Is it bad that i never have or will give a crap about Natalie Halloway?

[Trainwreck2100]

This vandersloot shit brought it all back, thanks to the sensationalist bullshit the MSM likes to run. I mean bitch goes missing cause she decides to whore it up in aruba and im supposed to care.?

[4>0rings]

Yeah she deserved to die. Your anger at being bothered by a broadcast in which you could change the channel is legitimate.

[lebomb]

This vandersloot shit brought it all back, thanks to the sensationalist bullshit the MSM likes to run. I mean bitch goes missing cause she decides to whore it up in aruba and im supposed to care.?


Looking at your signature and the title of your thread............you are a Van der sloot in disguise. It appears you dont give a shit about women anyhow. :rolleyes

[MaNuMaNiAc]

This vandersloot shit brought it all back, thanks to the sensationalist bullshit the MSM likes to run. I mean bitch goes missing cause she decides to whore it up in aruba and im supposed to care.?

I'm thoroughly confused as to what you think you are accomplishing by posting something as stupid as this. Do you think you're somehow cool because you make insensitive, incredibly innapropriate posts about shit like this and act like you don't give a crap what anybody thinks? If so, its pretty fucking transparent.

[JudynTX]

You must care, you started a thread about her. :)

[Trainwreck2100]

Yeah she deserved to die. Your anger at being bothered by a broadcast in which you could change the channel is legitimate.

Son it shows who we are as a country when there's a giant environmental and economic disaster, and some girl's murder in peru makes the lead. ITS SOUTH FUCKING AMERICA bitches get offed there all the time. I didn't say she deserved to die, but its the risk you take when you decide to skank around outside your country, with a guy you just met at a bar.


Looking at your signature and the title of your thread............you are a Van der sloot in disguise. It appears you dont give a shit about women anyhow. :rolleyes

Yes im vandersloot in disguise i got away from the authorities and am posting here. I see the art of effective sarcasm is not taught at UTSA cause that shit was week.

[Trainwreck2100]

You must care, you started a thread about her. :)

No i don't care, but im tired of seeing it.

[manufan10]

No i don't care, but im tired of seeing it.

You're tired of seeing it, yet you made a thread talking about her. Yeah, that makes sense! :lol

[Trainwreck2100]

You're tired of seeing it, yet you made a thread talking about her. Yeah, that makes sense! :lol

Yes, because i am in the minority and i'd like my voice to be heard.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Son it shows who we are as a country when there's a giant environmental and economic disaster, and some girl's murder in peru makes the lead. ITS SOUTH FUCKING AMERICA bitches get offed there all the time. I didn't say she deserved to die, but its the risk you take when you decide to skank around outside your country, with a guy you just met at a bar.


The girl from Peru was no skank. She was attending a Poker tournament in the same hotel, which is where she met van der sloot. She did nothing wrong, as I'm sure neither did Natalie Holloway. you implying a girl deserved to get murdered because she liked having fun and because you can't be bothered by the news of her death is just... well, moronic.

Ofcourse, I'm fairly certain this is your lame attempt at trolling. Have fun

[Wild Cobra]

This vandersloot shit brought it all back, thanks to the sensationalist bullshit the MSM likes to run. I mean bitch goes missing cause she decides to whore it up in aruba and im supposed to care.?
We know that's your excuse. We know you are in favor of brutal abuse of women, you video in your signature tells me you approve of such things.
Your title: "Is it bad that i never have or will give a crap about Natalie Halloway?" just falls in line with your obvious need to have physical control over women.

[Trainwreck2100]

The girl from Peru was no skank. She was attending a Poker tournament in the same hotel, which is where she met van der sloot. She did nothing wrong, as I'm sure neither did Natalie Holloway. you implying a girl deserved to get murdered because she liked having fun and because you can't be bothered by the news of her death is just... well, moronic.

Ofcourse, I'm fairly certain this is your lame attempt at trolling. Have fun

Nowhere did i call her a skank i said she was skanking around, if you have a better word for fucking a guy you just met id like to hear it. Also once again i never said she deserved to die i said its a risk you take. Saying she deserved to die is like saying someone who gets into a car accident deserves to die. Did they deserve to die? No. Accidents are a risk you take when you are on the road. Getting offed is a risk you take when you whore it up, that's why so many whores get offed.

