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ceperez
06-24-2010, 09:04 PM
All 3 have the same kind of game.

Well if he can shoot then he can stay on the court.

But really not someone who can give the Spurs a different look.

but if the Spurs are paying his salary then they were wise to get someone who can contribute instead of a project.

the plus i see is he has got accuracy and athleticism.

ffadicted
06-24-2010, 09:10 PM
Anderson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hairston, Gee from what I've seen

smrattler
06-24-2010, 09:20 PM
Anderson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hairston, Gee from what I've seen


Today? Or in terms of potential?

I haven't seen enough of this guy to call it. But Hairston would be a very impressive rookie today.

4RINGS
06-24-2010, 09:21 PM
Does this mean James Anderson will spend alot of time in the D-League next year with Gee and Hairston?

murpjf88
06-24-2010, 09:22 PM
Anderson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hairston, Gee from what I've seen

Based on intuition?

dbestpro
06-24-2010, 09:25 PM
Got to think that all of those brick shots by Hairston has caught up with him. He may be better off spending time in Europe for a while.

tdunk21
06-24-2010, 09:27 PM
does anderson need time in austin?

ceperez
06-24-2010, 09:28 PM
Today? Or in terms of potential?

I haven't seen enough of this guy to call it. But Hairston would be a very impressive rookie today.

so anderson is just insurance that hairston or gee can contribute?

Jlowd21
06-24-2010, 09:29 PM
anderson will be the 3rd man off the bench next year behind hill and blair

slick'81
06-24-2010, 09:32 PM
spurs are now loaded at guard i wonder where this kid will fit i just hope he gets minutes and doesnt just sit on the pine

but with gee,hairston,temple and now anderson the spurs have options at the g spot

smrattler
06-24-2010, 09:36 PM
He's going to have to fight for minutes this year. As a rookie on a Pop team, it's gonna be tough I think. Maybe something like a Hill rookie year, given looks but then stashed in the playoffs. Just a hunch. Hope not, but if his defense is as weak and he's more of a specialist shooter like described, I see Pop taking a year to fix his defensive problems.

Then again, we do need a shooter.

I don't know. I'm very confused about what to possibly expect from this pick.

L.I.T
06-24-2010, 09:36 PM
If the scouting reports are to be believed, the guy is a great shooter with above average athleticism that could help him attack the basket. While he may not be a quality defender at the moment, it appears he has the physical tools necessary to become more than passable in that area.

Seems to me that he has the potential to add another dimension to the Spurs.

ffadicted
06-24-2010, 09:39 PM
If there was a playoff game tomorrow and I could pick between Hairston or Anderson right now, I'd pick Anderson. Our lane is too busy right now with tony/manu/tim/splitter/jefferson as slashers, Anderson is perfect to fill a role Roger Mason had in '09. Hairston is a better defender for sure though, it remains to be seen if Pop can teach Anderson a thing or two on that end.

Definitly better based on potential, and imo better right now as well, just can't call it cuz we havn't seen him in the big leagues yet

Chubby_Love
06-24-2010, 09:39 PM
I don't understand this pic. The Spurs are already filled with Guards, but they didn't have alot of options with forwards or Centers because there wasn't anything good available. I heard what I heard with Parker, but I'm glad they didn't pull the trade because I'd rather see Hill and This draft pick go than Parker.

DrSteffo
06-24-2010, 09:40 PM
Anderson will replace Mason who actually got minutes last season. That's good enough for me.

HarlemHeat37
06-24-2010, 09:41 PM
It depends on his defense, obviously..while Anderson can work on his D, Hairston and Gee can continue working on their lacking skills as well during the Summer..Summer League is going to be interesting..

While Temple and Anderson are probably more skilled then Hairston and Gee right now(at least IMO), they don't come near the athleticism of the latter 2, and neither of the formers(especially Temple) have the weight to compete against SFs..so that will be important as well..

I still maintain that Hairston and/or Gee's development is going to be crucial for the Spurs..neither are great prospects, but they're the only hopes for the Spurs to have athletic SFs to stick in for defensive purposes..Jefferson has no hope and nobody else on the roster fits the mold..

I really don't know how this will affect Temple/Hairston/Gee..Anderson is more of a SG than anything..are the Spurs going to stack up with guards in Parker/Hill/Manu/Anderson/Temple?..that would leave Jefferson as the only option to guard SFs, which obviously sucks, unless they want to bring Bogans back, which would suck even more..

Russ
06-24-2010, 09:43 PM
Hairston was a stiff in college.

Anderson was a stud.

slick'81
06-24-2010, 09:43 PM
[quote=HarlemHeat37;4447208]It depends on his defense, obviously..while Anderson can work on his D, Hairston and Gee can continue working on their lacking skills as well during the Summer..Summer League is going to be interesting..

