Ivory Coast vs. Brazil

[resistanze]

Could shape up to be a good one.

[ffadicted]

Gonna be the best match of the WC so far. Must win for both teams, no one will be fucking around with 10 men defense

[DAF86]

I don't know who to pull here, as an Argie I always want Brazil to lose but I don't want them to qualify second and end up in our side of the draw.

[resistanze]

I don't know who to pull here, as an Argie I always want Brazil to lose but I don't want them to qualify second and end up in our side of the draw.

I see it as if Brazil is good enough to beat Argentina earlier in the knockout stage, then they're likely to make it all the way to the finals anyways. So IMO you should be saying "Fuck Brazil" always :lol

[TDMVPDPOY]

this be a draw game

[DAF86]

I see it as if Brazil is good enough to beat Argentina earlier in the knockout stage, then they're likely to make it all the way to the finals anyways. So IMO you should be saying "Fuck Brazil" always :lol

It's all about matchups, I don't think that Brazil has more talent than Argentina but lately they have our number, maybe if they face some other teams before they can get eliminated by one of them, then there's also the fact that I would rather lose later than sooner. Either way, once the game starts I know I won't be able to manage my desire of seeing a Brazil loss :lol

[MaNuMaNiAc]

As Argies, our collective nuts always seem to shrivel up when we play Brazil, so if someone else can take care of that problem for us, then all the power to them. Ofcourse I always root for Brazil to lose.

[ffadicted]

It's all about matchups, I don't think that Brazil has more talent than Argentina but lately they have our number, maybe if they face some other teams before they can get eliminated by one of them, then there's also the fact that I would rather lose later than sooner. Either way, once the game starts I know I won't be able to manage my desire of seeing a Brazil loss :lol

:dizzy

see you brotha's at halftime

[DAF86]

:dizzy

see you brotha's at halftime

lol Kaka
lol Robinho
lol Luis Fabiano
lol Elano

[usdane]

This should be an entertaining match. At least I hope so.

Show something Kaka and Robinho.

[DAF86]

Robinho what a ballhog, Luis Fabiano was all alone.

[DAF86]

Is that the stadium where the final will be played? the pitch already looks damaged.

[resistanze]

Kaka getting worked early.

[lefty]

Ball dont lie

[resistanze]

Robinho loves to kick I'll give him that.

[resistanze]

What a strike.

[DAF86]

A copy of Donovan's goal.

[Bukefal]

nice one

[DAF86]

lol CDI, down 1 and with all 11 players in their own half. What are you waiting for?

[usdane]

Bit boring 1st half.

[resistanze]

They're playing slow and content being down 1-0.

[ffadicted]

Excellent first half, dominating the game, should've been up 2 - 0 if not for Robinho being a damn ballhog lol

[boston.balla]

They're playing slow and content being down 1-0.

brazil huntin' them boys down .. one counter with either robinho or maicon or bastos (did you see 2-3 times free cause the LB of CIV came to help in midfield) will spell serious trouble.

Let's see what civ gonna do about it at halftime regarding tactics. As I know sven goran he ain't gonna risk alot cause he knows a thin defense against a team like brasil is not a great idea.


Btw: hope me meet argies somewhere in the tournament, i'd love a knockout game between us.

[boston.balla]

Excellent first half, dominating the game, should've been up 2 - 0 if not for Robinho being a damn ballhog lol

we're kinda stepping on our feet a bit .. meh .. 1-0 and with our wings we are in a very decent position.

[boston.balla]

It's all about matchups, I don't think that Brazil has more talent than Argentina but lately they have our number, maybe if they face some other teams before they can get eliminated by one of them, then there's also the fact that I would rather lose later than sooner. Either way, once the game starts I know I won't be able to manage my desire of seeing a Brazil loss :lol


As Argies, our collective nuts always seem to shrivel up when we play Brazil, so if someone else can take care of that problem for us, then all the power to them. Ofcourse I always root for Brazil to lose.

sons, I know the hate but i root for ya to win cause i hope we meet somewhere during the tournament .. imagine a bra-arg finals king's treat it'd be:king

[boston.balla]

and our goal was fucking class .. keeper didn't have time to blink.

[ffadicted]

balla, are you from brasil too?

[tlongII]

Right now it looks like Brazil, Argentina, and the Netherlands are the best teams in the tournament.

[tlongII]

That was a GREAT play!

[boston.balla]

deeezz nutssss

[MaNuMaNiAc]

nice hand ball there by Fabiano

[Spurologist]

hand of god

[resistanze]

Wow terrible defense, worse handball.

[tlongII]

Maybe a hand ball?

[scott]

Maybe 2 hand balls? Geez.

[sefant77]

The refs are so horrible this cup...

So many weak yellow and red cards and so many illegal goals...

[boston.balla]

balla, are you from brasil too?

pops is brasilian but i was born in us and grew up in europe most of the time, now i live all around the globe where job takes me (kinda awful because of the time differences).. i root for bra ofc but i can't speak pa's language for shit.. too complicated:lol

[boston.balla]

nice hand ball there by Fabiano


hand of god

= bukkake!

[boston.balla]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmaoLOOL at ref & fabiano :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[resistanze]

:lmao 2 Hand balls. Jesus Christ.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

= bukkake!

bukkake? :lol you're such a fucking clown. First of all, Argentina has nothing to do with this, second I said nothing about the goal other than it being a handball. Was it not?

[boston.balla]

bukkake? :lol you're such a fucking clown. First of all, Argentina has nothing to do with this, second I said nothing about the goal other than it being a handball. Was it not?


cmon man laughing ain't prohibited two hand balls is great and you put the hand of god stuff and it gets even greater. It was nothing against arg.

Hell, you can't blame the ref for loving brasil. :lmao

[boston.balla]

we bulllyiing deeez niggazz !!

[resistanze]

Yuck, back to my thesis.

[sefant77]

Fabiano fucked the Karma => Elano injuried

[Spurologist]

yesssssssssssssssssssssss

[sefant77]

Important goal for a probably points tie with Portugal

[ElNono]

Somebody give Luis Fabiano the Golden Globe

[Spurologist]

:lol

Fabiano

[lefty]

Fight !