[thispego]

I'm not overly concerned with the girls in these cases because they obviously made bad dcisions that contributed to their ultimate demise. But I'd be lying if I said I wasn't sitting on the edge of my seat waiting to see how this van der sloot bitch ends up going out. :toast

[Trainwreck2100]

We know that's your excuse. We know you are in favor of brutal abuse of women, you video in your signature tells me you approve of such things.
Your title: "Is it bad that i never have or will give a crap about Natalie Halloway?" just falls in line with your obvious need to have physical control over women.

son its in my sig cause its hilarious and believe me the lols outnumber the scoffs.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I'm not overly concerned with the girls in these cases because they obviously made bad dcisions that contributed to their ultimate demise. But I'd be lying if I said I wasn't sitting on the edge of my seat waiting to see how this van der sloot bitch ends up going out. :cheers

I don't understand how the fuck people arrive at the conclusion that these girls were in some way "asking for it"...

[bus driver]

its not bad that you dont care, its your god given right. say something bad happens to you, i wouldnt care either. but to start a thread about it is stupid. if you want to start killing off whore you should start with attention whores

[manufan10]

i don't understand how the fuck people arrive at the conclusion that these girls were in some way "asking for it"...

+1

[thispego]

I don't understand how the fuck people arrive at the conclusion that these girls were in some way "asking for it"...

Have you not learned since you were a child that you don't go off with strangers? Not to mention these girls were drinking and even less capable of defending themselves than if they were sober. Plus it sounds like van der sloot likes to use date rape drugs. Haven't you ever heard that you're not supposed to accept drinks from strangers?

[Trainwreck2100]

I don't understand how the fuck people arrive at the conclusion that these girls were in some way "asking for it"...

is a sky diver asking for it when his chute don't open? No did his decisions factor into his demise? Yes

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Have you not learned since you were a child that you don't go off with strangers? Not to mention these girls were drinking and even less capable of defending themselves than if they were sober. Plus it sounds like van der sloot likes to use date rape drugs. Haven't you ever heard that you're not supposed to accept drinks from strangers?

First of all, these weren't girls they were women. The Peruvian chick was 22. She met a guy she liked and made the decision to go up to his room. That's not being a whore, that's called being a normal human being. What the hell is wrong with people labeling women whores just because they enjoy having sex as much as the next person??

[MaNuMaNiAc]

is a sky diver asking for it when his chute don't open? No did his decisions factor into his demise? Yes

Its not even remotely the same thing, but you know that.

[thispego]

First of all, these weren't girls they were women. The Peruvian chick was 22. She met a guy she liked and made the decision to go up to his room. That's not being a whore, that's called being a normal human being. What the hell is wrong with people labeling women whores just because they enjoy having sex as much as the next person??

:lmao 22 is still a kid, dumbfuck, but that's beside the point. If you are fucking a stranger the very first night you meet them, then I am sorry, but that makes you a whore. Maybe she doesn't do that all the time, but that night (if she was even conscious enough to make the decision to go to his room with him. Maybe she was so fucked up on rufees that he told her he was taking her to her own room so she could sleep and she didn't know any better.) but if you make a conscious decision, man or woman, to fuck a stranger the night you meet them, that makes you an easy whore. It's not about enjoying or not enjoying sex. It's about being responsible for your own saftey and well being.

[Trainwreck2100]

Its not even remotely the same thing, but you know that.

jumping out of plane is very similar to fucking guy you just met actually.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

man, I honestly feel sorry for your daughters...

[mrsmaalox]

Strange, he must watching Peruvian tv. That story has not been the lead at all---still the oil spill. I was hoping to get an update on the story after the oil spill, but I keep getting Blagoevich or whatever his name is.

[thispego]

man, I honestly feel sorry for your daughters...

ROFL your daughter is the one that's going to turn up pregnant and diseased at 15 because you're encouraging her to fuck any random dude that catches her fancy. I HONESTLY feel sorry for your daughter.

