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06-24-2010, 09:41 PM
Celtics veteran Wallace to retire after 15 seasons

By David Aldridge, TNT analyst

Posted Jun 24 2010 7:39PM
The Boston Celtics' expected rebuilding began Thursday when veteran forward Rasheed Wallace officially decided to retire after 15 NBA seasons, a league source said.

Wallace's retirement had been expected after the Celtics' seven-game loss to the Lakers in the Finals, but Boston had held out some hope that the 35-year-old would change his mind with a few days' contemplation.

Wallace signed a three-year, $18.9 million contract with Boston last summer, turning down offers from Orlando and San Antonio after the Celtics made a team-wide push to recruit him, sending Coach Doc Rivers, GM Danny Ainge and forwards Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce to Wallace's home to ask him to play in Boston. He left more than $12 million on the table by opting to retire.

Wallace was not in great shape at the beginning of the season, but saved his best play for late in the regular season and in the playoffs, stepping in at center when starter Kendrick Perkins was injured and could not go in Game 7.

A controversial figure who amassed numerous technical fouls in his career amid numerous run-ins with referees, Wallace averaged 14.6 points and 6.7 rebounds in his career, which included stops in Washington, Portland, Atlanta (for just one game before he was traded to Detroit), the Pistons and Celtics. He was the key acquisition in Detroit's run to the 2004 NBA championship, teaming with center Ben Wallace to form a nearly impregnable halfcourt defense in the paint.

spursfan1000
06-24-2010, 09:43 PM
ah makes the Spurs decision to sign Mcdyess much better.

spursfan1000
06-24-2010, 09:45 PM
Dyess should retire as well. He's a bum

Cool.

LnGrrrR
06-24-2010, 09:46 PM
Sheed played very well in the last few rounds of the playoffs and sucked in the regular season. I'll kinda miss him... somewhat. He was an entertaining player at least.

024
06-24-2010, 09:50 PM
he's "retiring." near the FA deadline, he's going to the highest contender, which will probably either be the lakers or some kind of wade/bosh/amare/lebron combo team.

Chubby_Love
06-24-2010, 09:51 PM
Dyess should retire as well. He's a bum Agree.

JamStone
06-24-2010, 09:56 PM
Good career, Roscoe. It's time to hang it up.

Congratz on going out the way you always did it, by being real, getting escorted out of Staples screaming conspiracy. That's who you are. And while it's both funny and frustrating at the same time, I still got love for what you did here in Detroit.

Darrin
06-24-2010, 10:10 PM
13.4 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 1.8 apg, 1.0 spg, 1.56 bpg in 399 games for the Detroit Pistons
268-131 (.672) with Pistons
Five Consecutive Conference Finals (2004-2008)
Two Consecutive NBA Finals Appearances (2004-2005)
NBA Champion (2003-04)

http://phoenix.fanster.com/files/2009/02/rasheedwallacesuns.jpg

You will be missed.

MI21
06-24-2010, 10:16 PM
My favourite non-Spur player ever.

Way to go, Sheed.

Greg Oden
06-24-2010, 10:21 PM
He could've been a lot better.

monosylab1k
06-24-2010, 10:22 PM
He could've been a lot better.

a whole lot better. he's a cult hero instead of the superstar he should have been.

guess it just wasn't what sheed wanted.

monosylab1k
06-24-2010, 10:23 PM
tbh sheed in beast mode > KG or Duncan in their prime.

too bad sheed almost never put it into beast mode.

Goran Dragic
06-24-2010, 10:24 PM
tbh sheed in beast mode > KG or Duncan in their prime.

too bad sheed almost never put it into beast mode.


Real talk, Sheed had such a wide arsenal of undefendable post shots, he coulda been Tim Duncan with range if he wanted.

baseline bum
06-24-2010, 10:35 PM
tbh sheed in beast mode > KG or Duncan in their prime.

too bad sheed almost never put it into beast mode.

He's way too weak of a rebounder to be mentioned with those two.

monosylab1k
06-24-2010, 10:36 PM
He's way too weak of a rebounder to be mentioned with those two.

When Sheed turned it on, there wasn't a PF in the league I'd take over him. His problem is that he so rarely turned it on.

Dex
06-24-2010, 10:39 PM
Dear Sheed,

Thanks for not closing out.

Signed,

http://www.nba.com/media/spurs/elliott_miracle_200w.jpg

http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/81413804.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF8789215ABF3343C02EA548056D9E73A6C3BFD0 DAFC6AD6B140E3C36AD79C8D37712199

P.S. Both teams played hard.

Veterinarian
06-24-2010, 10:39 PM
Dyess should retire as well. He's a bum

Remember when you pretended to be black?