[ElNono]

Lol

[boston.balla]

yeah man deez niggaz was askin for it with their tribal tackling!

[lefty]

:lmao

[Spurologist]

:lmao

Keita

[lefty]

Wow Kaka ?

Who would have thought :lmao

[ElNono]

:lmao

[lefty]

Keita is a pussy

[MaNuMaNiAc]

What a bunch of BULLSHIT!!! Red card for what??? this ref is fucking nuts

[Spurologist]

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[sefant77]

lol, ellbow was chest and not face, or???

And IF the ref call it, then has to be red and not yellow-red?!

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Keita needs to be reprimanded after the game. FIFA NEEDS to step in and do something about this bullshit acting

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Fucking disgraceful

[ElNono]

Great way to waste time... 8 minutes on that shit

[blkroadrunners]

:lmao Kaka

[lefty]

Keita needs to be reprimanded after the game. FIFA NEEDS to step in and do something about this bullshit acting
So they shoud suspend the whole Itlian NT in the process :lol

[tlongII]

That call is a joke! It's a good thing Brazil is already through to the KO round.

[ElNono]

lol 3 minutes, and 4 minutes for Italy... :lmao

[sefant77]

Late Karma for Rivaldo?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgfRCa71Kmw

[Spurologist]

I don't give a shit what the commentators say. Shame or not, players will always dive and go for the theatrics as long as it can give their team an advantage.

Still shameful though.

[ElNono]

lol jogo bonito

six brazilians inside the area...

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I'm starting to believe all the ref whining is warranted. This game is pretty much the worst reffed game so far. US game included. The only differnce is the bad calls didn't cost Brazil the game. That's it.

[ElNono]

I gotta rewatch this game.. I missed most of it

[boston.balla]

I'm starting to believe all the ref whining is warranted. This game is pretty much the worst reffed game so far. US game included. The only differnce is the bad calls didn't cost Brazil the game. That's it.

i agree .. ref lost control and made mistakes.

[Spurologist]

That call is a joke! It's a good thing Brazil is already through to the KO round.

what Kaka did is at least a yellow. In fact, he's lucky he didn't get a straight red there.

[boston.balla]

fuck them banana plantation workers we showed them how is done!

[ElNono]

So, portugal should have some advantage the next game, right??

[ElNono]

No kaka, no Elano...

[ffadicted]

Ok... first of all, there's no way that second yellow sticks lmao
Also, lol @ ivory coast, fucking going hard after they know they'll be eliminated. Fucking ridiculous, so shameful.


lol Kaka
lol Robinho
lol Luis Fabiano
lol Elano

lol two goal assists, regaining top form before being fucked over (1st was legit, second yellow was shameful)
lol wouldn't trade our ballhog for anybody on argentina other then messi
lol 2 goals, including a beautiful solo play.
lol 2 goals in 2 matches.

Fucking shameful game, but nothing we can do about it now, we'll take the three points and the rescinded red later on

[ElNono]

http://bucket.ak.lanacion.com.ar/anexos/fotos/24/1222624w600.JPG

[ElNono]

Glad Luis Fabiano gave Brazil a hand today... :tu

[sefant77]

The ref asked Fabiano...thats just really poor....

[ElNono]

Fucking shameful game, but nothing we can do about it now, we'll take the three points and the rescinded red later on

That's right. This is the World Cup. Take the 3 points whichever way you can.

South American teams ripping a new one out there. All good with me.

[boston.balla]

So, portugal should have some advantage the next game, right??

there's no need .. portugal will beat themselves by drawing with korea and then no matter what happenes we have the first place. just watch.

Also no kaka and no elano does not mean alot if you've watched the qualifiers .. we have alot of talent

[Muser]

The red should stand IMO, it serves Brazil right for acting like they've been shot whenever a player touches them.

[boston.balla]

Glad Luis Fabiano gave Brazil a hand today... :tu


ivory coast had their HANDS FULL with fabiano :lol

[ElNono]

Also no kaka and no elano does not mean alot if you've watched the qualifiers .. we have alot of talent

I watched the qualifiers... :rolleyes
That's exactly what I'm talking about...

[ElNono]

The red should stand IMO, it serves Brazil right for acting like they've been shot whenever a player touches them.

If it will reduce Kaka shirt sales by 1.2%, then Sepp will rescind it...

[boston.balla]

The red should stand IMO, it serves Brazil right for acting like they've been shot whenever a player touches them.


son have you watched some of them tackles in this game ... you smokin or what? ... those were really mean tackles and the ref shouldn't have let the game that way. Some of them were criminal I might add.

[sefant77]

Postgame Fabiano....seriously dude, laughing in the cam telling it was hand but not intentionally

[ffadicted]

Also no kaka and no elano does not mean alot if you've watched the qualifiers .. we have alot of talent

Man, we sucked without kaka in qualifiers, dunga almost got fired for having like, three straight 0 - 0 ties in brasil lol

[resistanze]

The red should stand IMO, it serves Brazil right for acting like they've been shot whenever a player touches them.

Brazil's flopping in underrated. Lucio is probably the biggest flopper in the world, with his trademark 6 barrel roll.

[ElNono]

Man, we sucked without kaka in qualifiers, dunga almost got fired for having like, three straight 0 - 0 ties in brasil lol

Exactly. He must only remember the last 5 games or so...
And Portugal might be fighting for their lives...
Should be a fun game... who acts more? Luis Fabiano or Ronaldo? :lol

[boston.balla]

I watched the qualifiers... :rolleyes
That's exactly what I'm talking about...

my bad, misunderstood.

[resistanze]

Why was Kaka still out there anyways? Should've subbed him off after the third goal.

[Cry Havoc]

If it will reduce Kaka shirt sales by 1.2%, then Sepp will rescind it...

Does it make any sense that cards can be rescinded, but goals cannot be changed?

Seems a little bizarre to me. Obviously that's not a deserved red, even though Brazil players were flopping like crazy, but it just highlights how poorly these games are being officiated.