[Trainwreck2100]

Strange, he must watching Peruvian tv. That story has not been the lead at all---still the oil spill. I was hoping to get an update on the story after the oil spill, but I keep getting Blagoevich or whatever his name is.

were you watching cnn @ 9am? Then stfu and act like you know

[Trainwreck2100]

man, I honestly feel sorry for your daughters...

jumping out of plane has one of three consequences death, you get really fucked up, or fun

fucking some stranger has one sometimes 2 of three consequences death, you get really fucked up, or fun

now stfu and act like you know

[austN Spur]

my wife was talking about this natalie chick the other day while i was watcing a movie. I was like trainwreck, like I give a shit. She was sad that i didnt care to hear her chat about how sad this is. thats why i watch telemundo they dont spend 30 hrs on a white girl

my gf is a white girl:lmao

[hater]

who the fuck is natalie halloway?

[koriwhat]

who the fuck is natalie halloway?

who the fuck cares?!

[lebomb]

Oh no..............noone talking whore shit in here about these girls has done anything remotely wrong or dangerous. We have ALL done stupid shit......and if you are saying you havent. You are a fuggin liar!!! These girls didnt deserve to die whether they went off with this guy or not. He is a psycho path. He came across as a nice guy to these women and snowed them. Lord knows none of you guys have been snowed by anyone before. :rolleyes

[Trainwreck2100]

Oh no..............noone talking whore shit in here about these girls has done anything remotely wrong or dangerous. We have ALL done stupid shit......and if you are saying you havent. You are a fuggin liar!!! These girls didnt deserve to die whether they went off with this guy or not. He is a psycho path. He came across as a nice guy to these women and snowed them. Lord knows none of you guys have been snowed by anyone before. :rolleyes

nobody is saying they deserved to die. Also psychopath is one word UTSA

[BadOdor]

lol Natalie halloway.

[Spurminator]

I don't care either, but given what news has become, this qualifies as a moderately newsworthy story. At least until Britney Spears shaves her head again.

[Sisk]

You must care, you started a thread about her. :)


You're tired of seeing it, yet you made a thread talking about her. Yeah, that makes sense! :lol

:lol

[Dude]

Dude has Trainwreck as his user name and you all are surprised? :lmao

[Bukefal]

I don't understand how the fuck people arrive at the conclusion that these girls were in some way "asking for it"...

Exactly. They didnt do anything wrong, its not about them. Its about Joran. van der Sloot is a sick kid, fucked up in his head.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Not at all, TW.

Caring is overrated.

[thispego]

Exactly. They didnt do anything wrong, its not about them. Its about Joran. van der Sloot is a sick kid, fucked up in his head.

They each did at least one thing wrong that I can think of :lol

[EmptyMan]

NH put herself in that situation.

But damn it feels good that the p.o.s. finally got caught. It is wild to see the hotel tapes knowing what is about to go down.

[DesignatedT]

ROFL your daughter is the one that's going to turn up pregnant and diseased at 15 because you're encouraging her to fuck any random dude that catches her fancy. I HONESTLY feel sorry for your daughter.

:lmao

[Trainwreck2100]

I don't understand how people understand that we arrived at the conclusion that they were "asking for it"

[marini martini]

I don't understand how people understand that we arrived at the conclusion that they were "asking for it"

Isn't one of your personalities missing Morrey "who's your daddy" Povich????:lmao

[Trainwreck2100]

Isn't one of your personalities missing Morrey "who's your daddy" Povich????:lmao
i have no idea what you are saying, but when i say "we" I mean me and prego, and anyone that has the thought process that some fault lies on the women

[marini martini]

Then say "you & prego"!!! WTF??? People sure get brain farts a lot around here!!!

[bigzak25]

This vandersloot shit brought it all back, thanks to the sensationalist bullshit the MSM likes to run. I mean bitch goes missing cause she decides to whore it up in aruba and im supposed to care.?


you can choose to care about whatever you like, just like the rest of the people in the world.


that being said, what do you care about Trainwreck?


QUESTION.

[ploto]

While I have no interest in being lumped in with the OP, I do get frustrated at the excessive coverage by the media of individual cases- usually of rich white girls- while tons of other women are missing, raped, or murdered all over the country.

I was flipping through the channels yesterday or the day before and Oprah was talking about Elizabeth Smart. She was kidnapped in 2002 and found in 2003, and yet this is still a pressing story to talk to the kids of the woman involved in the case?

