Chile vs. Switzerland

[Cry Havoc]

Didn't see a game thread for this, so I thought I'd start one.

Not the sexiest match up, but both teams have played well in the WC so far.

[Cry Havoc]

Wow, two AMAZING saves by the goalkeeper for the Swiss. The second of which has to be one of the saves of the WC thus far.

[DAF86]

Chile may be the most offensive team in the WC. That's Bielsa's style.

[Spurologist]

Chile may be the most offensive team in the WC. That's Bielsa's style.

:tu I like that....could bite them in the ass though.

Winner advances!

[Muser]

Has it been a good game? I'm busy with Wimbledon to watch.

[Cry Havoc]

Has it been a good game? I'm busy with Wimbledon to watch.

Pretty decent. Not a lot of attacking, but some good football.

The Swiss just got hit with a horrible yellow though, for an extremely minor jersey grab.

[DAF86]

:tu I like that....could bite them in the ass though.

Winner advances!

If Chile and Spain win today, and in the last game Spain beats Chile and Switzerland beats Honduras, Chile may still not qualify, that's why they need to win by a big difference.

[Cry Havoc]

Very sloppy tackle from Chile, deserved yellow.

[Spurologist]

If Chile and Spain win today, and in the last game Spain beats Chile and Switzerland beats Honduras, Chile may still not qualify, that's why they need to win by a big difference.

:tu

Honduras is that bad :lol

[Cry Havoc]

:tu I like that....could bite them in the ass though.

Winner advances!

Depends on how Spain plays from here on out. Both of these teams could advance, especially if they draw to each other.

[Cry Havoc]

Good counterattack by the Swiss that's cut out by a nice keeper decision.

[Cry Havoc]

Red card on the Swiss! Devastating. They need to hold on for the draw.

[Spurologist]

is that red?

[DAF86]

This ref is way too quick with his cards. He fucked the game up already.

[Cry Havoc]

That should have been a yellow, but it was horribly sloppy by Behrami anyway, so he really can't complain. He had his elbow high behind him and hit the other player with it. Even if it's light contact, he should be a lot more discrete in that position.

I think the red came in because it was such a stupid play by Behrami. He was totally careless, and even if the offense wasn't egregious, it was quite sloppy and unnecessary.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Ref's too fucking card happy. Swiss didn't deserve that

[DAF86]

The way this ref is calling the game, expect one or two more reds cards in this game.

[sefant77]

Next game destroyed by the ref

blargh

[Cry Havoc]

Ref's too fucking card happy. Swiss didn't deserve that

Once again we have an official that's ruining a very close, competitive game. :pctoss

And a big middle finger to the Chileans for propagating the flopping that's been so rampant this year. "Ohhh no you touched me in the face I need to act like I've been shot!"

[sefant77]

At least players adapting, thats more acting talent than Ben Affleck and J-Lo combined

The oscar goes to...

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Once again we have an official that's ruining a very close, competitive game. :pctoss

And a big middle finger to the Chileans for propagating the flopping that's been so rampant this year. "Ohhh no you touched me in the face I need to act like I've been shot!"

yeah, the flopping is just ridiculous. If FIFA doesn't start doing something about it, football is going to become a joke.

[Spurologist]

yeah, the flopping is just ridiculous. If FIFA doesn't start doing something about it, football is going to become a joke.

Something can only be done after the match cuz I don't think there's anything Blatter can do about it on the court.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Something can only be done after the match cuz I don't think there's anything Blatter can do about it on the court.

Obviously

[Cry Havoc]

yeah, the flopping is just ridiculous. If FIFA doesn't start doing something about it, football is going to become a joke.

There should be a review committee set up to look at each game. If a player over-exaggerates an injury (i.e., rolls around on the ground, getting carted off only to appear in action a few minutes later, or falls over in severe pain only to spring up after the ref cards someone), it should be an automatic one game suspension. This would encourage players to play through and not fall down even if they thought they were truly hit by another player.

If a player fakes being hit, as we saw yesterday with the Ivory Coast, it's an automatic two-game + probation, where the player will be suspended for the rest of the competition if he is found guilty of doing it again.

It's sad, if you watched the men's and women's World Cup right now, you would undeniably conclude that the women would be able to beat the hell out of the men in a brawl.

