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MannyIsGod

01-22-2011, 11:28 PM

Not surprising: shitty backline play once Omar Gonazales was taken out.

Beautiful finish though.

I agree

scott

01-22-2011, 11:28 PM

Why does Wynne even try? He almost gave up another one there. I think he'd do better just sitting in the corner with a thumb up his butt.

MannyIsGod

01-22-2011, 11:29 PM

Harkes is a terrible commentator. I'm growing so tired of him.

scott

01-22-2011, 11:29 PM

Gonzales was pretty weak in the first half. I know you wear a Galaxy scarf on your boner but c'mon man.

scott

01-22-2011, 11:30 PM

Brek has been a creator all game though. He'll never crack the midfield though with the A team though.

Spurologist

01-22-2011, 11:32 PM

Wondo is horrible. The MLS is his limit. Good thing he's coming out

Libri

01-22-2011, 11:32 PM

Agudelo in

scott

01-22-2011, 11:33 PM

If Juan scores today there may be no way to stop the hype machine

Spurologist

01-22-2011, 11:34 PM

Why does Wynne even try? He almost gave up another one there. I think he'd do better just sitting in the corner with a thumb up his butt.

that's totally on Bradley. I don't even think Wynee has ever played that position in a game before. Even when he's on the wing, his position sense is horrible. He's our defensive Robbie Findley

MannyIsGod

01-22-2011, 11:35 PM

I'd like to point out if this game mattered I'd be bitching up a storm about this ref.

MannyIsGod

01-22-2011, 11:36 PM

LOL Wynn is fucking terrible. Watching him try to play out there is making my night.

scott

01-22-2011, 11:37 PM

I'd like to point out if this game mattered I'd be bitching up a storm about this horrid play.

fify, again

Spurologist

01-22-2011, 11:38 PM

If we were playing Argentina or Brazil, Wynne would have given 3 goals all on his own. I blame Bob Bradley more than Wynee though. Fucking terrible decision

scott

01-22-2011, 11:39 PM

Its becoming very obvious to me that we will still need to rely on Dolo and Boca this summer for Gold Cup

scott

01-22-2011, 11:40 PM

Mixx with the worst attempt at a bicycle kick I've ever seen.

MannyIsGod

01-22-2011, 11:42 PM

Completely different game ever since Bunbury came in.

Libri

01-22-2011, 11:42 PM

When a USA player gets pressured, they easily lose possession or make a bad pass.

MannyIsGod

01-22-2011, 11:44 PM

How does Dax not get protected in the MLS expansion draft? WTF was Dallas thinking.

MannyIsGod

01-22-2011, 11:44 PM

Maybe thats why. :lmao

Libri

01-22-2011, 11:44 PM

uh oh

scott

01-22-2011, 11:45 PM

Was just about to say Dax has been another bright spot, until he tried to make a Ricardo Clark like blunder.

Spurologist

01-22-2011, 11:45 PM

Penalty!!!!!

MannyIsGod

01-22-2011, 11:45 PM

Let the Agudelo hype machine get underway.

Spurologist

01-22-2011, 11:46 PM

Maybe thats why. :lmao

:lmao

scott

01-22-2011, 11:46 PM

Weak. Shouldn't be a PK

MannyIsGod

01-22-2011, 11:47 PM

LOL the Dougie!!! Maurice Edu would be proud.

scott

01-22-2011, 11:47 PM

But we'll take it!

Could do with out the silly dance though. Hopefully Deuce will step in and teach these kids how to celebrate right.

MannyIsGod

01-22-2011, 11:48 PM

Dude - better get used to the Dougie. Its gonna be the official US Goal dance for this cycle.

scott

01-22-2011, 11:50 PM

I've seen enough of Bedoya. Hopefully Bob's project won't carry over into Gold Cup play. He's like a shitty version of Benny.

Spurologist

01-22-2011, 11:51 PM

First good play by Wynne there :tu

scott

01-22-2011, 11:52 PM

Our best play has come from the 4-4-2, which we are bound to not play with the A team.

scott

01-22-2011, 11:54 PM

That was a great example. Great diagonal run by (Teal or Juan, couldn't tell?) and Bedoya instead chooses to plow ahead into a tackle.

MannyIsGod

01-22-2011, 11:55 PM

:lmao @ that dive.

scott

01-22-2011, 11:55 PM

Bedoya off. Good riddance.

Spurologist

01-22-2011, 11:55 PM

one of the few times I agree with Harkes. If the dive is that blatant, it should be a red

Libri

01-22-2011, 11:55 PM

That Chilean dive was shameful.

scott

01-22-2011, 11:56 PM

Why does Harkes suddenly develop an accent when he says Diskarud?

MannyIsGod

01-22-2011, 11:56 PM

Bedoya was a big part of drawing that penalty. He had a nice pass right back to Agudelo. Definitely want to see him more before writing him off.

scott

01-22-2011, 11:57 PM

Juan!!! You had your chance to be a legend!!!

MannyIsGod

01-22-2011, 11:57 PM

Fuck man, why didn't we start Bunbury and Agudelo??!?!?!

scott

01-22-2011, 11:58 PM

Good to see a striker at least get it on target. Jozy would have sent that ball to San Jose.

MannyIsGod

01-22-2011, 11:59 PM

Jozy is all of two years older than Agudelo and you and half of the US fans have already written him off as a bust.

SMH.

scott

01-23-2011, 12:00 AM

I'm not given up on Jozy altogether, but he's not worthy of being our starting forward, especially as we move to the 4-2-3-1. He's only in the starting 11 because we have no one else.

Libri

01-23-2011, 12:01 AM

Another dive?

scott

01-23-2011, 12:03 AM

Only players from this squad who deserve a chance in camp with the A team: Dax, Brek, Juan, Teal, Omar (though Omar needs to play much better).

Ream's name didn't get called much today, so I guess that's a good thing.

MannyIsGod

01-23-2011, 12:03 AM

I'm not given up on Jozy altogether, but he's not worthy of being our starting forward, especially as we move to the 4-2-3-1. He's only in the starting 11 because we have no one else.

Pretty sure the fact that we have no one else makes him worthy. I'm not sold on the 4-2-3-1 at all after tonight. We'll see how it looks in the future.

MannyIsGod

01-23-2011, 12:04 AM

Ream forced some passes which is pretty uncharacteristic of him.

MannyIsGod

01-23-2011, 12:04 AM

Bunbury and Agudelo look damn good. Hope to see more of them in the future

Spurologist

01-23-2011, 12:06 AM

I'm not given up on Jozy altogether, but he's not worthy of being our starting forward, especially as we move to the 4-2-3-1. He's only in the starting 11 because we have no one else.

I should've forgotten about Rossi by now but I still dread his decision to play for Italy

scott

01-23-2011, 12:08 AM

Pretty sure the fact that we have no one else makes him worthy. I'm not sold on the 4-2-3-1 at all after tonight. We'll see how it looks in the future.

I'm especially sold on the 4-2-3-1 after tonight. Midfield remains our strongest position and Juan and Teal have a long way to go before they can pair up next to Jozy. They could be useful subs though.

We already have a dilemma with fitting our 6 mids who are capable of starting into 5 spots - if we go to a 4-4-2 we are just weakening our lineup, IMO.

I think Edu needs to get used to playing centerback.

scott

01-23-2011, 12:09 AM

I should've forgotten about Rossi by now but I still dread his decision to play for Italy

Ugh... especially as Jozy watches him score goals from the bench at Villarreal.

I hope Rossi gets HITA

MannyIsGod

01-23-2011, 12:09 AM

I really really didn't like Edu at CB but with Jr and Jones is going to be hard to play him anywhere but. You might be right.

MannyIsGod

01-23-2011, 12:10 AM

Fuck Rossi. So happy that fucker missed the WC.

scott

01-23-2011, 12:13 AM

I wonder if Jay DeMerit is going to be a go for the Gold Cup, I assume he will be. Right now I'd have to think Dolo-DeMerit-Gooch-Boca is our back line, unless Edu is playing CB.

I'm sure one of Edu, Jones, or Holden will be hurt anyway since they always are, so maybe there won't be the logjam in the midfield (hopefully it won't be Holden - paired with Lando and Deuce that's an awesome attacking mid).