[balli]

I mean bitch goes missing cause she decides to whore it up in aruba and im supposed to care.?
:tu

I'm not even reading the rest of the thread. It's sad and all or whatever, but shit, you play with fire...

[The Reckoning]

moral of the story: dont go after people who want to be professional poker players.

[Stringer_Bell]

Strange, he must watching Peruvian tv. That story has not been the lead at all---still the oil spill. I was hoping to get an update on the story after the oil spill, but I keep getting Blagoevich or whatever his name is.

Watch CNN, Headline News, and Fox News...Greta and Nancy Grace are the best!

I'm really apalled that anyone would hold Natalie Holloway responsible for her own fate. She was drunk, on a school sponsored trip, with her friends around, and 3 foreign guys giving her attention. Surely, some of you have been abroad and met attractive women and thought it was a good idea to fuck them on your last night in town.

Have some empathy, you would have done the same thing she did! :ihit

[Trainwreck2100]

Watch CNN, Headline News, and Fox News...Greta and Nancy Grace are the best!

I'm really apalled that anyone would hold Natalie Holloway responsible for her own fate. She was drunk, on a school sponsored trip, with her friends around, and 3 foreign guys giving her attention. Surely, some of you have been abroad and met attractive women and thought it was a good idea to fuck them on your last night in town.

Have some empathy, you would have done the same thing she did! :ihit
Bitch can't rape you though, if i said "no don't" to to hot foreign chick that would make me a fag and i wouldn't have gone to her room anyway.

[SASPURS09]

When u are that young you should not be allowed to go to dangerous countries. Her mom is part to blame for letting her go there.

[lebomb]

nobody is saying they deserved to die. Also psychopath is one word UTSA


You didnt start your first sentence with a capital letter, and didnt end your comment with a period...........dumbshit.......... doesnt even matter where you went to elementary school. See how stupid your comment was? :rolleyes

[Trainwreck2100]

You didnt start your first sentence with a capital letter, and didnt end your comment with a period...........dumbshit.......... doesnt even matter where you went to elementary school. See how stupid your comment was? :rolleyes

You thought psychopath was 2 words what you described was a crazy road. You can't take a crazy road into your hotel room

[marini martini]

You thought psychopath was 2 words what you described was a crazy road. You can't take a crazy road into your hotel room

Good arguement!!! I lol'd!!!:toast

[DarkReign]

Bad decisions lead to bad outcomes.

News @ 11 for the dumb and liberal.

[Trainwreck2100]

so many on my side

[bigzak25]

when you put your self in a self-pleasure seeking environment, you must identify and accept the risk that you are taking, as you are associating with all kinds of people that are looking to get theirs, so to speak.

these are places where one must be on high alert.

when you then stack the deck further against yourself by adding alcohol to the equation, impairing your decision making ability, as well as your motor skills if done in excess, (which is often the case, as that is often the point of going to these places), you are being very unwise.

the most cunning predators are stalking these places out just waiting for their opportunity to pounce on their prey.

would anyone here care to walk with their pants down through a general population corridor of a prison with the cells unlocked?


i'd hope we all agree that that would be most unwise.

Of course these poor women didn't want this. And of course they didn't ask for this or bring it upon themselves. But their tragic and...sadly fatal flaw was that they were unprepared for the environment they chose to be in.


This is much different than if someone was kidnapped, raped, or murdered by someone who stalked them in their daily lives, where their guard would naturally be down, and waited for their moment to strike.

hopefully all mothers, daughters, fathers, and sons learn from these tragedies, lest their deaths be in vain...

[Trainwreck2100]

when you put your self in a self-pleasure seeking environment, you must identify and accept the risk that you are taking, as you are associating with all kinds of people that are looking to get theirs, so to speak.

these are places where one must be on high alert.

when you then stack the deck further against yourself by adding alcohol to the equation, impairing your decision making ability, as well as your motor skills if done in excess, (which is often the case, as that is often the point of going to these places), you are being very unwise.

the most cunning predators are stalking these places out just waiting for their opportunity to pounce on their prey.

would anyone here care to walk with their pants down through a general population corridor of a prison with the cells unlocked?


i'd hope we all agree that that would be most unwise.