While Temple and Anderson are probably more skilled then Hairston and Gee right now(at least IMO), they don't come near the athleticism of the latter 2, and neither of the formers(especially Temple) have the weight to compete against SFs..so that will be important as well..


agreed spurs need a legit sf to help out right now off the bench

smrattler
06-24-2010, 09:45 PM
The thing I like bout this pick is his "pedigree". He's a top dog out of high school, was a top dog in the Big 12 and I think asking him to hit some jumpers off the bench... for a natural shooter, I don't see him getting rookie nerves like most.

Pure shooting ability, wide open shots, with his background it should seem easy to him.

HarlemHeat37
06-24-2010, 09:48 PM
Anderson is a lock for the 12, no doubt about it IMO..it's just a matter of where and how much he will play, and whom it affects..I think this might affect Temple more than anybody IMO..

dbestpro
06-24-2010, 09:50 PM
Okay. I ask it. Does this guy remind anyone of the other Anderson? You know, Derek?

4RINGS
06-24-2010, 10:02 PM
Okay. I ask it. Does this guy remind anyone of the other Anderson? You know, Derek?

If he is as good as Derek... then we are on to something. :flag:

barbacoataco
06-24-2010, 10:06 PM
To call Anderson only a guard is unfair. He is a legit 6'6" with good reach. He is as tall as a lot of NBA SF/SG players like Mason or Bogans. He is also a lot better athlete than either of those guys.

TDMVPDPOY
06-24-2010, 10:09 PM
If he is as good as Derek... then we are on to something. :flag:

good as in mr.loyalty bolting when his contract is up?

ElNono
06-24-2010, 10:10 PM
Anderson is a great pickup...

... for the Toros :hat

Interrohater
06-24-2010, 10:12 PM
He said that he sees himself as a Joe Johnson, which I would be extremely happy with if he becomes that kind of player, but under the Popovich system.

ChuckD
06-24-2010, 10:15 PM
Anderson is a lock for the 12, no doubt about it IMO..it's just a matter of where and how much he will play, and whom it affects..I think this might affect Temple more than anybody IMO..

Nah. Hairston is now REALLY on the bubble. I thought he would have a hard time beating out Gee for a spot, but I think there is no way for him to beat out Gee and Anderson. Temple can run the point, which gives him an edge on almost all of these guys.

HarlemHeat37
06-24-2010, 10:17 PM
The only way it doesn't affect Temple the most is if Anderson is going to play SF..unless you think the Spurs will have a rotation consisting of 5 guards and 1 SF(RJ)..

Hairston, Gee and Temple are all on the bubble either way..none of them have shown enough to stick on a team, they will all have to have good showings in Summer League and TC..my opinion that Temple is the most affected is due to my belief that the Spurs view Hairston/Gee as SF and Anderson as a SG, and the Spurs undoubtedly need help at the SF position..

ohmwrecker
06-24-2010, 10:20 PM
Okay. I ask it. Does this guy remind anyone of the other Anderson? You know, Derek?
I was thinking Nick Anderson.

MaNu4Tres
06-24-2010, 10:26 PM
I don't see the Spurs going the veteran minimum wing route.

HarlemHeat37
06-24-2010, 10:29 PM
I won't say I can't see it, but it wouldn't make sense at this point..there really shouldn't be a reason to have a Bogans type of player on next year's roster..

ChuckD
06-24-2010, 10:30 PM
The only way it doesn't affect Temple the most is if Anderson is going to play SF..unless you think the Spurs will have a rotation consisting of 5 guards and 1 SF(RJ)..

Hairston, Gee and Temple are all on the bubble either way..none of them have shown enough to stick on a team, they will all have to have good showings in Summer League and TC..my opinion that Temple is the most affected is due to my belief that the Spurs view Hairston/Gee as SF and Anderson as a SG, and the Spurs undoubtedly need help at the SF position..

Pop has always said he considers the 2-3 and 4-5 positions interchangeable in the offense. He likes guys that can play more than 1 position, which is why Hairston is really on the bubble. He doesn't shoot or handle well enough to really slide over to the SG position. I'm not sure Gee does, either, and I think they are competing for one spot.

Temple is 6'6" and showed with his handle that he can probably slide between three positions.

TD=HOF
06-24-2010, 10:46 PM
No way hairston makes the 12, mason is gonna be dropped, this guy will get minutes next yr. Not like Gee has proven himself as this level, keep temple & give the rook a chance. If he's as 'great' a shooter as they claim, he'll be just fine

DPG21920
06-24-2010, 10:47 PM
I hate our potential SF depth

TIMMYD!
06-24-2010, 10:51 PM
Chances he averages more than 10 mpg next season?

slick'81
06-24-2010, 10:52 PM
Chances he averages more than 10 mpg next season?


thats what im wondering

SpurCharger
06-24-2010, 11:01 PM
Anderson Is A better Shooter then Gee and Hairston by far..... But Gee and Hairston Are gonna know the spurs system better

jag
06-24-2010, 11:03 PM
Hairston was a stiff in college.