Spurologist

01-23-2011, 12:21 AM

My preferred backline is: Boca-Ream-Goodson-Dolo

Spurologist

01-23-2011, 12:26 AM

There's no chance he'll go with this lineup but this is what I think Bradley should field at the gold cup. 4-4-2

Bunbury-Jozy
Donovan-Holden-Jones-Dempsey
Boca-Ream-Goodson-Dolo
Timmy

scott

01-23-2011, 11:56 AM

There's no chance he'll go with this lineup but this is what I think Bradley should field at the gold cup. 4-4-2

Bunbury-Jozy
Donovan-Holden-Jones-Dempsey
Boca-Ream-Goodson-Dolo
Timmy

I would hate to see Junior and Edu sitting on the bench in favor of MLS players

Spurologist

01-23-2011, 04:41 PM

I would hate to see Junior and Edu sitting on the bench in favor of MLS players

I would too but the midfield is so stacked at the moment that someone plying their trade in europe is bound to be disappointed

The Reckoning

01-23-2011, 05:45 PM

damn. thought this was the mutant ninja turtle thread.

(exits)

diego

01-25-2011, 10:17 AM

well, I'm disappointed by the draw, I thought Chile would give a better effort. The game was kind of late here and I'm in the middle of moving so I only saw highlights. I'm not sure if you guys consider this a positive result or if you think your team could have pulled it out.

It's funny, the only two people I talked to here who watched the whole thing said basically the opposite of what's been said in most of the thread: that Chile was lucky on the goal (horrible first touch, lucky/great reaction to fix it), that the penalty was correctly called, and the red card too. :lol

Libri

01-25-2011, 01:33 PM

Libri

01-25-2011, 01:36 PM

I would too but the midfield is so stacked at the moment that someone plying their trade in europe is bound to be disappointed

Michael Bradley won't be disappointed.

ClingingMars

01-26-2011, 08:30 PM

Dax kicked ass in that Chile game, hope he plays that well for UTD

MannyIsGod

01-28-2011, 01:33 PM

The USSF needs to make arrangements to play that Egypt game elsewhere. I do not want our team going to Cairo in less that 2 weeks.

MannyIsGod

01-29-2011, 11:07 AM

Nice Junior headed to Aston Villa.

scott

01-29-2011, 11:03 PM

Junior is on his way to Aston Villa on loan for the rest of the season. Should be good for him, I think he can do well in EPL

Libri

01-31-2011, 04:22 PM

The USSF needs to make arrangements to play that Egypt game elsewhere. I do not want our team going to Cairo in less that 2 weeks.

The US game against Egypt has been canceled.

http://www.ussoccer.com/News/Mens-National-Team/2011/01/US-MNT-Match-against-Egypt-Canceled.aspx

Spurologist

01-31-2011, 04:36 PM

Junior is on his way to Aston Villa on loan for the rest of the season. Should be good for him, I think he can do well in EPL

:tu

His playing style totally suits the EPL. I'd be surprised if he didn't do well. I hope he gets some playing time with Makoun and Petrov manning virtually the same position

scott

01-31-2011, 04:57 PM

Bradley has had an impressive climb up that ladder. MLS at age 16, Eredivisie at 18, Bundesliga at 21, now EPL at 23.

From what I understand (and if I remember correctly), his 21 goals in 07-08 when he was with Heerenveen is a record for most goals by an American for a European 1st division club.

Those saying he only gets playing time on the USMNT because of his daddy clearly don't know his game.

scott

01-31-2011, 05:00 PM

Now news is that Jozy has been loaned to Levante for the rest of the season. Hopefully he can get some games under his belt there and learn how to get a strike on goal.

MannyIsGod

01-31-2011, 05:03 PM

That really sucks a bout the Egypt game. I was hoping they could find a new venue.

:(

Soccer >>>> Freedom

scott

01-31-2011, 06:25 PM

Apparently I spoke too soon and Jozy is actually moving to Turkey's Bursaspor.

MannyIsGod

02-01-2011, 06:39 PM

Davies coming to the MLS with DC United. Interesting if it happens.

robino2001

03-16-2011, 09:34 AM

Didn't see a thread discussing this anywhere so I'll throw it here. Gold Cup tickets went on sale today to the general public... anyone buy/planning on buying any? We grabbed tickets in Houston for the semis.

MannyIsGod

03-18-2011, 10:54 AM

U.S. ROSTER BY POSITION
GOALKEEPERS (3): Marcus Hahnemann (Wolverhampton Wanderers), Tim Howard (Everton), David Yelldell (MSV Duisburg)
DEFENDERS (9): Carlos Bocanegra (Saint-Etienne), Jonathan Bornstein (UANL Tigres), Timothy Chandler (FC Nürnberg), Steve Cherundolo (Hannover 96), Jay DeMerit (Vancouver Whitecaps), Oguchi Onyewu (FC Twente), Tim Ream (New York Red Bulls), Jonathan Spector (West Ham United), Zak Whitbread (Norwich City)
MIDFIELDERS (9): Michael Bradley (Aston Villa), Clint Dempsey (Fulham), Mikkel Diskeruud (Stabaek), Landon Donovan (Los Angeles Galaxy), Maurice Edu (Rangers), Benny Feilhaber (AGF Aarhus), Stuart Holden (Bolton Wanderers), Jermaine Jones (Blackburn Rovers), Sacha Kljestan (Anderlecht)
FORWARDS (3): Juan Agudelo (New York Red Bulls), Jozy Altidore (Bursaspor), Edson Buddle (FC Ingolstadt)

Roster for upcoming games.

MannyIsGod

03-21-2011, 09:49 AM

Holden out for 6 months. That really sucks.

MannyIsGod

03-24-2011, 02:18 PM

New red kits are aweeeeeeeeeeeeeeesome.

MannyIsGod

03-24-2011, 02:19 PM

http://shinguardian.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/uskit.png

MannyIsGod

03-29-2011, 01:59 PM

Pretty excited about the game tonight. Hope to see Juan Agudelo get his first start.

scott

03-29-2011, 02:06 PM

I really want that red kit with Stu's number on the back, but not confident he can stay healthy to live up to potential. Might need to go for the old #10

MannyIsGod

03-29-2011, 02:54 PM

I'd like an Agudelo one but I'm afraid of him being the next Adu. A Bunbury one would be sweet but only if spelled boonbooree.

iwqlziAnqSg

Dinamita

03-29-2011, 07:26 PM

LOL losing to a team mexico just spanked 3-1 a couple of days ago

MannyIsGod

03-29-2011, 07:54 PM

Disappointing first half.

Spurologist

03-29-2011, 08:44 PM

Donovan has been fucking terrible in the 2nd half

MannyIsGod

03-29-2011, 09:37 PM

Donovan was sooooooo bad in all aspects. Wonder where his head was. Ream was great, so was Chandler. Lichaj was good in his short time. Agudelo was great whenever they actually got him the ball.

Libri

03-29-2011, 10:55 PM

Almost fell asleep in the first half.

The_Worlds_finest

03-30-2011, 12:36 PM

Got to see the highlights of the Para game. Heart BREAKING! So many miss goals! Either way we have a good crop of youngsters USA SOCCER IS A LIVE AND WELL! Bring on the GOLD CUP!!1

MannyIsGod

03-30-2011, 03:37 PM

Got to see the highlights of the Para game. Heart BREAKING! So many miss goals! Either way we have a good crop of youngsters USA SOCCER IS A LIVE AND WELL! Bring on the GOLD CUP!!1

Man you must have watched another game. I saw maybe 3 shots on goal the entire match. Not many chances.

MannyIsGod

03-30-2011, 03:51 PM

The depth chart as I see it going into the Gold Cup.

Striker

1a. Juan Agudelo
1b. Jozy
3. Edson Buddle
4. Teal Bunbury
5. Chris Wondoloski

2103283028230823028320. Robbie Findley

AMF

1. Clint Dempsy
2. Landon Donovan - I love Landon but Dempsy is playing better right now
3. Diskerud
4. Kletsjan
5. Bedoya
MF

This is hard because all three of these guys played well at times and bad at others lately. I hope MB90 gets playing time soon.

1a. Bradley
1b. Jones
1c. Edu
4. Dax McCarty

Gets really tough after this. I guess you can consider players like Torres and Convey at the edge of the mix. Brek Shea too, maybe. Maybe even Beasley. Holden being out really sucks ass.

CD

1. Ream - fuck anyone who thinks different. So tired of seeing our backs just boot the ball right away. Ream is the only one who doesn't do this. Dude MUST be starting during the gold cup.