Of course these poor women didn't want this. And of course they didn't ask for this or bring it upon themselves. But their tragic and...sadly fatal flaw was that they were unprepared for the environment they chose to be in.


This is much different than if someone was kidnapped, raped, or murdered by someone who stalked them in their daily lives, where their guard would naturally be down, and waited for their moment to strike.

hopefully all mothers, daughters, fathers, and sons learn from these tragedies, lest their deaths be in vain...

watch it, you might be thought of as heartless

[Sisk]

when you put your self in a self-pleasure seeking environment, you must identify and accept the risk that you are taking, as you are associating with all kinds of people that are looking to get theirs, so to speak.

these are places where one must be on high alert.

when you then stack the deck further against yourself by adding alcohol to the equation, impairing your decision making ability, as well as your motor skills if done in excess, (which is often the case, as that is often the point of going to these places), you are being very unwise.

the most cunning predators are stalking these places out just waiting for their opportunity to pounce on their prey.

would anyone here care to walk with their pants down through a general population corridor of a prison with the cells unlocked?


i'd hope we all agree that that would be most unwise.

Of course these poor women didn't want this. And of course they didn't ask for this or bring it upon themselves. But their tragic and...sadly fatal flaw was that they were unprepared for the environment they chose to be in.


This is much different than if someone was kidnapped, raped, or murdered by someone who stalked them in their daily lives, where their guard would naturally be down, and waited for their moment to strike.

hopefully all mothers, daughters, fathers, and sons learn from these tragedies, lest their deaths be in vain...

:tu

[Wild Cobra]

jumping out of plane is very similar to fucking guy you just met actually.
Why do you assume they were fucking? When you're staying at a hotel, a room is for more than just sleeping and fucking.

[Trainwreck2100]

Why do you assume they were fucking? When you're staying at a hotel, a room is for more than just sleeping and fucking.

yeah cause you take a girl to your hotel room to compare pog collections, that's what they were doing comparing pog collections

[Cant_Be_Faded]

This vandersloot shit brought it all back, thanks to the sensationalist bullshit the MSM likes to run. I mean bitch goes missing cause she decides to whore it up in aruba and im supposed to care.?

I'm with you brah. If she was hanging out with someone of his ilk then she knew what she was getting into. Fuck her.

[Wild Cobra]

I'm with you brah. If she was hanging out with someone of his ilk then she knew what she was getting into. Fuck her.
Well, to be that means you guys have limited minds.

Think outside the box...

[koriwhat]

Well, to be that means you guys have limited minds.

Think outside the box...

why exactly, please tell?

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Fuck Natalee Holloway. Regardless of any of the circumstances of anything regarding this story, fuck her. People die every day, people get killed every day. People in america get killed every day.

She was used as a media tool to distract all the marriotts of this country from the bigger issues. And most of you ate it up like hungry stupid animals. It was a stupid story from the start.

An intelligent person would not have given a shit. There were countless more important stories going on while we were getting swamped with Natalee coverage 24/7 for like a year straight.

[koriwhat]

Fuck Natalee Holloway. Regardless of any of the circumstances of anything regarding this story, fuck her. People die every day, people get killed every day. People in america get killed every day.

She was used as a media tool to distract all the marriotts of this country from the bigger issues. And most of you ate it up like hungry stupid animals. It was a stupid story from the start.

An intelligent person would not have given a shit. There were countless more important stories going on while we were getting swamped with Natalee coverage 24/7 for like a year straight.

:toast

[Stringer_Bell]

Well, to be that means you guys have limited minds.

Think outside the box...

Can you please tell us what that might consist of?

All I see is typical cock hungry teens getting killed by typical pussy hungry teens...it's elementary my dear Watson!

I bet the Peru girl tried to pry too hard into his private stuff trying to be a detective and became another victim. Chances are, if you hang out with a suspected murderer and constant liar...you may be killed or lied to by that person. Just sayin'.

[balli]

Fuck Natalee Holloway. Regardless of any of the circumstances of anything regarding this story, fuck her. People die every day, people get killed every day. People in america get killed every day.

She was used as a media tool to distract all the marriotts of this country from the bigger issues. And most of you ate it up like hungry stupid animals. It was a stupid story from the start.