[ElNono]

So, who won the Oscar? :lol

[boston.balla]

Man, we sucked without kaka in qualifiers, dunga almost got fired for having like, three straight 0 - 0 ties in brasil lol

in the context of portugal having to attack us those absences should mean alot less then in the context of teams coming to brasil and packing tent in their penalty area .. that's what i'm sayin.

[ElNono]

Does it make any sense that cards can be rescinded, but goals cannot be changed?

Seems a little bizarre to me. Obviously that's not a deserved red, even though Brazil players were flopping like crazy, but it just highlights how poorly these games are being officiated.

What gets rescinded is the suspension really... but it's effectively the same thing...

[ffadicted]

Exactly. He must only remember the last 5 games or so...
And Portugal might be fighting for their lives...
Should be a fun game... who acts more? Luis Fabiano or Ronaldo? :lol

Robinho

[Muser]

son have you watched some of them tackles in this game ... you smokin or what? ... those were really mean tackles and the ref shouldn't have let the game that way. Some of them were criminal I might add.

I agree, a lot of the tackles were bad. I'm talking about a 6 ft 2 man rolling around on the floor, then as soon as the free kick is awarded getting back up like nothing had happened.

It's not just Brazil, every team does it and it pisses me off.

[ffadicted]

I agree, a lot of the tackles were bad. I'm talking about a 6 ft 2 man rolling around on the floor, then as soon as the free kick is awarded getting back up like nothing had happened.

It's not just Brazil, every team does it and it pisses me off.

Muser I'm there with you man, pisses me even more when it's our team doing it. But refs consistently fail to penalize with yellows for that in every league in the world, soooo

[Muser]

Brazil's flopping in underrated. Lucio is probably the biggest flopper in the world, with his trademark 6 barrel roll.

I know right? He's a beast of a player, one of the best defenders in the world and he plays like a bitch.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Does it make any sense that cards can be rescinded, but goals cannot be changed?

Seems a little bizarre to me. Obviously that's not a deserved red, even though Brazil players were flopping like crazy, but it just highlights how poorly these games are being officiated.

What gets rescinded is the suspension for the next game. It doesn't affect the outcome of the game where the red card happened. There's a huge difference

[Whisky Dog]

This game basically went - Samba kicks ass, Ivory gets chippy with horrible spike first fouls like the one on Elano that should have been a card, Samba starts flailing around like they get shot (Fabiano!) every time they get touched, and Ivory does the same, Kaka goes full retard and gets a warranted yellow then bad yellow and gets sent off, Samba wins.

No way this was worsely officiated than US v Slovenia, the officials lost control of this one but didn't intentionally screw a team out of a victory. I'll take losing control of the match every time over screwing a team out of a win.

If FIFA really wants to curb the acting and pussy theatrics they'll start handing down video replay after the fact suspensions for that stuff, possible multiple games if it's bad enough. They won't do it, but it won't stop unless you just go short of issuing the soccer death penalty for it.

Rossi's penalty kick awarding acting job is another example that screwed NZ.

[Cry Havoc]

I agree, a lot of the tackles were bad. I'm talking about a 6 ft 2 man rolling around on the floor, then as soon as the free kick is awarded getting back up like nothing had happened.

It's not just Brazil, every team does it and it pisses me off.

Which is why I :rofl anytime a person from a futbol country attempts to talk about soccer players as being "tougher than American football" or the like.

Can you imagine a linebacker rolling around on the ground during a play?

[Muser]

Muser I'm there with you man, pisses me even more when it's our team doing it. But refs consistently fail to penalize with yellows for that in every league in the world, soooo


IMO if a player is caught playacting it's a straight yellow, that way it would stop overnight.

[ffadicted]

lol Brasil media are dubbing Fabiano's goal as the "Fabulous Hand" already.

I'm glad we won by more then one, or we'd never hear the end of this

[boston.balla]

I agree, a lot of the tackles were bad. I'm talking about a 6 ft 2 man rolling around on the floor, then as soon as the free kick is awarded getting back up like nothing had happened.

It's not just Brazil, every team does it and it pisses me off.


this is football nowadays .. better to act than to get injured .. see elano .. hopefully it's just a powerful hit and no serious damage, the padded protection should really help his case.


hey look at the nba, the kobe likes don't even need to act at fifa at least you need training.

tomorrow the oscar favorites come to play.. al hail!
QRO626ImQek

[Muser]

But all in all Brazil dominated the game, them and Argentina are the teams to beat so far.

[boston.balla]

i meant they played today, sorry.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

This game basically went - Samba kicks ass, Ivory gets chippy with horrible spike first fouls like the one on Elano that should have been a card, Samba starts flailing around like they get shot (Fabiano!) every time they get touched, and Ivory does the same, Kaka goes full retard and gets a warranted yellow then bad yellow and gets sent off, Samba wins.

No way this was worsely officiated than US v Slovenia, the officials lost control of this one but didn't intentionally screw a team out of a victory. I'll take losing control of the match every time over screwing a team out of a win.

If FIFA really wants to curb the acting and pussy theatrics they'll start handing down video replay after the fact suspensions for that stuff, possible multiple games if it's bad enough. They won't do it, but it won't stop unless you just go short of issuing the soccer death penalty for it.

Rossi's penalty kick awarding acting job is another example that screwed NZ.

nobody intentional screwed the US of anything. Man, you fucking conpiracy theorists are annoying as all hell.

[ElNono]

Considering yellow cards do not get wiped until after the quarterfinals this time around, Kaka forcing the red might have been the sensible thing to do...

[ElNono]

Cristiano Ronaldo diz não ter medo do Brasil (http://oglobo.globo.com/esportes/copa2010/mat/2010/06/20/cristiano-ronaldo-provoca-messi-diz-nao-ter-medo-do-brasil-na-copa-do-mundo-916928557.asp)

:lol

[boston.balla]

Which is why I :rofl anytime a person from a futbol country attempts to talk about soccer players as being "tougher than American football" or the like.

Can you imagine a linebacker rolling around on the ground during a play?

who the fuck says shit like that in the first place? :lmao

futbol/soccer is nowhere near as physical as american football, it does require more endurance due to running alot, but... that's it ... rugby on the other hand .. having seen and played both games i can say the all blacks can beat the shit out of any american football team. I mean THE SHIT OUT.

