View Full Version : Where does Kobe ranks among the all time Finals chokers in NBA history
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MiamiHeat
06-13-2010, 09:59 PM
I'd say he's #1
but that could change if Dirk was surrounded with great talent like Kobe was surrounded with
then Dirk could go to the Finals more and choke more often and steal the title from Kobe
DAF86
06-13-2010, 10:00 PM
I'm not gay.
JamStone
06-13-2010, 10:01 PM
Not the game to say Kobe is a choker
I'd say he's #1
but that could change if Dirk was surrounded with great talent like Kobe was surrounded with
then Dirk could go to the Finals more and choke more often and steal the title from Kobe
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Ghazi
06-13-2010, 10:03 PM
No choking going on here, LA just down 2-3 to the team its supposed to be down to.
UrAphag
06-13-2010, 10:06 PM
If The lakers win this series, kobe should be known as the only guy who could win the chip with toilet paper as his teammates. twice
dallasmavsnfuego214
06-13-2010, 10:15 PM
If The lakers win this series, kobe should be known as the only guy who could win the chip with toilet paper as his teammates. twice
They only look like "toilet paper" because as soon as things go bad Kobe panics and feels like he has to take over. Idk if you've ever played basketball or not, but if you have some guy on your team that just dominates the ball you start to get frustrated and really just lose interest.
MiamiHeat
06-13-2010, 10:18 PM
They only look like "toilet paper" because as soon as things go bad Kobe panics and feels like he has to take over. Idk if you've ever played basketball or not, but if you have some guy on your team that just dominates the ball you start to get frustrated and really just lose interest.
+1000000
motherfucking truth.
ChrisRichards
06-13-2010, 10:31 PM
If Kobe maintains a 45% FG and 30 PPG to close the series, then its not on him. Id put the blame on Artest, Bynum and even Fisher for not helping Kobe and Pau.
ffadicted
06-13-2010, 10:44 PM
I wasn't gonna vote 1, cuz that's Dirk, but the poll left no other reasonable choice
baseline bum
06-13-2010, 10:45 PM
No way you can put tonight on Kobe. The rest of the series is fair game, but Kobe was the only reason the Lakers didn't get destroyed by 20.
I wasn't gonna vote 1, cuz that's Dirk, but the poll left no other reasonable choice
Well if there's no other reasonable choice you vote for Kobe
dirk4mvp
06-13-2010, 10:48 PM
To be hyped up as much as he is about him being a stone cold assassin or the black mamba or whatever, he sure has a knack for laying turds.
MiamiHeat
06-13-2010, 10:48 PM
No way you can put tonight on Kobe. The rest of the series is fair game, but Kobe was the only reason the Lakers didn't get destroyed by 20.
4-12 at the half
team not into the game, lack of focus, no momentum, no team chemistry
shooting much better in the 2nd half, but still ball hogging.
Chieflion
06-13-2010, 10:48 PM
I am just asking for people like lakaluva and Kool_Aid Man, why isn't this a multiple choice poll?
MiamiHeat
06-13-2010, 10:49 PM
To be hyped up as much as he is about him being a stone cold assassin or the black mamba or whatever, he sure has a knack for laying turds.
yup
we are all welcomed to the modern NBA
where hype and money creates myths and overrate players that haven't earned it.
You already mentioned KObe
how about Dwight HOward as "Superman"
hahahahahahahaahahahhahahah
dirk4mvp
06-13-2010, 10:51 PM
He's a great player and all, but he's close to the top 5 like some want to put him in there.
UrAphag
06-14-2010, 12:17 AM
4-12 at the half
team not into the game, lack of focus, no momentum, no team chemistry
shooting much better in the 2nd half, but still ball hogging.
The "team" had its chance to get in the fucking game from the start. They began to lay an egg. If kobe hadn't got hot in the third and distributed more, lakers would have gotten blown out. Then everyone would just blame kobe for quitting.
Shastafarian
06-14-2010, 12:18 AM
He does act all tough to start but when it counts he acts like...
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs508.ash1/29990_623365792822_3103453_35967406_6313429_n.jpg
hitmanyr2k
06-14-2010, 12:26 AM
Karl Malone not in the poll?
Shastafarian
06-14-2010, 12:28 AM
What about Wilt?
DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-14-2010, 12:40 AM
Karl Malone not in the poll?
Seriously. This is the obvious choice.
LMAO Kobe. The Celts are about to go 10-2 on these Laker bitches hahahahaha
http://imagemacros.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/omg_gay.jpg
Baseline
06-14-2010, 02:08 AM
Bryant is definitely the biggest Finals choker. He has a TON of talent flanking him, but he doesn't elevate their play. He doesn't make them better.
Bryant's style of play is selfish. Everybody knows the Lakers are a better team when Bryant scores 20-25, and gets 7+ assists. Thing is, despite the talent around him, that's hard for him to do. He just doesn't play that way. He is an individual performer in a team game.
Bryant is a scorer, not a "great basketball player." Boston has four guys who are all very good individual players, but they know that playing together as a team will get them further. Bryant still hasn't figured that out yet.
By the way, as hot as Bryant was tonight, he still didn't shoot 50% from the field, nor has he been able to do that in any game this series.
Ghazi
06-14-2010, 02:13 AM
This series so far isn't about what Kobe is doing wrong, or his supporting cast is doing wrong.... it is about the greatness of the Celtics.
and Kobe's supporting cast is overrated. Bynum/Odom are inconsistent, Artest is a flawed offensive player, and Fisher save that 1 game is showing why people were complaining about him all year. Bench ain't nothin to call home about either... who on the Lakers bench would be capable of having performance like Nasty Nate/Glen Davis in Game 4? Nobody comes to mind.
MiamiHeat
06-14-2010, 02:35 AM
This series so far isn't about what Kobe is doing wrong, or his supporting cast is doing wrong.... it is about the greatness of the Celtics.
and Kobe's supporting cast is overrated. Bynum/Odom are inconsistent, Artest is a flawed offensive player, and Fisher save that 1 game is showing why people were complaining about him all year. Bench ain't nothin to call home about either... who on the Lakers bench would be capable of having performance like Nasty Nate/Glen Davis in Game 4? Nobody comes to mind.
or do you think they are overrated because of Bryant's selfish play, that causes them to look poorly?
or do you think they are overrated because of Bryant's selfish play, that causes them to look poorly?