2. Bocanegra
3. Gooch
4. Demerrit
5. Gonzales

I really want to put Gonzales above Demerrit but here's to hoping Jay gets some form back by actually playing in the MLS as opposed to sitting on his ass.

RB/LB

1. Cherundulo
2. Chandler - love this kid. LOVE LOVE LOVE
3. Lichaj
4. Bornstien.
24902840284028490284902810498409. Spector - I know this fucker is going to be on the roster and it pisses me off.

MannyIsGod

03-30-2011, 03:52 PM

I might list Buddle above Jozy right now. Jozy has more overall skill but Buddle is the better finisher by far.

MannyIsGod

03-30-2011, 03:54 PM

Pretty funny how much we've come in 9 months at the striker position though. Agudelo and Bunburry are great prospects for the future there. Our midfield depth is solid and now with Ream, Lichaj and Chandler in the mix in the back that is looking fairly nice as well.

The_Worlds_finest

03-30-2011, 10:24 PM

Ok missed goal I ment bad touchs. There was the one LD had at the side. There was a cross that went over the top bar. That one shot CD took was interesting.

Gold Cup is going to be an outstanding test for the youngsters.

Vici

03-30-2011, 10:56 PM

Man you must have watched another game. I saw maybe 3 shots on goal the entire match. Not many chances.

I think he means missed opportunities. We had way more chances and blew it with awful passing and awful shots.

robino2001

03-31-2011, 08:52 AM

Beasley needs to be off the MNT for good (and I think he is)... Chandler seems to have landed himself a long term position with 2 very solid showings.

Sense

03-31-2011, 10:44 AM

looks like beating up on Mexico is going to be hard this year..

The_Worlds_finest

03-31-2011, 01:45 PM

looks like beating up on Mexico is going to be hard this year..

Doubt It.

Why does mexico play the majority of its friendlies in the USA? Is your country good for anything these days?

Dinamita

03-31-2011, 04:22 PM

Mexico = Venezuela > Paraguay > Argentina = USA

Sense

04-01-2011, 02:12 PM

Doubt It.

Why does mexico play the majority of its friendlies in the USA? Is your country good for anything these days?

:lol

you mad bra?

MannyIsGod

04-01-2011, 04:50 PM

Should be a good Gold Cup. I would make Mexico the favorites, but only slightly so. You may have Chicarito playing now, but we still have Howard. Hopefully by summer more of our team is in form.

Sense

04-02-2011, 01:27 AM

Should be a good Gold Cup. I would make Mexico the favorites, but only slightly so. You may have Chicarito playing now, but we still have Howard. Hopefully by summer more of our team is in form.

lol having Howard isn't going to stop Chicharito... just ask the other EPL goalkeepers... and that's what makes Mexico even tougher, that while you're worried about Chicharito, others will step up.

They all want what he has...

So I wouldn't make them slight favorites, they should be pretty much the only favorite since most of the team is pretty much played together for a while now.. the US team however, that one has been changing way too often.. and it hasn't looked pretty.

The_Worlds_finest

04-02-2011, 05:08 AM

why would i be mad that your sorry country cant even host its own games?

Sense

04-03-2011, 12:48 AM

why would i be mad that your sorry country cant even host its own games?

lol dude sometimes it's just sad how you try to go about "talking shit"...

You could've tried harder...

MannyIsGod

04-04-2011, 08:24 PM

Japan pulled out of Copa America. If the USMNT would send an A team we could probably get an invite. The MLS will probably say FU to that though.

Sense

04-04-2011, 08:48 PM

The USMNT's A team is in the MLS?

MannyIsGod

04-06-2011, 08:20 AM

A good portion of it is. You can knock the MLS but its far from a shit league everyone makes it out to be and its no surprise that the surge of good young US prospects has to do with it.

Off the top of my head players that might be called up from the MLS are:

Ream
Gonzales
Agudelo
Bunbury
Dax McCarty
Brek Shea

And to be honest, those are the players who would benefit most from going to the Copa America.

Libri

04-06-2011, 09:18 AM

Japan pulled out of Copa America. If the USMNT would send an A team we could probably get an invite. The MLS will probably say FU to that though.

Spain got the invitation but hasn't decided yet.

MannyIsGod

04-06-2011, 12:57 PM

Spain got the invitation but hasn't decided yet.

Yeah I'm sure they didn't even bother with it. (The US) MLS won't budge on the issue.

Phenomanul

04-07-2011, 08:32 AM

Yeah I'm sure they didn't even bother with it. (The US) MLS won't budge on the issue.

Which is completely preposterous and perplexing... The Copa America tournament could only benefit US Soccer... if at the very least to help identify prospects that can step it up when the competition/stakes get higher and when the opposing footballing style (typical of international matches) changes from game to game...

All the U.S. would need is a core of at least 4-6 "A-Teamers" to compete... if Landon, Dempsey, Bocanegra and Howard all said yes, it wouldn't matter who else accompanied them to South America... 'that team' would be in most games and compete...

MannyIsGod

04-07-2011, 08:39 AM

Which is completely preposterous and perplexing... The Copa America tournament could only benefit US Soccer... if at the very least to help identify prospects that can step it up when the competition/stakes get higher and when the opposing footballing style (typical of international matches) changes from game to game...

All the U.S. would need is a core of at least 4-6 "A-Teamers" to compete... if Landon, Dempsey, Bocanegra and Howard all said yes, it wouldn't matter who else accompanied them to South America... 'that team' would be in most games and compete...

For whatever reason, I didn't even include Landon in my MLS group above. Total brain fart. The problem is that clubs don't want lose their players for events outside of CONCACAF if they don't have to. And they don't have to.

Why is the LA Galaxy going to say ok to Landon going off in playing in games that aren't required when it already loses him in the middle of the season for the Gold Cup and World Cup along with friendly dates? It just doesn't make any sense for them. The MLS and US Soccer are not synonymous and the MLS is at a point (and has been for some time) when its not going to get rolled over.

IIRC, this was a large issue of contention the first time US Soccer courted Klinsman to coach the team. The MLS isn't going to release players for tournaments its not required to.

Phenomanul

04-07-2011, 08:54 AM

For whatever reason, I didn't even include Landon in my MLS group above. Total brain fart. The problem is that clubs don't want lose their players for events outside of CONCACAF if they don't have to. And they don't have to.

Why is the LA Galaxy going to say ok to Landon going off in playing in games that aren't required when it already loses him in the middle of the season for the Gold Cup and World Cup along with friendly dates? It just doesn't make any sense for them. The MLS and US Soccer are not synonymous and the MLS is at a point (and has been for some time) when its not going to get rolled over.

IIRC, this was a large issue of contention the first time US Soccer courted Klinsman to coach the team. The MLS isn't going to release players for tournaments its not required to.

While the whole issue is understandable from the clubs' perspective... U.S. Soccer Federation goals should take precedence over MLS ones (obviously the issue gets far more complicated and murky on the business side of things -- kind of like NBA vs. FIBA)...

Were this to happen in other footballing nations, it is the players who would demand to be allowed to play for their National Team.... as it is a matter of National Pride...

Furthermore, given the name of the tournament, it would behoove CONCACAF to send its best representatives to the Copa America tournament. Except they, much like the U.S. Soccer Federation, don't have the authority to impose or enforce 'preferred player' participation on MLS clubs (despite their presiding jurisdiction as delegated by FIFA)...

Sad really (but understandable).

IronMaxipad

04-08-2011, 11:46 AM

USMNT U-20s fail to qualify for U-20 World Cup, fall 2-1 to Guatemala

http://www.examiner.com/soccer-in-national/usmnt-u-20s-fail-to-qualify-for-u20-world-cup-fall-2-1-to-guatemala

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Sense

04-08-2011, 12:18 PM

MannyIsGod

04-08-2011, 06:26 PM

It is bright. That was the result of poor coaching and inexperienced players but it really doesn't mean all that much in development. This is the first US team at this age level with that level of talent. Those aren't amateur players but almost everyone on that team has a pro club they are with and while Rowe doesn't he's a huge prospect and will go #1 in the MLS super draft or will sign in Europe as soon as he's done with college.

It does suck to lose, but onlya fool would write off the level of talent on that team over a single game to a team playing in front of a home crowd. No big deal in the long run.