Anderson was a stud.

I agree, but no one really knows if he's athletic enough to defend NBA 2-guards. Hairston's athleticism and body strength are definitely NBA level.

I hope and assume anderson's shooting touch will translate to the NBA, but i also assumed Jack Mcclinton could knock down an open NBA three.

ABrooks111
06-24-2010, 11:04 PM
There is absolutely no way Hairston is more of a contributor to this team next season than James Anderson. That's absurd.

He'll probably be the third best player on SA's bench as a rookie.

Sigz
06-24-2010, 11:04 PM
James Gist.

SpursTillTheEnd
06-24-2010, 11:06 PM
hariston better be on this team let him play sf fuck rj

BackHome
06-24-2010, 11:10 PM
Anderson and Durant were both big 12 players of the year. So I think he is pretty much our replacment for Mason and may see time at SF if Hairston and Gee don't pan out.

Agloco
06-25-2010, 12:11 AM
I don't understand this pic. The Spurs are already filled with Guards, but they didn't have alot of options with forwards or Centers because there wasn't anything good available. I heard what I heard with Parker, but I'm glad they didn't pull the trade because I'd rather see Hill and This draft pick go than Parker.

They needed an athletic shooter and they got one.

Agloco
06-25-2010, 12:16 AM
spurs are now loaded at guard i wonder where this kid will fit i just hope he gets minutes and doesnt just sit on the pine

but with gee,hairston,temple and now anderson the spurs have options at the g spot

.....and the women will love them for it. :lol

But seriously, I think the Spurs are opening the window for a trade involving a guard for a SF at some point.

ChuckD
06-25-2010, 12:24 AM
Another thing working against Hairston is that he is no longer Austin eligible. That means he's either on the 12 man roster, or a waste of money sitting in a suit and not developing. Temple, Gee, and Jerrells all have another year where they can be farmed out to get some PT up the road if none is available in SA.

TD 21
06-25-2010, 12:55 AM
The only way it doesn't affect Temple the most is if Anderson is going to play SF..unless you think the Spurs will have a rotation consisting of 5 guards and 1 SF(RJ)..

Hairston, Gee and Temple are all on the bubble either way..none of them have shown enough to stick on a team, they will all have to have good showings in Summer League and TC..my opinion that Temple is the most affected is due to my belief that the Spurs view Hairston/Gee as SF and Anderson as a SG, and the Spurs undoubtedly need help at the SF position..

I don't think Temple is affected at all. He's the third PG and played well in his brief stint last season. Sure, it would be nice if he had a longer track record in the NBA, but considering the Spurs have Parker, Hill and Ginobili to handle the ball, I can't imagine they view third PG as a pressing need. If anything, the Spurs picking Anderson over, say, Williams, improves Temple's chances of sticking. Anderson is a catch-and-shoot wing, not a ball handling guard.

Unless Hairston and Gee look terrible in Summer League, I actually think the Spurs will forgo signing a veteran wing because Anderson is expected to be an instant contribute. He can fill the Mason role, Hairston can fill the Bogans role.

jjktkk
06-25-2010, 12:56 AM
Anderson was the best player available, talent wise at 20, and was considered one of the top shooters in this draft. Great pick for our Spurs IMO.

spursfan1000
06-25-2010, 01:18 AM
If he can hit the jumpshot consistantly then I believe her can find some minutes in the rotation, remember Mason got a shit load of minutes for us 2 years ago with no DEFENSE, but he was able to make the jumper.

SenorSpur
06-25-2010, 01:44 AM
I really don't know how this will affect Temple/Hairston/Gee..Anderson is more of a SG than anything..are the Spurs going to stack up with guards in Parker/Hill/Manu/Anderson/Temple?..that would leave Jefferson as the only option to guard SFs, which obviously sucks, unless they want to bring Bogans back, which would suck even more..

Therein lies the issue with RC and Pop's decision. For the life of me, I can't understand why they're in love with shorter perimeter playersl. They are seemingly stockpiling players with the same measurables and less preoccupied with getting more length, and perimeter defense. Who is RJ's backup at SF? It's almost as though they are addicted to all perimeter players, 6'5" and under.

sexinthatsx
06-25-2010, 01:52 AM
Dude, stop hating on RJ, he'll have a bounce back season and considering teams will focus on Splitter, parker, duncan, and ginobili, RJ will get better looks than ever.

EricB
06-25-2010, 01:54 AM
Shocking Senor finds a problem with drafting the best available player :lol unreal.

Senor is the epitome of the poster that you could put in the middle of fort knox and would bitch cause you wouldn't help him carry out more gold...

Lphenom
06-25-2010, 01:58 AM
This guy is way better than Hairston and Gee! I go to Toros games and Ive seen Anderson play against TExas. This dude is the real deal!