This Lakers team is underachieving because Kobe is chucking shots at an all-time rate.
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 08:20 AM
^Abbott & Costello performing live. It's adorable.
TampaDude
06-14-2010, 08:23 AM
This Lakers team is underachieving because Kobe is chucking shots at an all-time rate.
This Lakers team is underachieving because Kobe keeps throwing his teammates under the bus. :lol
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/columns/story?id=5283566
gaKNOW!blee
06-14-2010, 08:41 AM
lmao 42%
JamStone
06-14-2010, 09:02 AM
What's crazy is some of you actually believe this shit.
Any other superstar player in the league who had the game Kobe had yesterday would be praised for doing everything he could do to keep his team in the game. Kobe gets shitted on for not allowing his teammates to get involved. Did you watch how shitty his teammates were playing? It's not Kobe. Kobe does pass the ball, and he gets called out for not trying to take over. He takes over and gets called unselfish. No other player in the league gets that type of unrelenting and unabashed hate. It's beyond comical.
Kobe shoots a poor percentage from the field. He doesn't care. The last two games he's shot 47% from the field and is the only reason the Lakers even had a chance in either game, and he still gets bashed. Pretty much par for the course from Kobe haters though.
Kobe can't pull Pau's head out of his ass. Kobe can't dangle Kloe's pussy in front of Lamar on the court. Kobe can't give Ron Artest a brain transplant.
Yes, I'm a Kobe apologist. Admittedly so. But some of you Kobe haters can't accept how deranged your Kobe hate logic is.
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 09:05 AM
Wow!
That award did wonders for ya, Jammie. Congratulations, yer like Cliff Robertson in "Charly."
Chieflion
06-14-2010, 09:06 AM
What's crazy is some of you actually believe this shit.
Any other superstar player in the league who had the game Kobe had yesterday would be praised for doing everything he could do to keep his team in the game. Kobe gets shitted on for not allowing his teammates to get involved. Did you watch how shitty his teammates were playing? It's not Kobe. Kobe does pass the ball, and he gets called out for not trying to take over. He takes over and gets called unselfish. No other player in the league gets that type of unrelenting and unabashed hate. It's beyond comical.
Kobe shoots a poor percentage from the field. He doesn't care. The last two games he's shot 47% from the field and is the only reason the Lakers even had a chance in either game, and he still gets bashed. Pretty much par for the course from Kobe haters though.
Kobe can't pull Pau's head out of his ass. Kobe can't dangle Kloe's pussy in front of Lamar on the court. Kobe can't give Ron Artest a brain transplant.
Yes, I'm a Kobe apologist. Admittedly so. But some of you Kobe haters can't accept how deranged your Kobe hate logic is.
Some of them are trolling. And this question can be deduced as "All-time Finals chokers", which also essentially means 2004 and 2008. Kobe did all he could on game 5, still not enough. With the exception of that 3rd quarter burst, he did play subpar for his standards, especially in the 1st half. By the way, check your PM.
TampaDude
06-14-2010, 09:09 AM
What's crazy is some of you actually believe this shit.
Any other superstar player in the league who had the game Kobe had yesterday would be praised for doing everything he could do to keep his team in the game. Kobe gets shitted on for not allowing his teammates to get involved. Did you watch how shitty his teammates were playing? It's not Kobe. Kobe does pass the ball, and he gets called out for not trying to take over. He takes over and gets called unselfish. No other player in the league gets that type of unrelenting and unabashed hate. It's beyond comical.
Kobe shoots a poor percentage from the field. He doesn't care. The last two games he's shot 47% from the field and is the only reason the Lakers even had a chance in either game, and he still gets bashed. Pretty much par for the course from Kobe haters though.
Kobe can't pull Pau's head out of his ass. Kobe can't dangle Kloe's pussy in front of Lamar on the court. Kobe can't give Ron Artest a brain transplant.
Yes, I'm a Kobe apologist. Admittedly so. But some of you Kobe haters can't accept how deranged your Kobe hate logic is.
Hey, Kobe IS doing his part on the court...I mean, 38 points...what more does PJ want? His teammates have fucking all but disappeared, though. If Gasol doesn't step up big again, the Lakers are not winning Game 6.
JamStone
06-14-2010, 09:09 AM
Wow!
That award did wonders for ya, Jammie. Congratulations, yer like Cliff Robertson in "Charly."
A charming request to drop my pants and unzip would suffice.
There are other ways to treat a sore throat, you know.
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 09:13 AM
A charming request to drop my pants and unzip would suffice.
There are other ways to treat a sore throat, you know.
But, still common enough to play stinky finger with Cubby.
You're so adorable when you're awarded.
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 09:15 AM
If Gasol doesn't step up big again, the Lakers are not winning Game 6.
Let's see,,,,if Gasol steps up big again, we're collusioned to death. If he doesn't we're stuck at 15.
I'll go for the collusion end.......I can't stand the San Antonio Celtics gettin' their 21 & 1/2 ring on. No way!
JamStone
06-14-2010, 09:15 AM
Cully, your infatuations do not amuse me.
I'd suggest you play nice in your little no-medal play pen and speak to me when you've had something else other than a dildo to polish.
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 09:18 AM
Cully, your infatuations do not amuse me.
I'd suggest you play nice in your little no-medal play pen and speak to me when you've had something else other than a dildo to polish.
Acting all high & mighty cuz of that Award.
You're the Victoria Barkley of The Lakers Board at ST.
I think I'm turned on, Jammie.
JamStone
06-14-2010, 09:23 AM
I keep giving you gifts. You still don't show any gratitude. I'm starting to think it's in vain.
Still dreaming of your glass slipper in the attic. Maybe your days coming.
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 09:28 AM
I keep giving you gifts. You still don't show any gratitude. I'm starting to think it's in vain.
Still dreaming of your glass slipper in the attic. Maybe your days coming.
Yeah, my days coming all right, and the glass slipper won't be in the attic, it'll be on the Princess' foot and up my money maker.
JamStone
06-14-2010, 09:30 AM
Still waiting on a thank you.
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 09:36 AM
Still waiting on a thank you.
I'm not thanking you until you admit your complicity in our new found relationship based on the bestowment of your Award.
mavsfan1000
06-14-2010, 09:41 AM
And people thought Dirk was bad at choking. Kobe takes it to another level. But MJ was the biggest choker ever.
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 09:45 AM
And people thought Dirk was bad at choking.
