shouldve went to ginobili

[spursfan05]

fuck you

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Watch yourself, Tpark will be along to tell you to shut the fuck up, even though you're right.

[gregpschneid]

tim should have passed back to manu, but that was a good look by duncan!!!

[E20]

He was of by an inch or two.

[Walton Buys Off Me]

If Ginobili's nuts hadn't shrivelled up on the FT line, then we might have won the game.

Ball should have went to Robert Horry, period.

[Tres_Till_it_MHz]

Sure they shoulda passed it around the horn with only 2.9...WTF??? It was Tims shot he's gotta make it.

[Nikos]

If Ginobili's nuts hadn't shrivelled up on the FT line, then we might have won the game.

Ball should have went to Robert Horry, period.

Didnt Ginobili get the off rebound to get those fts? Better than Duncan putting up soft shit or getting fouled.

[Walton Buys Off Me]

Why Pop thinks Duncan is a clutch shot maker is beyond me.

There's a guy on our team named Robert Horry that was BORN for those kind of situations.

[spursfan05]

if duncans nuts didnt shrivled up and ginobili wasnt still comming off the bench like some chump we wouldve won the game.

[Dre_7]

Ball should have went to Robert Horry, period.

Yeah. I agree. Up 2-0 on the road, go for the win!

Horry has been there many times. Shoulda shot a three.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Pop started the play off right by passing it into Duncan, but it should have been Ginobili cutting to the line for a feed from Duncan for the winner.

Duncan still has no lift on his shots, and with the white gorilla on his back I don't know what the fuck Pop was thinking.

Well, I know. Same shit he's thought in this situation for the last 6 years, with largely the same results.

[Walton Buys Off Me]

Anyways should have, could have, would have........we lost, end of story.

Sonics will get roasted in game four.

A little challenge never hurt anyone.

Everyone needs to just shake it off- including us fans.

[1Parker1]

What a crazy, weird game:

1) Spurs go 18-32 at the FT line---with MANU of all people missing clutch FTs!
2) Tim Duncan misses game winning shot with a clear look
3) Jerome James goes 7-7 from the field---ALL DUNKS!

[Obstructed_View]

Jesus you are a bunch of old women. It was a good look to me. I'll take Duncan getting a shot like that at the end of a game anytime.

[Golffgod99]

Pathetic free throw shooting..Parker makes me sick when he is at the line..Duncan choked on that shot..5 footer came up short.how weak..CONGRATS to BOWEN..incredible defensive effort..WASTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dre_7]

Yeah. I agree. Up 2-0 on the road, go for the win!

Horry has been there many times. Shoulda shot a three.

Were we only down 1? Thought it was 2?

[romsho]

Yall are crazy... that was an excellent look for Duncan at the end, it just didn't go- don't act like he's never beat the buzzer. I will take that look every time at the end of the game. One point loss, fourteen missed free throws- they will be back in a big way on sunday. Seattle aint shit.

[Dre_7]

Nevermind, good final play. We were only down by 1. Dont know why I thought it was 2. Hmmm, I think I am lossing it.

Need more sleeop!

[Nikos]

Jesus you are a bunch of old women. It was a good look to me. I'll take Duncan getting a shot like that at the end of a game anytime.

That shot was weak. Barely hit the rim. Either that or it was way off target, and it looked it on the release.

[texbumTHElife]

With all due respect to big shot Rob, he did have a chance only 20 28 seconds earlier to give us the lead and bricked it.

[Dre_7]

Good point tex, but what better way to make up for it then hitting the winner.

Also, I dont think it was a bad play by Tim. I thought that his last shot in the 0.4 game was a bad play, but it went in. If Tims shot tonight goes in, we win, or tie (wtheck was the score?!?!?!?! :lol).

[Tom_Foolery]

I agree. Giving it to Duncan was such a huge risk that shouldn't have been taken considering Duncan's 4th quarter play. It was mediocre at best. He really was rattled.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

SHUT UP people, yall dont know shit

Duncan had a perfectly good look, he had perfectly good lift, it was a perfectly good play

noone was at fault here

it just didnt go in

just stop whining, we'll be back on sunday and we will win

you people forget that we as a team blow ass at last possessions, at least we got a shot off this time, not only that but it was a GOOD LOOK.

it just didnt go in

we can live with that.....sunday people, recognize

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Yall are crazy... that was an excellent look for Duncan at the end, it just didn't go- don't act like he's never beat the buzzer.

You're crazy. The shot before that he hit the side of the backboard.