[ElNono]

http://i50.tinypic.com/vnpkkp.png

:lol

[Whisky Dog]

nobody intentional screwed the US of anything. Man, you fucking conpiracy theorists are annoying as all hell.

That's your opinion, mine is different. A ref with any experience at all knows you never call a borderline foul in that situation late in a tied game. This ref actually invented a foul that never occurred. It wasn't borderline, it was a pure fabrication, also in the face of at least 3 obvious slovenian fouls in the box. You'll never convince me that politics didn't creep in there. Never. It's over now and the US got a break with England sucking hard so a win still gets them through, but they would have had a strong hold on 1st in group if not for politics. Hopefully even as 2nd in group if they win they get Ghana and not Germany.

[ElNono]

who the fuck says shit like that in the first place? :lmao

futbol/soccer is nowhere near as physical as american football, it does require more endurance due to running alot, but... that's it ... rugby on the other hand .. having seen and played both games i can say the all blacks can beat the shit out of any american football team. I mean THE SHIT OUT.

+1

Comparing American Football with Soccer is retarded... now, Rugby you could make a case...

[ElNono]

That's your opinion, mine is different. A ref with any experience at all knows you never call a borderline foul in that situation late in a tied game. This ref actually invented a foul that never occurred. It wasn't borderline, it was a pure fabrication, also in the face of at least 3 obvious slovenian fouls in the box. You'll never convince me that politics didn't creep in there. Never. It's over now and the US got a break with England sucking hard so a win still gets them through, but they would have had a strong hold on 1st in group if not for politics. Hopefully even as 2nd in group if they win they get Ghana and not Germany.

Politics?

:lmao

[MaNuMaNiAc]

That's your opinion, mine is different. A ref with any experience at all knows you never call a borderline foul in that situation late in a tied game. This ref actually invented a foul that never occurred. It wasn't borderline, it was a pure fabrication, also in the face of at least 3 obvious slovenian fouls in the box. You'll never convince me that politics didn't creep in there. Never. It's over now and the US got a break with England sucking hard so a win still gets them through, but they would have had a strong hold on 1st in group if not for politics. Hopefully even as 2nd in group if they win they get Ghana and not Germany.

:rolleyes yeah, its not your fault, the world is out to get you. GTFO

[ElNono]

IMO if a player is caught playacting it's a straight yellow, that way it would stop overnight.

It's supposed to be like that. Refs were really cracking down on that last world cup. I dunno why they went backwards now.

[Muser]

who the fuck says shit like that in the first place? :lmao

futbol/soccer is nowhere near as physical as american football, it does require more endurance due to running alot, but... that's it ... rugby on the other hand .. having seen and played both games i can say the all blacks can beat the shit out of any american football team. I mean THE SHIT OUT.


I agree, a prime Lomu would shit on any american football player. Past or present.

[ffadicted]

Man, Whisky Dog is drinkin' the coolaid.

Also, south american countries laying a smack down on this world cup, so legendary despite my natural dislike for some of them lol

[ElNono]

Also, south american countries laying a smack down on this world cup, so legendary despite my natural dislike for some of them lol

Funny how Euro teams shrivel in fetal position when they're not playing in Europe. Let's hope we keep it up!

But, but... the Eurocup is harder than the World Cup! :lmao

[MaNuMaNiAc]

This world cup has been pretty damn bizarre. Non of the teams that made some noise in the qualifiers is playing up to par, and the teams that didn't are having the WC of their dreams. I just don't get it.

[ffadicted]

http://i45.tinypic.com/j7ukuv.png

lololol fffffuuuuuu would've been such an amazing goal if not tainted by this. Oh well

[ElNono]

This world cup has been pretty damn bizarre. Non of the teams that made some noise in the qualifiers is playing up to par, and the teams that didn't are having the WC of their dreams. I just don't get it.

I do. Think about it. Most South American team players play in Europe. Every qualifier game they're flying a lot and only get to stay 2 days with the team.
Plus the competition between the teams is monumental.

Now you give them two weeks to work, and you get solid teams.

[Muser]

Funny how Euro teams shrivel in fetal position when they're not playing in Europe. Let's hope we keep it up!

But, but... the Eurocup is harder than the World Cup! :lmao

England shitting themselves isn't exactly anything new, i'm surprised with Spain and Italy though.

[ElNono]

http://i45.tinypic.com/j7ukuv.png

lololol fffffuuuuuu would've been such an amazing goal if not tainted by this. Oh well

It was a clear and legitimate win from what I'm reading... so, no big deal really.

[ElNono]

England shitting themselves isn't exactly anything new, i'm surprised with Spain and Italy though.

I'm more surprised with England than Spain, honestly.

Obviously, France takes the cake. But even Germany, who is a sure bet normally, really faltered in their last game.

[Whisky Dog]

:rolleyes yeah, its not your fault, the world is out to get you. GTFO

How is it the US team's fault they were called for a phantom foul? You make no sense. Like I said, you can have your own opinion, but something that obviously fabricated screams a bit of bias. The US is nit presently liked much in many parts of the world, including many African nations, so is it that hard to believe a bit of bias against the US politics by an African ref didn't creep in? It certainly seems so when a goal is scored and the ref blows the whistle for an infraction yet nobody knows what the hell he called. He still hasn't explained what he saw, and he was sent home because of the call. That tells me there was bias, but you can believe what you want and the world won't be any different because of it.

[Whisky Dog]

England shitting themselves isn't exactly anything new, i'm surprised with Spain and Italy though.

That first game was a disaster, but we still have two more yet to redeem tomorrow then later in the week. Italy, England, and France otoh have already fucked up 2 games.

[Muser]

I'm more surprised with England than Spain, honestly.

Obviously, France takes the cake. But even Germany, who is a sure bet normally, really faltered in their last game.