What do you expect, you stupid ass, you were a gnat's ass from breaking your cherry and you stepped out the side door, Dirk leading the way.
What's crazy is some of you actually believe this shit.
Any other superstar player in the league who had the game Kobe had yesterday would be praised for doing everything he could do to keep his team in the game. Kobe gets shitted on for not allowing his teammates to get involved. Did you watch how shitty his teammates were playing? It's not Kobe. Kobe does pass the ball, and he gets called out for not trying to take over. He takes over and gets called unselfish. No other player in the league gets that type of unrelenting and unabashed hate. It's beyond comical.
Kobe shoots a poor percentage from the field. He doesn't care. The last two games he's shot 47% from the field and is the only reason the Lakers even had a chance in either game, and he still gets bashed. Pretty much par for the course from Kobe haters though.
Kobe can't pull Pau's head out of his ass. Kobe can't dangle Kloe's pussy in front of Lamar on the court. Kobe can't give Ron Artest a brain transplant.
Yes, I'm a Kobe apologist. Admittedly so. But some of you Kobe haters can't accept how deranged your Kobe hate logic is.
You can give your intelligent basketball argument essay all you want, but 29/33 people can't be wrong
JamStone
06-14-2010, 09:54 AM
Good point.
DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-14-2010, 09:55 AM
You can give your intelligent basketball argument essay all you want, but 29/33 people can't be wrong
:lol it's a ST poll
And yeah there's nothing else Kobe coulda done last night. It's not like Gasol was dominating and Kobe shot his team outa the game because he wanted to be the hero. They started the 3rd quarter terribly, and Kobe saw the game slipping away. None of his teammates decided to step up with the sense of urgency he had. It was 2008 all over again, KG bullied the niggas he was supposed to bully.
jdev82
06-14-2010, 10:15 AM
If Kobe maintains a 45% FG and 30 PPG to close the series, then its not on him. Id put the blame on Artest, Bynum and even Fisher for not helping Kobe and Pau.
45 percent? have you seen his average thus far?
jdev82
06-14-2010, 10:16 AM
And people thought Dirk was bad at choking. Kobe takes it to another level. But MJ was the biggest choker ever.
i actually think dirk is quite good at choking
JamStone
06-14-2010, 10:25 AM
45 percent? have you seen his average thus far?
I took that as shooting 45% for the rest of the series going forward. In the last two games, Kobe has shot 47% from the field (45.5% in game 4 and 48% last night).
xtremesteven33
06-14-2010, 10:41 AM
If the Celtics close out in game 6. Forget it, Kobe's legacy will be tarnished forever. He shouldve won game 5 but couldnt do it. If he cant win on his homecourt in either game 6 or 7, he will definitely go down as choker.
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 10:42 AM
If the Celtics close out in game 6. Forget it, Kobe's legacy will be tarnished forever.
Horseshit.
Killakobe81
06-14-2010, 10:45 AM
If the Celtics close out in game 6. Forget it, Kobe's legacy will be tarnished forever. He shouldve won game 5 but couldnt do it. If he cant win on his homecourt in either game 6 or 7, he will definitely go down as choker.
LOL step away from the keyboard ...
You have been disallowed from posting due an exreme lack of intellect or basketball insight.
Only females are so dramatic ...
xtremesteven33
06-14-2010, 10:47 AM
Horseshit.
Sorry to break it to you lil Kobe.
This isnt by my standards either. Its by his standards as well. Tell me he doesnt look in the mirror everyday and say to himself hes the greatest of all time. He has to believe it in his heart but if he comes up short for the 3rd TIME in the Finals with HCA, and a damn good supporting cast. I would classify it under Failure buddy.
So would he. The guy is the face of all that is basketball today and looks to one day be revered as such MJ,Magic and Bird. But none of those guys have come up short like Kobe has in the Finals. Sure they have lost before but they have Finals series where they have won the game by themselves. They didnt need help in the 4th qurarter from their inferior PG. Fisher is the one with the balls of steel in the 4th quarter it seems. Not Kobe
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 10:48 AM
Sorry to break it to you lil Kobe.
This isnt by my standards either. Its by his standards as well. Tell me he doesnt look in the mirror everyday and say to himself hes the greatest of all time. He has to believe it in his heart but if he comes up short for the 3rd TIME in the Finals with HCA, and a damn good supporting cast. I would classify it under Failure buddy.
So would he. The guy is the face of all that is basketball today and looks to one day be revered as such MJ,Magic and Bird. But none of those guys have come up short like Kobe has in the Finals. Fisher is the one with the balls of steel. Not Kobe.
So Duncan is a failure too because he didn't repeat once in three and half trys?
Killakobe81
06-14-2010, 10:49 AM
Sorry to break it to you lil Kobe.
This isnt by my standards either. Its by his standards as well. Tell me he doesnt look in the mirror everyday and say to himself hes the greatest of all time. He has to believe it in his heart but if he comes up short for the 3rd TIME in the Finals with HCA, and a damn good supporting cast. I would classify it under Failure buddy.
So would he. The guy is the face of all that is basketball today and looks to one day be revered as such MJ,Magic and Bird. But none of those guys have come up short like Kobe has in the Finals. Fisher is the one with the balls of steel. Not Kobe.
No apologies needed. He is not the GOAT and he will not be "tarnished" you cant speak in such absolutes ...Bird lost in the Finals to the Lakers twice Magic to the Celts, Sixers, Pistons and Bulls ...
Read your history son ...how did that work out for THOSE guys?
Killakobe81
06-14-2010, 10:53 AM
Only spur fans cry that well duncan is "perfect" in the finals so he is better than kobe crap ...
Look find some help for that aging mediocre crew. I understand that duncan is the first legitimate ALL-Time great you guys have had ...(ronbinson and Gervin were stars not all-time greats) so you must knock other guys to protect timmy's legacy ...
So losing to the suns 4-0 tarnishes Tim's?
xtremesteven33
06-14-2010, 10:53 AM
So Duncan is a failure too because he didn't repeat once in three and half trys?
Timmy doesnt get half the bullshit media propoganda that Bryant gets. The money thats being endorsed in this guy and the constant mind feeding, cock blowing svc he gets on TV is mind numbing.
And to come up short where as MJ wouldve kicked their ass...dude gimme my money back
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 10:56 AM
Timmy doesnt get half the bullshit media propoganda that Bryant gets.
