San Antonio Highlands hs valedictorian ;;;harvard student needs to be DEPORTED

[ALWAYS bet on BLACK]

http://media.mysanantonio.com/images/ericbalderas20100611.jpg

2009 graduate and valedictorian of SAN ANTONIO HIGHLANDS HIGH SCHOOL.

GOT a scholarship to HARVARD

was here in AMERICA illegally since he was a babyyyy

this dude needs to be deported asap along with his theiven' family.

why is it so gotdamned hard to understand that you need to follow proper legal procedure to live in the USA?

good dude im sure, but he needs to get the fuck out of AMERICA and if he wants back in, he needs to follow the proper procedures.


http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/highlands_valedictorian_could_face_deportation_961 91974.html

[ploto]

I am trying to figure out how he enrolled in college without a Social Security Number or documentation of registering for selective service. If instead he actually told Harvard he was not a US citizen, would not they require his student Visa if he was using a Mexican passport as his form of ID?

[MaNuMaNiAc]

:lol I get why people don't want illegal immigration, but you would think this dude is the sort of illegal immigration you would want. This kid wants to be american and excels at the everything that matters. I'd say make a law that makes illegal immigration a crime UNLESS you make it to an IVY league university :lol Then you can stay.

[La Migra]

I'm on it

[ashbeeigh]

Its just like filing taxes. You get an ITIN. He's probably had it since he moved here.

Not to mention, a lot of times schools don't ask for SSNs. The only reason they would need one is to file for your financial aid (yes I realize he was going there based on receiving a scholarship...conundrum...dum dum dum)....

Here's some info:

http://school.familyeducation.com/college-prep/immigration/40911.html

[BruceBowenFan]

Damn, i was a class graduate of the 07 class. Dude seemed like a nice guy. Never suspected that he was here illegally.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Illegal = that which is not legal.

And he wants to go to harvard :lol

[Sense]

God, not this bullshit again.... and by this I mean by the posters.

Clearly the guy needs to get a green card.... technically the kid did nothing wrong, it's the parents who were at fault.


He deserves it... that's for sure.

[FromWayDowntown]

God, not this bullshit again.... and by this I mean by the posters.

Clearly the guy needs to get a green card.... technically the kid did nothing wrong, it's the parents who were at fault.


He deserves it... that's for sure.

Clearly, the best policy here is to punish achievement by holding strong to technical compliance with administrative paperwork requirements.

It would seem to me that an acceptable solution would allow him to apply now for citizenship (if he wants to) or for a visa and continue with his education. But why try to find sensible solutions and allow a kid to better himself when we can stand hard on a policy and make an example here!!

[FromWayDowntown]

Illegal = that which is not legal.

And he wants to go to harvard :lol

He actually has completed his first year at Harvard.

[CubanMustGo]

Such a surprise that "ALWAYS bet on BLACK" sees everything in absolute black or white. This member of the Highlands class of 1977 says get his congressman to do something useful and let the kid stay in the country legally.

Those of you afraid of him because his ass is smarter than any of your kids (or you) can go jump in the lake.

[Dr. Gonzo]

If they are going to start sending all Mexicans back to Mexico it's about time we send all the white people back to Europe. They are the original illegal aliens. Bastards committed genocide and they claim this land as theirs.

[Mavs_man_41]

If they are going to start sending all Mexicans back to Mexico it's about time we send all the white people back to Europe. They are the original illegal aliens. Bastards committed genocide and they claim this land as theirs.

Don't use that crutch as your justification for being here beaner boy. The white man made America what it is today, before it was just a wildnerness with natives running around in tee pees. Without the white man, you'd have no great country to mooch off of. And I'm not white for what it's worth.

[ididnotnothat]

Don't use that crutch as your justification for being here beaner boy. The white man made America what it is today, before it was just a wildnerness with natives running around in tee pees. Without the white man, you'd have no great country to mooch off of. And I'm not white for what it's worth.

