To those who blamed Lebron James for quitting Game 5 against Boston...

[TheMACHINE]

You guys are the same fucktards who are blaming Kobe for not passing the ball to his teammates when he took over the game last night.

Bunch of flip flopping bitches.

[angrydude]

It's called balance.

[Shastafarian]

You guys are the same fucktards who are blaming Kobe for not passing the ball to his teammates when he took over the game last night.

Bunch of flip flopping bitches.

http://www.trsg.net/24/images/now/Error.jpg

[TheMACHINE]

bullshit.

If the Spurs were down 10 points in the 3rd and Manu went 7-9 shooting, none of you faggots would whine that his selfishness took away the rhythm of Bonner, Duncan and Hill.

[Man In Black]

1 against 5 is not the way to win a title. Open your eyes. Didn't Kobe and you(his fans) learn that in 2004 against the Pistons?

If it was Ginobili going 7 of 9, he still would have found a way to use at least 1 other teammate. Recognize. That's the difference here...Manu doesn't give a fuck if he goes for 20 or not. He just wants the W. If he has to score 20, he'll try to give you that but not at the expense of playing TEAM.

[TheMACHINE]

1 against 5 is not the way to win a title. Open your eyes. Didn't Kobe and you(his fans) learn that in 2004 against the Pistons?

If it was Ginobili going 7 of 9, he still would have found a way to use at least 1 other teammate. Recognize. That's the difference here...Manu doesn't give a fuck if he goes for 20 or not. He just wants the W. If he has to score 20, he'll try to give you that but not at the expense of playing TEAM.

uh ok...yah...right....and my unicorn got shot by Frosty the Snowman.

:rolleyes

[Amaso]

Please don't try to use Manu as an example of what Kobe did... they are in completely different leagues.

[TheMACHINE]

Please don't try to use Manu as an example of what Kobe did... they are in completely different leagues.

but but but the filipino dude above says that not only Manu would go 7-9 but also would get people involved!!

[Obstructed_View]

bullshit.

If the Spurs were down 10 points in the 3rd and Manu went 7-9 shooting, none of you faggots would whine that his selfishness took away the rhythm of Bonner, Duncan and Hill.

Manu wouldn't shoot fadeaway three pointers against double teams. He would also have mixed in a couple of big defensive plays or a rebound. See Rondo, Rajon.

[TheMACHINE]

Manu wouldn't shoot fadeaway three pointers against double teams. He would also have mixed in a couple of big defensive plays or a rebound. See Rondo, Rajon.

that right...Manu is to busy goin 2-11 in pivotal games with normal jumpers, why do a fade away shot over double teams.

[TJastal]

My 2 cents, I agree w/ Luva.

I thought Kobe did his best to keep the lakers in the game, if not for that extraordinary shot-making in the 3rd quarter the lakers would have been blown out.

The problem is the laker bigs & Artest have been dissappointments for the most part. Bynum is softer than tissue paper physically and Gasol is mentally soft, Odom is unreliable, and Artest's mobility, athleticism, and shooting touch is in serious decline.

You guys should have resigned Trevor Ariza, he would have been a big difference in this series. His ball hawking defense on the perimeter would have helped slow down Rondo and Pierce who are killing the lakers in transition and also by getting into the lane easily. Not to mention he would have given the lakers better clutch 3pt shooting.

Ahh, well 4 more years of Ron Artest and his planar fascitis flare ups .. have fun laker fans. :lol

[Man In Black]

Cry all you want Machine. Sasha still sucks and your team has no bench. But still, Balance is what wins titles. And the LAL is not...BALANCED.

[Giuseppe]

Cry all you want Machine. Sasha still sucks and your team has no bench. But still, Balance is what wins titles. And the LAL is not...BALANCED.

And still is defending NBA Champion.

[Muser]

Umm, LeBron did quit.