That being said, is Duncan a failure for not repeating in 3 and a half tries?
Killakobe81
06-14-2010, 10:56 AM
Timmy doesnt get half the bullshit media propoganda that Bryant gets. The money thats being endorsed in this guy and the constant mind feeding, cock blowing svc he gets on TV is mind numbing.
And to come up short where as MJ wouldve kicked their ass...dude gimme my money back
Jealous much?
Who cares? Smells like "small-market inferiority complex syndome"
Duncan HAS the rings AND the MVP's ...
The media sucks off Lebron even more .... how many titles he got?
But thanks for showingthe real reason for your hate your posts just lost what little credibility they had ...
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 10:57 AM
Jealous much?
Who cares duncan HAS the rings AND the MVP's ...
The media sucks off Lebron even more .... how many titles he got?
But thanks for showingthe real reason for your hate your posts just lost what little credibility they had ...
You've been busted, X.
And it was easy. Usually I grind down into a various "lm.........ao", but, I actually had some legit shit here.
Feels good!
Killakobe81
06-14-2010, 10:58 AM
Cully im done with this jealous penis envy poser ... you finish him off ...
That being said, is Duncan a failure for not repeating in 3 and a half tries?
I don't get why he keeps referring to the Spurs championships as 3 1/2.
Its probly hilarious though:rollin
I can't wait to hear Giuseppe's explanation on how he came up with such witty comedic gold all by himself
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 11:00 AM
Cully im done with this jealous penis envy poser ... you finish him off ...
We already did, Killa.
No weak shit from me either. Just pluggin' Tim into the Kobe model.
Just like that.
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 11:01 AM
I don't get why he keeps referring to the Spurs championships as 3 1/2.
Its probly hilarious though:rollin
I can't wait to hear Giuseppe's explanation on how he came up with such witty comedic gold all by himself
It's just to get a goat or two.
xtremesteven33
06-14-2010, 11:01 AM
Jealous much?
Who cares? Smells like "small-market inferiority complex syndome"
Duncan HAS the rings AND the MVP's ...
The media sucks off Lebron even more .... how many titles he got?
But thanks for showingthe real reason for your hate your posts just lost what little credibility they had ...
Im not jealous at all. I just call it like I see it. He gets all this attention and we are force fed to hear "Look at Kobe" "There goes that man" "Better than Magic" BULLSHIT.
thats all im saying dude. Im not saying hes a bad player. Hes a great player. Just not great enough...just not God like status to everyone else besides Laker fans...
That my friend is the Truth
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 11:02 AM
Im not jealous at all. I just call it like I see it. He gets all this attention and we are force fed to hear "Look at Kobe" "There goes that man" "Better than Magic" BULLSHIT.
thats all im saying dude. Im not saying hes a bad player. Hes a great player. Just not great enough...just not God like status to everyone else besides Laker fans...
That my friend is the Truth
So, that being said,,,is Tim a failure because he's never repeated?
xtremesteven33
06-14-2010, 11:05 AM
So, that being said,,,is Tim a failure because he's never repeated?
Tim hasnt been to back to back Finals so I wouldnt classify it as failure to me as a Spurs fan.
Spurs fans nor the media propogates Duncan over than what he has done. Best PF ever is already in stone. Everyone knows it. Its undebatable.
However, Kobe cant even get past best Laker ever. Maybe one day hell do it statistically but deep down everyone knows he's 2nd or 3rd to Kareem and Magic.
xtremesteven33
06-14-2010, 11:07 AM
No Spur fan expects anymore from Duncan. 4 rings is enough. 2 MVP's is enough. He did it all by himself. No EQUAL superstar to him for all 4 runs. Sure a damn good team but no high profile superstar such as himself.
Kobe's first 3 rings are Shaqs. Lets be real.
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 11:08 AM
Tim hasnt been to back to back Finals so I wouldnt classify it as failure to me as a Spurs fan.
Spurs fans nor the media propogates Duncan over than what he has done. Best PF ever is already in stone. Everyone knows it. Its undebatable.
However, Kobe cant even get past best Laker ever. Maybe one day hell do it statistically but deep down everyone knows he's 2nd or 3rd to Kareem and Magic.
So is Manu a failure for not repeating?
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 11:09 AM
No Spur fan expects anymore from Duncan.
That's convenient, and puny.
xtremesteven33
06-14-2010, 11:10 AM
All rite, im out
Lakernation implodes 34 hours in counting...
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 11:11 AM
All rite, im out
Buh, bye.
lmvictoriousao!
Next!!!!
Killakobe81
06-14-2010, 11:11 AM
LOL cully ...this dude is hilarious ... what if Kobe has 5 rings it will be well 3 of them are Shaq's ...LMAO
Sad and desperate please put him out of his misery you ENJOY this stuff ...me I just
Shake my head at the poor misguided souls ...lashing out at Kobe because their june runs are over ....
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 11:15 AM
LOL cully ...this dude is hilarious ... what if Kobe has 5 rings it will be well 3 of them are Shaq's ...LMAO
Sad and desperate please put him out of his misery you ENJOY this stuff ...me I just
Shake my head at the poor misguided souls ...lashing out at Kobe because their june runs are over ....
I do enjoy it. Gives me a chance to break some ass, and it ain't life & death. Anything that ain't life & death is a blast.
manufan10
06-14-2010, 11:35 AM
I don't think this series is Kobe's fault. He played a hell of a game last night, and no one else on his team showed up. Kobe was visibly pissed, and he had the right to be.
It's like last year when Bonner and Mason didn't show up for the playoffs. It wasn't Duncan and Parker's fault, those guys showed up to play, Bonner and Mason didn't.
It's stupid to blast Kobe because his teammates are no shows.
bottom line is this......
Kobe is easily the best player in this series.
But, how did the Lakers get here? By Kobe chucking up 30 shots a game?
No, they play through Gasol, Odom, Bynum and the other guys. Now that Kobe is so close to his 5th he thinks he needs to prove a message. He is such a great talent that he will make some of those impossible shots but he doesn't shoot a great percentage and it just hurts the team.
You can't dominate the offense and then all of a sudden expect your teammates to turn it on after you've tuned them out all game. They're already out of their rhythm. The Lakers are at their best when Gasol is getting 20, Bynum getting 10, Odom 15, and Artest around 10. That's the only way they'll win this series, but unfortunately I can't see Kobe getting past his ego and you know he's gonna want to put on a show in front of their home crowd which will end in their demise.
