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George Gervin's Afro
06-14-2010, 09:07 PM
when the dems retain control of both houses and Obama wins a second term...

ChumpDumper
06-14-2010, 09:08 PM
If that happens, it'll be about the same with some more vote fraud allegations.

Yonivore
06-14-2010, 09:09 PM
when the dems retain control of both houses and Obama wins a second term...
Probably illegal.

jack sommerset
06-14-2010, 09:10 PM
On Wednesday I will be banging Bridgett Fonda's ass while her mom eats her pussy.

Wild Cobra
06-14-2010, 09:45 PM
when the dems retain control of both houses and Obama wins a second term...

A living hell.

ElNono
06-14-2010, 10:33 PM
Probably the usual bitching/bickering from the usual suspects, YouTubes and all...

Blake
06-14-2010, 11:04 PM
when the dems retain control of both houses and Obama wins a second term...

more regurgitated crap that was heard from Rush/Hannity or Palin

Winehole23
06-15-2010, 02:32 AM
when the dems retain control of both houses and Obama wins a second term...That's two very big ifs, but it could happen.

Winehole23
06-15-2010, 02:33 AM
You should definitely keep the champagne on ice.

Winehole23
06-15-2010, 02:37 AM
Probably illegal.Curious. ChumpyD said you'd say something like that.

Winehole23
06-15-2010, 02:51 AM
Did you mean to be an echo?

Winehole23
06-15-2010, 04:00 AM
On Wednesday I will be banging Bridgett Fonda's ass while her mom eats her pussy.In your mind you already did.

Winehole23
06-15-2010, 04:04 AM
(Thanks for sharing. Such magnanimous self disclosure seldom goes completely unappreciated. Thanks again for the chuckle.)

ciao,


wino

DarrinS
06-15-2010, 07:05 AM
This scenario is highly probable.

Cry Havoc
06-15-2010, 09:06 AM
when the dems retain control of both houses and Obama wins a second term...

Don't the Republicans have to come up with a legitimate presidential candidate before they can start talking about taking the White House back?

Right now all I see on their masthead is Sarah Palin.

RandomGuy
06-15-2010, 09:08 AM
when the dems retain control of both houses and Obama wins a second term...

Some fair analysis puts the odds of the Dems losing the House as the current most likely outcome. This is not to say "probable", only that it is slightly more likely than any other outcome, such as losses but retaining control, which is a close second.

Senate seems likely to stay majority Democrat, with some Democratic losses.

At this point, Obama has lost me for the most part. I will vote, but not actively campaign for him. He will likely get a second term anyways simply given historical trends.

As a Democrat, I would love for the GOP to get control of the government at this point. I have faith in their complete inability to come up with workable ideas and decent policy solutions, and the challenging economic and geo-political climate would very surely reveal the glaring failure of modern conservatism to address real world problems once and for all.

Modern conservatism and the GOP has been taken over by religious idiots and other zealots whose priorities and concept of the world bear little resemblence to reality, and the faster that is made patently obvious, the sooner we can get around to actually fixing problems.

RandomGuy
06-15-2010, 09:11 AM
Don't the Republicans have to come up with a legitimate presidential candidate before they can start talking about taking the White House back?

Right now all I see on their masthead is Sarah Palin.

There is a reason why it seems that Rick Perry has spent more time mentioning the federal government and Obama than he has talking about issues actually dealing with Texas specifically.

The GOP field is wide open. I would LOVE for Palin to get the nod. :lmao

jack sommerset
06-15-2010, 09:49 AM
Don't the Republicans have to come up with a legitimate presidential candidate before they can start talking about taking the White House back?

Obviously, no.

EVAY
06-15-2010, 09:57 AM
Obviously, no.

Au Contraire.

In 2008, I kept thinking (during the primaries) that the Dems were wretched for only being able to come up with a choice between a woman who had been the butt of late night jokes for the last 16 years (Hillary), or an untested African American. I couldn't believe that was what they came up with.


Then the Repbulican base made sure that Romney couldn't win the Republican nod, and they came up with a very old man who said he 'didn't know anything about economics', and a ditz who couldn't understand the policy positions they put in front of her.

The result? The democrats won.


It can happen again, for sure.

101A
06-15-2010, 09:59 AM
Some fair analysis puts the odds of the Dems losing the House as the current most likely outcome. This is not to say "probable", only that it is slightly more likely than any other outcome, such as losses but retaining control, which is a close second.

Senate seems likely to stay majority Democrat, with some Democratic losses.

At this point, Obama has lost me for the most part. I will vote, but not actively campaign for him. He will likely get a second term anyways simply given historical trends.

As a Democrat, I would love for the GOP to get control of the government at this point. I have faith in their complete inability to come up with workable ideas and decent policy solutions, and the challenging economic and geo-political climate would very surely reveal the glaring failure of modern conservatism to address real world problems once and for all.