Veterinarian
06-24-2010, 10:42 PM
:lmao

typo fixed before you posted tbh.

lol pretending to be black

bostonguy
06-24-2010, 10:45 PM
And the Celts implosion continues. It started last Thursday night. Now Sheed retires. Ray Allen will find a new home and Doc isnt coming back. Pierce will either be dealt at the deadline or bolt next summer. KG has 2 years left so he will be a nice expiring to dangle around next summer. Perkins is expiring as is Baby Davis.

That is the plus side to all this is they can rebuild already. The only long term deal the Celts have is Rondo's.

baseline bum
06-24-2010, 10:45 PM
Dear Sheed,

Thanks for not closing out.

Signed,

http://www.nba.com/media/spurs/elliott_miracle_200w.jpg


He closed out pretty well there. Elliott barely got that shot over his fingertips. It looked like it was about an inch or two from getting sent in the stands.

bostonguy
06-24-2010, 10:47 PM
Sheed didn't have it in him to ever be that great. He never wanted to be the man and couldn't take the pressure of it. Yeah he had all the physical tools, but he sure as hell lacked the mentality. It was a major flaw in Sheed's game.

Giuseppe
06-24-2010, 10:49 PM
gigo

LakasRool4eva
06-24-2010, 10:49 PM
did he gauranshee he's retiring????????????????

Giuseppe
06-24-2010, 10:51 PM
& the stupid ass with visions of CWEBB dancing in his head turned his back on Horry.

The f'in mook.

Dex
06-24-2010, 11:06 PM
He closed out pretty well there. Elliott barely got that shot over his fingertips. It looked like it was about an inch or two from getting sent in the stands.

Agreed. Considering he was covering for Augmon after the steal attempt, he defended it about as well as he could. Augmon should've stayed with his man.

Still, getting a hand up on a three and running a three point shooter off the line are two entirely different things. Looking back, those must be two tough shots to swallow.

Giuseppe
06-24-2010, 11:07 PM
.......compared to the two shots that The Machine put on him a week ago just about now?

tee, hee.

Darrin
06-24-2010, 11:11 PM
He could've been a lot better.

I think it's how you define it. If you want a 20-10-5-2 player, see Kevin Garnett. If you want a player that can score all over the court, initiate the offense, play pick-and-pop on both ends with the best in the game, always draw single coverage because of his complete game on the block, finishing in transition and around the rim, get key, clutch baskets and value team basketball, then you can be a fan of Rasheed Wallace. His statistics are the only place I see him lacking, and even then it's still his scoring. He put in the time in the gym from year one to fifteen. He valued the game. He showed up when he was needed. He knew when he was needed in every situation. He knew the scouting report on every player every time he went out on the court from 2004-05 to 2009-10. He was one of the best to expose the weaknesses in Dwight Howard. He scored 30 points in the NBA Finals against the Los Angeles Lakers. I watched a lot of his career. I saw the majority of what was good about it. And I am telling you, he maximized his talent. He had no blind-side on the floor. He rarely was out of position. He was a damn good player.

Greg Oden
06-24-2010, 11:32 PM
I think it's how you define it.

I define it by Rasheed Wallace not being the player he could've been. You'd be hard pressed to find someone who disagrees.

freedom&justice
06-24-2010, 11:48 PM
Not at all surprised, it was time. And I'd rather see the guy retire than see him hang around until he's 40 or something and a shell of his former self. Classic Sheed type exit with the refs too. :toast

Dwight Howard must be relieved.

Veterinarian
06-24-2010, 11:51 PM
Not at all surprised, it was time. And I'd rather see the guy retire than see him hang around until he's 40 or something and a shell of his former self. Classic Sheed type exit with the refs too. :toast

Dwight Howard must be relieved.

If he could come into camp without gynecomastia he could probably still play.

me15lo
06-25-2010, 12:16 AM
one less asshole in the NBA

LnGrrrR
06-25-2010, 01:00 AM
I wouldn't call Sheed average. But possible greatest ever? Nah.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-25-2010, 01:51 AM
He showed up when he was needed. He knew when he was needed in every situation.


So his team needed him to get ejected against Cleveland in a must win game during the 2007 playoffs? Just accept it, Sheed wasted his talent and coulda been a dominant big, he chose not to be.

mingus
06-25-2010, 02:00 AM
Rasheed could have been the best player out of Duncan and KG if only he wanted to. for whatever reason he didn't want to fill his potential. he will go down as an underachiever, but also a guy who was a key contributer on a some great, great teams. basically, carved out a very respectable place for himself on talent alone, but left a lot more to be desired. depending on how you look at it, his career was either a success or a failure.

Giuseppe
06-25-2010, 06:48 AM
one less asshole in the NBA

Yep, yep.

pauls931
06-25-2010, 07:13 AM
Nice to see him retire before completely falling apart. Granted he already has some titles under his belt making the decision easier.

Giuseppe
06-25-2010, 07:30 AM
Nice to see him retire before completely falling apart.