SenorSpur
06-25-2010, 02:05 AM
Shocking Senor finds a problem with drafting the best available player :lol unreal.

Senor is the epitome of the poster that you could put in the middle of fort knox and would bitch cause you wouldn't help him carry out more gold...

...and leave it to you take issue with anyone whose opinion doesn't rival your own.

I didn't say the kid was a bad pick. On the contrary, the kid is proven. The point is the Spurs have stockpiled players that have the same measureables at the same position. There still lacking the key element of length on the perimeter. Perhaps if you come up for air every now and then you'd understand.

EricB
06-25-2010, 02:10 AM
I didn't say the kid was a bad pick. He was probably the best they could do at that spot. My point was the Spurs have stockpiled players that have the same measureables.

Read the entire post, shithead.

I read the entire post shit head.

Again, you bitched about the pick.

Fact.

Own up to it.

Shithead.

SenorSpur
06-25-2010, 02:12 AM
I read the entire post shit head.

Again, you bitched about the pick.

Fact.

Own up to it.

Shithead.

Go pierce yourself with a rusty fork.

Interrohater
06-25-2010, 02:13 AM
Dude, stop hating on RJ, he'll have a bounce back season and considering teams will focus on Splitter, parker, duncan, and ginobili, RJ will get better looks than ever.

I'm glad you pointed this out because I was going to start a discussion on it. I think, or I'm hoping really, that with a full year of getting to know the system and learning his place and pace within it, he might turn the corner in his second season. Let's not fail to admit that he's a talented and athletic forward that still has a lot of weapons in his arsenal. The biggest problem that he was having last year, and scores of Spurstalk posts can attest to this, was his inability to mesh his game with the rest of the squad's game.

Again, it's a hope more than any factual evidence, or recent history; but I don't think we should write him off just yet as a total bust. He logged 12.3 ppg, 4.4 rpg and 2 apg, which is not a bad line, honestly. Yea, it's a bad line for someone who costs as much as he does, but he can only improve from here on out because he now owns the much coveted "corporate knowledge".

If we get a trade offer, obviously we pull the trigger. I doubt we will though, so I'm having high hopes that he increases his PPG, RPG and APG to 15, 6 and 3, which would be a significant difference in production.

Kori Ellis
06-25-2010, 02:15 AM
I hate our potential SF depth

True. I have no idea who they can get with the LLE or minimum. But they can't hang with just RJ as a the only true SF on the roster.

Spursfan 87
06-25-2010, 02:15 AM
Anderson is an instant upgrade over Mason

mingus
06-25-2010, 02:54 AM
i think the added (hopefully) length of Splitter will make the dearth of SF less exploitable. an interior of Splitter/Duncan will send a lot of shots away once guys get in the lane, unlike the last couple years. however, the two 3's that could cause problems for this team are Kevin Durant and Melo off the top of my head. Rj isn't a good enough of a defender to guard those guys that well and the lack of a sf-defender hurts. i'm assumming he'll find time at the SG and SF spots this season because the Spurs will benefit from his shooting enough that they'll be able to maybe have him outsized at the sf position.

DesignatedT
06-25-2010, 03:01 AM
Gee>Anderson>Hairston.

sorry.

ChumpDumper
06-25-2010, 03:15 AM
True. I have no idea who they can get with the LLE or minimum. But they can't hang with just RJ as a the only true SF on the roster.Yeah, very slim pickings in the minimum D-League category. Trey Gilder has length but is very inconsistent and can't put on weight; would need some Toros time to do anything. One vet that really raised his game in the D-League playoffs after other players got called up or injured was Larry Owens. He put the Tulsa team on his back more than once and had impressive all-around performances.

Interrohater
06-25-2010, 03:23 AM
Gee>Anderson>Hairston.

sorry.

Well if that's true, then the possibility arises that the FO is shopping George Hill around. If Temple is primed to man the backup PG spot, with Manu of course, and Gee and Anderson are sharing the SG duties, then that leaves George Hill as the odd man out. Now I can see Pop wanting to play his "corporate knowledge" guy ahead of both of them, but last year I was getting mixed signals from Pop. As a professional lie detector, it was rubbing me the wrong way when Pop kept calling Hill his favorite player and would gush about him to the media. Hill doesn't seem like the sort of player that needs to be babied, so I was sort of confused. Especially given Pop's previous history of railing into all of his players, superstars and role-players alike. (In the biz, we call that establishing a baseline.)

It's not that Pop was flat-out lying, but it did seem like there was something behind the words more than just a pure desire to compliment Hill on his progress. My guess, and it's only a guess, is that Pop genuinely likes George Hill and would love to keep him, but he realized that he needs more pieces to win another title than just a tweener guard. So maybe he began laying the foundation for a future trade using the media and puffing up Hill's own self-image.