I don't get what Englands problem is..They destroyed everyone in qualifying, beating Croatia 4-1 and 5-1. If they can destroy Croatia they should be able to beat Algeria..Maybe it's true and England just can't perform on the big stage :depressed

[MaNuMaNiAc]

How is it the US team's fault they were called for a phantom foul? You make no sense. Like I said, you can have your own opinion, but something that obviously fabricated screams a bit of bias. The US is nit presently liked much in many parts of the world, including many African nations, so is it that hard to believe a bit of bias against the US politics by an African ref didn't creep in? It certainly seems so when a goal is scored and the ref blows the whistle for an infraction yet nobody knows what the hell he called. He still hasn't explained what he saw, and he was sent home because of the call. That tells me there was bias, but you can believe what you want and the world won't be any different because of it.

It's the US fault that they were in a 0-2 whole to begin with against a team everyone thought they'd beat easily. One wrongly disallowed goal doesn't excuse the US of half assing it until the second half. Now, I agree you got shafted, but pulling the conspiracy theory card is so fucking lame. You got shafted by a wrong call. Shit happens. Trying to taint the whole tournament with conspiracy theories of politically motivated calls is complete and utter bullshit.

This was about incompetence, nothing more.

[ElNono]

I don't get what Englands problem is..They destroyed everyone in qualifying, beating Croatia 4-1 and 5-1. If they can destroy Croatia they should be able to beat Algeria..Maybe it's true and England just can't perform on the big stage :depressed

It's weird. They just have nobody that can create. Algeria took the ball, blocked the wings and England couldn't make two passes in a row through the middle.
I still think they'll move on to the next round.

[ElNono]

BTW, I was just reading that the referee was French? :lmao
They just can't get anything right in this World Cup...

[ffadicted]

lol surprisingly just though of this, but ivory coast are dumbasses... wouldnt' they want brasil at full strenght against portugal so that we can beat them and IC have a chance to go through?

why would they want to get our best player red carded lulz epic fail

[diego]

the final score doesnt show the story of this game. ivory coast definitely lost, but brazil did not win convincingly. they had very few opportunities and had to slow the game down and waste time, they practically forced the game to stop on several occasions but didnt stop themselves when ivory coast had players down, and i think the ivory coast players realized they were getting played so they started hitting; brazil responded by magnifying everything, and finally the ivory coast player gave them their medicine back. I also agree with ElNono this is probably better for brazil than potentially losing him in the 2nd round.

and :lol at dunga complaining about hard fouls.

[Muser]

It's weird. They just have nobody that can create. Algeria took the ball, blocked the wings and England couldn't make two passes in a row through the middle.
I still think they'll move on to the next round.

This is why Capello is pissing me off, why not play Joe Cole? He's the teams best creator and he's stuck on the pine. I agree that England should move onto the next round. Just hope we don't play Germany.

[lefty]

It's weird. They just have nobody that can create. Algeria took the ball, blocked the wings and England couldn't make two passes in a row through the middle.
I still think they'll move on to the next round.
God no

If they move on, we are out

[rascal]

the final score doesnt show the story of this game. ivory coast definitely lost, but brazil did not win convincingly. they had very few opportunities and had to slow the game down and waste time, they practically forced the game to stop on several occasions but didnt stop themselves when ivory coast had players down, and i think the ivory coast players realized they were getting played so they started hitting; brazil responded by magnifying everything, and finally the ivory coast player gave them their medicine back. I also agree with ElNono this is probably better for brazil than potentially losing him in the 2nd round.

and :lol at dunga complaining about hard fouls.

Brazil won this game easily. It never seemed like Ivory Coast even had a chance to win this game.

[rascal]

This is why Capello is pissing me off, why not play Joe Cole? He's the teams best creator and he's stuck on the pine. I agree that England should move onto the next round. Just hope we don't play Germany.

I see England vs Germany matchup.

[rascal]

It's the US fault that they were in a 0-2 whole to begin with against a team everyone thought they'd beat easily. One wrongly disallowed goal doesn't excuse the US of half assing it until the second half. Now, I agree you got shafted, but pulling the conspiracy theory card is so fucking lame. You got shafted by a wrong call. Shit happens. Trying to taint the whole tournament with conspiracy theories of politically motivated calls is complete and utter bullshit.

This was about incompetence, nothing more.

The US has played like crap for 3 of the 4 halves so far. They were lucky to get the point in the first game.

[Cry Havoc]

I agree, a prime Lomu would shit on any american football player. Past or present.

I disagree. An American football player went around the globe playing sports that are wildly popular in other countries, and did quite well at almost any sport he played in, including rugby.

Most of the rugby players that saw him play said he was immensely strong and extremely tough in the matches, after he got the feel of the game. He DID say that there was no way he could keep up with the amount of alcohol the rugby players drink, but that was independent of the game itself. :lol

The docu-series is called "Dhani Tackles the Globe", and it's very entertaining. Check it out if you're interested: http://www.travelchannel.com/TV_Shows/Dhani_Jones

[sefant77]

:rollin

http://images.gonzb.com/d/327129-1/fg1_1.gif


The most funny thing: Kaka would flop exactly like that too :lol

[boston.balla]

I disagree. An American football player went around the globe playing sports that are wildly popular in other countries, and did quite well at almost any sport he played in, including rugby.

Most of the rugby players that saw him play said he was immensely strong and extremely tough in the matches, after he got the feel of the game. He DID say that there was no way he could keep up with the amount of alcohol the rugby players drink, but that was independent of the game itself. :lol

The docu-series is called "Dhani Tackles the Globe", and it's very entertaining. Check it out if you're interested: http://www.travelchannel.com/TV_Shows/Dhani_Jones

rugby ain't really about raw strength but about having the endurance to run a get beaten the shit out on every ball. VERY different from american football. It's like comparing boxing with taekwondo.

Boxing is a dogfight were strength is most of the times not the most important but viciousness, endurance, resilience, resistance to hits, ability to keep you ground(rugby going back and front) while taekwondo is about a fairly limited number of attacks in which you put max power/speed (american football "plays")

It don't matter if the player is strong as a bull if he can't play in a dogfight. Sure, some american football players would do well, but as a sport rugby is more tough and puts more stress on the body through continuous hits and running (try taking one in the belly now and one after running 5 miles .. quite the difference)

[boston.balla]

This is why Capello is pissing me off, why not play Joe Cole? He's the teams best creator and he's stuck on the pine. I agree that England should move onto the next round. Just hope we don't play Germany.



england problem is quite an easy one: they can't hold midfield for their lives. They don't have a real ball winner (like melo for brasil, yaya toure for ivc, mascherano arg, etc) that costs them ALOT if you watch the games... they try to obtain position and lose it because of the aforementioned lack, try again, try the third time .. they figure it's not working so back to the good ol' long ball.