If it wasn't for the natives the whites would not have survived. And if it wasn't for the blacks volunteering during the Civil War this country would not be what it is today.

[Sec24Row7]

If it wasn't for the natives the whites would not have survived. And if it wasn't for the blacks volunteering during the Civil War this country would not be what it is today.

Oh Jesus Christ... read a history book.

[ShoogarBear]

Illegal = that which is not legal.

And he wants to go to harvard :lol


He actually has completed his first year at Harvard.

Maybe we should keep him and deport the people that can't read.

[ShoogarBear]

Don't use that crutch as your justification for being here beaner boy. The white man made America what it is today, before it was just a wildnerness with natives running around in tee pees. Without the white man, you'd have no great country to mooch off of. And I'm not white for what it's worth.

Yeah, and that "illegal" Mexican kid is doubtless going to do more to make America "what is it" than 99% of the posters in this thread.

[ShoogarBear]

Oh Jesus Christ... read a history book.

Preferably one of the ones that have gotten rid of Thomas Jefferson, right?

[Sec24Row7]

Preferably one of the ones that have gotten rid of Thomas Jefferson, right?

Not that I agreed with that decision... but you obviously read about 3 lines deep in that story.

Where... pray tell... did a history book teach you that had the pilgrims not survived the first winter.... or the second... or the third that they would have stopped coming from Europe...

How much willing help did the Spanish need?

And Blacks volunteering to serve in the Civil War turing the tide? HAHAHAHHAHA... give me a fucking break...

I mean... if you would have said Irish... and indentured... I would agree with you... but blacks? Minimal impact at best... especially since they served on both sides rather evenly.

[Stringer_Bell]

Considering he's acheived so much and appears to be goal oriented, I'd say we let him stay. The other illegal chick story sounded like bullshit and was really shady considering all the financial aid and stuff she got. This kid's on scholarship, right? He earned it on his own merit. I'm not saying he should get away with being illegal, he should work it off...but it's stupid to kick a smart person out of the country when they can be used to the advantage of our communities. :)

[RoddyBukkake]

after that wetback piece of shit gets deported he should be forced to pay back the $120,000 or so dollars that the San Antonio school district and tax payers spent on his K-12 education

[NASCARdad]

after that wetback piece of shit gets deported he should be forced to pay back the $120,000 or so dollars that the san antonio school district and tax payers spent on his k-12 education

+1

[Sec24Row7]

Considering he's acheived so much and appears to be goal oriented, I'd say we let him stay. The other illegal chick story sounded like bullshit and was really shady considering all the financial aid and stuff she got. This kid's on scholarship, right? He earned it on his own merit. I'm not saying he should get away with being illegal, he should work it off...but it's stupid to kick a smart person out of the country when they can be used to the advantage of our communities. :)

He's accepted to harvard... he can get a student visa and then a work visa and work towards citizenship the right way...

[ploto]

He's accepted to harvard... he can get a student visa and then a work visa and work towards citizenship the right way...

From Ash's link above:

...What usually happens is that once a person is accepted into the university, the office sends him an I-20 form to have processed at the consulate office in his native country. This will help the student get a visa. However, if the student is already in the United States illegally, he isn't eligible for this visa.

[Sec24Row7]

From Ash's link above:

...What usually happens is that once a person is accepted into the university, the office sends him an I-20 form to have processed at the consulate office in his native country. This will help the student get a visa. However, if the student is already in the United States illegally, he isn't eligible for this visa.

Well then I guess he has to do something else... Harvard will work with him... they want the publicity for his plight as much as he wants the education.

[Vici]

Yeah, and that "illegal" Mexican kid is doubtless going to do more to make America "what is it" than 99% of the posters in this thread.

"What is it"? Seriously?

[howbouthemspurs]

Many illegal immigrants get accepted to college! I say if they are contributing to society, paying taxes, supporting the community, supporting the economy, not committing serious crimes, fuck it! let them stay!

[CubanMustGo]

"What is it"? Seriously?