In all reality, I'd say with confidence that the Spurs' title hopes don't rest solely with George Hill and they wouldn't diminish significantly if he were to depart.

admiralsnackbar
06-25-2010, 04:46 AM
I was thinking Nick Anderson.

I was thinking Willie... :lol

BG_Spurs_Fan
06-25-2010, 05:05 AM
Therein lies the issue with RC and Pop's decision. For the life of me, I can't understand why they're in love with shorter perimeter playersl. They are seemingly stockpiling players with the same measurables and less preoccupied with getting more length, and perimeter defense. Who is RJ's backup at SF? It's almost as though they are addicted to all perimeter players, 6'5" and under.

Ideally the Spurs would need a long perimeter back-up for RJ, but what does it have to do with the pick of Anderson? It's not like there were very talented long 3s available in the draft that the Spurs passed on. They selected the best available player, which was the smart thing to do.

benefactor
06-25-2010, 05:22 AM
True. I have no idea who they can get with the LLE or minimum. But they can't hang with just RJ as a the only true SF on the roster.
This is the biggest reason I wanted Pondexter. He may not be the shooter Anderson is(or he may be...no one really knows), but he is more of a true SF.

ceperez
06-25-2010, 06:23 AM
DraftExpress measurements for further comparison:

eight w/o Shoes Height w/shoes Weight Wingspan Standing Reach Body Fat No Step Vert Max Vert Bench Press Lane Agility 3/4 Court Sprint Class Rank
6' 4.75" 6' 5.75" 208 6' 8.5" 8' 8" 7.9 30.0 35.5 14 11.86 3.19 NA
6' 4.25" 6' 5.25" 204 6' 9" 8' 7.5" 6.9 30.5 38.0 13 11.33 3.08 NA


From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/James-Anderson-5106/#ixzz0rrWkL8jg



From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Malik-Hairston-214/#ixzz0rrWt4bP4


Roughly about identical, Malik however being slightly more athletic.

No measurements for Gee other than this:

Alonzo Gee 6' 5.25" 6' 6.5" 225 6' 10"

So Gee is the tallest on the list, and likely to be the most athletic. A bit undersized for SF, but serviceable.

Hairston has got a nice attitude, can go strong to the ring however I've always suspected his long range shooting abilities. Anderson, being a 1st rounder, is guaranteed to be signed. So its a toss up between Gee and Hairston, but based on pure potential Gee without a doubt is much better than Hairston.

Looks like Hairston's days as a Spur may be limited. He's a great guy, but there's no room in the lineup.

Interrohater
06-25-2010, 06:46 AM
Looks like Hairston's days as a Spur may be limited. He's a great guy, but there's no room in the lineup.

So what does that mean for the starting lineup? Is Manu starting or does he come off the bench? If he's off the bench, is Hill starting alongside Tony or is he now relegated to only a pg backup? So to make room for Gee and Anderson, Hill's minutes will be cut into at the SG position. Hairston rarely played as it was and Mason averaged 19 mpg, I don't know where the minutes will come from, unless one of them sits in a suit. I think someone else will either be dropped or traded (Hill). Manu, Tony, Temple, Hill, Gee, and Anderson (Of course, assuming that Mason and Hairston will be let go) is a lot of guards for two spots.

I honestly think that Hill will be the next to go. I'm pretty sure (read:my own opinion) that he'll be traded to get the SF that we're looking for.

JonNOKC
06-25-2010, 07:08 AM
I don't think the 3 are that much alike

Anderson is clearly the best shooter of the group - not even close - can be servicable defender - and offensively a huge upgrade over Hairston - also athletically Anderson and Hairston are similiar

Gee is a SF right now in the NBA - guys shot is flat out ugly - he is a very physical player who gets to the rim and FT line - in many respects he is a shorter but tougher RJ - I think he can have success at the next level off the bench and as a defender, but at times will be a liability on the court like Jefferson if he can't develop an outside shot.

Hairston may have the best all around game of the 3 but defense is clearly his strong point right now - very inconsistent outside shooter and right now doesn't really have NBA range on his 3.

In the end if Anderson slipped to 20th you had to take him - especially considering this team needed outside shooting and Hairston/Gee that is huge weakness in thier game right now

BG_Spurs_Fan
06-25-2010, 07:14 AM
Anderson >>>>>>>>>> Hairston, Gee.

There can be no comparison between the three. Anderson is a rotation NBA player right now. Hairston's and Gee's upside is about a decent 9th-10th man. Anderson could grow to be a very competent scorer and starter for a team.

Interrohater
06-25-2010, 07:21 AM
Ah, ok then. If Gee is playing SF, then there's the blow-off valve. It still seems crowded, but we'll just have to wait and see if the FO is willing to stand pat with the current lineup (after Splitter is signed ::fingers crossed::)

JonNOKC
06-25-2010, 07:23 AM
Anderson >>>>>>>>>> Hairston, Gee.