Though he was dragged (still in his uni) from the ref's locker room at Staples and put on the team bus to LAX after the last NBA game of his life.

As Luva is won't to say: "nobody closes us", but, we closed that hump.

Darrin
06-25-2010, 07:51 AM
So his team needed him to get ejected against Cleveland in a must win game during the 2007 playoffs? Just accept it, Sheed wasted his talent and coulda been a dominant big, he chose not to be.

Sheed had a good game and the game was over by the time he was ejected. He was the best and most effective player that entire series. He was the Pistons offense in the first quarter of that game. In a series in the 70s in terms of points, he averaged 14.0 a game. He had two double-doubles in the first two games (both wins) for the Pistons. Chris Webber didn't show up until late, and he was out-matched by Ilguaskaus's size. Chauncey Billups was taken out of the series early, second-guessing himself the entire time, by Larry Hughes' early play on him. Boobie Gibson exploding for 36 points because the Pistons left him open early and got hot? There are a lot of reasons the Pistons lost that series. Rasheed Wallace's ejection was a curtain-call for a bunch of mistakes. You have to understand how he works. When he gets frustrated, especially if the whistle is going the way, he gets ticked off. He was up and cheering for his teammates on the bench during that game. Look a little deeper than the highlights or at least take the observations from someone who watched him in Detroit.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-25-2010, 09:14 AM
Sheed had a good game


If 11 points off 36% shooting and 2 rebounds is a good game then yeah, Sheed had a good game :tu

mavsluva
06-25-2010, 11:51 AM
I think he fears having to stay in shape in the offseason. The older you get, the harder it becomes!

Sportcamper
06-25-2010, 12:09 PM
Sheed has been one of my favorite “what if” players…

What if Rasheed Wallace came to LA…Blended in with all the fruits & nuts we have out here… And realized that he is quite normal by LA standards..What if Rasheed Wallace was coached by Jerry West, Phil Jackson, Magic & Tex at an early age…Learned to control his temper while keeping his identity… What if Rasheed played with Shaq, Kobe, Fox, Horry, and Fisher…The guy would have 5 rings & he would be headed to the hall of fame…

Boston Pancake
06-25-2010, 12:17 PM
fuck a duck!

Giuseppe
06-25-2010, 12:24 PM
Wallace always hated us. It was personal with him, like it was with the old Celtics. These new Celtics, they portended hate, but, they didn't have it ingrained in them no matter the efforts of Ainge to indoctrinate them such. Ainge though didn't have to educate Wallace, his hate for us was vibrant, a spiteful living thing.

He, I said, he was goin' to drag us all to the palm tree of woe and crucify us last Thursday night.

Then Fish & Artest said, "uh, uh, daddy-O, not on your sweet bippy." And then ended that fuck.

I watched it again last evening. One week annidada and all. I felt it proper. Katie-girl walked by, rolled her eyes and went about her business. The bitch.

I get so nervous when Mamba jumps up to pass the ball at the end not knowing where he's going to pass it and then finds Artest. Oh, it's so sweet I nearly cream my jeans anew each time.

Mike D
06-25-2010, 12:59 PM
First player ever to play 10+ seasons without committing a foul.

JamStone
06-25-2010, 01:17 PM
Great, great talent. And actually quite a high basketball IQ. Lol, ironic thing is that he'd still do bone-headed things despite knowing better, whether because of his temper or because of an ADHD moment of lapse in judgment. He knows the right play, but sometimes he would disregard it.

I can see why he was a frustrating player to many people. He had immense talent and never lived up to it. Never tried to reach his potential. Never tried to be the best player. He was content being a very good player, as opposed to being one of the greatest. But, I think that's part of what was so likable about him. He genuinely and sincerely didn't care about personal individual honors or awards, accolades or acknowledgment. And I truly think that was real. He cared about his teammates and coaches (for the most part, there are examples of him being an idiot of course), and he cared about winning. Not a perfect person. Not a perfect player. But he "kept it real" and he played with a passion and fire even when he didn't play well or did his best.

Now, the problem is that many people will remember the negatives. His technical fouls. His chasing down officials and challenging to fight them. His pot smoking. Comparing Stern and the NBA to slaveowners and other comments of the like. His fat gut every start of training camp. The 2008-09 season where he did stop caring. Those will stand out more to some.

Maybe he could have been an all time great player. And maybe he did waste his talent by not trying to be a much, much better player than he was. And maybe by not doing that, he hurt many of the teams he was on.

But I don't think those things concern him. And I think he played the game and left the game on his terms. I'm not going to hate on him for that.

Veterinarian
06-25-2010, 01:23 PM
Great, great talent. And actually quite a high basketball IQ. Lol, ironic thing is that he'd still do bone-headed things despite knowing better, whether because of his temper or because of an ADHD moment of lapse in judgment. He knows the right play, but sometimes he would disregard it.