It's even more painful tactics-wise than the lack of a creater.

[boston.balla]

:rollin

http://images.gonzb.com/d/327129-1/fg1_1.gif


The most funny thing: Kaka would flop exactly like that too :lol

man i haven't seen kaka so aggresive in my life ... probably them tribal villigers learned something about jesus that made kaka really mad.. probably told him allah > jesus or something like that :lmao

[boston.balla]

the final score doesnt show the story of this game. ivory coast definitely lost, but brazil did not win convincingly. they had very few opportunities and had to slow the game down and waste time, they practically forced the game to stop on several occasions but didnt stop themselves when ivory coast had players down, and i think the ivory coast players realized they were getting played so they started hitting; brazil responded by magnifying everything, and finally the ivory coast player gave them their medicine back. I also agree with ElNono this is probably better for brazil than potentially losing him in the 2nd round.

and :lol at dunga complaining about hard fouls.


Son, what game did you watch?

[boston.balla]

The US has played like crap for 3 of the 4 halves so far. They were lucky to get the point in the first game.

completely agree... the hype with us is unbearable.

[Cry Havoc]

The US has played like crap for 3 of the 4 halves so far. They were lucky to get the point in the first game.

It's not like the US has a monopoly on teams that are underperforming at this year's WC. Spain, Italy, France, and England have all fared equally as bad, if not worse

If you would have polled knowledgeable futbol fans on the chances of ALL FOUR of those countries to be in danger of elimination at this point in the tournament, you would have been laughed at. Yet here we are.

Sure, the U.S. could have done a lot better. But they could have been worse, too. I think many of the smaller nations are proving that they can hold their own this year.

[DAF86]

Kaka's red was a good thing for Brazil, they're already qualified so they won't need him in the next game and he had already gotten a yellow in this game so the only thing that the second yellow did was cleaning up his first yellow so he can play card free in the second round (remember that in this WC the cards reset after the quarters).

Brazil benefits from the refs even when they get jobbed.

[tlongII]

who the fuck says shit like that in the first place? :lmao

futbol/soccer is nowhere near as physical as american football, it does require more endurance due to running alot, but... that's it ... rugby on the other hand .. having seen and played both games i can say the all blacks can beat the shit out of any american football team. I mean THE SHIT OUT.

Dude, do you know how BIG american football players are? They would crush those little rugby pussies. :lol

[DAF86]

Dude, do you know how BIG american football players are? They would crush those little rugby pussies. :lol

I watch both sports (I prefer the NFL), they're just as big the difference is that some NFL linemen are fat, while Rugby players in general are all muscle.

[lefty]

So


That 2nd goal was all hands ? :lmao

[tlongII]

I watch both sports (I prefer the NFL), they're just as big the difference is that some NFL linemen are fat, while Rugby players in general are all muscle.

Dude, NFL linebackers go 240-270 lbs and they are ALL muscle. You're not going to find rugby players like that.

[tlongII]

Of course they're probably filled with HGH too! :lmao

[DAF86]

Dude, NFL linebackers go 240-270 lbs and they are ALL muscle. You're not going to find rugby players like that.


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Q98F9nwRAf0/STazGWhSvII/AAAAAAAAAIc/nZ3kAJE5WsI/s400/Fat+Jackson.jpg

I'm sure that gut is all muscle.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Dude, NFL linebackers go 240-270 lbs and they are ALL muscle. You're not going to find rugby players like that.

Jonah Lomu was 6ft 4in and weighted around 260lbs when he played. Stop talking out of your ass

[ffadicted]

tbh I'd pick a rugby team over a football team in a brawl ANY day of the week... QBs are pussies, most players are fat, and there's a lot that are just fast and low body fat, but definitly not massive. IMO it's not even a contenst, rugby players are crazy

[monosylab1k]

Rugby players aren't fat but you're nuts if you think they'd beat the hell out of any NFL player. I'd love to see a rugby player try to take on Ray Lewis or DeMarcus Ware.

I understand american football and rugby aren't totally compatible, but I do think you need similar skill sets to perform well in each. If the biggest/fastest/strongest current NFL players had learned and played rugby all their lives, the US would have the #1 national rugby team in the world without a doubt.

[monosylab1k]

Rugby players aren't fat but you're nuts if you think they'd beat the hell out of any NFL player. I'd love to see a rugby player try to take on Ray Lewis or DeMarcus Ware. It'd be an even fight imo.

I understand american football and rugby aren't totally compatible, but I do think you need similar skill sets to perform well in each. If the biggest/fastest/strongest current NFL players had learned and played rugby all their lives, the US would have the #1 national rugby team in the world without a doubt.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Rugby players aren't fat but you're nuts if you think they'd beat the hell out of any NFL player. I'd love to see a rugby player try to take on Ray Lewis or DeMarcus Ware. It'd be an even fight imo.

I understand american football and rugby aren't totally compatible, but I do think you need similar skill sets to perform well in each. If the biggest/fastest/strongest current NFL players had learned and played rugby all their lives, the US would have the #1 national rugby team in the world without a doubt.

:lmao again with this bullshit

[ffadicted]

Why is it so hard for Americans to accept that even if they "tried", they're just not good compared to others at any particular thing?

[Spurologist]

Rugby players aren't fat but you're nuts if you think they'd beat the hell out of any NFL player. I'd love to see a rugby player try to take on Ray Lewis or DeMarcus Ware.

I understand american football and rugby aren't totally compatible, but I do think you need similar skill sets to perform well in each. If the biggest/fastest/strongest current NFL players had learned and played rugby all their lives, the US would have the #1 national rugby team in the world without a doubt.

I wouldn't go that far but more often than not, the top US athletes go into basketball, football and even baseball before rugby/soccer.

The exposure just isn't there.