There can be no comparison between the three. Anderson is a rotation NBA player right now. Hairston's and Gee's upside is about a decent 9th-10th man. Anderson could grow to be a very competent scorer and starter for a team.

I think you can compare certain part of thier games but I agree they really aren't that much alike and Anderson is clearly the most NBA ready and on the offensive end of the court it isn't even close

ChuckD
06-25-2010, 07:37 AM
Therein lies the issue with RC and Pop's decision. For the life of me, I can't understand why they're in love with shorter perimeter playersl. They are seemingly stockpiling players with the same measurables and less preoccupied with getting more length, and perimeter defense. Who is RJ's backup at SF? It's almost as though they are addicted to all perimeter players, 6'5" and under.

They're what's available. Put it this way: RJ's the right size that you want, and he can't fucking shoot. Phoenix made that the cornerstone of their defensive plan: make RJ a jump shooter. I'm sure if there were a 6'8" player with Anderson's quals, the Spurs would have taken him. There wasn't.

Jay Bilas called Anderson the best shooter in the draft last night, and that's probably our one glaring skill need. Tim isn't athletic or quick enough to split or overpower the double team anymore. He NEEDS shooters around him, and we got probably the best college shooter available. He also has the rare quality in a young player of being good at both catch and shoot, and off the bounce.

wildbill2u
06-25-2010, 10:19 AM
Today? Or in terms of potential?

I haven't seen enough of this guy to call it. But Hairston would be a very impressive rookie today.

Hairston would have problems with being drafted based on his outside shooting as displayed in his limited appearances in 47 games this year. I'll give you that he hustles, plays d and slashes--but his 3 pt shooting was .187% and that won't keep you in the big show as a 2 or 3.

There's a reason he had limited appearances --despite his loud fan base on SpursTalk.

clubalien
06-25-2010, 10:23 AM
Well if that's true, then the possibility arises that the FO is shopping George Hill around. If Temple is primed to man the backup PG spot, with Manu of course, and Gee and Anderson are sharing the SG duties, then that leaves George Hill as the odd man out. Now I can see Pop wanting to play his "corporate knowledge" guy ahead of both of them, but last year I was getting mixed signals from Pop. As a professional lie detector, it was rubbing me the wrong way when Pop kept calling Hill his favorite player and would gush about him to the media. Hill doesn't seem like the sort of player that needs to be babied, so I was sort of confused. Especially given Pop's previous history of railing into all of his players, superstars and role-players alike. (In the biz, we call that establishing a baseline.)


the front office might not like ghill's pornstar past and wish to move him

wildbill2u
06-25-2010, 10:36 AM
I posted a link to the basketball combine measurements and atheletic ability stats the other day. This guy is VERY athletic.

http://www.nbadraft.net/nba-draft-combine-athleticism-test-results

His standing vertical and max vertical of 30 and 35 inches compare favorably with a lot of centers. His agility drill was good and his speed sprint for 3/4 of the court was excellent 3.18 seconds.

Seeing as how he was Big 12 player of the year and a proven shooter, I think he will get some minutes unless his injury returns.

Temple can play point. He stays as backup. Gee is reputed to be a shooter who can play some 3--so maybe he's a cheap choice behind RJ & stays.

Hairston can't go back to D league, I think he is odd man out based on his shooting performance which was dismal.

SpursTillTheEnd
06-25-2010, 10:47 AM
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malik will have a spot on this team, rj sucks no way he will get better this year no way fuck rj give his sopt to gee or malik

spursfan1000
06-25-2010, 10:50 AM
Anderson can play the 2 and Hariston the 3.

TD 21
06-25-2010, 05:40 PM
This is the biggest reason I wanted Pondexter. He may not be the shooter Anderson is(or he may be...no one really knows), but he is more of a true SF.

So you'd rather fill a positional need over picking the best player available? Particularly when the two players in question are similar in size? I know Pondexter is a true SF and Anderson a true SG, but still.

Ideally, I'd like to see another prototypical SF on the roster, but we just saw the Celtics come within' a few plays of winning a championship with 6-4 213 T. Allen backing up Pierce. Obviously, their SF duo is better than the Spurs, but in terms of size, they're similar. Pierce is 6-6 230, Jefferon is 6-7 225 and Hairston is 6-6 (really 6-5) 220. At times, the Lakers had Bryant (6-6 205) playing backup SF. The Magic had 6-6 210 Pietrus backing up at SF.

Jlowd21
06-25-2010, 06:01 PM
Having prototypical size at the 2 and 3 is not a huge need during these times in the NBA. We just need players that can fill a need for the team. 3 point shooting seemed like the biggest need for us this past year in the playoffs IMO. Ginobili seemed to be the only player we had who could knock down 3's on a consistent basis. After his nose was broke we could forget about him knocking down shots. Then we had to rely on George Hill shooting our 3's... and sorry but he is not a great 3pt shooter. I don't care if Anderson's an inch too short to satisfy all the naysayers. If he can knock down 3's, he has a place on this team.

