, werent they saying though like this fall for the XBOX and December for the PS3?

[Xolotl]

yeah im sure, werent they saying though like this fall for the XBOX and December for the PS3?

I heard the same thing. But, I usually prefer to wait so they can clean out all the bugs. Remember how the PS2 used to come with the memory card to use the DVD player. And then I believe alot of Japanese PS2's had the dreaded Disc Read Error.

[Xolotl]

Wow just noticed theres been over 100 posts on this topic. Im soooo glad to know I'm not the only nerd on this site. :nerd

[E20]

Well TPark, The 360 is set to release 3Q of 2005(FALL) so you can probably have a chance to reserve it around mid summer. PS3 is supposed to come out 1Q of 2006(spring).

[Xolotl]

Well TPark, The 360 is set to release 3Q of 2005(FALL) so you can probably have a chance to reserve it around mid summer. PS3 is supposed to come out 1Q of 2006(spring).

I just remember hearing that Xbox wants the release before the PS2 they believe that the reason they lost the last console war was because PS2 came out first. Which can be made a valid argument. But as you have stated E20 I think Xbox was/is seen as inferior in people's eyes. So I dont know if the earlier release date will help.

[Slomo]

Ummm...yeah.
The current xbox is hi-def.
I did not know that. Is it only an HD output (regular graphics output to HD) or does it generate real HD graphics (different resolutions for HD and SD)?

[maxpower]

Depends on the programming...but majority of developers have 720p or 1080i.

[Slomo]

Depends on the programming...but majority of developers have 720p or 1080i.
nice!

Well that, Discovery channel HD theatre and HD NBA games are the best reasons to own an HD TV :)