Spurs Fans - Market In Europe Is Set For Splitter 3 Years $43.5 Million

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Olympiacos has offer to Vassilis Spanoulis a contract that in NBA money is 3 years and $43.5 million ($14.5 million per season).

This will be highest contract in Europe. So if Spanoulis signs this contract then market for Splitter in Europe will be set. This can be maybe what he can ask for in Europe if some team will pay it like maybe Real Madrid.

Remember also in Europe not counted in the salary is a free house, free utilities, and a free car.

It seems if Splitter takes MLE to come to Spurs he is doing a huge favor for them when consider how much Spanoulis is offered in Europe.

[Mel_13]

I thought Spanoulis was going to be the highest paid player in Europe.


Oh, yeah....link?

[ChumpDumper]

Greeks sure know how to waste money.

[BadOdor]

Lol link.

[PGDynasty24]

Greeks sure know how to waste money.


hahahahaahahah

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I thought Spanoulis was going to be the highest paid player in Europe.


Oh, yeah....link?

The offer from Olympiacos will make him the highest paid in Europe. That is what I am saying. If Spanoulis signs this contract then Splitter will be able to ask for much more in Europe than he can ask for now.

This will set market for European players MUCH higher in Europe. As it is now only Childress had got such money and he is American and came from NBA.

So this could allow Splitter to ask for much more money in Europe and maybe some team like Real Madrid can pay it to him. If Spanoulis signs with Olympiacos it would be a huge increase in this summer market in Europe for a player like Splitter.

Right now he cannot ask for more than probably what Navarro makes. But I am sure if Spanoulis does sign then with Olympiacos that Splitter then can try to get much more. I do not think he can get as much as Spanoulis but he can still get a lot more than he could have before.

So if Spanoulis goes to Olympiacos and accepts that then this can make it much harder for the Spurs to get Splitter. MLE salary will start to look very small to him.

[Mel_13]

This will set market for European players MUCH higher in Europe. As it is now only Childress had got such money and he is American and came from NBA.

So you're saying that for the last two years, Childress has been getting paid a salary that is nearly equivalent to an NBA max contract?

Ok

[tdunk21]

The offer from Olympiacos will make him the highest paid in Europe. That is what I am saying. If Spanoulis signs this contract then Splitter will be able to ask for much more in Europe than he can ask for now.

This will set market for European players MUCH higher in Europe. As it is now only Childress had got such money and he is American and came from NBA.

So this could allow Splitter to ask for much more money in Europe and maybe some team like Real Madrid can pay it to him. If Spanoulis signs with Olympiacos it would be a huge increase in this summer market in Europe for a player like Splitter.

Right now he cannot ask for more than probably what Navarro makes. But I am sure if Spanoulis does sign then with Olympiacos that Splitter then can try to get much more. I do not think he can get as much as Spanoulis but he can still get a lot more than he could have before.

So if Spanoulis goes to Olympiacos and accepts that then this can make it much harder for the Spurs to get Splitter. MLE salary will start to look very small to him.

true but splitter wants to play in the nba.....

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

So you're saying that for the last two years, Childress has been getting paid a salary that is nearly equivalent to an NBA max contract?

Ok


Learn math.

NBA contracts deduct 42% for federal taxes (new tax rate law in US).NBA contracts deduct 8% for local taxes. ALL players pay this even ones in Texas and Florida. Look in NBA CBA rules each player is taxed locally per game by what city.

So Spurs players pay this local tax also even though fans here lie and say they do not. It is a CBA rule that they have to pay it.

NBA contracts deduct 8% for NBA player's union fee and for NBA retirement fund. These are not optional and every NBA player must pay it and lose it from their contract.

Also NBA teams do NOT pay the agent fees of players. Agent fees are 4% and players have to pay this out of their own contract money.

62% of the NBA player's contract is deducted. NBA has gross salaries reported only.

In Europe they only report net salary. The amount after all taxes, agent fees and everything is paid for.


Childress makes very close to NBA max contract and only idiots like you are too stupid to be able to grasp that. You can go play with Mogrovejo and the other morons that cannot do simple math and that cannot read the CBA agreement of the NBA.