I can see why he was a frustrating player to many people. He had immense talent and never lived up to it. Never tried to reach his potential. Never tried to be the best player. He was content being a very good player, as opposed to being one of the greatest. But, I think that's part of what was so likable about him. He genuinely and sincerely didn't care about personal individual honors or awards, accolades or acknowledgment. And I truly think that was real. He cared about his teammates and coaches (for the most part, there are examples of him being an idiot of course), and he cared about winning. Not a perfect person. Not a perfect player. But he "kept it real" and he played with a passion and fire even when he didn't play well or did his best.

Now, the problem is that many people will remember the negatives. His technical fouls. His chasing down officials and challenging to fight them. His pot smoking. Comparing Stern and the NBA to slaveowners and other comments of the like. His fat gut every start of training camp. The 2008-09 season where he did stop caring. Those will stand out more to some.

Maybe he could have been an all time great player. And maybe he did waste his talent by not trying to be a much, much better player than he was. And maybe by not doing that, he hurt many of the teams he was on.

But I don't think those things concern him. And I think he played the game and left the game on his terms. I'm not going to hate on him for that.

Fwiw I don't wanna live in a world where pot smoking is considered a negative, especially since it prevents certain forms of cancer (http://www.webmd.com/cancer/news/20040815/marijuana-stall-brain-tumor-growth, http://www.opednews.com/articles/life_a_paul_arm_080524_marijuana_slows_tumo.htm, http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729.html). Shit is a wonder drug tbh.

Greg Oden
06-25-2010, 03:09 PM
Sheed has been one of my favorite “what if” players…

What if Rasheed Wallace came to LA…Blended in with all the fruits & nuts we have out here… And realized that he is quite normal by LA standards..What if Rasheed Wallace was coached by Jerry West, Phil Jackson, Magic & Tex at an early age…Learned to control his temper while keeping his identity… What if Rasheed played with Shaq, Kobe, Fox, Horry, and Fisher…The guy would have 5 rings & he would be headed to the hall of fame…

A motivated Sheed teamed up with Shaq and Kobe is a scary thought for any other fans who would've thought their team had a chance.

scampers
06-25-2010, 03:47 PM
Sheed came in and helped us get a championship. Despite all of the disappointments since then, I will always remember him for what he did during that that '04 run. :toast

Giuseppe
06-25-2010, 06:38 PM
Sheed came in and helped us get a championship. Despite all of the disappointments since then, I will always remember him for what he did during that that '04 run. :toast

Sure, the half wit sobered up & straightened out for one gd series his entire career, unfortunately it was vs. my Lakers.

Fuck me.

Bob Lanier
06-25-2010, 10:09 PM
He will be missed.

Giuseppe
06-25-2010, 10:15 PM
Like a headache.

ezau
06-26-2010, 02:17 AM
When Sheed turned it on, there wasn't a PF in the league I'd take over him. His problem is that he so rarely turned it on.

Agreed

ezau
06-26-2010, 02:19 AM
I'm glad we retired the bitch.

http://wondersofpakistan.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/pakistan__jpeg_120800f1.jpg

PM5K
06-26-2010, 02:22 AM
I always remember this quote: "Both teams played hard", repeated about three dozen times, lol.

Talented basketball player, hilarious guy.

lefty
06-26-2010, 02:28 AM
Both Sheeds played hard

But seriously, I wish he didnt fall so much in love with the 3 ball, and used his fantastic post-up game more

A headcase, but one of my favorite players to watch; at least he wasnt fake, that was refreshing, great personality :tu

Giuseppe
06-26-2010, 03:56 AM
But seriously, I wish he didnt fall so much in love with the 3 ball, and used his fantastic post-up game more

A headcase, but one of my favorite players to watch; at least he wasnt fake, that was refreshing, great personality :tu

Yep, he never went down to the paint unless it was vs. my Lakers. Otherwise, he was content to fire from the arc like a 7ft poon-tanger.

& he was fake, he was a lazy shit this season and when they needed him most, when Perkins was hobbled, that lazyness came back to visit him, and his Celtics. Media won't indict him for it. They were too busy writin' stories about Artest that Artest refused to collaborate on.

Ipso facto:::when Wallace was flat on his f'in back, snarled up in dry heaves & cramps due to his lazyness Artest was huntin'.......huntin' Celtic, makin' certain that these, the first affective Kobe Stoppers in history had stopped absolutely nothing.

16-17

Finish it.

Chieflion
06-26-2010, 04:47 AM
I still wish Sheed had gone into the referees' room and had a "talk". Would have been the classic retirement.

Giuseppe
06-26-2010, 04:50 AM
They were never even in there, Chief,,,,they walk off the court and into immediate transport.

Use your f'in brain for something other than a hat rack.