[TheMACHINE]

Cry all you want Machine. Sasha still sucks and your team has no bench. But still, Balance is what wins titles. And the LAL is not...BALANCED.

lol...You say how we have no Bench...and you end your statement with "Balance"....

ummm okkkk. :rolleyes

[TheMACHINE]

Umm, LeBron did quit.

or is it Lebron just trying to get his teamates involved.

[IronMexican]

:lol I've never actually seen Machine rage. It's funny. He's always maintained his cool.

[024]

everyone knows lebron lost that game on purpose so he would have an excuse to bail on that sorry ass, no talent, no future cleveland team. duh.

[Obstructed_View]

that right...Manu is to busy goin 2-11 in pivotal games with normal jumpers, why do a fade away shot over double teams.

You don't really want to get into a conversation about what Kobe does in pivotal games. :lol

[Muser]

or is it Lebron just trying to get his teamates involved.

Nope, just LeBron standing in the corner doing nothing whilst the world laughs at Mo freakin' Williams trying to be a decent role player.

[D-Wade #3]

You don't really want to get into a conversation about what Kobe does in pivotal games. :lol

Asks if he can bust a nut and gets rejected by a white girl?

[BadOdor]

I think other than kobe's poor shooting % in some of the games, he's played well - great D on rondo, big-time defensive moves, etc.

Gasol fooled me there for a second. After game 1, I though to myself he actually grew some balls. I was obviously wrong.

[dbestpro]

The comparison should not be what Manu would do, but rather what would Michael do? Jordan always found a way to score his points aaaaaaaand create scoring opportunites to for his team mates.

[Muser]

Odom is the one to blame.

[mingus]

i believe he did quit. he just does a better job of making it look like an "off game" than Kobe.

i do blame Kobe for starting this whole practice of quiting on your team in order to make some kind of statement. i haven't seen the NBA for many years, but as far back as i've been paying attention, Kobe is the pioneer of this inexcusable act. both of their careers will be defined by it as much as anything else.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I simply think Lebron quit and Kobe wants to win. The douche Spurfan posts in this thread about how Manu doesn't care, HE JUST WANTS TO WIN! Are hilarious. Kobe started forcing this issue when his team was down by 11 and the game was slipping away. Everyone criticized Lebron for not doing the same thing, so this thread calling out hypocrisy is perfectly reasonable. When the game is slipping away, the superstar is supposed to take over and keep his team in it. Sometimes, that's not enough, but that's what a superstar is supposed to do. That's what Kobe did, and that's what Lebron didn't do.

[Muser]

I simply think Lebron quit and Kobe wants to win. The douche Spurfan posts in this thread about how Manu doesn't care, HE JUST WANTS TO WIN! Are hilarious. Kobe started forcing this issue when his team was down by 11 and the game was slipping away. Everyone criticized Lebron for not doing the same thing, so this thread calling out hypocrisy is perfectly reasonable. When the game is slipping away, the superstar is supposed to take over and keep his team in it. Sometimes, that's not enough, but that's what a superstar is supposed to do. That's what Kobe did, and that's what Lebron didn't do.

:tu

[TheMACHINE]

Son..its all bout defense...If Kobe AND the Lakers were only able to get some stops during the third, the ball game woulda been different. Boston simply matched each of Kobe's points.

[TheMACHINE]

I simply think Lebron quit and Kobe wants to win. The douche Spurfan posts in this thread about how Manu doesn't care, HE JUST WANTS TO WIN! Are hilarious. Kobe started forcing this issue when his team was down by 11 and the game was slipping away. Everyone criticized Lebron for not doing the same thing, so this thread calling out hypocrisy is perfectly reasonable. When the game is slipping away, the superstar is supposed to take over and keep his team in it. Sometimes, that's not enough, but that's what a superstar is supposed to do. That's what Kobe did, and that's what Lebron didn't do.

Bingo

[Obstructed_View]

The comparison should not be what Manu would do, but rather what would Michael do? Jordan always found a way to score his points aaaaaaaand create scoring opportunites to for his team mates.