All NBA fans do is say stupid things like "Duncan makes 20 millions". No he does not. Because 62% of his pay he never sees.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

true but splitter wants to play in the nba.....

Yes. But I do not think he will play in NBA for 1/3 the money.

[Mel_13]

Learn math.

NBA contracts deduct 42% for federal taxes (new tax rate law in US).NBA contracts deduct 8% for local taxes. ALL players pay this even ones in Texas and Florida. Look in NBA CBA rules each player is taxed locally per game by what city.

So Spurs players pay this local tax also even though fans here lie and say they do not. It is a CBA rule that they have to pay it.

NBA contracts deduct 8% for NBA player's union fee and for NBA retirement fund. These are not optional and every NBA player must pay it and lose it from their contract.

Also NBA teams do NOT pay the agent fees of players. Agent fees are 4% and players have to pay this out of their own contract money.

62% of the NBA player's contract is deducted. NBA has gross salaries reported only.

In Europe they only report net salary. The amount after all taxes, agent fees and everything is paid for.


Childress makes very close to NBA max contract and only idiots like you are too stupid to be able to grasp that. You can go play with Mogrovejo and the other morons that cannot do simple math and that cannot read the CBA agreement of the NBA.

All NBA fans do is say stupid things like "Duncan makes 20 millions". No he does not. Because 62% of his pay he never sees.

Pythagoras

Euclid

KBP

Great Greek mathematicians all.

[Blackjack]

Greek civil unrest

Economy in shambles

V-Span gets paid, yo!

[TimDunkem]

lol Splitter will get dominated by Matt Bonner and Brian Scalabrine.
How will he get dominated by two guys who won't even play next year? That makes no sense.

[tdunk21]

Lol KBP

lol Splitter is going to suck balls in the NBA like the sissy cuckold he is

lol Splitter will get dominated by Matt Bonner and Brian Scalabrine.

coming from a knicks fan :lmao

[TimDunkem]

I am saying he is going to suck ass and get dominated by the ginger fury when he matches up against them.

Splitter is a pussy and is going to suck here.
The gingers are worse than Splitter could ever be. When would he match up with them?

[TimDunkem]

The Ginger Wafer Twins can actually jump a little bit off the floor. I think Splitter has the worst lift I have ever seen in a person that big.
To quote everyone's favorite Greek: "Lies!"

[ChumpDumper]

NBA contracts deduct 42% for federal taxes (new tax rate law in US).NBA contracts deduct 8% for local taxes. ALL players pay this even ones in Texas and Florida. Look in NBA CBA rules each player is taxed locally per game by what city.I don't see it.

Here is the link to the CBA:

http://www.nbpa.org/cba/2005

Tell me in which article I can find the rules for each city.


So Spurs players pay this local tax also even though fans here lie and say they do not. It is a CBA rule that they have to pay it.If there is no local income tax in Texas or Florida, why would anyone pay a tax that does not exist?

[The Franchise]

Has a link been provided yet?

[ChumpDumper]

Has a link been provided yet?The only link was the one I gave where the list for taxes in cities isn't.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I don't see it.

Here is the link to the CBA:

http://www.nbpa.org/cba/2005

Tell me in which article I can find the rules for each city.

If there is no local income tax in Texas or Florida, why would anyone pay a tax that does not exist?

Because Mr. "Expert" every NBA player pays local taxes. Even the ones in Florida and Texas. Each NBA player is taxed at per city rate of each NBA team and average is 7.9%.

If you were really an NBA fan you would actually know this. Your knowledge of NBA CBA is embarrassing for someone who pretends to be such a know it all.

[Mel_13]

Because Mr. "Expert" every NBA player pays local taxes. Even the ones in Florida and Texas. Each NBA player is taxed at per city rate of each NBA team and average is 7.9%.

If you were really an NBA fan you would actually know this. Your knowledge of NBA CBA is embarrassing for someone who pretends to be such a know it all.

You're hilarious. He gave you the link to the entire CBA. Instead of spouting off your insults, why not just quote the relevant portion of the document and prove your point?

[jag]

I am saying he is going to suck ass and get dominated by the ginger fury when he matches up against them.

Splitter is a pussy and is going to suck here.

Did Splitter bang your wife or something?