An intelligent person would not have given a shit. There were countless more important stories going on while we were getting swamped with Natalee coverage 24/7 for like a year straight.
Straight up. She could have been perfectly innocent and I'd go, 'sad, but she doesn't deserve this coverage.'

The fact that she was a drunken teen whore, partying in a third world country, makes me want to say exactly what you said, fuck Natalie Holloway.

[jack sommerset]

All that coverage probably saved alot of women from that killer.

[Trainwreck2100]

All that coverage probably saved alot of women from that killer.

not being a drunk skank probably saved alot of women from lotsa psychos

[CuckingFunt]

There seem to be two distinct arguments being made in this thread.

The first of which I agree with. The amount of coverage dedicated to this particular story, and the nature of that coverage, is something that I find not only annoying, but quite troubling. It says a lot about who we as a society value as important, indicates that we still see certain losses as more tragic than others, is extremely exploitative, and caters to a morbid blood lust that I think is better served by works of fiction.

Where I disagree, just as emphatically as I agree with the first argument, is in the victim blaming bullshit also present within this thread. It's a dangerous strategy designed specifically to take the focus away from the fact that Natalee Holloway is dead because a fucked up person did a fucked up thing and murdered her. Wearing a short skirt isn't asking to be raped. Deciding to fuck someone isn't asking to be killed. Ever.

Of course the reality of the situation is that people aren't always trustworthy and it is important for women (everyone) to be cautious. I'd never argue otherwise. But pushing the issue aside with a shrug and a "she shouldn't have..." ensures nothing is ever going to change by accepting male violence as unavoidable and something that we should just learn to live with. When, in reality, if self control and respect became as important to our concept of masculinity as violence and impulsiveness are now, perhaps we (women) would no longer have to adjust our behavior or style of dress to compensate for someone else's mental instability.

[thispego]

CUckingfunt you fucking cunt! No one in this thread ever said she "was asking for it"

[CuckingFunt]

CUckingfunt you fucking cunt! No one in this thread ever said she "was asking for it"

Perhaps no one has said those exact words, but the sentiment is all over the place.

[Trainwreck2100]

I know nobody here is saying she deserved it or was asking for it the detractors are just pulling a fox news and posing their allusions as facts

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

As for the question at hand, I will say that yes it is a bad thing. You're a respected member of this on line community and there are a lot of impressionable young minds that take their cue from you. Do you really want the next generation of Spurstalkers to not care about dead pretty people?

[koriwhat]

she was asking for it. haha

[Phillip]

calf tats

[thispego]

Perhaps no one has said those exact words, but the sentiment is all over the place.

Sex is a very intimate and personal endeavor. Men and women choose to share that experience with strangers all the time. There is a short list of possible outcomes that can result: satisfaction ( I got laid that was awesome), regret (I can not believe I slept with that person, goddamn I was sodrunk), STD (oh shit, my junk itches), death (I decided to share one of the most intimate human experiences with a complete stranger who I didn't know for more than a few hours and it turns out they were psychotic, oops I guess I should have gotten to know them better before rendering myself completely vulnerable to them. Now I'm dead. Whoops!)

[mrsmaalox]

Sex is a very intimate and personal endeavor. Men and women choose to share that experience with strangers all the time. There is a short list of possible outcomes that can result: satisfaction ( I got laid that was awesome), regret (I can not believe I slept with that person, goddamn I was sodrunk), STD (oh shit, my junk itches), death (I decided to share one of the most intimate human experiences with a complete stranger who I didn't know for more than a few hours and it turns out they were psychotic, oops I guess I should have gotten to know them better before rendering myself completely vulnerable to them. Now I'm dead. Whoops!)

Thisp, I agree with all these points. But, you are assuming, in this case, that Natalie Holloway made the decision to have sex with him. This hasn't been proven. Maybe she agreed to have a drink, maybe she agreed to take a walk on the beach, who knows? And maybe after that, used her best judgement and did not agree to have sex with him and that is the reason she ended up dead.