[MannyIsGod]

I'm starting to believe all the ref whining is warranted. This game is pretty much the worst reffed game so far. US game included. The only differnce is the bad calls didn't cost Brazil the game. That's it.

:lol

Oh bitch NOW its warranted. Who cares if the US gets screwed but when those god damn bonitos get screwed.

:lol

JK man.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Let me guess, if the US tried, they would be the #1 team at anything...

[MaNuMaNiAc]

:lol

Oh bitch NOW its warranted. Who cares if the US gets screwed but when those god damn bonitos get screwed.

:lol

JK man.

:lol

Compounded evidence is hard to dispute.

[ffadicted]

:lol

Oh bitch NOW its warranted. Who cares if the US gets screwed but when those god damn bonitos get screwed.

:lol

JK man.

:lol

[tlongII]

Jonah Lomu was 6ft 4in and weighted around 260lbs when he played. Stop talking out of your ass

Stop talking out of your ass! There's many players that size on every single NFL team! :lol

[tlongII]

And I'm not saying the USA could beat anybody at rugby. I don't think we could. The issue is who would kick who's ass in a brawl. There's no question the NFL players would put those rugby guys to sleep.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Dude, NFL linebackers go 240-270 lbs and they are ALL muscle. You're not going to find rugby players like that.

again, stop talking out of your ass

[Whisky Dog]

Rofl manumaniac has such big red, white, and blue penis envy he'll argue against the US or anything American no matter how ridiculous it sounds.

[monosylab1k]

Let me guess, if the US tried, they would be the #1 team at anything...

The US regularly curbstomps at the Olympics, we've overall got the best athletes in the world. It's pretty obvious that anybody in the US who would be good at rugby is playing football or basketball or baseball or even hockey instead.

It's not discrediting what other countries have done, it's just the truth. Americans don't give a shit about rugby. If they gave a shit, and the elite athletes that go to the NFL instead played rugby, the United States would be one of the best nations at rugby, if not the very best.

[monosylab1k]

And I'm not saying the USA could beat anybody at rugby. I don't think we could. The issue is who would kick who's ass in a brawl. There's no question the NFL players would put those rugby guys to sleep.

rugby guys are tough as hell. I know NFL players are too, but some of the shit rugby players put themselves through with no helmets and very little padding is crazy.

[Whisky Dog]

It's the US fault that they were in a 0-2 whole to begin with against a team everyone thought they'd beat easily. One wrongly disallowed goal doesn't excuse the US of half assing it until the second half. Now, I agree you got shafted, but pulling the conspiracy theory card is so fucking lame. You got shafted by a wrong call. Shit happens. Trying to taint the whole tournament with conspiracy theories of politically motivated calls is complete and utter bullshit.

This was about incompetence, nothing more.

Whatever happened before the call doesn't matter, the fact is the game was on the line and this ref completely fabricated a call. He didn't see anything because there was nothing to see, it was a fabricated call. At least admit that.

After thinking about it, the only other scenario that is plausible for why this ref would completely fabricate the foul and make the call is because he felt like he made a bad call to award the free kick to Donovan in the first place, so he was going to fabricate the call and not let the US score as a "make up" call. So at worst he's a biased, corrupt official (just the official, not the whole tourney is tainted you drama queen), and at best he's as shitty as an NBA ref doing make up calls. Either way he's a shit ref.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Rofl manumaniac has such big red, white, and blue penis envy he'll argue against the US or anything American no matter how ridiculous it sounds.

yeah that's right, because anyone that doesn't agree that the US would beat anyone at everything if they bothered or that there's a conspiracy to fuck them, means they envy Americans :lol

You're such a fucking clown. I honestly don't understand how you people fit your head through the fucking door.

[Whisky Dog]

Size does not equal fighting ability. Royce Gracie was an average sized dude who would have NFL and Rugby dudes crying with broken limbs.

[ElNono]

FWIW, Elano has no serious injury, so he should be ok for the next round...

[Whisky Dog]

yeah that's right, because anyone that doesn't agree that the US would beat anyone at everything if they bothered or that there's a conspiracy to fuck them, means they envy Americans :lol

You're such a fucking clown. I honestly don't understand how you people fit your head through the fucking door.

Nobody said the US would automatically be the best at everything yet you keep arguing against that notion. That's what makes you out to be an envious chode.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Nobody said the US would automatically be the best at everything yet you keep arguing against that notion. That's what makes you out to be an envious chode.


Rugby players aren't fat but you're nuts if you think they'd beat the hell out of any NFL player. I'd love to see a rugby player try to take on Ray Lewis or DeMarcus Ware.

I understand american football and rugby aren't totally compatible, but I do think you need similar skill sets to perform well in each. If the biggest/fastest/strongest current NFL players had learned and played rugby all their lives, the US would have the #1 national rugby team in the world without a doubt.

Any more brilliant posts you reading comprehension impaired twat?

[monosylab1k]

Any more brilliant post you reading comprehension impaired twat?

rugby = everything?

[MaNuMaNiAc]

rugby = everything?

your's hasn't been the only post of that nature. Just an example of it. Plus, since you've ammended your post, I actually agree with you. The US would be pretty darn good at rugby if they were interested in it.

[Whisky Dog]

Any more brilliant posts you reading comprehension impaired twat?

I failed to see in that statement where he said the US would be good at EVERYTHING like you keep saying. All I saw was that he feels the US would dominate rugby. Rugby is hardly EVERYTHING.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I failed to see in that statement where he said the US would be good at EVERYTHING like you keep saying. All I saw was that he feels the US would dominate rugby. Rugby is hardly EVERYTHING.

Like I said his wasn't the only post of that nature. I wasn't only referring to his post.

Here http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=156424&page=23

READ

[Whisky Dog]

I read, and didn't see where anyone said the US would be good at EVERYTHING. In fact, CH said that the US putting their best athletes to grow up playing futbol wouldn't mean they'd be the best. So where do you get that we think we'd be the best at everything?

[Cry Havoc]

Let me guess, if the US tried, they would be the #1 team at anything...