[Spurologist]

Obviously

Blatter is too chicken shit to do anything about it. I think if he wanted to, it would already have happened

[Cry Havoc]

Halftime. I am totally rooting for the Swiss right now. Fuck players who flop.

[DAF86]

Halftime. I am totally rooting for the Swiss right now. Fuck players who flop.

Swiss players flop too, all the players flop, it's already a cultural thing. If you don't flop you aren't doing all you can to help your team win, it may be sad but it's the way it is.

[Cry Havoc]

Swiss players flop too, all the players flop, it's already a cultural thing. If you don't flop you aren't doing all you can to help your team win, it may be sad but it's the way it is.

There are different levels of flopping. That move by the Chilean player was disgraceful. He got nudged in the face and looked like someone stepped on his mouth with cleats on.

If you go down in that much "pain", you should be out of the game for a mandatory 10-15 minutes.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

There should be a review committee set up to look at each game. If a player over-exaggerates an injury (i.e., rolls around on the ground, getting carted off only to appear in action a few minutes later, or falls over in severe pain only to spring up after the ref cards someone), it should be an automatic one game suspension. This would encourage players to play through and not fall down even if they thought they were truly hit by another player.

If a player fakes being hit, as we saw yesterday with the Ivory Coast, it's an automatic two-game + probation, where the player will be suspended for the rest of the competition if he is found guilty of doing it again.

It's sad, if you watched the men's and women's World Cup right now, you would undeniably conclude that the women would be able to beat the hell out of the men in a brawl.

well its a little more complicated than that. Some hits hurt like a motherfucker for a few seconds then just go away. I've had that happen to me. Ofcourse there are some intances that complete bullshit and are too obvious. Something needs to be done, but within reason. You can't just start giving out suspensions be done with it.

[Spurologist]

There should be a review committee set up to look at each game. If a player over-exaggerates an injury (i.e., rolls around on the ground, getting carted off only to appear in action a few minutes later, or falls over in severe pain only to spring up after the ref cards someone), it should be an automatic one game suspension. This would encourage players to play through and not fall down even if they thought they were truly hit by another player.

If a player fakes being hit, as we saw yesterday with the Ivory Coast, it's an automatic two-game + probation, where the player will be suspended for the rest of the competition if he is found guilty of doing it again.

It's sad, if you watched the men's and women's World Cup right now, you would undeniably conclude that the women would be able to beat the hell out of the men in a brawl.

I don't ever see that happening. You could also argue that a player that is legitimately fouled may not get the call if he doesn't flop. FIFA heads don't like interfering with game play. There have been far worse Flops that have happened in the world cup and FIFA has done nothing to punish the player. On a side note, there have also been goals have been given even though the ball didn't cross the line but FIFA stayed mute.

The most likely and only scenario that FIFA will ever consider is to put one or more refs on the pitch.

[Cry Havoc]

"This is getting a bit spiky."

:lmao

I love English announcers.

[Spurologist]

like for like no?

[Muser]

Oh hey more playacting!!

[Cry Havoc]

You can't just start giving out suspensions be done with it.

Something has to be done. There needs to be a very stern hand set out for players who flop. It's ridiculous. Set the punishment as severe enough that it's not worth it to even try flopping, because right now there is almost no penalty for rolling around on the ground like a 5 year old.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Something has to be done. There needs to be a very stern hand set out for players who flop. It's ridiculous. Set the punishment as severe enough that it's not worth it to even try flopping, because right now there is almost no penalty for rolling around on the ground like a 5 year old.

I'm saying in some cases its hard to tell when a player is actually hurt and when one is merely exaggerating. In SOME cases. Obviously, there are other times when its blatantly ridiculous, and there are no doubts that the player was flopping. All I'm saying is you have to be very careful you don't penalize someone that was geniunely hurting. Some hits are not crippling but hurt like a motherfucker.

[Spurologist]

South African scores!

[DAF86]

Goal, Chile needs to score one or two more times to almost secure his spot in the next round.

[Spurologist]

WTF is the ref looking at?