Killakobe81
06-14-2010, 11:39 AM
I don't think this series is Kobe's fault. He played a hell of a game last night, and no one else on his team showed up. Kobe was visibly pissed, and he had the right to be.
It's like last year when Bonner and Mason didn't show up for the playoffs. It wasn't Duncan and Parker's fault, those guys showed up to play, Bonner and Mason didn't.
It's stupid to blast Kobe because his teammates are no shows.
Honest and FAIR assessment ...
Kobe did not start shooting until the game started slipping away ...
TheMACHINE
06-14-2010, 11:50 AM
You can't dominate the offense and then all of a sudden expect your teammates to turn it on after you've tuned them out all game. They're already out of their rhythm. The Lakers are at their best when Gasol is getting 20, Bynum getting 10, Odom 15, and Artest around 10. That's the only way they'll win this series, but unfortunately I can't see Kobe getting past his ego and you know he's gonna want to put on a show in front of their home crowd which will end in their demise.
So what happens like last night when he played facilitator the first half and his teammates didnt show up.
Should he not go nuts at the third OR just keep forcing it to his teamamtes and then be called out for giving up like Lebron game 5?
TheMACHINE
06-14-2010, 11:51 AM
Kobe went on a tear but then he jacked up every shot possible when they pulled in close with his onslaught of points. He should have started dishing it when they got close and they were doubling him off the picks and on the perimeter. Instead he decides to jack it up in triple team
yah he shoulda passed it out to Artest and Odom for the THREE! Or maybe to Gasol so he can shoot a jumpshot.
bus driver
06-14-2010, 12:05 PM
KB isnt a choker....now the guys that play well thats a whole other issue
Originally Posted by RenaldoBalkman
Kobe went on a tear but then he jacked up every shot possible when they pulled in close with his onslaught of points. He should have started dishing it when they got close and they were doubling him off the picks and on the perimeter. Instead he decides to jack it up in triple team
what do you expect him to do? pass it to a mediocre player so he can miss it? well KB can shot it and probably has a better shot of making it. :wakeup
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 12:11 PM
^ That is Parker!!!
Muser
06-14-2010, 12:12 PM
Off topic but where is that milkshakeballa faggot?
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 12:13 PM
Off topic but where is that milkshakeballa faggot?
He's visiting Luva at the County Lockup.
Gervin44Silas13
06-14-2010, 12:30 PM
ALL-TIME FINALS CHOKERS!!!!!
1. Elgin Baylor (Never won a title)
2. Wilt Chamberlain (he was always Russels "B")
3. Karl Malone (missed free throw and getting the ball stolen from MJ)
4. Kobe Bryant (if he not able to beat the Celtics in 2 tries)
5. Nick Anderson (choked on the FT line)
Nuff said....not gay!
hitmanyr2k
06-14-2010, 12:36 PM
bottom line is this......
Kobe is easily the best player in this series.
But, how did the Lakers get here? By Kobe chucking up 30 shots a game?
LA got to the Finals by playing sissy teams that they bullied into submission with their size and length. Now the shoe is on the other foot. LA are the ones getting bullied...Kobe included. Other than his 7 minute hot streak against Ray Allen the rest of the game he played like shit with turnovers, shitty rotations on defense, and dumb fouls. Tony Allen is bullying his ass all over the place and getting him out of his comfort spots just like Wallace, Big Baby, and Garnett are doing to Gasol.
LA is at their absolute best when everyone is moving and Kobe is mixing up the offense either getting quality shots or getting into the paint drawing attention and finding one of his bigs diving to the rim for an easy two. When is the last time you saw Kobe get in the paint and kick it to Pau right at the rim for an easy bucket? LA did that shit constantly against 6'9 wonders Amare and Boozer and whatever no-name OKC had but you don't see any of that against the Celtics. Boston has turned LA's offense completely stagnant where it's come to the point where even a simple pass is difficult and as a result there's a lot more one on one ball than usual. You can see in every game as this series goes on the Lakers are wearing down mentally and physically. The Celtics are slow-cooking their asses.
And yes, Phil Jackson is getting out-coached because he can see what I'm seeing but so far hasn't done a damn thing about it. I'm guessing he's depending on HCA as well.
Phillip
06-14-2010, 12:59 PM
Once Kobe got in his zone, he went into complete scoring mode last night. Once the Celtics keyed in on this, he never went back to creating mode. Even if your teammates are playing badly, its still MUCH better to go with Gasol taking and potentially missing a shot going 1-on-1 against Big Baby or Jordan Farmar getting a shot at a wide open three, as opposed to driving into 4 guys and expecting to consistently score. its better to create high percentage shots for others (even if they may not be playing well), as opposed to taking and missing low percentage shots. all it takes is for 1 shot to go down for someone to get going, and all it takes is 1 miss for someone to go cold. the latter was shown last night, as after kobe went on his hot streak, and then launched a long 3 that went in and out, and suddenly his streak was over and he went to missing all those tough shots he was hitting at first.
Gasol getting a measly 12 attempts is unacceptable. Kobe missing more shots than any other player took in total, is unacceptable. and that falls on Kobe. its his job to get the best out of his team, especially being the high profile player that he is. instead of trying to get his teammates hot by giving them their wide open looks, and allowing people to shoot high percentage shots, he resorted to taking a plethora of low percentage shots, simply because he was "feeling it" for a while. especially against a dominant defensive team like the Celtics.
granted, it wasnt entirely kobes fault that the Lakers lost, but he definitely had an equally big part in the lakers losing, as he did in keeping them alive when he was on fire for a bit.
TheMACHINE
06-14-2010, 01:02 PM
Gasol getting a measly 12 attempts is unacceptable. Kobe missing more shots than any other player took in total, is unacceptable. and that falls on Kobe. its his job to get the best out of his team, especially being the high profile player that he is. instead of trying to get his teammates hot by giving them their wide open looks, and allowing people to shoot high percentage shots, he resorted to taking a plethora of low percentage shots, simply because he was "feeling it" for a while. especially against a dominant defensive team like the Celtics.