Jordan didn't rely on making low percentage shots at a high rate at any point in his career. He broke down defenses and used his teammates to help him do it. Kobe doesn't deserve a Jordan comparison other than to say he doesn't deserve one. :dizzy

[z0sa]

:lol typically you call out some specific people unless you wanna be deemed a pussy.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Son..its all bout defense...If Kobe AND the Lakers were only able to get some stops during the third, the ball game woulda been different. Boston simply matched each of Kobe's points.


Truth, and Boston did a great job making sure Kobe's offense didn't trickle down to the entire team. They did what you're supposed to do, weather the Kobe onslaught knowing that the last thing you want is for his teammates to get going while he's hot.

[Obstructed_View]

I simply think Lebron quit and Kobe wants to win. The douche Spurfan posts in this thread about how Manu doesn't care, HE JUST WANTS TO WIN! Are hilarious. Kobe started forcing this issue when his team was down by 11 and the game was slipping away. Everyone criticized Lebron for not doing the same thing, so this thread calling out hypocrisy is perfectly reasonable. When the game is slipping away, the superstar is supposed to take over and keep his team in it. Sometimes, that's not enough, but that's what a superstar is supposed to do. That's what Kobe did, and that's what Lebron didn't do.

And the result at the end of Kobe taking over was his team...being down by 11.

[TheMACHINE]

:lol I've never actually seen Machine rage. It's funny. He's always maintained his cool.

lol..im usually cool and i can easily understand opposing views. but the HYPOCRISY today just got me all "fired up".

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/Janthony019/rjc-machine-sasha-on-fire.jpg

[mingus]

part of the reason Boston scored so much was because of rebounds that they got from Kobe's impossible shots and rocketed up court to score, not allowing LA's defense to set up. Kobe fucked up his team's chances to win that game on those shots as much he kept them in the game with shot-making. the proof is in the score.

[TheMACHINE]

And the result at the end of Kobe taking over was his team...being down by 11.

blame the defense.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

And the result at the end of Kobe taking over was his team...being down by 11.


If he didn't take over his team woulda been down by 20+, Kobe going nuts in the 3rd is what kept LA in the game.

[Obstructed_View]

If he didn't take over his team woulda been down by 20+, Kobe going nuts in the 3rd is what kept LA in the game.

Nah, you're being conservative. They'd have been down by 30; that's how good Kobe is! There's no better way to get your team involved in the game than to take all the shots no matter how many defenders chase you around! That's how all the great players do it.

[Veterinarian]

I hate to say it but that douche OV is right on in this thread. The diff between Jordan and Kobe is when its time to take over Jordan took high percentage shots and penalized his opponents for doubling him. Kobe just takes a bunch of hero type fadeaways with a 9.9 degree of difficulty.

[Obstructed_View]

blame the defense.

I guess Kobe can't be bothered to play defense when he's jacking up all the shots on the other end, huh?

[LnGrrrR]

If he didn't take over his team woulda been down by 20+, Kobe going nuts in the 3rd is what kept LA in the game.

This.

[Obstructed_View]

I hate to say it but that douche OV is right on in this thread. The diff between Jordan and Kobe is when its time to take over Jordan took high percentage shots and penalized his opponents for doubling him. Kobe just takes a bunch of hero type fadeaways with a 9.9 degree of difficulty.

I hate to say it but you're too big a pussy to post as yourself.

[TheMACHINE]

I hate to say it but that douche OV is right on in this thread. The diff between Jordan and Kobe is when its time to take over Jordan took high percentage shots and penalized his opponents for doubling him. Kobe just takes a bunch of hero type fadeaways with a 9.9 degree of difficulty.

no one in here is trying to compare Kobe to Jordan (other then OV).

Anyways..so he makes some crazy shots...he made 50% of them. Who gives a fuck as long as it goes in.

[TheMACHINE]

I guess Kobe can't be bothered to play defense when he's jacking up all the shots on the other end, huh?

last time i check, Kobe was part of the defense...hence, blame the defense.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Nah, you're being conservative. They'd have been down by 30; that's how good Kobe is!