Mocking an error in typing because you can't frame a coherent argument to support your point of view? Seriously?

[howbouthemspurs]

Mocking an error in typing because you can't frame a coherent argument to support your point of view? Seriously?

lol!:toast

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Maybe we should keep him and deport the people that can't read.

Didn't bother to click link. I'm afraid to ask what his major is or was.

[ALWAYS bet on BLACK]

after that wetback piece of shit gets deported he should be forced to pay back the $120,000 or so dollars that the San Antonio school district and tax payers spent on his K-12 education
agreed 100%.

get the fuck out of America. I am sick of these fucking thieves stealing. God damned Mexicans.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

agreed 100%.

get the fuck out of America. I am sick of these fucking thieves stealing. God damned Mexicans.

All illegals are mexicans? Hmm. Who knew.

[spursfan09]

If hes smart of enough to get into Harvard, he should have been smart enough to realize that he needs the right the documentation to be here.

[Mavs_man_41]

Yeah, and that "illegal" Mexican kid is doubtless going to do more to make America "what is it" than 99% of the posters in this thread.

Where did I say he should be deported? He's lived here his entire life and gone this long without anyone saying anything, it's not his fault his parents are idiots.

[Goran Dragic]

The government simply needs to pick and chose when they decide whether or not an illegal should be deported. You can say it's mean to only accept the illegals who have something to contribute to this country, but that's just how it goes, and that's how it always has gone. Ellis Island wasn't something anyone could get through during the European immigration waives in the early 1900's, immigrants had to check in there for a reason. If the government knew someone had a criminal history in their old country that person woulda been turned around real quick.

So yeah, in this case, the kid should be able to stay, and it only makes sense his family should stay. Yes there are self-motivated kids who don't need their parents for anything but the guy's parents obviously place some value on education, work ethic and improving yourself if they raised a valedictorian who got accepted to Harvard. In this case, these are illegals who truly went to America in search of a better life for their family.

[Goran Dragic]

If hes smart of enough to get into Harvard, he should have been smart enough to realize that he needs the right the documentation to be here.


Yes, I'm sure when he was a baby being smuggled into America in his mother's arms, he knowingly made the decision to be an undocumented illegal.

lol dumb bull dyke

[mookie2001]

Sorrry señor

[ploto]

Yes, I'm sure when he was a baby being smuggled into America in his mother's arms, he knowingly made the decision to be an undocumented illegal.

If he were still a child, I would agree with you, but the day he turned 18, he became responsible for the choices he made. He knowingly registered at a US college without the proper authorization to do so. He had to know the day might come when he would be caught.

[Trainwreck2100]

you know what's super hilarous, i'd bet the only reason he was detained at the airport was that nobody believed his ass went to Harvard

[spursfan09]

Yes, I'm sure when he was a baby being smuggled into America in his mother's arms, he knowingly made the decision to be an undocumented illegal.

lol dumb bull dyke

So wait this kid never thought to find out what hospital he was born in here in America? Wanted to see his birth certificate? I mean hello.

[spursfan09]

Like that conversation never came up. Gives me the feeling that it did and he just didn't say anything after a while

[Trainwreck2100]

i feel bad for whoever the salutorian of his class was, robbed of being valedictorian by somebody there illegally

[Trainwreck2100]

Like that conversation never came up. Gives me the feeling that it did and he just didn't say anything after a while

did you read the article, he had a mexican passport, he had to get it from somewhere

[spursfan09]

Well all I'm saying is that, its a shame that he knew this could be a possiblity and he didn't take action. I really do hope everything works out for him. I mean he should stay, but the article makes a good point that it encourages other illegal parents to do the same. Hopefully they won't make an example out of him.

[Wild Cobra]

Many illegal immigrants get accepted to college! I say if they are contributing to society, paying taxes, supporting the community, supporting the economy, not committing serious crimes, fuck it! let them stay!
How can you pay taxes as an illegal, and not being guilty of identity theft, or a similar crime related to using a SS number that's not theirs?

