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LnGrrrR
06-10-2010, 04:52 PM
http://www.politico.com/blogs/joshgerstein/0610/ACLU_chief_disgusted_with_Obama.html?showall



"There was a discussion this morning, and there has been generally in progressive circles, about expectations that have not been met. I made the point that expectations were high because the president set expectations very high," Romero said.
Asked why he's so animated now, Romero said: "It’s 18 months and, if not now, when? ... Guantanamo is still not closed. Military commissions are still a mess. The administration still uses state secrets to shield themselves from litigation. There's no prosecution for criminal acts of the Bush administration. Surveillance powers put in place under the Patriot Act have been renewed. If there has been change in the civil liberties context, I frankly don't see it."


Pretty much sums it up.

LnGrrrR
06-10-2010, 05:09 PM
Oh and to add to the cake, let's make sure to prosecute whistleblowers!

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/05/25/whistleblowers


Hence, we have a series of aggressive prosecutions from the Obama administration of Bush era exposures of abuse and illegality -- acts that flagrantly violate Obama's Look Forward, Not Backward decree used to protect high-level Bush administration criminals. As John Cole has suggested, perhaps if these whistleblowers had tortured some people and illegally eavesdropped on others, they would receive the immunity that Obama has so magnanimously and selectively granted. Instead, they merely exposed secret government corruption and illegality to the world, and thus must be punished.

Winehole23
06-10-2010, 05:11 PM
Obama is a wily establishmentarian, not some wild-eyed commie.

Yonivore
06-10-2010, 05:12 PM
http://www.politico.com/blogs/joshgerstein/0610/ACLU_chief_disgusted_with_Obama.html?showall

Pretty much sums it up.

:lmao

Out of curiosity, did he say to what crimes he was referring?

Winehole23
06-10-2010, 05:12 PM
Continuity not change, is the motif.

LnGrrrR
06-10-2010, 05:16 PM
:lmao

Out of curiosity, did he say to what crimes he was referring?

No comment on the overall stance of the piece?

Yonivore
06-10-2010, 05:21 PM
No comment on the overall stance of the piece?
Color me incurious about anything the ACLU says about Obama. I was just wondering if he happened to identify any laws he alleges the Bush administration violated.

Winehole23
06-10-2010, 05:28 PM
Color me incurious about anything the ACLU says about Obama.It bores you that the ACLU says Obama sucks on civil liberties. So noted, Yoni.