[TheProfessor]

Because Mr. "Expert" every NBA player pays local taxes. Even the ones in Florida and Texas. Each NBA player is taxed at per city rate of each NBA team and average is 7.9%.

If you were really an NBA fan you would actually know this. Your knowledge of NBA CBA is embarrassing for someone who pretends to be such a know it all.
So you don't know which article it is in, and cannot substantiate your previous claim. Got it.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

You're hilarious. He gave you the link to the entire CBA. Instead of spouting off your insults, why not just quote the relevant portion of the document and prove your point?

Because I am right and he is an idiot. An idiot that thinks he is so smart. He is wrong every single time and acts like he is such a damn genius. Nothing is worse than morons who act so superior.

It is hilarious that on NBA message board fans do not even know the CBA rules.

[ChumpDumper]

Because Mr. "Expert" every NBA player pays local taxes. Even the ones in Florida and Texas.But there are no local state income taxes in Texas and Florida -- so when players play in Texas and Florida, no income tax goes to those state governments.


Each NBA player is taxed at per city rate of each NBA team and average is 7.9%.You keep saying that. Show me where it is in the CBA. I gave you the link.


If you were really an NBA fan you would actually know this. Your knowledge of NBA CBA is embarrassing for someone who pretends to be such a know it all.So educate us all. Show us where that is in the CBA. I haven't found it.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

So you don't know which article it is in, and cannot substantiate your previous claim. Got it.

Nope. I am just sick of these games here. if you are too lazy to use Google then that is your problem. Anytime I give a link in history in this forum the link is called "fake" "made up" "lies" by these idiots like chumpdumper.

He is an arrogant and stupid ahole.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

But there are no local state income taxes in Texas and Florida.

You keep saying that. Show me where it is in the CBA. I gave you the link.

So educate us all. Show us where that is in the CBA. I haven't found it.


You are wrong. You are always wrong. Yet you always claim you are right. I have no interested in playing your games anymore.

[ChumpDumper]

Nope. I am just sick of these games here. if you are too lazy to sue Google then that is your problem. Anytime I give a link in history in this forum the link is called "fake" "made up" "lies" by these idiots like chumpdumper.

He is an arrogant and stupid ahole.I gave you the link to the CBA. Just tell me which article that is in.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I gave you the link to the CBA. Just tell me which article that is in.


Why? You have been so mean and rude to me here forever and for no reason.

[ChumpDumper]

You are wrong. You are always wrong. Yet you always claim you are right. I have no interested in playing your games anymore.You may be right. Show us all where the income tax collection clause is in the CBA.

[TheProfessor]

Nope. I am just sick of these games here. if you are too lazy to sue Google then that is your problem. Anytime I give a link in history in this forum the link is called "fake" "made up" "lies" by these idiots like chumpdumper.

He is an arrogant and stupid ahole.
Actually, I'm not to lazy to use google. Shockingly, this thread was the only relevant page that came up discussing your claims. So, at the moment, you have provided no substantiation, I cannot find it through conventional searches, and it does not exist in the relevant portions of the CBA, which I just perused with a pdf search.

[ChumpDumper]

Why? You have been so mean and rude to me here forever and for no reason.I usually treat people badly when they spout off things they claim to be facts, but never back anything up with proof.

[ChumpDumper]

Here's the link again.

http://www.nbpa.org/cba/2005

Just tell me which article to look at.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Actually, I'm not to lazy to use google. Shockingly, this thread was the only relevant page that came up discussing your claims. So, at the moment, you have provided no substantiation, I cannot find it through conventional searches, and it does not exist in the relevant portions of the CBA, which I just perused with a pdf search.


NBA fans should of already known these things.

[ChumpDumper]

NBA fans should of already known these things.Not really. Casual fans don't need to know these things to enjoy the NBA.

Tell us where to find the state income tax collection clause:

http://www.nbpa.org/cba/2005

[rayray2k8]

lawl lies!
lawl links
lawl lol

[ChumpDumper]

Since I couldn't find anything in the CBA about state income tax collection, I did some googling and came across this from someone claiming to be a CPA.