[LoneStarState'sPride]

I'm saying in some cases its hard to tell when a player is actually hurt and when one is merely exaggerating. In SOME cases. Obviously, there are other times when its blatantly ridiculous, and there are no doubts that the player was flopping. All I'm saying is you have to be very careful you don't penalize someone that was geniunely hurting. Some hits are not crippling but hurt like a motherfucker.

This is why Americans tend to believe soccer players are "soft." I know exactly what you're talking about with the hits that hurt like hell, but to be fair I've been hit even harder playing gridiron football and you're expected to get back up unless you're too hurt to continue. If it's a stinger, you're supposed to walk it off, not roll around on the ground.

Like you said, tho--it's a cultural difference at the end of the day.

[Spurologist]

unfuckingbelievable

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Choke job for the Swiss--not gonna get a better look than that.

[DAF86]

This is why Americans tend to believe soccer players are "soft." I know exactly what you're talking about with the hits that hurt like hell, but to be fair I've been hit even harder playing gridiron football and you're expected to get back up unless you're too hurt to continue. If it's a stinger, you're supposed to walk it off, not roll around on the ground.

Like you said, tho--it's a cultural difference at the end of the day.

Do you know how much does a simple hit on the legs hurt? a hit on the upperbody with pads and protection doesn't compare to a leg on leg clash, specially at professional speed.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Do you know how much does a simple hit on the legs hurt? a hit on the upperbody with pads and protection doesn't compare to a leg on leg clash, specially at professional speed.

Like I said, I've played both sports a LOT--just because you're wearing more pads in American football means little--you can get clipped on the legs just as hard in football btw--and of all the pads they wear, shinguards aren't one of them.

[ElNono]

Good win by Chile. That should put them through the second round.

Now we just need to see if Spain will pull another choke job (doubt it)

[DAF86]

Good win for Chile but they can't be too happy with the lone goal difference, now they will need to not lose against Spain to not be eliminated. Crazy that in this group a team will probably be out with six points and Italy can qualify with just three.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Spain better not choke again lol

[Spurologist]

This is why Americans tend to believe soccer players are "soft." I know exactly what you're talking about with the hits that hurt like hell, but to be fair I've been hit even harder playing gridiron football and you're expected to get back up unless you're too hurt to continue. If it's a stinger, you're supposed to walk it off, not roll around on the ground.

Like you said, tho--it's a cultural difference at the end of the day.

that soft argument has always been bullshit. Soccer is played at the feet and is very high paced. The majority of the football players get hit at chest level. It's a lot different when you are hit leg level. Football players may have it ingrained in their head to play through injury but I don't care who you are, you're not getting up from a nasty challenge. I do agree that there are certain cases where players are over dramatic.....there are so many rules regarding contact in the NFL that simulation can't exist. Otherwise, I think it would. Sorry but that perception angers me for players that run about 5 miles a game while sorting through tactics on the field to be considered soft. I just recently tore my ACL playing soccer without even being touched and I was told to get the fuck up....WTF?

[scott]

there are so many rules regarding contact in the NFL that simulation can't exist

Moreso than that - American Football is by definition a contact sport. Going down in a heap pretending you got hurt serves no purpose since you are SUPPOSED to get hit, it's not a foul, it's the entire point of the game!

Soccer players play through lots of pain and are tough as nails, but they cry like babies in ways that only NBA players can come close to rivaling. My favorite thing to laugh at is the magic spray. I love how a player can act like his leg needs to be amputated because he's in so much pain, but a little spray and he's good to go 100% again. It's just laughable. The Ivory Coast guy from yesterday was classic comedy as well.

[Spurologist]

Moreso than that - American Football is by definition a contact sport. Going down in a heap pretending you got hurt serves no purpose since you are SUPPOSED to get hit, it's not a foul, it's the entire point of the game!

Soccer players play through lots of pain and are tough as nails, but they cry like babies in ways that only NBA players can come close to rivaling. My favorite thing to laugh at is the magic spray. I love how a player can act like his leg needs to be amputated because he's in so much pain, but a little spray and he's good to go 100% again. It's just laughable. The Ivory Coast guy from yesterday was classic comedy as well.

Depends on the type of player you are but I agree. Some older generation players cringe at having to watch all the simulation these days. I admire players that don't flop but some of the shit I've seen from simulation has been hilarious.