MannyIsGod

04-08-2011, 06:26 PM

Oh, and that team was stacked even with several better players who didn't go. Juan Agudelo could be on our U20 team.

scott

04-10-2011, 08:09 PM

Buddle won't even get called up for Gold Cup. Your boyfriends days are done, Manny.

MannyIsGod

04-10-2011, 08:48 PM

Buddle won't even get called up for Gold Cup. Your boyfriends days are done, Manny.

I'm not too sure about that. I have him in the top four strikers. The only other player I'd put above him is perhaps Herculez Gomez. Its possible they only bring 3, but they did take four to the World Cup so I expect them to bring four here.

The only 3 I see in consideration for that fourth spot are Davies, Gomez, and Buddle. I obviously hope Davies has regained enough form by the summer but not expecting it.

scott

04-11-2011, 01:57 PM

MannyIsGod

04-12-2011, 08:27 AM

Bornstien is better than Spector. Watch the 2 friendlies again and watch how often Spector pushed up. Pretty much never. Its not like he's a great defender, he's got to make runs and push up from the back.

I just think Benny is behind those I listed. I could see him above Dax McCarty though. Not before any of the attacking mids I listed, though.

Interesting that this week Dallas FC played Break Shea at LB. Thats a good situation to watch for the USMNT. I think Break Shea is a good player but not for the nats at mid. Too crowded. If he can find time at LB and actually do well (he did well Saturday) then he'll have an easy in.

scott

04-12-2011, 10:53 AM

1) You are crazy if you think Borstein is better than anyone.
2) You are crazy if you think Benny is behind the likes of Dax and Bedoya

LB will continue to be our biggest weak link. Is Brek a natural left footer? That would help...

MannyIsGod

04-12-2011, 11:24 AM

Yeah he's a natural left footer. Did you know Spector is playing mostly at MF for his club?

scott

04-12-2011, 02:46 PM

I'm not saying Spector is a great fit in the back for us. But he's 10000x better than Bornstein. Borstein should start an intermural team with Ricardo Clark, Robbie Findley and Edson Buddle as people who should never see another cap.

MannyIsGod

04-15-2011, 05:25 PM

Your both Benny just came back to the MLS.

MannyIsGod

04-21-2011, 10:55 PM

Nice. Lets just add to the hype.

yCI9IOCZ3zs

Spurologist

04-22-2011, 03:17 PM

Nice. Lets just add to the hype.

yCI9IOCZ3zs

saw that live last night....it was a sick goal.

This kid just needs to stay humble

scott

04-22-2011, 03:24 PM

scott

04-22-2011, 03:25 PM

Your both Benny just came back to the MLS.

Really really really wished Houston could have pulled off the trade for Benny but just couldn't make it happen. I think he'll be one of MLS's best by season end.

MannyIsGod

04-22-2011, 09:19 PM

The 4-5-1 didn't work with Jozy up top, but I wonder if it could with Juan up there. With Holden out it isn't as pressing a concern (though we still have to leave one of MB, JJ and Edu on the bench). I don't want to be experimenting too much in the Gold Cup (or against Spain for that matter, that could get really embarassing, really fast) - but going into WC Qualifying with Holden fit I hope Bob looks at that formation again.

In any event, we still need another striker.

Man, I think it could but honestly its the mids that actually play poor in that formation. They are never able to build the ball forward to Jozy. Jozy played it poorly in the first of the last two friendlies by not holding up a lot but for the most part thats been a knock on the mids as well for having bad possession.

They need to try again though.

I'm trying not to get too high on Juan but dude just has something the other USMNT Strikers don't. Bunbury is no scrub either. He's had a sick goal this season so far too.

Libri

05-02-2011, 06:09 PM

Dempsey makes Fulham history

Clint Dempsey entered the record books last week as he became the club’s top scorer in the Premier League era.

http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/1614/americans-abroad/2011/05/01/2467257/americans-in-the-uk-dempsey-makes-fulham-history

MannyIsGod

05-12-2011, 06:01 PM

Bradley's going to go scout Davies this weekend. I guess he's getting looked at for the Gold Cup roster after all.

Also the June 4 game against Spain might set records for attendance for US Soccer match. Pretty cool shit.

symple19

05-12-2011, 07:16 PM

scott

05-13-2011, 08:36 AM

Manny, are you aware of how close Robbie Findley is to being an EPL player next season? Poor, pooer EPL.

MannyIsGod

05-13-2011, 10:42 AM

They're close to promotion? Oh fuck. I want to go with Robbie Findley to Vegas. Fucker has the best luck ever.

Sense

05-13-2011, 02:52 PM

I chuckle every time I read beating up on Mexico ... :)

MannyIsGod

05-13-2011, 04:10 PM

I chuckle every time I read beating up on Mexico ... :)

I chuckle when I look at the Gold Cup roster for Mexico and I realize why I can't find Vela. :)

Sense

05-13-2011, 06:27 PM

I chuckle when I look at the Gold Cup roster for Mexico and I realize why I can't find Vela. :)

Oh we don't need Vela my friend... All we need is Chicharito... that's more than enough for the US defense haha

MannyIsGod

05-13-2011, 06:53 PM

Javier is going to be the best forward in the cup but he's not going to have the manu mids to feed him the ball. Let's not pretend like dempsy isn't kicking ass in the epl on a worse team either. Us gots this!

MannyIsGod

05-23-2011, 11:29 AM

US Roster is going to be named today. I think this is what it will look like

GK Howard Guzan Hahnemann
DEF Ream, Gooch, Boca, Lichaj, Demerrit, Chandler, Cherundolo, Bornstein, Spector
MF Donovan, Dempsy, Bradley, Jones, Edu, Bedoya, Kletsjan, Diskerud.
FW Agudelo, Altidore, Bunburry, Gomez.

Maybe he goes with 3 Forwards and brings Benny.

The_Worlds_finest

05-23-2011, 12:23 PM

What no Davies? I want to see agudelo score more like that sick goal. Fuck Mexico

MannyIsGod

05-23-2011, 12:25 PM

Davies is hurt. I doubt he gets the call up.

MannyIsGod

05-23-2011, 12:36 PM

H2t3aqt1ucc

Great assist for Bedoya (plus a goal).

MannyIsGod

05-23-2011, 02:02 PM

I have serious problems with this roster

Spurstro

05-23-2011, 02:06 PM

Adu, Rogers, Wondolowski

WOW

MannyIsGod

05-23-2011, 02:09 PM

No Bedoya who's been on fire. No Chandler who is as dynamic a back as we have. Fucking Wondoloski? Really? ROBBIE ROGERS!?!?!??

I'm not even that mad about the Adu selection. He's actually been playing extremely well (albeit in a shitty league) but I'm disgusted with Bedoya being left off.

Spurstro

05-23-2011, 02:10 PM

No Timmy Chandler, Teal Bunbury or Alejandro Bedoya.

The only thing I could think of is Bob felt they weren't going to get much playing time anyways, so he decided to leave them with their clubs or to get rest?

NO ONE predicted this.

MannyIsGod

05-23-2011, 02:10 PM

Oh and don't get me started on Bunbury. As good as Juan Agedelo has looked, Bunbury is just as good.

MannyIsGod

05-23-2011, 02:14 PM

How disgusting would it be if Chandler switched to Germany?

Spurstro

05-23-2011, 02:15 PM

Oh and don't get me started on Bunbury. As good as Juan Agedelo has looked, Bunbury is just as good.

yep....went to Houston for the Dynamo game on Saturday, and Agedulo did nothing....his first touch was terrible.

Hopefully, he continues scoring for the USMNT team though

Spurstro

05-23-2011, 02:17 PM

How disgusting would it be if Chandler switched to Germany?

I can't believe Bob didn't invite him....Chandler must have just declined the offer.

Spurstro

05-23-2011, 02:22 PM

Bradley on Chandler: "He told us physically and mentally this season has been a long one ... Time wasn't right for this Gold Cup."

MannyIsGod

05-23-2011, 02:36 PM

Here's the roster, btw.