Question. When was the last time Gasol scored 1v1 in the post?
hitmanyr2k
06-14-2010, 01:13 PM
Once Kobe got in his zone, he went into complete scoring mode last night. Once the Celtics keyed in on this, he never went back to creating mode. Even if your teammates are playing badly, its still MUCH better to go with Gasol taking and potentially missing a shot going 1-on-1 against Big Baby or Jordan Farmar getting a shot at a wide open three, as opposed to driving into 4 guys and expecting to consistently score. its better to create high percentage shots for others (even if they may not be playing well), as opposed to taking and missing low percentage shots. all it takes is for 1 shot to go down for someone to get going, and all it takes is 1 miss for someone to go cold. the latter was shown last night, as after kobe went on his hot streak, and then launched a long 3 that went in and out, and suddenly his streak was over and he went to missing all those tough shots he was hitting at first.
Gasol getting a measly 12 attempts is unacceptable. Kobe missing more shots than any other player took in total, is unacceptable. and that falls on Kobe. its his job to get the best out of his team, especially being the high profile player that he is. instead of trying to get his teammates hot by giving them their wide open looks, and allowing people to shoot high percentage shots, he resorted to taking a plethora of low percentage shots, simply because he was "feeling it" for a while. especially against a dominant defensive team like the Celtics.
granted, it wasnt entirely kobes fault that the Lakers lost, but he definitely had an equally big part in the lakers losing, as he did in keeping them alive when he was on fire for a bit.
That falls on Phil Jackson more than Kobe. I said before this series even started that this was an unfavorable matchup for Gasol because of all the bodies Boston can throw at him...and even moreso now that Bynum isn't getting consistent minutes. Pau can't score one on one consistently against these guys in the paint and shouldn't be expected to be. Wallace and KG can match him in length. Big Baby weighs a ton and has nimble feet so Pau can't back him down. Perkins is just a brick wall. And even when Pau does make a move and get to the rim he usually has 2 Celtics waiting for him to alter the shot or stuff it back down his throat. Rather than try to post Pau up against that physical Celtic defense they need to get Gasol on the move and make Boston's defense react. Put Kobe and Pau in the pick and roll and have him either dive to the rim or get to a good spot for a midrange jumper. Just get those Celtic bigs off his ass. It'll have him more involved in the offense where he isn't just standing around and will also give Kobe a more direct target to pass to if he gets up in the air and has nowhere to go. Phil Jackson hasn't made any adjustments whatsoever to counter Boston's defense.
kamikazi_player
06-14-2010, 01:31 PM
Hey, lets be honest guys. Celtics are just the better team this year.
LOOK at what they did to these teams that were favored to win the series.
Cavs-played very well and got Lebron out of a rhythm. Played great defense
Magic-Got the other players like Lewis, Barnes, and Carter out of a rhythm a few games. Did not hurt that they played exceptional defense.
Lakers-Did what the Suns basically did, but more defense. They let Kobe try to win the game for the Lakers and get other players cold from the field.
I know alot do not like giving the Celtics any credit, but there's no way that they do so well against arguably the best 3 NBA teams in the league before the playoffs.
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 01:33 PM
Hey, lets be honest guys. Celtics are just the better team this year.
And if they end us I'll have no problem giving them their onions. No problem at all.
I don't do officiating. I don't do injuries. I don't do collusions.
It's my religion.
kamikazi_player
06-14-2010, 01:36 PM
And if they end us I'll have no problem giving them their onions. No problem at all.
I don't do officiating. I don't do injuries. I don't do collusions.
It's my religion.
:toast...Well done
Killakobe81
06-14-2010, 01:52 PM
Hey, lets be honest guys. Celtics are just the better team this year.LOOK at what they did to these teams that were favored to win the series.
Cavs-played very well and got Lebron out of a rhythm. Played great defense
Magic-Got the other players like Lewis, Barnes, and Carter out of a rhythm a few games. Did not hurt that they played exceptional defense.
Lakers-Did what the Suns basically did, but more defense. They let Kobe try to win the game for the Lakers and get other players cold from the field.
I know alot do not like giving the Celtics any credit, but there's no way that they do so well against arguably the best 3 NBA teams in the league before the playoffs.
this. win or lose Celts are a great team ...you cant say someone choked against a GREAT team ...
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 01:57 PM
this. win or lose Celts are a great team ...you cant say someone choked against a GREAT team ...
Qualifying losses is useless and for losers.
You win OR you lose. That's it. It's over. You simply go back to the drawing board, get more of yer'n and try to be there'n. That's what Magic did after the calamity of '84. That's what Kobe will face 26 years later if we can't end them by Thursday nite.
TheMACHINE
06-14-2010, 02:25 PM
No, but you dont take double/triple team shots when Odom/Gasol/Artest is open. Well maybe dont pass it to Artest, but pass it to Odom or Gasol if your triple teamed instead of jacking it up.
you're bullshiting us if you claiming Gasol is ever wide open.
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 02:27 PM
Wallace has found his place in the sun again...this time thwarting Gasol.........."You got ta fight thru that, Fooker!"
Killakobe81
06-14-2010, 02:49 PM
Qualifying losses is useless and for losers.
You win OR you lose. That's it. It's over. You simply go back to the drawing board, get more of yer'n and try to be there'n. That's what Magic did after the calamity of '84. That's what Kobe will face 26 years later if we can't end them by Thursday nite.
I dont diagree Cully all im saying Celts are good losing is not a chokejob just a loss ...
I wont play the Bynum is hurt card or the ref card ....
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 02:53 PM
I dont diagree Cully all im saying Celts are good losing is not a chokejob just a loss ...
I wont play the Bynum is hurt card or the ref card ....
Saying "won't" is tantamount to playing it, Killa. Say "don't" and do not include sir names in your disclaimer.
---
And you're right.....it's no choke losing to the Celtics to this point. A choke possibility is still on the table for both teams though.
Anything that ain't life & death is a blast.
Rondo gettin' that sweet easy layup from an out of bounds play against a full court press in a Lakers' do-or-die situation , for example. Just great stuff.
Killakobe81
06-14-2010, 02:56 PM
Saying "won't" is tantamount to playing it, Killa. Say "don't" and do not include sir names in your disclaimer.
---
And you're right.....it's no choke losing to the Celtics to this point. A choke possibility is still on the table for both teams though.
FOR The record (for Cully AND everyone else) ...
No excuses we lose the better team won.
i was saying I do NOT make EXCUSES ...never have ...
Someone find a post of mine where I did ...
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 02:56 PM
Rondo gettin' that sweet easy layup from an out of bounds play against a full court press in a Lakers' do-or-die situation , for example. Just great stuff.