Did you know there are people, victims of such thefts of SS numbers that are now expected to prove they didn't have earn incomes that affect them in one way or another?

This is not a victimless crime, in several ways.

[Trainwreck2100]

Well all I'm saying is that, its a shame that he knew this could be a possiblity and he didn't take action. I really do hope everything works out for him. I mean he should stay, but the article makes a good point that it encourages other illegal parents to do the same. Hopefully they won't make an example out of him.

he couldn't do anything, he could only apply for a visa if he wasn't here illegally to begin with

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

If he were still a child, I would agree with you, but the day he turned 18, he became responsible for the choices he made.


:lmao the day he turned 18 he became responsible for what happened when he was a baby? What the hell do you want him to do, live the life he's always lived, or say, "Gee, I better move back to the country I haven't lived in for 15 years and take responsibility for my actions."

[Mixability]

Damn, that sucks. I still think he should've worked this out BEFORE hand. What a story it would have been if he wouldve graduated Harvard and then this came to light?

[Bender]

Cesar Millan (the dog whisperer) was also an illegal (I read his book). Not sure if he came over as a kid with his parents, or as an adult. Another example of "illegal immigrant makes good".

[bus driver]

there are hundreds of people who go through the process correctly every year, so should he get a free pass because his parents are idiots and dont want to follow the rules? fuck no, send his ass back with his parents. oh and where is the poll?

[ploto]

:lmao the day he turned 18 he became responsible for what happened when he was a baby?

No, as I said, as an adult he chose to enroll in a US college without either US citizenship or a student Visa, and he alone is responsible for that choice.

[Wild Cobra]

Cesar Millan (the dog whisperer) was also an illegal (I read his book). Not sure if he came over as a kid with his parents, or as an adult. Another example of "illegal immigrant makes good".
Nobody is saying that illegals can't make it good. This is the land of opportunity, and they know it. Too many born here have forgotten that. We now have immigration laws that need to be respected, else why not just violate any law we don't like?

Sometimes sad things happen. Actually more often than not. Shouldn't those who complete the legal process of immigration be admired more?

[Wild Cobra]

No, as I said, as an adult he chose to enroll in a US college without either US citizenship or a student Visa, and he alone is responsible for that choice.
I want to know the harm done to the owner of the stolen Social security number. how else did he complete the paperwork?

[FromWayDowntown]

Sometimes sad things happen. Actually more often than not. Shouldn't those who complete the legal process of immigration be admired more?

Are you saying that this kid should have gone down to INS at age 4 to fill out the appropriate immigration paperwork?

It's patently ridiculous to me to punish a kid who is technically in violation of the law because his parents chose to break the law, particularly where the child has worked his tail off to do things that many in this country (those who are here citizens, those who are here legally, and those who are not here legally) can only aspire to accomplish. It's one thing to say that we're going to enforce the law; it's something else to say that the law is absolute and without exception -- whether those exceptions are pragmatic or purely legal (or both).

Rather than punishing this kid, wouldn't a better example in this instance involve having him apply for the requisite visa in some quite public fashion? There's no punishment for a kid who's really done nothing wrong -- and who's done a great deal right -- and you still get the same public spectacle to establish the virtues of legal immigration.

But that would undoubtedly not be a political victory for those who so vehemently oppose illegal immigration and whose primary commerce is divisiveness.

[FromWayDowntown]

I want to know the harm done to the owner of the stolen Social security number. how else did he complete the paperwork?

Nice assumption. You didn't even ask a question in getting to that one.

[Trainwreck2100]

Are you saying that this kid should have gone down to INS at age 4 to fill out the appropriate immigration paperwork?

It's patently ridiculous to me to punish a kid who is technically in violation of the law because his parents chose to break the law, particularly where the child has worked his tail off to do things that many in this country (those who are here citizens, those who are here legally, and those who are not here legally) can only aspire to accomplish. It's one thing to say that we're going to enforce the law; it's something else to say that the law is absolute and without exception -- whether those exceptions are pragmatic or purely legal (or both).