Modern conservatism and the GOP has been taken over by religious idiots and other zealots whose priorities and concept of the world bear little resemblence to reality, and the faster that is made patently obvious, the sooner we can get around to actually fixing problems.


Please link the great successes of modern liberalism.

Also, since I am a "modern conservative"; please tell me who, exactly, I am being led by right now - the "idiots and zealots". You obviously know, but I am afraid I do not.

DarrinS
06-15-2010, 10:04 AM
Some fair analysis puts the odds of the Dems losing the House as the current most likely outcome. This is not to say "probable", only that it is slightly more likely than any other outcome, such as losses but retaining control, which is a close second.

Senate seems likely to stay majority Democrat, with some Democratic losses.

At this point, Obama has lost me for the most part. I will vote, but not actively campaign for him. He will likely get a second term anyways simply given historical trends.

As a Democrat, I would love for the GOP to get control of the government at this point. I have faith in their complete inability to come up with workable ideas and decent policy solutions, and the challenging economic and geo-political climate would very surely reveal the glaring failure of modern conservatism to address real world problems once and for all.

Modern conservatism and the GOP has been taken over by religious idiots and other zealots whose priorities and concept of the world bear little resemblence to reality, and the faster that is made patently obvious, the sooner we can get around to actually fixing problems.



Secular socialist European decay says hello.

EmptyMan
06-15-2010, 04:22 PM
Modern conservatism and the GOP has been taken over by religious idiots and other zealots whose priorities and concept of the world bear little resemblence to reality, and the faster that is made patently obvious, the sooner we can get around to actually fixing problems. lulz

The sooner we can get around to actually fixing problems...

I'll just continue laughing at the inability of this government to do anything. I'll continue being amused by the smoke and mirrors kiddie game. And I'll get a special kick out of the masses screwing themselves again during such times.

SnakeBoy
06-15-2010, 04:39 PM
At this point, Obama has lost me for the most part. I will vote, but not actively campaign for him. He will likely get a second term anyways simply given historical trends.

As a Democrat, I would love for the GOP to get control of the government at this point.

:lmao Guess the koolaid had a bitter after taste?

George Gervin's Afro
06-15-2010, 04:44 PM
:lmao Guess the koolaid had a bitter after taste?


I have faith in their complete inability to come up with workable ideas and decent policy solutions, and the challenging economic and geo-political climate would very surely reveal the glaring failure of modern conservatism to address real world problems once and for all.

You forgot the rest of the statement.

Nbadan
06-16-2010, 04:32 PM
As a Democrat, I would love for the GOP to get control of the government at this point. I have faith in their complete inability to come up with workable ideas and decent policy solutions, and the challenging economic and geo-political climate would very surely reveal the glaring failure of modern conservatism to address real world problems once and for all.

Are you nuts? I don't think this country could stand another 4 years of wing-nut conservatism...the wing-nuts can't see the short-comings in their policies because it benefits the Corporations, their masters, and the wealth-few over ever one else and they are delusion-ed into thinking that they will someday be in that super-wealthy few...

Nbadan
06-16-2010, 04:35 PM
Modern conservatism and the GOP has been taken over by religious idiots and other zealots whose priorities and concept of the world bear little resemblence to reality, and the faster that is made patently obvious, the sooner we can get around to actually fixing problem

That's exactly why the tea-baggers seem like misfits in their own party...they want smaller govt now, while the GOP wants bigger govt with more oversight over individuals and less oversight on companies..

TeyshaBlue
06-16-2010, 04:36 PM
Are you nuts? I don't think this country could stand another 4 years of wing-nut conservatism...the wing-nuts can't see the short-comings in their policies because it benefits the Corporations, their masters, and the wealth-few over ever one else and they are delusion-ed into thinking that they will someday be in that super-wealthy few...

The enlightened progressives:rolleyes seem to follow this same pattern.

Nbadan
06-16-2010, 04:41 PM
The enlightened progressives:rolleyes seem to follow this same pattern.

..pick your policy...

1. ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan

2. single-payer health-care

3. prosecuting the Bush Administration for crimes against humanity

4. Bank and Corporate bail-outs...

...there are lots of policies where Progressives and the Obama Administration don't see eye-to-eye...

TeyshaBlue
06-16-2010, 04:44 PM
..pick your policy...

1. ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan

2. single-payer health-care

3. prosecuting the Bush Administration for crimes against humanity

4. Bank and Corporate bail-outs...

...there are lots of policies where Progressives and the Obama Administration don't see eye-to-eye...

:lmao:lmao

Yonivore
06-16-2010, 04:55 PM
Probably illegal.
Hell, he may not wait until a second term...