Have you noticed who's standing atop the podium at the Olympics every single year, in both the Winter and Summer games? We ARE the best at more competitions than anyone else in the world. Do you really think it's a coincidence that soccer really hasn't taken hold in this country yet and our team struggles to field talented players? Do you really not think you could take some athletes out of the NBA/NFL and potentially improve our team if those players had worked their whole lives building up towards soccer instead of using their talent to secure a D-I scholarship to a major school in their sport of choice?

You're telling me someone with the footspeed and coordination of Barry Sanders wouldn't have flourished on the soccer pitch? How about Don Beebe? Jerry Rice? How many NBA point guards would have had real potential in soccer?

It's speculative how much better the US would be. But it's not speculative to say that we WOULD have a better team, if players didn't mind making $200,000 a year instead of $5,000,000. Seriously, do you know how many dads in the USA hope their sons grow up to be pro soccer players? Not many at all.


Why is it so hard for Americans to accept that even if they "tried", they're just not good compared to others at any particular thing?

I guess being in the top 15 in the world at a sport counts as being "not good" at something. But if you can't see the way the US is developing the MLS more every year, well, you'll have a rough awakening in 10-12 years when the US consistently fields a team favored to make the top 8 or the semifinals in almost every World Cup.


tbh I'd pick a rugby team over a football team in a brawl ANY day of the week... QBs are pussies, most players are fat, and there's a lot that are just fast and low body fat, but definitly not massive. IMO it's not even a contenst, rugby players are crazy

That's ridiculous. NFL players specialize because it helps them at their position. Rugby is a much more free-flowing game where players have to have generalized skill. A QB doesn't need to be tough to play (although it helps) because he's not supposed to get hit a lot. Why waste hours in the gym to bench 400 pounds if it won't help you on the field?

Larry Allen is definitely overweight, but how many rugby players do you know that can bench 225 pounds 41 times? I'd venture to say that one or two of them, at the very most.

http://www.knowyourdallascowboys.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/73allen1.jpg

Fat? Yeah, he's chunky. But would you want to be pushing against him in a scrum? I'm fairly certain he would move a pile effectively.

http://www.mensfitness.com/images/mf/209577/13026.jpg

Ray Lewis says, "hello." Yep. Lot of fat on that 6'1", 250 pound guy.

http://magazine.stack.com/Content/Site012/Articles/10_01_2009/DBLatRaisejpg_00000008402.jpg

Dwight Freeney. 6'1", 268. You see much fat on him? I don't.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_fTT9xlgZ9CU/SRj_FkLvsNI/AAAAAAAAPJ0/0jNnUAfrqPE/s400/TonyGonzalez6.jpg

Tony Gonzalez. 6'5", 243.

I'm not attempting to take anything away from rugby players. But to just pass NFL linebackers and D-linemen off like they are nothing or that they would just get pushed around by rugby players is just absurd.

[MannyIsGod]

This thread is like what would happen if Microsoft, Apple, Sony, and Google got together for a world cup of fanboys

[apalisoc_9]

Have you noticed who's standing atop the podium at the Olympics every single year, in both the Winter and Summer games? We ARE the best at more competitions than anyone else in the world. Do you really think it's a coincidence that soccer really hasn't taken hold in this country yet and our team struggles to field talented players? Do you really not think you could take some athletes out of the NBA/NFL and potentially improve our team if those players had worked their whole lives building up towards soccer instead of using their talent to secure a D-I scholarship to a major school in their sport of choice?

The same thing could be said to footballing nations. Do you really think, Brazil, Argentina, England, etc.. wouldn't be that dominant if basketball, Griderion was their main sport? A look into both sides of the discussion helps you know.

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol comparing rugby to nfl

dude cmon seriously outside of america theres only a small following of nfl viewers, while rugby is a world game, not as wide as soccer

rugby viewers is not as big as the usa population who watches nfl, but its far more entertaining

i take both forms of rugby over nfl, at leasts you see guys throwing punches and shit without helmets and pads...

[mountainballer]

I thought this thread is Ivory Coasr vs. Brazil, but it has turned into Rugby vs. NFL.
wow. some of you guys are really creative when it comes to totally nonsense competition.
what do we turn Chile vs. Swiss into?
Tennis vs. Badminton?

[Whisky Dog]

Fuck the swiss

[rascal]

Jonah Lomu was 6ft 4in and weighted around 260lbs when he played. Stop talking out of your ass

Rugby players would win at Rugby and American football players would win at football. I watched both sports and think the rugby players are tougher. They take hard hits with less padding.

[resistanze]

This thread is like what would happen if Microsoft, Apple, Sony, and Google got together for a world cup of fanboys

:lol

[Muser]

Jonah Lomu was 6ft 4in and weighted around 260lbs when he played. Stop talking out of your ass

N-xkryJCYDQ

:wow

[Cry Havoc]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwiMtGsFHwA

For whatever reason, the youtube video isn't embedding properly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwiMtGsFHwA

[marini martini]

For whatever reason, the youtube video isn't embedding properly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwiMtGsFHwA


HwiMtGsFHwA


you're welcome:toast

[MannyIsGod]

Dude, Reggie got decleeted!

[LoneStarState'sPride]

HwiMtGsFHwA


you're welcome:toast

Man, that was a SICK hit--I remember seeing that one live.

[boston.balla]

Man, that was a SICK hit--I remember seeing that one live.

too all the sons who nuthug nfl, one big hit means shit .. rugby means taking a shitload of hits in a match that in terms of effective play is much much longer. Take away the padding and the helmet (goodbye alot of crazy nfl hit using the helmet) and it's gladiator time.

Imagine 2 boxers: you train A 15 mins at max speed max strenght and then you put him to defend against max strength hits

you train B 5 x 15 mins at strong not max strength and speed and then you put him defend against strong not max strength but for 5 x times A had to defend.

Now tell me who is the better trained? Especially guys doing contact sport who know what I'm sayin here.

[LakerHater]

man i haven't seen kaka so aggresive in my life ... probably them tribal villigers learned something about jesus that made kaka really mad.. probably told him allah > jesus or something like that :lmao

http://209.160.24.97/ds_img_direct.php?i=kaka.gif&t=8&d=1fjdcjav7c&x=360&y=480&l1=169&l2=61