There is no double tax. The players (employees) are taxed for the time doing their job in a particular state. That's pretty much the rule for everyone that receives earned income from an employer. Say you are an employee for IBM and you're assigned to work in two different states. You would be taxed on your earnings for each state. If those assignments are temporary, generally the non-resident state will not require you to pay tax and all income ends up being taxed in your home state.

Players will receive a credit on the home state tax return if and when they pay taxes to another state. So generally, the tax paid to other states offsets the tax players would have to pay their home state. I say generally, because some states like Texas & Florida don't have an income tax.

Mark Cuban's employees don't pay any state income taxes when they play at home if they claim Texas as their resident state. When they're on the road they will pay taxes to the state they're working in. So they have to file a few more tax returns: big deal. After all they get paid extraordinary amounts to play a game and for that trouble they end up paying the same taxes we all have to pay.

http://www.reallifedebt.com/blog/of-nba-players-and-their-tax-burden-4676.html

So players for Florida and Texas teams residing in those states pay no taxes on home games.

Indeed, no NBA players pay taxes on games played in Texas or Florida -- because those states don't have income taxes.

[Mel_13]

Since I couldn't find anything in the CBA about state income tax collection, I did some googling and came across this from someone claiming to be a CPA.



http://www.reallifedebt.com/blog/of-nba-players-and-their-tax-burden-4676.html

So players for Florida and Texas teams residing in those states pay no taxes on home games.

Indeed, no NBA players pay taxes on games played in Texas or Florida -- because those states don't have income taxes.

Maybe that CPA could also explain how a professional athlete slated to make tens of millions of dollars can secure a loan for $700K.

[The Franchise]

Since I couldn't find anything in the CBA about state income tax collection, I did some googling and came across this from someone claiming to be a CPA.



http://www.reallifedebt.com/blog/of-nba-players-and-their-tax-burden-4676.html

So players for Florida and Texas teams residing in those states pay no taxes on home games.

Indeed, no NBA players pay taxes on games played in Texas or Florida -- because those states don't have income taxes.

You dirty motherfucker! Always trying to muddy the truth with your facts! :ihit

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Since I couldn't find anything in the CBA about state income tax collection, I did some googling and came across this from someone claiming to be a CPA.



http://www.reallifedebt.com/blog/of-nba-players-and-their-tax-burden-4676.html

So players for Florida and Texas teams residing in those states pay no taxes on home games.

Indeed, no NBA players pay taxes on games played in Texas or Florida -- because those states don't have income taxes.

You cannot read. Only people that live in Texas and Florida. Learn to read English. Also it says clearly each player is taxed by city they play in.


Everything I said is true and correct and you are wrong. Once again you use a link that once again proves you are wrong and you make up lies to claim it says you are right. There is something wrong with you man.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

You dirty motherfucker! Always trying to muddy the truth with your facts! :ihit

Can you not read? The link verifies everything I said.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Maybe that CPA could also explain how a professional athlete slated to make tens of millions of dollars can secure a loan for $700K.

His link verifies everything I said. What is wrong with you retards?

[Mel_13]

Can you not read? The link verifies everything I said.


:lmao

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

:lmao

Are you retarded? The link verifies just what I said. Every NBA player pays local taxes on the city they play in.

Just like I said you moron. Just like it says in the CBA it is averaged to 7.9 percent.

EVERY NBA player pays this including ones in Texas just like the link he posted SAYS it.

You are obviously a retard.

[Mel_13]

Are you retarded? The link verifies just what I said. Every NBA player pays local taxes on the city they play in.

Just like I said you moron. Just like it says in the CBA it is averaged to 7.9 percent.

EVERY NBA player pays this including ones in Texas just like the link he posted SAYS it.

You are obviously a retard.

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Are you retarded? The link verifies just what I said. Every NBA player pays local taxes on the city they play in.Except where they don't.


Just like I said you moron. Just like it says in the CBA it is averaged to 7.9 percent. Where does the CBA say that?

Here is the link again:

http://www.nbpa.org/cba/2005

Tell us where to find it.


EVERY NBA player pays this including ones in Texas just like the link he posted SAYS it.Except they don't when they play in Texas and Florida.


You are obviously a retard.:lol

[kamikazi_player]

Please don't argue with this idiot dumper, KBP just calls people idiots and retards when he can't provide a link or back up what he says.