That's not how good Kobe is, that's how bad his supporting cast was yesterday. Him trying to get his teammates involved wasn't working, anyone who thinks Kobe didn't try his best to will his team to a win last night is an idiot. He also scored 19 points the 1st 6 minutes of the 3rd, it's not like he shot his team out of the game. He was on fire and kept shooting. I'm sure if he was missing he woulda done something different.

[Obstructed_View]

no one in here is trying to compare kobe to jordan (other then ov).

rif


the comparison should not be what manu would do, but rather what would michael do? Jordan always found a way to score his points aaaaaaaand create scoring opportunites to for his team mates.

[Obstructed_View]

That's not how good Kobe is, that's how bad his supporting cast was yesterday. Him trying to get his teammates involved wasn't working, anyone who thinks Kobe didn't try his best to will his team to a win last night is an idiot. He also scored 19 points the 1st 6 minutes of the 3rd, it's not like he shot his team out of the game. He was on fire and kept shooting. I'm sure if he was missing he woulda done something different.

Yes, it's always someone else's fault when he loses, and all on him when he wins. He's the Dallas Mavericks personified.

[z0sa]

Nah, you're being conservative. They'd have been down by 30; that's how good Kobe is! There's no better way to get your team involved in the game than to take all the shots no matter how many defenders chase you around! That's how all the great players do it.

What's even greater logic is the implication that Kobe had nothing to do with them being down 11 when he decided to "take over."

[Cane]

If people watched the Celtics then they'd realize that they're playing incredible defense. They've been exposing teams weaknesses and proving to be a tougher team than all of their opponents....and these guys are all hated by the refs yet have stolen HCA throughout the playoffs. Shaping up to be one crazy championship story if Boston takes it all.

The Lakers are also not that great of an offensive team thats also dealing with a weakened Bynum. Their three point shooting sucks and their offense is based around moving the ball around (LA had 12 assists last game and averaged 20 in the playoffs so far) while having 2 seven footers on the court. LA would be able to score much easier if their twin towers were healthy unfortunately now they're forced to adjust their minutes to Bynum's injury and don't seem to have the depth to answer Boston's. Sheed has been great on defense and has been able to play both Howard and Gasol 1v1 and his efforts have been phenomenal compared to the regular season. Who the hell would've thought that Shrek and Donkey would be heroes of a Finals game as well...

[cobbler]

I simply think Lebron quit and Kobe wants to win. The douche Spurfan posts in this thread about how Manu doesn't care, HE JUST WANTS TO WIN! Are hilarious. Kobe started forcing this issue when his team was down by 11 and the game was slipping away. Everyone criticized Lebron for not doing the same thing, so this thread calling out hypocrisy is perfectly reasonable. When the game is slipping away, the superstar is supposed to take over and keep his team in it. Sometimes, that's not enough, but that's what a superstar is supposed to do. That's what Kobe did, and that's what Lebron didn't do.

The voice of reason.

Anyone who has issues with the way Kobe played last night and say he wasn't involving his teammates is either a hater or just has no basketball IQ.

So when you pass the ball to the bigs and they falter, dribble the clock out, and make no real move to get inside and pass it out of desperation to Kobe to bail them out with seconds left... Kobe's jacking shots.

Come on guys. Has Kobe been a ballhog in thr past? Of course. Will he play games in the future where he is a hog? No doubt. Was he hogging the ball and jacking shots last night? Not even close. As DOK said, he felt out the game, gave his teammates plenty of opportunities to make plays and they came of short everytime with their soft play and lack of desire. He took the game over in the 3rd and had he not done so they lose by 20+. You act like they were playing great and he took them out of it by shooting the majority of the shots in the 3rd. Funny how the supporting cast played the same both before and after the barrage. Go figure.

Your hatred is blinding you or you just simply don't kn ow basketball.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Yes, it's always someone else's fault when he loses, and all on him when he wins. He's the Dallas Mavericks personified.