And I can count the number of times Tim has won a game for us at the buzzer in the playoffs on one finger. I can't count the number of times Pop has pissed the game away by going to him.

That shot was weak. Ball should have been in Manu's hands.



he had perfectly good lift,

No, he didn't. He barely got off the ground, and barely got front rim.

BTW, you don't think that Vitaly would have fouled Duncan if he made a stronger move to the bucket? That play was high reward, little risk.

[goliath]

It was a good shot.

Coulda, shoulda, woulda....

If he would have passed it off everyone would be complaining about how he passed a short shot in the paint.

[Tek_XX]

it was a good look but the shot wasn't close, bricked on the rim but i guess we should be happy we got a shot...even though no one is for good reason.

People in here want to talk about how seattle ain't shit but guess who just picked up confidence and momentum, spurs lost more than just this game. It's going to be a tough game 4 for the spurs

[Tres_Till_it_MHz]

I agree. Giving it to Duncan was such a huge risk that shouldn't have been taken considering Duncan's 4th quarter play. It was mediocre at best. He really was rattled.

WTF?? Tim has made those shots time after time. Shit like that happens, this is Tims team, he deserved the shot and got a good look it just didn't fall. There will be another day, sheesh is the bandwagon losing it wheels?

[spursfan05]

come on a big men should never be taking the last shot. its goes to a your swing man or someone who can hit a 3. everyone fucking knows this

[milkyway21]

fuck youand ginobili shld have made ALL those crucial FTs

stop all the blaming!

The Spurs suck tonight. Period! :angel

[Cant_Be_Faded]

the shot was on you guys stfu

it was just short

you cant expect duncan to hit that every time

i garuntee in 85 out of 100 parallel universes duncan hit that shot, but there has to be 15 of those universes in which duncan misses and unfortunately we are experiencing one of those fifteen

oh well

we're still going to stomp this lame ass team to the ground....

OwNaGe 2005 recognize biatch

[Obstructed_View]

God some of you guys are scorchingly stupid. "Don't go to the hall of famer with two MVPs and two rings. He sucks."

Horry couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat in the second half. Manu was too much of a pussy to go to the hole in the final three quarters of the game. Why would you expect him to do it at the end of the game when he didn't do it any other time? Duncan had good position and will make that shot more often than not. He was the only one being aggressive and the only one getting shots.

[ShoogarBear]

And I can count the number of times Tim has won a game for us at the buzzer in the playoffs on one finger.

As opposed to the countless times Manu has won a game for us at the buzzer?

[Nikos]

Only shot Manu would have made was a floater if he got enough space. If he took a fadeaway or jumper, he would have barely grazed rim.

[ca®lo]

it was a good look.. im not gonna complain. it didnt go in. thats all.

end of the story. now on to the next game! cant wait for the spurs to kick their ass!!!!!

[Nikos]

God some of you guys are scorchingly stupid. "Don't go to the hall of famer with two MVPs and two rings. He sucks."

Horry couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat in the second half. Manu was too much of a pussy to go to the hole in the final three quarters of the game. Why would you expect him to do it at the end of the game when he didn't do it any other time? Duncan had good position and will make that shot more often than not. He was the only one being aggressive and the only one getting shots.

Ginobili did take it to the basket on one play, and he got fouled in the face by James.

[wildbill2u]

All our stars missed some free throws in the 4th. And we missed some shots where we had decent looks, but after all the mugging Seattle gave us, we were only one behind at the end and could have won if Tim makes that little shot he's so good at at the end.

We can still make this series a rout with a good win in the next game.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Ok so far Obstructed View and Shoogar Bear are with me

everyone else seems like they're peeing in their fucking overalls

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Why are we peeing in our overalls? Because we disagree with you? Talk about a lame take...

Look, I'll take Manu on the last play of the game. He's a lot more likely to either get the bucket or get fouled, go the lane and nut up for two free throws than a hobbling Tim Duncan who got the shit beat out of him all night by Fortson, James, Evans, Collison, and Potapenko.

Tim has a proven history of being completely worn out at the end of games where he gets beat on like tonight. And the first thing to go is his FT shooting, followed closely by any resemblance of a vertical.

I know all about Tim's credentials, thank you. I've also watched him enough to know when he's worn out at the end of games. Tonight was one of those nights.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Why are we peeing in our overalls? Because we disagree with you? Talk about a lame take...

Look, I'll take Manu on the last play of the game. He's a lot more likely to either get the bucket or get fouled, go the lane and nut up for two free throws than a hobbling Tim Duncan who got the shit beat out of him all night by Fortson, James, Evans, Collison, and Potapenko.