1 Howard, Tim GK 6-3 210 03/06/79 North Brunswick, N.J. Everton (England) 58/0
2 Spector, Jonathan D 6-0 180 03/01/86 Arlington Heights, Ill. West Ham United (England) 30/0
3 Bocanegra, Carlos D 6-0 170 05/25/79 Alta Loma, Calif. Saint-Étienne (France) 87/12
4 Bradley, Michael M 6-2 175 07/31/87 Manhattan Beach, Calif. Aston Villa (England) 52/8
5 Onyewu, Oguchi D 6-4 210 05/13/82 Olney, Md. FC Twente (Netherlands) 59/6
6 Cherundolo, Steve D 5-6 145 02/19/79 San Diego, Calif. Hannover 96 (Germany) 65/2
7 Edu, Maurice M 6-0 170 04/18/86 Fontana, Calif. Rangers (Scotland) 21/1
8 Dempsey, Clint F 6-1 170 03/09/83 Nacogdoches, Texas Fulham (England) 70/19
9 Agudelo, Juan F 6-0 180 11/23/92 Barnegat, N.J. New York Red Bulls 4/2
10 Donovan, Landon M 5-8 160 03/04/82 Redlands, Calif. Los Angeles Galaxy 130/45
11 Wondolowski, Chris F 6-0 165 01/28/83 Danville, Calif. San Jose Earthquakes 1/0
12 Bornstein, Jonathan D 5-9 145 11/07/84 Los Alamitos, Calif. UANL Tigres (Mexico) 37/2
13 Jones, Jermaine M 6-1 170 11/03/81 Chicago, Ill. Blackburn Rovers (England) 4/0
14 Lichaj, Eric D 5-11 175 11/17/88 Downers Grove, Ill. Leeds (England) 3/0
15 Ream, Tim D 6-1 165 10/05/87 St. Louis, Mo. New York Red Bulls 3/0
16 Kljestan, Sacha M 6-1 170 09/09/85 Huntington Beach, Calif. Anderlecht (Belgium) 26/4
17 Altidore, Jozy F 6-1 175 11/06/89 Boca Raton, Fla. Bursaspor (Turkey) 34/10
18 Rimando, Nick GK 5-11 181 06/17/79 Montclair, Calif. Real Salt Lake 4/0
19 Rogers, Robbie M 5-10 180 05/12/87 Huntington Beach, Calif. Columbus Crew 10/1
20 Adu, Freddy M 5-8 140 06/02/89 Potomac, Md. Rizespor (Turkey) 15/2
21 Goodson, Clarence D 6-4 180 05/17/82 Alexandria, Va. Brondby (Denmark) 8/2
22 Feilhaber, Benny M 5-9 150 01/19/85 Irvine, Calif. New England Revolution 38/2
23 Hahnemann, Marcus GK 6-3 220 06/15/72 Seattle, Wash. Wolverhampton Wanderers (England) 8/0

Libri

05-23-2011, 05:17 PM

Adu is back. He must be getting consistent playing time.

scott

05-29-2011, 08:03 PM

Benny hurt, Bedoya called up in his place.

MannyIsGod

05-29-2011, 08:59 PM

Should have been called up to begin with. He's playing really really well.

scott

05-30-2011, 05:53 PM

Alright Manny (or anyone else), care to take any guesses at Starting XI's and who gets left of the 18) before any real news out of training camp comes out?

Not on 18: Rimando, Rogers, Wando, Bornstein (god I hope) and my shocker pick Onyewu

Starting XI

----------------Howard----------------
---Boca---Ream---Goodson---Dolo--
---Lando---Jones--Bradley---Deuce--
------------Jozy------Agudelo---------

If Jozy continues to struggle I think we'll see Bob go to a 4-2-3-1 with Dempsey playing further forward rather than a traditional 4-4-2 with Deuce up top because if leaves us a little weak on the flank, though I think Bedoya might be able to come in on the wing. For all our depth at MF it seems like it's all bunch up in central mids. Holden had the kind of versatility to go wide, but who else? Sasha? Benny could have, though I don't know how to form he's been. Spector maybe? Yikes.

Hope we get to see good action for Lichaj, another promising fullback.

ElNono

05-30-2011, 09:59 PM

Donovan on Messi, from the UCL Fox pre-game show:

http://multimedia.foxsports.com/m/video/40637179/landon-donovan-talks-messi.htm?r_src=ramp

Didn't know if I should post it here, but what the heck...

MannyIsGod

05-31-2011, 01:26 AM

MannyIsGod

05-31-2011, 01:30 AM

I think your 11 is perfect except I think he starts Gooch next to Ream. I also think there's a chance of seeing the 4-3-2-1 with Clint up front but I really wonder who the fifth mid would be. I would assume Jones Edu Bradley with Landon up front and I would love to see Bedoya up front too but how the fuck can he possibly go from not on the roster to starting. I would rather see Dempsy up front with Landon and Agudelo as the main forward.

I do think the 442 with Jozy and Juan up front will be the best lineup for this team.

I would not be shocked to see Spector play more mid than defender this cup.

MannyIsGod

05-31-2011, 01:32 AM

Actually I guess if he slides Clint up front as the lone forward he will go with Adu or Rogers. I'm interested to see if Adu can deliver. I know Rogers can't.

scott

06-01-2011, 08:26 AM

Still need your gameday 18, and if MLS players aren't going to on that 18, Bob will let them go back to their clubs.

scott

06-01-2011, 08:29 AM

My only concern with Juan starting up top is that he's played so well in the reserve role and there is no telling if he is ready to consistently start. In that respect, I'm really surprised Hercules didn't get a call-up especially considering the tear he has been on. But he's 30 and unlikely to be on the next WC squad and I think Bob used this chance to get some guys into camp who might contribute in Brazil so they can begin to experience what camp is like.

Told you Buddle has seen his last cap :)

MannyIsGod

06-01-2011, 11:33 PM

So the 18.

Tim Howard and Hahnemann are locks. Landon, Dempsy, Edu, Jones, and Bradley are locks at mid. Boca, Ream, Goodson, Dolo seem to be the starters on the back line so they are obviously in. I think he has to bring all 3 forwards because there are only 3, so that leaves four spots up for grabs. I'd be shocked if he left Gooch off. Spector seems to be likely to be selected since he has been playing a lot of mid field too and that gives you some flexibility.

Now, after this I have a really hard figuring out who he'll pick. I hope like hell he doesn't take Rogers. I think Lichaj should be selected. Adu is tough but I think he will be selected. So basically I think Bedoya, Bornstien, Kletsjan, Rimando and Rogers are out.

However, I could see an Adu - Bedoya Flip and Bornstien -Lichaj flip. Actually, I think Bornstien and Lichaj are each even money to make it but I think he only takes one or the other.

However, if he does plan on playing Duece up front more then perhaps he leaves off Wondoloski.

scott

06-04-2011, 01:13 PM

Well we are going to see who else we have on the wing. Lando out today vs. Spain with illness, Boca being held to rest for Tuesday. Adu and Bornstein not on the gameday roster.

scott

06-04-2011, 01:21 PM

Bwahaha, from the FakeBobBradley twitter account:

LB: Boca excused from match b/c the ribs are real good at Foxboro. Bornstein excused to attend 1-day Gareth Bale Leftback for Dummies Class.

scott

06-04-2011, 02:04 PM

Also, thinking/hoping we see the 4-2-3-1 today at some point with Spector as the attacking CM

scott

06-04-2011, 02:30 PM

Well I guess not... here is the starting XI. Looks like a squad that can maybe get up to 15% possession against Spain...

Howard; Spector, Onyewu, Ream, Lichaj; Kljestan, Jones, Edu, Rogers; Agudelo, Altidore

MannyIsGod

06-04-2011, 02:35 PM

Wow wtf is up with this lineup. So odd.

scott

06-04-2011, 02:44 PM

This lineup is fully capable of hitting 15% possession if we are focused. HAHAHAHA

MannyIsGod

06-04-2011, 02:46 PM

I can only guess that he's giving people a shot to make the 18. We'll probably see a Bedoya and Wondo sub for sure.

I do think its really shitty to give the amount of people who have bought tickets to this game such a bad lineup, though.

scott

06-04-2011, 02:51 PM

On the bench: Hahnemann, Cherundolo, Goodson, Dempsey, Bradley, Bedoya and Wondolowski

I think we'll see Howard go the 90 and all 6 field players will sub in

scott

06-04-2011, 02:52 PM

Actually excited to see Lichaj at LB and the Edu-Jones pairing. I won't be super critical of Jozy today since he'll never get near the ball

MannyIsGod

06-04-2011, 03:04 PM

Aguedelo's going to have to be really good if the US is going to score today.

symple19

06-04-2011, 03:53 PM

i'll be happy if the US loses this game by less than 2 goals

MannyIsGod

06-04-2011, 04:02 PM

I don't care about win or loss. I want to see something other than long hopeful balls.