Last night happened to not be his fault. Game 2 was clearly his fault because that was a situation when Gasol shoulda been getting the touches down the stretch when he had Boston's entire front line in foul trouble and Kobe went into "I'm gonna be the closer!" mode.

[TheMACHINE]

Yes, it's always someone else's fault when he loses, and all on him when he wins. He's the Dallas Mavericks personified.


Your "view" would make perfect sense if I looked at the box score and saw a bunch of high fg% from other teammates. :rolleyes

yet, you rather view the guy who shot close to 50%. "lets blame Kobe and not the PF who cant post up in the past 3 games...or the other PF that left his balls inside Khloe....lets blame Kobe!"

[Veterinarian]

I hate to say it but you're too big a pussy to post as yourself.

Not true, you loved saying that. Just be happy someone's agreeing with you, ya douche. Even if you don't know who they are.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Yes, it's always someone else's fault when he loses, and all on him when he wins. He's the Dallas Mavericks personified.


Btw I find this funny as hell coming from a member of a fan base that thinks David Stern conspires against the Spurs and that the Spurs were just SO good they won 4 rings against the conspiracy.

[z0sa]

Btw I find this funny as hell coming from a member of a fan base that thinks David Stern conspires against the Spurs and that the Spurs were just SO good they won 4 rings against the conspiracy.

Are you ever not generalizing a large group of diverse people?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Are you ever not generalizing a large group of diverse people?


You had every right to make this comment until you revealed your hidden Antisemitism. Now you're no less of a generalizing racism than I am.

[TheMACHINE]

Btw I find this funny as hell coming from a member of a fan base that thinks David Stern conspires against the Spurs and that the Spurs were just SO good they won 4 rings against the conspiracy.

whoa..is that the spurs fans excuse for winning 4 rings?! Seriously?! LOL They won DESPITE crooked officials?! :rollin:blah

[cobbler]

And the result at the end of Kobe taking over was his team...being down by 11.

As opposed to the 25 they would have been down had the other players who were shooting like 25% for the game been taking those shots.

So you are telling me, when a player gets hot, any player, you only feed him a couple because you don't want the teammates to be butthurt they are not getting shots at the time? That is moronic basketball. You feed the hot guy. Kobe distributed the whole game except in that stretch when he got hot.

Maybe the other players need to step up? Ever thought of that concept? Nooo, I'm hot. I've made 7 in a row and kept my team in the game and i have a wide open look. Shoot again? Noooo.... I'll pass it over the guy standing around and who is 2-10 cause I don't want his precious little ego to be bruised.

Unbelievable!!!!

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

They won DESPITE crooked officials?! :rollin:blah


An oddly large number of Spurs fans on this site truly believe the Spurs won in spite of a league wide conspiracy to prevent them from winning. No joke.

[cobbler]

part of the reason Boston scored so much was because of rebounds that they got from Kobe's impossible shots and rocketed up court to score, not allowing LA's defense to set up. Kobe fucked up his team's chances to win that game on those shots as much he kept them in the game with shot-making. the proof is in the score.

Idiotic post

[BadOdor]

You had every right to make this comment until you revealed your hidden Antisemitism. Now you're no less of a generalizing racism than I am.

He's also a creationist.

lol zosa.

[TheMACHINE]

An oddly large number of Spurs fans on this site truly believe the Spurs won in spite of a league wide conspiracy to prevent them from winning. No joke.

the SPURS were THAT good I tell you!

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

He's also a creationist.

:lmao Like one of the creationists who are really bat shit crazy and think the world has only been around for 5,000 years, or a more modernized creationist who believes in "intelligent design"?

[024]

everyone knows the poor 2007 finals ratings forced stern to order the celtics and lakers trades.

[BadOdor]

:lmao Like one of the creationists who are really bat shit crazy and think the world has only been around for 5,000 years, or a more modernized creationist who believes in "intelligent design"?