Tim has a proven history of being completely worn out at the end of games where he gets beat on like tonight. And the first thing to go is his FT shooting, followed closely by any resemblance of a vertical.

I know all about Tim's credentials, thank you. I've also watched him enough to know when he's worn out at the end of games. Tonight was one of those nights.


tell me one game this season in which we have used a last possession opportunity to go for A FOUL (AND received that foul call) and i will seriously research into it and prove you wrong

just tell me the exact game ahf

[Tom_Foolery]

I'm not saying it was a bad shot, but Duncan was shooting horribly in the 4th and couldn't hit a FT, so it was very possible that if he got any closer, they would've fouled Duncan and made him go to the line to win it.

I personally tonight would not want Duncan taking those FTs to win the game. He probably would've missed both the way he was playing.

[T Park]

there was 2.9 left,

you go to your best player, no brainer.

He makes it, its a great play, he misses it, its pop's fault, obviously.

[spursfan05]

there was 2.9 left,

you go to your best player, no brainer.

He makes it, its a great play, he misses it, its pop's fault, obviously.

WRONG u go to ur best shooter aka most clutch player aka manu ginobili

END OF DISCUSSION

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Tpark, does


Tim Duncan who got the shit beat out of him all night by Fortson, James, Evans, Collison, and Potapenko.

Tim has a proven history of being completely worn out at the end of games where he gets beat on like tonight. And the first thing to go is his FT shooting, followed closely by any resemblance of a vertical.

Even register with you? Fuck man, read.

[Obstructed_View]

Wow. The respect for the defense of Vitaly Potapenko in this forum staggers me...

:)

[romsho]

[QUOTE=Aggie Hoopsfan]You're crazy. The shot before that he hit the side of the backboard.

And I can count the number of times Tim has won a game for us at the buzzer in the playoffs on one finger. I can't count the number of times Pop has pissed the game away by going to him.

Nice reasoning. How many games come down to the buzzer in the playoffs? Not many. Tim Duncan-Mvp, perennial All-Star Two time NBA champion and the unquestioned leader of the franchise...I'm guessing there aren't too many analysts or professionals who cover the game who would agree with your expert assessment of the last 2.9 seconds. But what does anyone else know? You are a dude on a message board who studies this shit. Good for you.

[T Park]

Even register with you? Fuck man, read.

why read,

I already knew what youd posted before i even turned on the computer.


1. pop fucked up

2, duncan getting the last shot is stupid

3 we need a FT coach pronto



spursfan,

when Manu Ginobili, becomes the best player on the team, then you go to him, till then,

Duncan is the Chise, you go to your CHISE, just like Seattle went to Allen at the end.


Its common fuckin sense.

[T Park]

The respect for the defense of Vitaly Potapenko in this forum staggers me...

shouldn't pop have known he was drawing up a play for the chise, going up against the white Bruce bowen???

FIRE HIM!!!

[Obstructed_View]

there was 2.9 left,

you go to your best player, no brainer.

He makes it, its a great play, he misses it, its pop's fault, obviously.
LOL. That's awesome!

[Obstructed_View]

shouldn't pop have known he was drawing up a play for the chise, going up against the white Bruce bowen???

FIRE HIM!!!

ROFLMAO. Yeah. I'm sure Pop was thinking, "oh, hell. Duncan's going to get this one swatted.", especially after that two handed incredible hulk style foul by Potapenko in the first half.

Oh, dude you are killing me. I can't stop laughing. :)

[T Park]

you can woulda shoulda coulda all you want.

99 out of 100 people will say, hey, your down 1, give it to your best player.

Its one of those if it goes down, yay and whew, if not, fire the coach.


2.9 is pretty quick for an inbound then for the inbounder to run and grab and get a solid jumper.


Horry had Rashard Lewis on him on the perimiter so his open shot was gone.

[MadDog73]

Why Pop thinks Duncan is a clutch shot maker is beyond me.

There's a guy on our team named Robert Horry that was BORN for those kind of situations.


Yeah, right, we only needed a two!

It was the right call. Tim didn't quite get it in. If your star player can't make that play, who do you expect?

As for clutch, he would be the Ultimate Clutch with that insane shot from Game 5 vs the Lakers last year, but thanks to a peon named D. George, nobody seems to remember it....

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Pop's such a bonehead for calling a play for the franchise player i denounce my silvernblack

[T Park]

Horry couldve got it, Ginobili, Barry.