MannyIsGod

06-04-2011, 04:27 PM

Definitely do not want to see Gooch starting. Really missing Jay Demerrit right now.

Sense

06-04-2011, 10:21 PM

lol 4-0?!

symple19

06-05-2011, 07:56 AM

lol 4-0?!

pretty much

lol USMNT circa 90'

scott

06-05-2011, 10:00 AM

----------------Howard----------------
---Boca---Ream---Goodson---Dolo--
---Lando---Jones--Bradley---Deuce--
------------Jozy------Agudelo---------

And I think this is still our best lineup, the exception could be to move Boca inside for Ream, who was poor against Spain, and have Lichaj start at RB and then start Edu for Jones (though neither really showed quality. Spector might even be a better option as an attacking mid. Not having Holden is a huge loss).

scott

06-05-2011, 10:00 AM

Also, WTF isn't Torres on this team? Ugh.

scott

06-05-2011, 12:51 PM

Lots of talk for this lineup against Canada, and I'd love to see it:

----------------Howard--------------
---Dolo---Boca---Goodson---Lichaj---
---Lando---Jones--Bradley---Spector--
--------Deuce-------Jozy/Wando-----

Juan off the bench.

I think that would be quite swell actually

MannyIsGod

06-05-2011, 08:18 PM

Also, WTF isn't Torres on this team? Ugh.

Because Torres is not nearly as good as the mids we have. He's not as good as Edu or Jones. We get all up in arms over 1 game and start questioning who should play but Edu and Jones are both still good mids. Bradley is obviously the best.

MannyIsGod

06-05-2011, 08:20 PM

scott

06-05-2011, 10:53 PM

Because Torres is not nearly as good as the mids we have. He's not as good as Edu or Jones. We get all up in arms over 1 game and start questioning who should play but Edu and Jones are both still good mids. Bradley is obviously the best.

Torres not as good as Rogers or Sasha? Get yo head checked foo

Dinamita

06-06-2011, 11:07 AM

The United States Is Not Catching Up To Mexico, The World

For years, there has been a myth perpetuated across the world that the United States men's national soccer team is steadily improving. Instead, they're stagnating, which might as well be a step backwards.

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Jun 6, 2011 - The United States men's national team is not any better than it was ten years ago, relative to the rest of the world. Eventually, if that stagnation continues, it will cause their standing in world football to decrease significantly.

Before presenting any kind of an argument in this piece, I feel the need to clarify a few things. No, I am not writing this piece because I dislike the United States men's national team or United States soccer. I am a big fan of U.S. soccer on all levels, meaning the men's and women's senior and youth teams.

No, I am not writing this piece to piss people off. I actually feel like most football (or soccer, if you prefer) fans are fairly reasonable people who are willing to change their mind when presented with reasonable evidence. The myth that the United States men's national team is catching up to the rest of the world is one that has been perpetuated for quite some time, and I believe it to be false.

No, I am not a fan of any Mexican national team. I am simply an American soccer fan who happens to not hate the Mexican national team and Mexican football in general. I find it to be enjoyable to watch, but I watch both the league and the national team objectively. I don't ever care if the national team wins or loses, except when they're playing the United States, in which case, I root for them to lose.

On Sunday night, in the first half of their Gold Cup match against El Salvador, that Mexican national team was terrible. Despite all of the hype surrounding them coming into the tournament, the supremely talented Mexicans came out flat and looked like a team that had never played together. Then, the second half happened.

El Tri found a new gear, and they scored five goals in a half against a team that had completely held them at bay one half earlier. Javier Hernandez scored a hat trick. Giovani dos Santos was brilliant. Gerardo Torrado, a player who was poor in the first half, was great in the second. It was a remarkable turn of events, and it displayed a lot of the differences between the United States and Mexico.

The USMNT simply does not possess the gear that Mexico showed on Sunday. The reasons for that are numerous (and debatable), but the biggest one seems to be that they're just not that good. Their players don't have the skill and confidence to run at defenders, beat them, then finish with quality or pick out a teammate who will finish with quality. And, incredibly, Mexico was not at their best.

Pablo Barrera and Andres Guardado, talented wingers who were incredible in both of Mexico's warm-up games for the Gold Cup, were not great. Israel Castro was actually quite poor. Giovani dos Santos and Chicharito were pretty good, but both have had better days. That gear that the United States doesn't have? It was maybe a B+ performance.

This is not the Mexico team that the United States beat in 2007 at the Gold Cup. It's not even the one that they faced in Gold Cup qualifying. Those teams had rotating platoons all over the pitch, especially at striker. Javier Hernandez is far and away better than any striker that Mexico has had between now and the prime of Jared Borgetti. Andres Guardado was always injured. Giovani dos Santos couldn't get playing time with his clubs. The back line and goalie switched around all the time.

Now, it's a new era for Mexico. The XI they played on Sunday is their first choice starting XI, and no one questions this. There is a perfect mix of experienced players and young talent, and the entire front four is 24 or younger. Of the backups for those front four, Aldo de Nigris is the oldest at the age of 27. If Mexico had one squad to fill out this summer, de Nigris and Angel Reyna, age 26, might not make the team over the likes of Marco Fabian, Javier Cortes, Erick Torres and Carlos Vela.

It's very likely that this discrepancy between the United States and Mexico has much more to do with positive changes that Mexico has made than things the United States has failed to do, but the result is the same. The United States is absolutely not catching up to their nearest rival, and that rival is the one that should probably be their measuring stick for the time being.

However, even if Mexico had 25 Barcelona academies scattered across the country, that would not make my point invalid. The argument here is not that the United States is doing anything to hurt their players, it's that they're not gaining any ground on Mexico and their other close rivals.

Many of the veteran players in Mexico, players like Maza Rodriguez, Carlos Salcido, Israel Castro and Ricardo Osorio did not become first team regulars for top flight clubs in Mexico until they were around the age of 22. The same applies for older Mexican legends like Jared Borgetti and Cuauhtemoc Blanco. This is similar to the current system in Major League Soccer, where the vast majority of players attend university for some period of time before turning professional. There are some obviously notable exceptions in the US team, but there are just as many in the Mexican national team. The point is, for the veteran players in both teams, most became first team regulars for a professional team around the age of 21 or 22.

For Mexico, this has changed considerably. As a player who became a first team regular at the age of 20, Chicharito is considered a seriously late bloomer. Andres Guardado, Giovani dos Santos, Efrain Juarez and Pablo Barrera all became first team regulars as teenagers. This is becoming more common in Mexico, and it's why there are so many good, young players in their player pool.

These players are playing in a league that is, top to bottom, a better league than Major League Soccer. The teams at the top of MLS would be able to compete in the Mexican Primera, but the league as a whole is not as strong as the more established Primera. This is very understandable, as the Mexican Primera has been around much longer, but it doesn't change the fact that it simply is not as good at the moment, for a variety of reasons.

From a player development standpoint, the Mexican Primera is much more conducive to producing players who are competitive in a variety of professional leagues and in international competition. American teams and players have relied mostly on speed, strength, size and effort for a very long time, which allows them to compete in a variety of environments, but recent trends in world football have put a higher value on technical skills and tactical awareness.

Teams and players in the Mexican Primera are almost certainly, as a whole, more technically skilled in every way than their counterparts in MLS. The league has more teams who are adept and keeping possession through passing on the ground and more players who are good at running at defenders, then beating them with some kind of technical move. Being taught how to do that as an attacking player makes you a more effective, well-rounded player than someone who is not encouraged to do so, and facing players who have those skills as a defender makes you a much better defender.

Additionally, the tactical variations in the Mexican Primera are much more wide-reaching than those in MLS. A player coming out of the Primera will have seen more different tactical setups than his counterpart in MLS. This, almost certainly, is something that makes players better.

Pick out any great young player in the United States player pool, and it is easy to pick out his counterpart in position, skill set, age, and raw talent in the Mexican player pool. On just about every occasion, the Mexican player will be more accomplished. Juan Agudelo does not have the playing time or scoring record behind him that Cubo Torres does. Brek Shea is not on the level of Javier Cortes and Marco Fabian. Tim Ream has a long way to go before he is at the level of Hector Moreno. Though Eric Lichaj seems young to many US fans, he's less than a year younger than Mexico starting right back Efrain Juarez. And of course, the gap between Jozy Altidore and Javier Hernandez is astronomical.