DrSteffo
06-26-2010, 01:22 AM
We had no real depth last season and guys like Mason and Bogans got minutes as a result. Anderson makes perfect sense as a Mason replacement. Also we need to limit Manu's minutes in the regular season.

We do need another true SF but you cannot solve all the problems with pick #20 in the draft. Maybe we will just pick up the best available SF from the pool of FA. A trade is another possibility, or we could stick with Hairston. In order to improve the depth from last season we only need an improvement over Bogans.

benefactor
06-26-2010, 01:54 PM
Pondexter is not a true SF. He is a PF/SF tweener........very poor ball handler and shooter...He could be a bust....to me hes Desmond Mason part 2
lol Alabi
lol sources

benefactor
06-26-2010, 10:36 PM
LOL I called anderson, lol Crawford was going to be taken if Anderson wasnt on the board I called it well before it was reported on draft night, lol Alabi has illness that may prevent him from playing the NBA sent out memo a day before draft with details he was listed at top of thier list.
What are you talking about? You never mentioned Anderson when citing your "sources". You also said they would take only take Crawford if they moved TP and that they were ready to settle for James, Alabi and Orton. From here it looks like you are 0-4.

Take it for what its worth spurs are zeroing in on James, Crawford and Alabi at 20.

I have a little inside info on the NBA as I have 2 friends that play in the NBA and a relative that has worked as a trainer for a couple NBA teams, I think thats more than most of the people you have anointed as having a specific beat or aspect of the franchise.

Take it for what its worth but what I was told is SA is ready to settle for James but should they move TP they really like Crawford as he can play pg or SG, has unlimited range on his shot, can get to the rim and is a great finisher/ great athlete

If TP stays Alabi and Orton are the targets. They love Alabit as the FO has stated he is one of the sharpest guys they have ever interviewed. He can help right now by clogging the lane and blocking shots.

D Ort, not sure why they like him unless they are looking to get Okl to panic and try to move up.

Others that made the list D Jones of SFlor, Larry Sanders of VCU and hold your breath.......Bledsoe.
lol sources
lol D-1 college player

redskinfan
06-27-2010, 12:07 PM
I'm honestly wondering why some of you compare Anderson to these scrubs?

benefactor
06-27-2010, 12:55 PM
You cant really be that stupid...Called anderson on thread with ...pick spurs players and win a prize....Crawford was listed under anderson and Alabi Had anderson been gone and Alabi not have a serious med condition FORD stated he was told dirrectly Alabi would be the pick.

Orton was a fall back pick who had a bad report released from NBA prior to draft with Alabi.

Your a dumb ass, while you watched the draft with your mom I was with my Boy Larry watching him get picked by the Bucks...
So your sources were wrong? If that's true why didn't you say that initially? What about James? Oh, and that report you are talking about was released at the beginning of June...and you cited your so called sources less than a week before the draft.

You guessing Anderson in the draft thread means nothing. If anything it proved that you have no sources and you were just throwing a bunch of names out there hoping you'd get one right.

So once again...lol sources. But hey, I'm sure you and Larry had a nice time taking turns pitching and catching after it was over.

Aggie Hoopsfan
06-27-2010, 01:13 PM
I don't understand this pic. The Spurs are already filled with Guards, but they didn't have alot of options with forwards or Centers because there wasn't anything good available. I heard what I heard with Parker, but I'm glad they didn't pull the trade because I'd rather see Hill and This draft pick go than Parker.

We essentially have Tony, Hill, and Manu.

Look at it as Anderson replaces Mason.

And if anyone thinks Hairston or Gee are on Anderson's level, they aren't paying attention.

Aggie Hoopsfan
06-27-2010, 01:14 PM
Having prototypical size at the 2 and 3 is not a huge need during these times in the NBA. We just need players that can fill a need for the team. 3 point shooting seemed like the biggest need for us this past year in the playoffs IMO. Ginobili seemed to be the only player we had who could knock down 3's on a consistent basis. After his nose was broke we could forget about him knocking down shots. Then we had to rely on George Hill shooting our 3's... and sorry but he is not a great 3pt shooter. I don't care if Anderson's an inch too short to satisfy all the naysayers. If he can knock down 3's, he has a place on this team.

You're right, we don't need prototypical size at the 3. It's not like teams like Phoenix and LA have destroyed us at that position for the last several years...

ace3g
06-27-2010, 05:40 PM
exactly no more Bogans, Udoka type guys at 6'5. I only want 6'7 or taller players to fill out the rest of the roster.

Spurs Brazil
06-27-2010, 06:09 PM
exactly no more Bogans, Udoka type guys at 6'5. I only want 6'7 or taller players to fill out the rest of the roster.