Rather than punishing this kid, wouldn't a better example in this instance involve having him apply for the requisite visa in some quite public fashion? There's no punishment for a kid who's really done nothing wrong -- and who's done a great deal right -- and you still get the same public spectacle to establish the virtues of legal immigration.

But that would undoubtedly not be a political victory for those who so vehemently oppose illegal immigration and whose primary commerce is divisiveness.
he's not technically in violation of the law when he was here illegally and he knew it. He's smart enough to go to Harvard but not smart enough to keep ahold of his passport

[ploto]

There's no punishment for a kid who's really done nothing wrong...
While you criticize another poster for his assumption that he has done something wrong, how can you be so sure he has not?

We still have no answer as to how he enrolled in college and secured a scholarship without a SSN or Student Visa.

[Wild Cobra]

Nice assumption. You didn't even ask a question in getting to that one.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but to get scholarships and apply for college, you need to give them your social security number.

Am I wrong?

[Wild Cobra]

Are you saying that this kid should have gone down to INS at age 4 to fill out the appropriate immigration paperwork?

It's patently ridiculous to me to punish a kid who is technically in violation of the law because his parents chose to break the law, particularly where the child has worked his tail off to do things that many in this country (those who are here citizens, those who are here legally, and those who are not here legally) can only aspire to accomplish. It's one thing to say that we're going to enforce the law; it's something else to say that the law is absolute and without exception -- whether those exceptions are pragmatic or purely legal (or both).

Rather than punishing this kid, wouldn't a better example in this instance involve having him apply for the requisite visa in some quite public fashion? There's no punishment for a kid who's really done nothing wrong -- and who's done a great deal right -- and you still get the same public spectacle to establish the virtues of legal immigration.

But that would undoubtedly not be a political victory for those who so vehemently oppose illegal immigration and whose primary commerce is divisiveness.
See this post (http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4414053&postcount=21):


He probably could. There are immigration previsions that would keep most who entered illegally from being eligible, but you can always work an exception to policy. Since he was a child, and the the crime wasn't his, I can see him easily getting a student visa.
I'm not strictly hard on him continuing college here. This is a possibility, unless he knowingly used someone's SS number.

[Kori Ellis]

His parents could have bought a fake social security card for him early on, and he always used that number.

He could have had an ITIN and just used that on the forms in place of a social security number. (Illegals can get an ITIN and pay taxes .. most people wouldn't notice it's not a SS#).

There's usually a box that says, "Are you a US Citizen?" on college apps, etc. I'm assuming he just lied and said "Yes," right? Well he knew he wasn't a citizen, and no matter what a do-gooder he is, you can't just flat out lie on stuff like that.

If he really wanted to go to college, he could have gone back to his country and applied for a student visa; found an employer to sponsor him and get employment authorization; or contacted an immigration attorney to finagle a way to get some sort of temporary authorization to be in the country while working on obtaining citizenship.

It's hard to feel sorry for the guy - even though I'm sure he's a good kid - unless he actually believed he was born in America.

[ALWAYS bet on BLACK]

Big ups to Kori Ellis on her stand on this.
Get this motherfucker legal and then go to Harvard.
Im sure this Mexican is a good guy, he just needs to get legal before
he
starts an American education.








FollOw
RuLes.



Be smart, Mexicans.

[ploto]

Immigration officials are currently not pursuing deportation proceedings against Highlands High School graduate Eric Balderas, an unauthorized immigrant from Mexico who's been thrust into the national spotlight in the wake of pending legislation that could help secure citizenship for students like him.

News that his case had been deferred came late Friday, less than two weeks after Balderas, 19, was stopped at the San Antonio International Airport prior to taking a flight to Boston, where he just finished his freshman year at Harvard University.

Shortly after learning the news, Balderas expressed relief in a public Facebook message: “I am rejoicing in my heart.”