[Trainwreck2100]

As for the question at hand, I will say that yes it is a bad thing. You're a respected member of this on line community and there are a lot of impressionable young minds that take their cue from you. Do you really want the next generation of Spurstalkers to not care about dead pretty people?

son pretty people die all the time, a nature of the beast

[lebomb]

death (I decided to share one of the most intimate human experiences with a complete stranger who I didn't know for more than a few hours and it turns out they were psychotic, oops I guess I should have gotten to know them better before rendering myself completely vulnerable to them. Now I'm dead. Whoops!)


If the person is already dead, how in the fuck could they say this??? :rolleyes

[Spurminator]

Friends gather to mourn Lake Worth High student, 17; suspect, 19, charged in death (http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/crime/authorities-charge-man-19authorities-charge-man-19-with-first-degree-murder-726616.html)

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/multimedia/dynamic/00455/Marcus_Perry_455512k.jpg

Marcus J. Perry was charged with first-degree murder today in the death of Amanda Lee DeJesus, who was standing in a crowd outside El Toro Loco 2 at 1999 S. Military Trail when she was fatally wounded about 1:45 a.m.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/multimedia/dynamic/00456/vigil_456230e.jpg
Damon Higgins/Palm Beach Post

Hundreds of people, mostly high school students, showed up to Lake Worth Beach Friday evening to pay their respects to Amanda Lee DeJesus who was fatally wounded early Friday morning during a drive-by shooting outside a West Palm Beach nightspot.

By Michael LaForgia (http://www.palmbeachpost.com/services/staff/michael-laforgia-contact-information-articles-and-rss-feed-429930.html) and Julius Whigham II (http://www.palmbeachpost.com/services/staff/julius-whigham-ii-346993.html)
Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Updated: 12:54 p.m. Saturday, June 5, 2010
Posted: 5:25 a.m. Friday, June 4, 2010

As her junior year at Lake Worth High School came to a close, Amanda Lee DeJesus went out to celebrate with her friends. But early today she died in an apparent random shooting in the El Toro Loco nightclub parking lot.

DeJesus, 17, was standing in a crowd about 1:45 a.m. outside the suburban West Palm Beach club at 1999 S. Military Trail when she was fatally wounded.

Tonight nearly 200 stunned friends and classmates gathered for a candlelight memorial at the Lake Worth Municipal Beach. Friends remembered her as an outgoing personality who loved sports and played on the school's girls soccer and flag football teams.

"She was a really sweet young girl who was really just starting to find her way as a student, as an athlete and as a woman," said Rich Dujon, the flag football coach and a teacher at Lake Worth High.

"She was caring, she always lent a helping hand to anyone in need," said Alicia Astemborski, a Lake Worth senior-to-be and a flag football teammate of DeJesus'. "You wouldn't think she'd be the one of all people. She was never rude. She was very friendly."

One person was arrested today in her death, and the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office is looking for three or four more suspects.

Marcus J. Perry, 19, of Royal Palm Beach, was charged with first-degree murder today, the Sheriff's Office reported.

Hours after the shooting, which led to a police chase into Lake Worth and an exchange of gunfire between deputies and at least one armed man, Perry went to the Sheriff's Office headquarters to talk to detectives.
He told them he picked up four other men to cruise for women. As they drove to the nightclub in his parents' sport utility vehicle, he said, one of the men handed him a pistol and he squeezed off two rounds on Interstate 95, according to a sworn statement for Perry's arrest by Detective Matthew Williams.

Inside the club, Perry told detectives, he and the men got into a confrontation with other men. As they went outside and walked toward the SUV, another man, not he, pulled the handgun and fired off several rounds, Perry said.

Witnesses said a man pulled a gun and fired several times into the air and at least once into the crowd, felling DeJesus with a wound to the chest, Williams said.

After speaking to Perry, detectives called on a witness who identified Perry as the gunman, Williams said.

He was taken into custody and booked into the Palm Beach County Jail.
Acting on a tip, sheriff's investigators seeking three to four other men in the killing used a SWAT team to raid a house near Orleans Court Friday afternoon but found the place empty, a spokeswoman said.

The search for the men continues.

As nightfall approached, a mostly silent group gathered at the beach and lit candles to remember Amanda.

Cecile Sims, a rising senior at Lake Worth, said that DeJesus was one of the first people to introduce herself during the girls' freshman year.