Fact is, they went to the chise.


it missed.

end of discussion, move on to game 4 and 5.

[ShoogarBear]

there was 2.9 left,

you go to your best player, no brainer.

He makes it, its a great play, he misses it, its pop's fault, obviously. Word.

Not only that, it wasn't a fadeaway. Until that ball hit the rim, everyone in the Key Arena was about to shit bricks.

[rayray2k8]

there was 2.9 left,

you go to your best player, no brainer.

He makes it, its a great play, he misses it, its pop's fault, obviously.

it just comes down to that, man.. Sometimes i think
spurs fans think more with their hearts than with their heads..
its always a popularity contest with most spurs fans, and OF COURSE
people would of went with manu, cuz everyone LOVES him :rolleyes
give me a fucking break!
You always go with the guy who your best player and the guy
whos won you 2 NBA championships and has come through for you
when you needed him the most...
Not always, like tonight, but shit i guess hes only freaking human.
and dont give me this bullshit about manu coming through
for us in the clutch since he MISSED a crucial freethorw, when
we needed it the most.. but im not blaming it on him..
missed free-throws came back to bite him in the rear in the end..
period

[spursfan05]

it just comes down to that, man.. Sometimes i think
spurs fans think more with their hearts than with their heads..
its always a popularity contest with most spurs fans, and OF COURSE
people would of went with manu, cuz everyone LOVES him :rolleyes
give me a fucking break!
You always go with the guy who your best player and the guy
whos won you 2 NBA championships and has come through for you
when you needed him the most...
Not always, like tonight, but shit i guess hes only freaking human.
and dont give me this bullshit about manu coming through
for us in the clutch since he MISSED a crucial freethorw, when
we needed it the most.. but im not blaming it on him..
missed free-throws came back to bite him in the rear in the end..
period

i disagree 100%. tim duncan is not this teams most clutch player. that doesnt mean hes not the best player but when hes not feeling it he aint just gonna magically turn it on and hit a game winner. hes too mental. you need someone fearless like ginobili taking the last shot in a game like this

[Obstructed_View]

Word.

Not only that, it wasn't a fadeaway. Until that ball hit the rim, everyone in the Key Arena was about to shit bricks.
Yeah, ask any Sonics fan if he was happy with the look they let the Spurs get at the end of that game. Funny how people take a guy like Tim Duncan for granted.

[Obstructed_View]

i disagree 100%. tim duncan is not this teams most clutch player. that doesnt mean hes not the best player but when hes not feeling it he aint just gonna magically turn it on and hit a game winner. hes too mental. you need someone fearless like ginobili taking the last shot in a game like this
If Manu is so fearless how come he stopped penetrating?

[Oscar DeLa]

I don't know what it is, but....

When duncan misses a shot he normally makes

people whine!

[T Park]

Until that ball hit the rim, everyone in the Key Arena was about to shit bricks.

I thought it was in.

He got off the ground his usual 4 inches, had a good look, it was just short.

Had the game been friday night instead of tonight??

It probobly goes in.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

If Manu is so fearless how come he stopped penetrating?


probably bc he feared a broken bone

[Obstructed_View]

probably bc he feared a broken bone
Then he isn't very fearless, is he? He also missed a free throw with 29 seconds left. Let's face it; there wasn't anyone playing clutch wearing black tonight except for number 12.

I just watched that last play again, and the only one on the team that was open for a jumper was Barry in the corner. Neither Horry nor Manu spotted up. Instead both went to the basket and their dfenders collapsed on Duncan, who pivoted away from a triple team to get off a damn good shot. Therefore those of you that thought Horry or Ginobili should have gotten the last shot are completely stupid. Anybody that would rather have Barry shoot a three, please speak up now.

[milkyway21]

how people had easily forgotten Duncan's clutch shots in 2003. e.g. last season game vs. Utah over Malone.

And Manu's lost ball turnover in a Denver game when Duncan didn't play bec. of injury.

Hello!!!!

it''s over...

Manu or Duncan w/ ALL THOSE MISSED FTs = LOSS

BTW, i just want you to take a peek on Spurs' Stars numbers tonight;

Duncan 23pts;11rbds;1 asst;1 TO; 4 blocks
Manu 18pts; 6rbs; 2 asst; 3 TO; 1 stl.
Parker 18pts;5 rbds; 8 assts; 2 TO; 1 stl.

Nazr's 7 pts; 3 rbds.only could be the difference
...besides the Spurs' missed FTs'

TIM DUNCAN IS STILL THE BEST PLAYER. Stats-wise.