Internet 'kill switch' proposed for US (http://www.zdnet.com.au/internet-kill-switch-proposed-for-us-339303838.htm)


A new US Senate Bill would grant the President far-reaching emergency powers to seize control of, or even shut down, portions of the internet.
And they're blaming porn.

'Epidemic' growth of Net porn cited (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jun/15/epidemic-growth-of-net-porn-cited/)

Nbadan
06-16-2010, 05:01 PM
...that's Neo-cunt Lieberman bill idiot...


Joe Lieberman, the primary sponsor of the measure and the chairman of the Homeland Security committee, told reporters on Thursday. Lieberman is an independent senator from Connecticut who meets with the Democrats.

Nbadan
06-16-2010, 05:03 PM
Even neocunt Lieberman isn't as bad as the Bush Administration was...


...the NCCC cannot order broadband providers or other companies to "conduct surveillance" of Americans unless it's otherwise legally authorised...

RandomGuy
06-16-2010, 05:18 PM
..pick your policy...

1. ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan

2. single-payer health-care

3. prosecuting the Bush Administration for crimes against humanity

4. Bank and Corporate bail-outs...

...there are lots of policies where Progressives and the Obama Administration don't see eye-to-eye...

1. Finish in Iraq and GTFO. Afghanistan: Stay there for as long at it takes. My guess is 40+ years. If Obama thinks he can get out, he is sorely mistaken.

2. Great idea. wish Obama would get on it.

3. Meh. There is a fair case for prosecuting people involvedin the torture of detainees.

4. good things. Bush was right to do them, and Obama was right to do them as well. We need to put mechanisms in place so taht they are never necessary again. Breaking up the big banks is probably a good start.

Nbadan
06-16-2010, 05:34 PM
Finish in Iraq and GTFO. Afghanistan: Stay there for as long at it takes. My guess is 40+ years. If Obama thinks he can get out, he is sorely mistaken.

There's little doubt that if we left Afghanistan in its current state that it would deteriorate into a regional terrorists nation again with strict Sharia laws for the populous under the ruthless Taliban...

Nbadan
06-16-2010, 05:38 PM
Great idea. wish Obama would get on it.

No doubt, anyone who thinks preventive health-care is too expensive is nuts....do you wait until your motor is shot to replace the oil and plugs? that's the system we have now, we wait till people break down in emergency rooms where the cost of care to taxpayers is exponentially higher and/or the person dies...

Nbadan
06-16-2010, 05:41 PM
Meh. There is a fair case for prosecuting people involvedin the torture of detainees.

There is a very good case if the U.S. govt. was subpoenaed to release all the evidence it is concealing under its National Security cloak

Nbadan
06-16-2010, 05:44 PM
good things. Bush was right to do them, and Obama was right to do them as well. We need to put mechanisms in place so taht they are never necessary again. Breaking up the big banks is probably a good start.

I know your right, but playing W.H. for a second, I can't help but wonder if this didn't just help lay the groundwork for the next derivative, speculative bubble we will be bailing out...

SnakeBoy
06-16-2010, 06:52 PM
1. Finish in Iraq and GTFO. Afghanistan: Stay there for as long at it takes. My guess is 40+ years. If Obama thinks he can get out, he is sorely mistaken.


Ah, the "liberal" neocons are coming out of the closet.

Wild Cobra
06-16-2010, 08:40 PM
Ah, the "liberal" neocons are coming out of the closet.
I'm confused over the time-line arguments. More than 60 years later and we're still in Germany.

Winehole23
06-17-2010, 02:29 AM
I'm confused over the time-line arguments. More than 60 years later and we're still in Germany. McCain wasn't. Referring to Germany and Korea, he said we should stay in Afghanistan for 100 years, if necessary.

Winehole23
06-17-2010, 02:32 AM
We need to put mechanisms in place so [that] they are never necessary again. Breaking up the big banks is probably a good start.Care to give odds on that hapening?

Even with Volcker on the inside and two Fed presidents clamoring for tougher rules, the language didn't make it into the bills. What are the chances it will be added back in conference and then passed in both bodies?

Winehole23
06-17-2010, 02:33 AM
Maybe you know something I don't. The bill establishes a resolution authority for the next cockup, but don't we still need one for this one?

Winehole23
06-17-2010, 02:34 AM
Hit to confidence would be too rough?

What?

Nbadan
06-17-2010, 02:40 AM
..the estimated 1 trillion dollars in new resources is a clear signal we don't intend to leave soon..that's for damn sure..

Nbadan
06-17-2010, 03:04 AM
Mine your own business..


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Winehole23
06-17-2010, 04:18 AM
Ah, the "liberal" neocons are coming out of the closet.They were never in the closet to start with. After Vietnam, it was always one big happy war party.(Scoop Jackson? Sam Nunn? Al Gore, even?)

The dems sometimes don their antiwar drag to electrify the base during the silly season, but they don't really mean it. Just look at the votes.