Z, gettin' his San Antonio Celtic on.
Z, gettin' his San Antonio Celtic on.
Just checkin' that LA Suns asshole of yours.
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 02:58 PM
Just checkin' that LA Suns asshole of yours.
I'm a trend setter.
I set trends.
And they're already a-coming back to haunt.
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 03:01 PM
And they're already a-coming back to haunt.
lmcontrollinao!
this. win or lose Celts are a great team ...you cant say someone choked against a GREAT team ...
:lmao:lmao:lmao
Oh, how convenient. LakerFan was so confident they were gonna repeat with ease against the aging Celtics. Now they want to backtrack and call the Celtics the favorites
If the Lakers lose in 6, there's some blamecards needin' handed out. Starting at the top.
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 03:45 PM
If the Lakers lose in 6, there's some blamecards needin' handed out. Starting at the top.
They'll be one of 28 other total failures.
dallasmavsnfuego214
06-14-2010, 03:46 PM
*29
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 03:49 PM
*29
No, 28, either us or the Celtics will be 29.
Baseline
06-14-2010, 03:55 PM
Kobe's first 3 rings are Shaqs. Lets be real.
Exactly. Yet the David Stern's PR machine has shoved down our throats that somehow those three rings were Bryant's. Well if so, who won the MVP all three years? Who averaged over 35 and 15 in the finals over that three-year stretch?
Bryant scored 38 in one game last night (a loss, at that) and now he's the greatest player ever to play. Dude, Shaquille practically averaged that over three straight Finals from 2000-2002.
dallasmavsnfuego214
06-14-2010, 03:55 PM
No, 28, either us or the Celtics will be 29.
i stand corrected
Cubby, gettin his math on!
ChrisRichards
06-14-2010, 03:57 PM
Win or lose, Kobe Finals MVP?
PER Diem: June 14, 2010
Hollinger By John Hollinger
ESPN.com
BOSTON -- In an odd Finals filled with statistical oddities and in which each game has borne virtually no resemblance to its predecessor, it's perhaps fitting that through five games we're left with another unusual situation: There is no clear-cut choice for series MVP. In fact, if Boston were to close things out with a win in Game 6 on Tuesday, as many as four Celtics could garner serious consideration.
Of course, the MVP doesn't have to come from the winning team. While this isn't the letter of the rule it's been an unwritten law for the past four decades -- every Finals MVP since 1969 has come from the winning team. Alas, every rule has its exception, and after Sunday night's 38-point effort we may be looking at one in the form of Kobe Bryant.
While the Celtics deserve their 3-2 lead in the series, there's no question who the best player has been over these first five games. That point was driven home with a sledgehammer in Game 5 when Bryant scored 19 points in the third quarter only to find the Celtics' lead had increased when he was done.
This continued a Finals in which Bryant has had at least 20 points in every game, has had only one game that possibly could be construed as somewhere close to ordinary (Game 2), and has had a pair (Games 1 and 5) in which he was absolutely spectacular.
For the series, Bryant is averaging 30.2 points per game; no other player is averaging more than 19. He's done it reasonably efficiently too, with a 55.2 true shooting percentage in a series in which the average has been 53.4. That's amazing considering the difficulty of the attempts he's taken, especially in Game 5.
Bryant has filled the stat sheet in various and sundry other ways, too. Bryant leads all Finals players in steals, is second in assists and has yanked down six rebounds a game. About the only quibble one could make is that he's been a bit turnover-prone; of course, he's playing against the league's top turnover-forcing defense, so this shouldn't come as a huge shock.
And while the league doesn't award extra points for degree of difficulty, part of the reason Bryant has been forced into such challenging attempts is how little help he's received from the cavalry. Again, this point was hammered into our consciousness in the second half of Game 5 -- Pau Gasol was the only Lakers starter to score a basket after halftime, and the Spaniard's play was positively repulsive throughout (among his other assorted flubs, did anyone else catch him standing in the paint watching as Nate Robinson flew by for an easy fourth-quarter layup?).
If you're not sold on Bryant's MVP case yet, then consider the alternative. If not Kobe, who?
Quote:The fact is Bryant has been by far the most productive player, and the only reason the Celtics are ahead is because five of the next six best players (the four above and supersub Glen Davis) have been wearing green. If series MVP voters are using their heads and not their hearts, Bryant is an obvious pick even with his team trailing.
There's an irony here, of course. I mentioned above that only one player has won Finals MVP in a losing effort; it was Bryant's idol and mentor, former Lakers star Jerry West. Wait, there's more. It came in the 1969 Finals … against the Celtics … against a veteran Boston team, in fact, that had won only 48 games and was seeded just fourth in the Eastern Conference at the start of the playoffs. L.A. ended up losing Game 7 at home despite 42 points, 13 rebounds and 12 assists from West.
A lot of water still has to go under the bridge for Kobe to join West, but suffice it to say that if Kobe goes for 42, 13 and 12 in a losing effort in the finale the award is probably his regardless of what anyone on the Celtics does.
Of course, Kobe would only join West if the Lakers did, in fact, lose the series. He could also go down in history more happily if the Lakers win the final two games. At this point I'd say it's a foregone conclusion that he'll win the award if that happens, with Gasol having essentially eliminated himself from further consideration with his performances in Games 4 and 5 and no other player coming close to Bryant statistically.
If Kobe wins Finals MVP (I dont think he will) then he'll probably be off the hook. If he continues his superb play in Game 6 and/or 7, then no one can fault him in this series. 2004 and 2008 however is on him.
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 04:00 PM
i stand corrected
Cubby, gettin his math on!
Your clarity in capitulation is duly noted.
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 04:01 PM
Win or lose, Kobe Finals MVP?
Take that f'in thing and shove it.
It's this:
1. Make the playoffs.
2. Win the last game you play.
And it's nothing else.
Giuseppe
06-14-2010, 04:08 PM
Kobe's ego would love to be the Finals MVP in a losing effort.
:rolleyes
ChrisRichards
06-14-2010, 04:28 PM
:rolleyes
:rolleyes
Killakobe81
06-14-2010, 04:30 PM
Kobe's ego would love to be the Finals MVP in a losing effort.
Another Dr.phil?
who cares Finals MVP means horseshit ...If Artest scored back 2 back 50 pt games to help us win a title and they gve it to him after throwing up bricks all series I could not care less ...