"She was just an all-around person," Sims said. "She was always caring, always worrying about other people."

Lake Worth High Principal Ian Saltzman, who was reached at home, said he spoke with Amanda's mother today and sent his prayers.

"It's very tragic. I was very distraught over it this morning," he said. "My interactions with her were very positive."

At the vigil, Lake Worth High athletic director Seth Groveman said that DeJesus was looking forward to many things in her senior year.

"Next year was going to be her year," he said. "She was going to be the star. She was going to be one of the stars of soccer, one of the stars of flag football. She had her grades in order. Everything was on track and that it makes it much harder to take, When you see somebody really getting it together and maturing."

Staff Writers Sonja Isger and Emily Roach contributed to this report.

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[thispego]

Thisp, I agree with all these points. But, you are assuming, in this case, that Natalie Holloway made the decision to have sex with him. This hasn't been proven. Maybe she agreed to have a drink, maybe she agreed to take a walk on the beach, who knows? And maybe after that, used her best judgement and did not agree to have sex with him and that is the reason she ended up dead.

That was more in response to posters (cf, manumaniac) endorsing the 'fuck strangers' approach to sex. But I agree, vandersloot would have probably had no reason to kill these girls if they had consented to sex.

[Wild Cobra]

CUckingfunt you fucking cunt! No one in this thread ever said she "was asking for it"
Haven't you noticed the implication?

[mrsmaalox]

That was more in response to posters (cf, manumaniac) endorsing the 'fuck strangers' approach to sex. But I agree, vandersloot would have probably had no reason to kill these girls if they had consented to sex.

:dizzy.......okaaay ;)

[thispego]

Haven't you noticed the implication?

I've noticed the rephrasing of those implications. You can take the posts here to mean whatever you want but no one is saying what you say is being said

[DarkReign]

Again, bad decisions can and do lead to bad outcomes.

Going to the motel room of a person you just met is a bad decision. It doesnt mean you will die and it certainly doesnt mean you "deserve" to die because you do it.

BUT...

Dont weep for a person who makes a universally bad decision and it turns out to be their final, life-ending decision.

Does her bad decision absolve Vanderdouche of any blame whatsoever? Fuck no, guy should burn for his crimes, no question.

But his predatory nature does not absolve the victim of horrible decision-making.

Here is a thought. If neither one of these chicks went back to the hotel room of a complete and utter stranger, they'd probably both be alive. Murderous psychopath avoided by the small act of not opening your legs to every Tom, Dick and Harry with a foreign accent and bullshit tales of semi-royalty.

[Vici]

For what it is worth I also do not give a shit. I have known too many people who have died in war and from disease to care about some random rich whore who made bad decisions in Aruba.

[balli]

As far as the whole 'deserving it' thing goes-

You know why I don't go to third world countries to party and fuck? Because I'm afraid something bad might happen to me if I go to an impoverished nation to participate in risky behavior, with risky people. And I'm a man, age 26, with an anger problem.

So no, she didn't deserve getting murdered, but I'm sure as shit not going to weep for or celebrate the death and life of someone who participated in something far more sinful, selfish and risky than I'd be willing to participate in myself. My resentment is furthermore piqued by such a person being treated as if she were America's only sweetheart, robbed from all of us far too soon.

Did she deserve to die? Hell no. But at the end of the day, that doesn't mean she wasn't just some dime-a-dozen, two-bit slut who should've died into total obscurity.

[Trainwreck2100]

what's really sad is having to explain to these women how we are saying she didn't deserve to die

[hater]

If natalie halloway was black, noone would be talking about this at all....

[Al Sharpton]

If natalie halloway was black, noone would be talking about this at all....

Oh, they'd hear from me!!

[Trainwreck2100]

if natalie halloway was black or ugly, noone would be talking about this at all....

fify

[Stringer_Bell]

If natalie halloway was black, noone would be talking about this at all....

I think the reason she got so much coverage was...

1) lots of our white boys and girls like to travel to exotic islands for a good time, meaning it could happen to anyone's white friends
2) her body was not found
3) it was so obvious that the kid is a crazy sociopath that has had his life protected due to his father's standing in the community, it repulsed everyone into watching it unfold
4) potential for sharks having eaten the body

[thispego]

:lmao