It was a sharp turn of events and emotion for the Ivy League student, who said he had contemplated suicide as he sat in the San Antonio offices of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, wondering if the life he had built for himself in his adopted country was about to come crashing down...

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/san_antonio_grad_wont_be_deported_96719879.html

I am trying to feel for the guy but threatening suicide causes me not to...

[spursfan09]

Suicide? Geesh!

[Biernutz]

This guy is a illegal but he manged to make it to Harvard. How many others have tried and failed. I have to give big kudos to him on hitting the books and doing the work to earn what he got . Congrats on getting a free ride to the best. He is the type of new immigrants America needs. Why did he need to fly back to school. Do you think he would make it back to school if he drove or hitchhiked back? As long as he didn't drive threw the evil republic of Arizona he would have made it back to school with no drama. Keep a low profile and make the grades and get the sheep skin. But Nooooooo he had to listen to his liberal buddy's and make an issue of his illegal status. His so called friends at Harvard screwed him to come out but they got their agenda taken care. He is on his way out of the country deported but with a nice photo opp.
Congrats to the taxpayers of the SAISD who put another illegal thru school. I wish Eric was a legal American but it is what it is. Everyone loses here but it looks like his friends at Harvard got what they wanted. This sucks!

[CubanMustGo]

This guy is a illegal but he manged to make it to Harvard. How many others have tried and failed. I have to give big kudos to him on hitting the books and doing the work to earn what he got . Congrats on getting a free ride to the best. He is the type of new immigrants America needs. Why did he need to fly back to school. Do you think he would make it back to school if he drove or hitchhiked back? As long as he didn't drive threw the evil republic of Arizona he would have made it back to school with no drama. Keep a low profile and make the grades and get the sheep skin. But Nooooooo he had to listen to his liberal buddy's and make an issue of his illegal status. His so called friends at Harvard screwed him to come out but they got their agenda taken care. He is on his way out of the country deported but with a nice photo opp.
Congrats to the taxpayers of the SAISD who put another illegal thru school. I wish Eric was a legal American but it is what it is. Everyone loses here but it looks like his friends at Harvard got what they wanted. This sucks!


So full of fail:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37798055

BOSTON - An undocumented Harvard University student is no longer facing deportation to Mexico after being detained nearly two weeks ago by immigration authorities at a Texas airport, officials said.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said late Friday that they would not pursue the deportation of Eric Balderas. The 19-year-old was detained in June after he tried to use a university ID card to board a plane from San Antonio to Boston.

Mario Rodas, a friend of Balderas, said Balderas was granted deferred action, which can be used to halt deportation based on the merits of a case. Rodas said Balderas learned the news Saturday morning from his lawyer.

"He's very excited and ready to live a normal life," Rodas said. "He's ready to move forward."

Rodas said Balderas will be applying for a United States work permit and will keep trying to get permanent immigration status. He said that Balderas' lawyers have advised him not to comment while the case is pending.

Balderas, who previously had used a Mexican passport to board planes but recently lost it, told The Associated Press that he became despondent and thought he was being deported to Mexico immediately after he was detained June 7. But he was released the next day.

According to a Facebook page set up to highlight his case, Balderas was brought to the U.S. from Mexico by his family at age 4. He said he doesn't remember living in Mexico.

He's studying molecular and cellular biology at Harvard and hopes to become a cancer researcher. He said he qualified for Harvard's privately funded scholarship package.

Harvard officials threw their support behind Balderas after his detainment.

"Eric Balderas has already demonstrated the discipline and work ethic required for rigorous university work, and has, like so many of our undergraduates, expressed an interest in making a difference in the world," said Christine Heenan, Harvard's vice president of public affairs and communications.

The case also sparked a buzz on social media sites and among student immigrant activists who see the Balderas situation as the ideal test case to push the proposed DREAM act — a federal bill that would allow illegal immigrants a pathway to citizenship through college enrollment or military service.

[The Reckoning]

haha Cesar Millan is all illegal immigration has to offer.

thats funny.