I want :lobt2:
ChrisRichards
06-14-2010, 04:33 PM
Another Dr.phil?
who cares Finals MVP means horseshit ...If Artest scored back 2 back 50 pt games to help us win a title and they gve it to him after throwing up bricks all series I could not care less ...
I want :lobt2:
:rolleyes
Dr House
06-14-2010, 07:33 PM
What is this nonsense!?!?!?!?!? How dare you insult the goat and leader of the 15 time nba champions lakers of los angeles, kobe "jellybean" bryant aka the black mamba!!!!!
Clutch is this guys middle name!!!never mind he lost the 2004 finals and 2008 finals it wasnn't his fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111
TheMACHINE
06-14-2010, 07:35 PM
What is this nonsense!?!?!?!?!? How dare you insult the goat and leader of the 15 time nba champions lakers of los angeles, kobe "jellybean" bryant aka the black mamba!!!!!
Clutch is this guys middle name!!!never mind he lost the 2004 finals and 2008 finals it wasnn't his fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111
:yawn
poser.
MiamiHeat
06-14-2010, 07:43 PM
Exactly. Yet the David Stern's PR machine has shoved down our throats that somehow those three rings were Bryant's. Well if so, who won the MVP all three years? Who averaged over 35 and 15 in the finals over that three-year stretch?
Bryant scored 38 in one game last night (a loss, at that) and now he's the greatest player ever to play. Dude, Shaquille practically averaged that over three straight Finals from 2000-2002.
Just throw videos like this at them
Y7RGEVoHGMw
Killakobe81
06-16-2010, 01:47 AM
Just throw videos like this at them
Y7RGEVoHGMw
Boo hoo. You can also show the one where Shaq calls Kobe the best player in the NBA ...
we know now... neither mean that shit ...
OBTW .... Enjoy #5 bitches ...
MavDynasty
06-16-2010, 01:59 AM
LMAO kobe 16 pick of draft
Killakobe81
06-16-2010, 02:02 AM
LMAO kobe 16 pick of draft
LMAO I dont give two shits ...i was running to a meeting said it off the top of my head I was wrong crucify me ....
Ill be 2 busy celebrating to give two shits ...
yall are childish to care about trivia shit ...
"Oh Im aware tha Kobe was the 13th player taken in the draft" I am so smart!!!!!
Even though I post ridiculous crap and I have the nerve to have on my sig "Mavsdynasty" ...
When did that dynasty happen?
I must of missed it ... LMAO
Was that before 2005 or after Goldenstate 1 vs. 8?
cobbler
06-16-2010, 07:13 AM
LMAO kobe 16 pick of draft
LMAO at butthurt and ignorant Mave fan cause his bandwagon is crumbling.
He was the 13th pick moron.
Chieflion
06-16-2010, 07:34 AM
LMAO at butthurt and ignorant Mave fan cause his bandwagon is crumbling.
He was the 13th pick moron.
Actually killakobe81 was the one who said Kobe was the 16th pick of that draft.
Giuseppe
06-16-2010, 07:39 AM
Actually killakobe81 was the one who said Kobe was the 16th pick of that draft.
This is like the spelling indictment/laughable.
dallasmavsnfuego214
06-16-2010, 09:39 AM
Send Em To The Grave Cully!!!!!
Take No Prisoners!!!!
MavDynasty
06-16-2010, 02:00 PM
LMAO at butthurt and ignorant Mave fan cause his bandwagon is crumbling.
He was the 13th pick moron.
you dumbfuck it was your own bandwagoning fuckstick fanbase member who said kobe was the 16th pick. someone who dickrides kobe so hard should know what pick he was.
lol bandwagoning fucksticks
Ashy Larry
06-16-2010, 03:06 PM
Even though I post ridiculous crap and I have the nerve to have on my sig "Mavsdynasty" ...
during the 80s but they kept running into that Showtime train ....
or maybe it was in the 90s with 3J. At least Kobe and Shaquille f'd up the 2000 dynasty. Pussy fucked up the 3J dynasty. Go Toni Braxton.
during the 80s but they kept running into that Showtime train ....
or maybe it was in the 90s with 3J. At least Kobe and Shaquille f'd up the 2000 dynasty. Pussy fucked up the 3J dynasty. Go Toni Braxton.
Funny you say that but the Mavs have not played the Lake show in the playoffs since Cuban took over the team.
When you think of the four winningest West teams during that time period you think
Spurs
Mavs
Suns
Lakers
Since Cuban took control of the team
Lakers and Spurs have faced off 5 times
Suns and Spurs have met 5 times
Spurs and Mavs have met 5 times
Lakers and Suns have met 3 times
Mavs and Suns have met 2 times
Lakers and Mavs 0
The Kings played a big part of this as well, as the Mavs met them 3 years in a row and lost to them twice
Killakobe81
06-16-2010, 03:45 PM
This is like the spelling indictment/laughable.
Oh woe is me ... I did not remember that Kobe was the 13th pick ...
Losers.
Only douchebags pull the spelling or Oh wait you gave the wrong stat or player trivia card ...
And some of them were All-Spurs talk posters ...stay classy ...
Funny thing is Im glad so many remember Kobe's draft slot that was the day that Duncan, KG and many others had to fight for 2nd best of THEIR generation ...LMAO ....
ChrisRichards
06-16-2010, 04:05 PM
lol @ 16th pick :lol
Ashy Larry
06-16-2010, 04:05 PM
Funny you say that but the Mavs have not played the Lake show in the playoffs since Cuban took over the team.
When you think of the four winningest West teams during that time period you think
Spurs
Mavs
Suns
Lakers
Since Cuban took control of the team
Lakers and Spurs have faced off 5 times
Suns and Spurs have met 5 times
Spurs and Mavs have met 5 times
Lakers and Suns have met 3 times
Mavs and Suns have met 2 times
Lakers and Mavs 0
The Kings played a big part of this as well, as the Mavs met them 3 years in a row and lost to them twice
true, probably best for the Mavs that they didnt face those early three peat squads.
MavDynasty
06-16-2010, 04:06 PM
lol
Roddy Beaubois
06-16-2010, 04:10 PM
yes, that is Still funny 24 hours later ...
What an original post! the originality ...the intelligence!!!
Why dont you contribute something to a thread?
Oh wait your bitchass team lost in teh first round to a team that got swept in the 2nd ...
Change my mind dont speak you beneath me ...
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