But it's not just Mexico. Where is the American Bryan Ruiz or Celso Borges? How about the American Kenywne Jones? Why isn't the United States even close to the second tier South American nations in player development, nations whose domestic football leagues are not financially stable at all? The fact that football is the most popular sport in those countries is not an excuse; Uruguay and Paraguay have less than 11 million people combined.

The United States may not be regressing in terms of player development, but their stagnation represents regression relative to the rest of the world. I firmly believe that the likes of Pele and Johan Cruyff, as absolutely brilliant and revolutionary as they were in their times, would not be world class players in modern football. Times change, people evolve, and the game evolves. Every generation's best player is the greatest player of all time in his prime. This is why stagnation over a long period of time in football is essentially just a slower form of regression.

Recently, the United States Soccer Federation has made some serious changes in its strategy for developing players and in their coaching curriculum. We will not see the positive results from these changes for a few years. It is my sincere hope that the changes the US Soccer Federation has made in player and coach development have a significant positive impact on those areas, ultimately making this entire article null and void five years from now. However, right now, the United States men's national team appears to be falling behind their competition.

http://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2011/6/6/2208601/united-states-usmnt-usa-mexico-el-tri-2011-gold-cup-chicharito-jozy-altidore

:toast

scott

06-06-2011, 11:31 AM

Well, at least the Women's team is class.

I wonder if we can just send them to the Gold Cup instead.

MannyIsGod

06-06-2011, 07:17 PM

Torres not as good as Rogers or Sasha? Get yo head checked foo

Well I don't think Rogers should have been invited to begin with but the point is that those 2 can play on the wings while Torres plays centrally. Not fair to compare him to those two. Torres is fighting for time with Edu, Jones, Bradley and others who can play centrally and he's not as versatile as a guy like Bedoya.

MannyIsGod

06-06-2011, 07:26 PM

MannyIsGod

06-06-2011, 07:35 PM

The fact that football is the most popular sport in those countries is not an excuse

Also, thats gotta be one of the dumbest things he could have posted? Where are Uraguays Lebron James? Where are Urugay's dominant Line Backers? Where are the dominant Hockey players from Uraguay?

Of course it matters how popular the sport is in the country. If he wants to know where our American dominant player is, he needs look no further than the Italian National Team. But yeah, I guess Rossi leaving had nothing to do with how popular the sport is here vs Italy.

scott

06-06-2011, 10:46 PM

Well I don't think Rogers should have been invited to begin with but the point is that those 2 can play on the wings while Torres plays centrally. Not fair to compare him to those two. Torres is fighting for time with Edu, Jones, Bradley and others who can play centrally and he's not as versatile as a guy like Bedoya.

Rodgers doesn't belong on the squad, regardless of position, and Sasha isn't a wing either. His performance was significantly better once he moved into the center next to Bradley, but even then he doesn't belong on the team either.

I'm losing faith in Edu as a MF as well, his future on this team may need to be at CB.

MannyIsGod

06-06-2011, 10:56 PM

Edu is fine. He's just not at a consistent level that Bradley is at. Jones isn't really much better than Edu but he shows flashes. Honestly, I think the biggest detriment to this team is their lack of consistent playing time as a unit. At some point in this cycle I hope Bradley nails down a top 11-13 players and consistently sticks with them.

Sense

06-07-2011, 03:55 AM

Thats a pretty bullshit article, TBH. 10 years ago, the US way overachieved and I don't think anyone can argue otherwise. This past world cup, the US played extremely well and even with the refs screwing us at every opportunity they made it into the round of 16. One can say they underachieved there, but thats a tough sell.

How is that stagnation? Yeah, they haven't looked great in the friendlies and their B- team got their ass kicked by the number one team in the world but the US has also played 3 of the worlds top 5 teams in the the past few months and have had only one cupcake where they brought a very young team.

You have to try extremely hard to say they've stagnated considering they've just come off an excellent world cup and a bad ass confederations cup just before that. In fact you have to flat out make a stupid argument.

Mexico is good. Mexico is the favorite. But the final isn't a seven game series and Mexico as a whole is not THAT much better than the US' A+ team. Mexico fans want to look at the Spain and El Salvador games and think they have it in the bag but the fact is that Mexico is no where near at the level of Spain and the US' isn't near at the level of El Salvador.

Keep counting those chickens though.

At the end of the day, the USMNT has not progressed at all since those games in confederations and world cup... I'm not exactly sure how "good" they were at the world cup but I'll just give you that and keep going.

The US was never better than Mexico other than 2007 when they beat Mexico in the Gold Cup... in recent years at least..

Mexico has been progressing far more than the US... Mexico has played a much better Spain team that the US just played and didn't lose by 4.

At the end of the day the US doesn't have the extra edge for an upset or to keep progressing... they're at the same level.. just another dull team that will rarely succeed....

Mexico at least has a chance at upsets..

You can't deny Mexico>USA at this moment in time... and unless the US beats Mexico in this Gold Cup, it will continue to be like this..

No excuses.

MannyIsGod

06-07-2011, 08:29 AM

Mexico is the favorite. We'll see who's better in a few weeks. I'm not going to judge based off international friendlies where the US plays guys that should not even have been invited to the camp.

scott

06-07-2011, 01:28 PM

Discussion popping up on another board about what kind of GC performance would be required for Bob to get fired.

Would a 5-0 loss to Mexico in the final be enough?

scott

06-07-2011, 01:35 PM

With that said, Mexico wasn't the clear cut favorite before last Saturday, and I don't think they are the obvious favorite now that the US B team lost to the World Champions A- squad.

We horribly lack depth, and our B team should lose to just about any quality squad in the world.

Mexico brings a lot in the attack and has a solid backline, but our midfield outclasses them. I'd put Mexico as only a very slight favorite over the US right now. Mexico fans laugh at the idea we are close; but they are idiot Mexico fans: they same ones who claim superiority over the US but fail to realize Mexico has the same history achievment on the world stage (which is NONE). They same ones who take so much pride in drumming us at the '09 Gold Cup Final while our A-team was busy in the Confed Cup.

We will see who is better in a few weeks, indeed.

That is, of course, unless the US really does suck. And then I'll come in here and say "yeah, we suck... Mexico is better... FML... where is Klinsmann?"

IronMaxipad

06-07-2011, 01:56 PM

MannyIsGod

06-07-2011, 02:25 PM

You know, I'm almost to the point with Bradley where him being fired MIGHT be worth getting our ass kicked by Mexico. Sadly, I don't think he even gets close to being fired if they lose big to Mexico. Going to take losing to someone else and not even making it to the final for that talk to start.

I thought it was just Robbie Findley, but after his choice of ROBBIE FUCKING ROGERS I see it will simply always be the case.

scott

06-09-2011, 08:37 AM

Does anyone on our squad give confidence they could score a goal like McBride's first here?

Wn8-LDFrlB8

Seems like all of our shots in traffic go right into a defender.

Sense

06-09-2011, 03:21 PM

lol ^

symple19

06-09-2011, 03:34 PM

Does anyone on our squad give confidence they could score a goal like McBride's first here?

Wn8-LDFrlB8

Seems like all of our shots in traffic go right into a defender.

That's what a striker is expected to do, but I see your point

Far more impressive to me is the run by Reyna...Miss that dude

Phenomanul

06-10-2011, 09:56 PM

That's what a striker is expected to do, but I see your point

Far more impressive to me is the run by Reyna...Miss that dude

I second that... 'Captain America' was a hell of a captain, leader on and off the field... embodiment of professionalism and class...

Phenomanul

06-10-2011, 10:00 PM

I think the only thing missing in that recap clip was O'Brien's handball in the penalty box... had the ref sanctioned that play by the book and given him a red card I believe the outcome of that game would have been totally different... Instead the US takes the rebound from that play, goes on a break and Landon Donovan seals it with a header.... Game Over.

MannyIsGod

06-12-2011, 07:17 PM

-----------Howard------------
Dolo--Goodson--Boca--Lichaj
----Bradley----Sacha--------
Landon--------------Bedoya
---Jozy--------Dempsey------

Thats my lineup for the final game. I'd actually rather have Ream than Boca but yeah.

scott

06-12-2011, 07:25 PM

Boca is good in the middle.

I'd actually like to see Freddy in there instead of Sasha. Freddy is the only one we have who can come in as a creative, attacking mid. And since we are playing like a Division II Turkish team anyway, he will fit right in.