Agree, I have no problem with Gee or Malik as a 5th wing but we need a true small foward off the bench

benefactor
06-27-2010, 06:43 PM
Your a dumb ass, while you watched the draft with your mom I was with my Boy Larry watching him get picked by the Bucks...
I just caught this. You were with Larry Sanders? Pics or it didn't happen.

TD 21
06-27-2010, 06:52 PM
I'm not saying for certain that the Spurs won't sign an SF, but I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't. In Anderson and Hairston, they have ready made Mason and Bogans replacements, only they're younger, cheaper, more athletic and have a higher upside. All things that fit the direction this team is going, at least in the bottom half of the roster.

Even if they sign an SF for the minimum, considering they're a tax paying team, they'd be paying double the salary for a player that would likely be used sparingly.

The Spurs know that there's a good chance that they'll have to pay Splitter the full MLE long term, they're already a tax paying team and even with him signed, they'll still need a fifth big. Which is another reason they may not sign a veteran SF.

Because of their financial situation and their need to get younger, cheaper and more athletic, as well as the fact that they've spent two years developing Hairston, spent a decent amount to pry Gee away from the Wizards and managed to have a ready-to-play shooter/scorer fall into their laps in the draft, I've got to believe that barring highly underwhelming performances in Summer League from Hairston and Gee, that they're content to go with a combination of Hairston, Anderson, Ginobili and Gee backing up Jefferson at SF.

I think they break camp with fourteen, maybe even thirteen players on the roster. I don't see them paying even a minimum salary veteran SF just to have insurance at the position. What I could see them doing is signing a wing to a non-guaranteed contract. Possibly a veteran, like D. Mason did last summer or a young player like Anderson (Antonio).

SpursNextRomanEmpire
06-27-2010, 07:50 PM
Your the village idiot arent you? I wont respond to everything you said, as I have said before I offer up what I know from real NBA players who I am close to.

The spurs run a tight ship, but I got the scoop on Crawford before Ford reported it.

I didnt report anderson, although I did pick him correctly because the Spurs and everyone else in the draft thought Anderson would be gone.....Should I have reported the Spurs had Wall on thier board? They did but he was not falling to 20 just like Anderson was not expected to so I reported what I heard and later on draft night Ford reported the same people minus Orton.

The report you are talking about???? Im unsure but Alabi has tested for a med condition that may shorten his career and that was released to the teams 24 hours prior to the draft. Why do you think the 22 best player fell to 50??? It is said to be a major illness.

I said if TP was traded the Spurs would have taken Crawford.....TP was not traded so why would they take another combo pg/sg???


Your either a real turd, or you try to police the activity on this site to somehow stimulate your teenage mind.

I offer up what I hear because I thought this to be a place where true spurs fans come to give imput and share thoughts. Take what I say for what its worth, not here to spend time debating trolls.

As for your request for pics, you dont even know what I look like so how could I prove that to you, I could just get larry with anothe dude and say thats me.......I played on the guys team for 2 years, so I dont need to go around posting picks of him and me together.

If you want to meet him he loves extreme pizza on Broad St in Rich VA....Look him up.

:blah pics or it didnt happen

benefactor
06-27-2010, 08:50 PM
Your the village idiot arent you? I wont respond to everything you said, as I have said before I offer up what I know from real NBA players who I am close to.

:rolleyes:wakeup


I didnt report anderson, although I did pick him correctly because the Spurs and everyone else in the draft thought Anderson would be gone.....Should I have reported the Spurs had Wall on thier board? They did but he was not falling to 20 just like Anderson was not expected to so I reported what I heard and later on draft night Ford reported the same people minus Orton.

So now Anderson was a lottery pick? Lmao. This is just a cop out so you can backpedal out of the fact that you never even mentioned him when you cited your sources. Anderson was at 20 in DX's mock and 23 NBADraftnet and was easily in range for the Spurs the whole time. You need to stop listening to Bilas.


The report you are talking about???? Im unsure but Alabi has tested for a med condition that may shorten his career and that was released to the teams 24 hours prior to the draft. Why do you think the 22 best player fell to 50??? It is said to be a major illness.

I was talking about Orton. You said that your sources said the Spurs might draft him well after the reports of his knee came out. lol sources.


I offer up what I hear because I thought this to be a place where true spurs fans come to give imput and share thoughts. Take what I say for what its worth, not here to spend time debating trolls.

As for your request for pics, you dont even know what I look like so how could I prove that to you, I could just get larry with anothe dude and say thats me.......I played on the guys team for 2 years, so I dont need to go around posting picks of him and me together.

If you want to meet him he loves extreme pizza on Broad St in Rich VA....Look him up.
More cop outs. By the way, which one are you?

http://www.vcuathletics.com/mbb_roster.php