Sons, does it matter?

lol zosa.

[Shastafarian]

:lmao Like one of the creationists who are really bat shit crazy and think the world has only been around for 5,000 years, or a more modernized creationist who believes in "intelligent design"?

The deuce I think.

[z0sa]

Now you're no less of a generalizing racism than I am.

You're roughly 5,000 times the racist I am, going off racist posts as the sole criterion. So no, you're completely wrong. I'm far, far less of a generalizing racist than you.

btw, nice job being butthurt about those jokes still :lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

You're roughly 5,000 times the racist I am, going off racist posts as the sole criterion. So no, I'm far less of a generalizing racist than you.

Yeah, but I'd rather be a racist than a simple minded douche who believes in creationism.

lol z0sa

[z0sa]

Hey BadOdor, shouldn't you wishing some people with better lives and more ambition than you were dead?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

btw, nice job being butthurt about those jokes still :lol


:lmao:lmao:lmao You seriously think I'm butthurt? I found it hilarious, all you would ever did was whine about my racist comments, and then once you found out I was Jewish you started up the Antisemitic comments.

lol z0sa
lol creationism

[BadOdor]

Hey BadOdor, shouldn't you wishing some people with better lives and more ambition than you were dead?

I'd rather wish people who believe in creationism die, tbh. Will improve the gene pool.

lol creationism.

lol zosa.

[z0sa]

You seriously think I'm butthurt?

It's pretty obvious. I'm not the only one who called you out over the racism shit either, but one must assume sensible minded people consider you a piece of shit even if they don't say anything.

[cobbler]

You're roughly 5,000 times the racist I am, going off racist posts as the sole criterion. So no, you're completely wrong. I'm far, far less of a generalizing racist than you.

btw, nice job being butthurt about those jokes still :lol

If you tell, laugh, or take part in any racist joke, you are a racist!

~HarletHeat37~

:lmao

[BadOdor]

It's pretty obvious. I'm not the only one who called you out over the racism shit either, but one must assume sensible minded people consider you a piece of shit even if they don't say anything.

lol a creationist talking about sensible minded people.

lol the irony.

lol creationism.

[z0sa]

Will improve the gene pool.

Your parents being sterilized at birth woulda helped accomplish that.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

lol a creationist talking about sensible minded people.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

They believe in a theory with absolutely no sense or logical backing, yet they talk about being sensible minded.

[z0sa]

sensible minded

Is that wishing death upon a 16 year old girl?

[z0sa]

with absolutely no sense or logical backing, yet they talk about being sensible minded.

You know what makes a lot of sense? A white supremacist living in Arizona.

[z0sa]

If you tell, laugh, or take part in any racist joke, you are a racist!

~HarletHeat37~

:lmao

If it "tell, laugh at, and take part thousands of documented times", I'd have to agree.

But as for one or two here or there that are clearly jokes meant to prove a point, no, you'd have to really, really butthurt to call someone a racist.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

It's pretty obvious. I'm not the only one who called you out over the racism shit either, but one must assume sensible minded people consider you a piece of shit even if they don't say anything.


If sensible minded people mean evangelical religious people and fat beaners consider me a piece of shit, then I'm accomplishing my goal.

[TheMACHINE]

what's up with the thread hi-jacking!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

A white supremacist living in Arizona.


There you go again stereotyping :lmao

[z0sa]

There you go again stereotyping :lmao

lol thinking calling someone a fatass and a beaner for no reason is the same as calling a clear racist a white supremacist.

Are you even Jewish? I bet you got blonde hair and blue eyes, Hitler Youth wannabe.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

lol thinking calling someone a fatass and a beaner for no reason is the same as calling a clear racist a white supremacist.

Are you even Jewish? I bet you got blonde hair and blue eyes, Hitler Youth wannabe.


You were stereotyping Arizonans, you stereotyper you.

[cobbler]

If it "tell, laugh at, and take part thousands of documented times", I'd have to agree.