[TimmehC]

Nothing is worse than morons who act so superior.


I think the paradox here just ripped a hole in the fabric of space-time.

[manufan10]

He is wrong every single time and acts like he is such a damn genius. Nothing is worse than morons who act so superior.


http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m98/Vern_06/Pot_Meet_Kettle.jpg

[4>0rings]

Greeks sure know how to waste money.
:lmao:lmao:lmao

and that's the damn truth.

[Indazone]

You dirty motherfucker! Always trying to muddy the truth with your facts! :ihit

FACTS?!! FACTS!!!!

“Facts are the enemy of truth. ”

Don Quixote

[Man In Black]

Technically there are 7 states in the United States that DO NOT HAVE INCOME TAX:
Alaska, Florida, Nevada, South Dakota, Texas, Washington & Wyoming.

So that removes games played in Miami, Orlando, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio. All those games played there, if they live in that state, they don't pay a LOCAL Tax.

Additionally, in New Hampshire and Tennessee, they pay a flat tax on any income over a certain level. For Memphis, they would pay a 6% tax on dividends and interest income over $1,250.

So if KBP can be like Pythagoras and show us the math, then instead of disdain, he might actually garner respect. But I doubt that he'll do it, because he's to busy crying...HELLAS BE DAMNED.

[Bender]

Technically there are 6 states in the United States that DO NOT HAVE INCOME TAX:
Alaska, Florida, Nevada, South Dakota, Texas, Washington & Wyoming.hmmm... I count 7 in your statement.

I thought there was 9 no-tax states. At least last I heard.

[boutons_deux]

"the president of Splitter's Spanish League club said he expects the 6-foot-11 Brazilian to make the jump to America next season."

http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/courtside/2010/06/spanish-boss-sp.html

[Man In Black]

hmmm... I count 7 in your statement.

I thought there was 9 no-tax states. At least last I heard.
Sorry a typo, my apologies.

[manufan10]

So instead of wasting my time by reading all 3 pages of the thread can I make a stab at what is going on?
Fake Greek poster tries to scare Spurs fans by saying that Splitter will be really over paid and offered a lot more money than the Spurs can offer. This statement is made out of his ass with no links or proof of Greek ability to actually pay.

Then everyone tries to be civil about this and asks for a logical link. Fake Greek poster gets defensive and says that it is a real story. Posters ask for a link again. Idiot fake Greek poster calls the posters that are being logical idiots and makes up a bunch of shit.

Then, the made-up shit is proven wrong and the fake Greek continues to call the logical posters idiots.

So did I miss anything?

Spot on. :toast

Although, it's not a difficult thing to do in a KBP started thread. :lol

[PerforatedNeckline]

It's been too long since we've had a really good KBP vs. ChumpDumper thread.
May it continue for 20 more pages!
They're my favorite events on Spurstalk, bar none.

[ChumpDumper]

Hey, KBP, did you find that CBA article with the income tax payment schedule on it yet?

[ChumpDumper]

Do you need the link again?

Here it is:

http://www.nbpa.org/cba/2005

Tell us all which article contains the state income tax collection clause.

[Mel_13]

Olympiacos has offer to Vassilis Spanoulis a contract that in NBA money is 3 years and $43.5 million ($14.5 million per season).

This will be highest contract in Europe. So if Spanoulis signs this contract then market for Splitter in Europe will be set. This can be maybe what he can ask for in Europe if some team will pay it like maybe Real Madrid.

Remember also in Europe not counted in the salary is a free house, free utilities, and a free car.

It seems if Splitter takes MLE to come to Spurs he is doing a huge favor for them when consider how much Spanoulis is offered in Europe.


This is very very sad news. :depressed:depressed:depressed

Greek government wants to tax all basketball clubs at 80%. All the clubs will have to shut down if this happens.

http://sport24.gr/html/ent/409/ent.370409.asp

:depressed:depressed:depressed:depressed

:lmao

[lotr1trekkie]

San Antonio & Texas have no income taxes. FEd taxes are uniform. Pay more in Canada but you have health care. Splitter will come if he's ready to move up to the next challange. If it's about money he should stay in Europe.

[WildcardManu]

We all have to pay the same pimp... Uncle Sam.