But as for one or two here or there that are clearly jokes meant to prove a point, no, you'd have to really, really butthurt to call someone a racist.

Ohhhh noooo. I am labeled a racist by Harlem because I said I can see where the Spanish team made a mistake but also respect their assertion that it was all meant in fun. Pau IS A RACIST SOLEY based on that one picture.

:lmao

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Are you even Jewish? I bet you got blonde hair and blue eyes, Hitler Youth wannabe.


:lmao an Antisemite accusing someone of being in Hitler young, you redefine hypocrisy

[z0sa]

:lmao an Antisemite accusing someone of being in Hitler young, you redefine hypocrisy


But as for one or two here or there that are clearly jokes meant to prove a point, no, you'd have to really, really butthurt to call someone an [antisemite].

You're not even Jewish, it's just a card you decided to play whenever people started calling you a racist white supremacist.

lol thousands of documented racial slurs yet calls others racists over a joke

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

You're not even Jewish, it's just a card you decided to play whenever people started calling you a racist white supremacist.

lol thousands of documented racial slurs


Timeout. I'm not really Jewish, but I'm really butthurt over your Antisemitic comments......makes perfect sense.

[Cry Havoc]

:lmao:lmao:lmao You seriously think I'm butthurt?

"I'm not butthurt, I just have to resort to ad-hominem attacks to show how superior I am to you!"

Interesting logic.

[z0sa]

Ohhhh noooo. I am labeled a racist by Harlem because I said I can see where the Spanish team made a mistake but also respect their assertion that it was all meant in fun. Pau IS A RACIST SOLEY based on that one picture.

:lmao

I don't think Pau is a racist.. was that a mistake? Yep.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

"I'm not butthurt, I just have to resort to ad-hominem attacks to show how superior I am to you!"

Interesting logic.


Idk where I resorted to an ad-hominem attack.

[z0sa]

Timeout. I'm not really Jewish, but I'm really butthurt over your Antisemitic comments......makes perfect sense.

Probably has something to do with your over sized ego.

[Cry Havoc]

Idk where I resorted to an ad-hominem attack.

You might want to look up the definition, then.

[m33p0]

what does bronbron got to do with this?






(btw, he did quit)

[SomeCallMeTim]

Manu wouldn't shoot fadeaway three pointers against double teams. He would also have mixed in a couple of big defensive plays or a rebound. See Rondo, Rajon.

I disagree with your first sentence. Manu has been known to gunsling with just about anyone. But when he's got a hot hand, like Kobe, it's hard to disagree with it... it works.

But I gotta agree with your second sentences. Kobe's defense was atrocious yesterday. I know "The plan" is to let Rondo shoot open jumpers, but

a) it doesn't give Kobe license to give him wide-open-look-Kobe-isn't-even-in-the-same-zipcode looks

b) Kobe ain't wreaking havoc playing free safety anyway so he might as well man up a bit on D and make Rondo sweat a bit

Look, I'm not dumping on Kobe and the fools saying "bu-bu-bu-but Kobe didn't pass the ball!" just don't get it. He played a fantastic offensive game unlike Game 4 with a bajillion turnovers (and, I might add, unlike Rondo who had a gazillion turnovers of his own in Game 5).

But he was not great on both ends and it is fair to criticize his D. "C'mon Kobe, you're better than that!"

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

You might want to look up the definition, then.


Just show me the example then. I'm quite confident I know what an ad hominem argument is. If you're referring to me insulting or talking shit to Mr. Creationist, that's not an ad-hominem attack, that's simply a demeaning insult, which I'm well aware of.

[z0sa]

I'm quite confident I know what an ad hominem argument is. If you're referring to me insulting or talking shit to Mr. Creationist, that's not an ad-hominem attack, that's simply a demeaning insult, which I'm well aware of.


Ad hominem abusive

Ad hominem abusive usually involves insulting or belittling one's opponent, but can also involve pointing out factual but ostensible character flaws or actions which are irrelevant to the opponent's argument.