MannyIsGod

06-13-2011, 12:20 PM

So, would it be worth it to lose the next game and get Bradley fired since we're likely going to lose to Mexico anyway?

Vici

06-13-2011, 01:17 PM

Maybe not. We need players like Chandler and if we lose, why would he choose us over Germany? Even if we fire Bradley who would we hire over him? We will never hire Klinsman.

Spurstro

06-15-2011, 03:15 PM

Looks like Chandler is going to stick with the U.S...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/raphael_honigstein/06/15/timmy.chandler/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_wr_a5

IronMaxipad

06-15-2011, 10:29 PM

Landon Donovan and Clint Dempsey will attend family weddings this weekend and miss preparations for the U.S. national soccer team’s CONCACAF Gold Cup quarterfinal Sunday against Jamaica at RFK Stadium, the U.S. Soccer Federation said. Both are scheduled to travel Saturday night and play in the 3 p.m. match.

While the U.S. squad flew to Washington from Kansas City, Mo., on Wednesday, Donovan and Dempsey, the team’s most influential attacking players, were headed to California and Texas, respectively. Coach Bob Bradley granted their requests for time-off well before the tournament, USSF spokesman Michael Kammarman told the Insider.

Donovan’s sister and Dempsey’s sister are getting married Saturday.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/soccer-insider/post/landon-donovan-and-clint-dempsey-to-attend-family-weddings-wont-rejoin-us-national-soccer-team-for-concacaf-gold-cup-quarterfinal-against-jamaica-until-this-weekend/2011/06/15/AGcXSdWH_blog.html

:lol

symple19

06-15-2011, 10:33 PM

Looks like Chandler is going to stick with the U.S...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/raphael_honigstein/06/15/timmy.chandler/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_wr_a5

great news. He would've made a big difference for the US team in this tourny.

symple19

06-15-2011, 10:34 PM

:lol

Not sure why this is funny. I'd probably do the same if I were in that position

What is funny is that the US will probably lose regardless...

IronMaxipad

06-15-2011, 10:38 PM

Not sure why this is funny. I'd probably do the same if I were in that position

What is funny is that the US will probably lose regardless...

Because Dempsey was complaining about lack of "warmup time" and now he's going to miss preparations. Then if the US losses we'll here the lack of preparation excuse next.

http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/66/united-states/2011/06/13/2531057/clint-dempsey-complains-about-lack-of-warmup-time-prior-to

symple19

06-15-2011, 10:39 PM

Because Dempsey was complaining about lack of "warmup time" and now he's going to miss preparations. Then if the US losses we'll here the lack of preparation excuse next.

http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/66/united-states/2011/06/13/2531057/clint-dempsey-complains-about-lack-of-warmup-time-prior-to

ahhh, gotcha. Hadn't seen that.

Libri

06-19-2011, 11:25 PM

U-17 World Cup

USA 3
Cze 0

http://www.ussoccer.com/News/U-17-MNT/2011/06/U17-MNT-Opens-World-Cup-with-Convincing-30-Win.aspx

scott

06-20-2011, 09:24 AM

What's the rule on capping players to lock them into a nation? Do they have to get capped in a competitive tournament for the senior team, or do U teams count?

MannyIsGod

06-20-2011, 10:09 AM

robino2001

06-20-2011, 10:29 AM

U teams don't count. Has to be senior team and I don't think friendlies count although I could be wrong. There are exceptions to that as well depending on other factors. TBH, its all pretty fucking confusing to me. I do know for a fact U teams don't count, though.

I think (again, think - could be totally wrong) that friendlies count if in a year that does not have a major tournament (WC and regional tourneys). I think the olympics don't count as part of that.

scott

06-20-2011, 11:57 AM

Thanks guys. I know Chandler isn't official with the US yet because he only played in friendlies for us this year. I want us to get him officially capped soon before Germany changes their mind about him.

There is some talent on the U17 team that might be eligible for other countries as well (I think we have an Argentinian kid who scored yesterday) that hopefully we can hang on to.

IronMaxipad

06-20-2011, 01:13 PM

1. Any player who is a naturalized citizen of a country in virtue of that country’s laws shall be eligible to play for a national or representative team of that country.

2. If a player has been included in a national or representative team of a country for which he is eligible to play pursuant to paragraph 1, he shall not be permitted to take part in an international match for another country. Accordingly, any player who is qualified to play for more than one national association (i.e. who has dual nationality) will be deemed to have committed himself to one association only when he plays his first international match in an official competition for that association.

3. The only players exempt from this provision are those whose nationality has been changed not voluntarily but as the result of an international decree either granting independence to a region or ceding part of one country to another.

MannyIsGod

06-20-2011, 11:56 PM

http://www.yanksarecoming.com/its-finally-sunny-in-raf-a-dephia-2-0-quarterfinal-win-saw-us-finally-play-a-formation-that-suits-its-personnel

Sums up my thoughts PERFECTLY.

I'm not sure who starts on Wednesday but I'll be really dissapointed if at least one of bedoya/sacha is not in the field in that formation.

symple19

06-21-2011, 12:58 AM

^good article. Never heard of that blog, thanks

scott

06-21-2011, 08:05 AM

Agreed Manny. I think Alejandro is in better form, but he is showing he really isn't a guy to go a full 90 for us. I say start Sacha with Donovan and Dempsey as the wingers then bring Bedoya in for him at 60-65' and push Dempsey in as the Central mid.

Of course, that assumes we can get 90 out of Agudelo, who hasn't really thrived in that role either, he's been better as a Super-sub. Losing Jozy really hurts there. We really don't have anyone else who can step into the attacking triangle behind Bedoya or Sacha... unless... no... we wouldn't... would we? Could we? No... not... FREEEEEEEDDY!

scott

06-21-2011, 08:11 AM

:::sigh::: we really miss Holden...

scott

06-21-2011, 08:13 AM

And in other news... Edu has been pretty much relegated to Germany Jones's relief. I think Jones is quickly elevating his status to one of our top players. Maurice should probably go ahead and start that transition to CB.

MannyIsGod

06-21-2011, 10:22 AM

Jones is good in spurts. I thought his first half of the last game was fairly terrible but he had a much better 2nd half. Also, whats the feeling on the dive by fans here? I've seen/heard a lot of discussion about it and while I do hate diving I was happy when he did it.

The irony is that twitter and the blogs were blowing up with it the night before because of Davies dive in his MLS game that once again netted his team a PK that gave them a point. A lot of criticism for him regarding the dives but there were actually a few people who said that it was something that they were glad he did since the MNT seems to need that. I know Bedoya actually seems to know how to go down in the box well but I'm torn on it. I know its pretty hypocritical of me but I'm not going to lie and say that part of me wasn't happy when I saw Jones do it and get something out of it.

As for the lineup, Sacha has been playing great and so has Bedoya. I would not mind seeing Donovan and Demps on the wings with Sacha in the middle but I honestly think the better lineup might be Demps in the middle with Donovan and Bedoya on the wings. That just seems SO dynamic and it puts Deuce where he should be in the middle and not on the wing. You can't go wrong with either formation, though. Oh and Lichaj better start. As far as I'm concerned he's earned the LB spot until someone beats him out.

scott

06-21-2011, 10:41 AM

MannyIsGod

06-21-2011, 10:51 AM

Jones was not good in the first half and he was really frustrated at points. I rewatched and it was definitely the case. Hence the stupid yellow he picked up. Bedoya can go 90. I'm not sure why you're saying he can't. I definitely think he's not a bad option off the bench as a change of pace player but he can def go 90. He should have played 90 but it was obvious Bradley was going to play Landon and no one else really made sense to come off.

scott

06-21-2011, 10:54 AM

Bedoya hit a wall around 60' that seemed pretty apparent. He's like Hercules in the amount of energy he brings - just too much to maintain that for 90 minutes.

Sense

06-21-2011, 01:02 PM

Jones terrible in the 1st half? Dude what game were you watching? He was clearing the MoM.

Jones definitely exaggerated, but he did get hit and it was a foul deserving of a red (hence why you didn't see Jamaica even try to argue). What I don't like was the "sniper got me" embellishment that Jones made - but at least he didn't writhe in pain grabbing his face for 5 minutes. I'm torn. Would like to see less acting for sure, but it wasn't a "simulation" since he actually did get hit.

Bedoya just can't go 90. That's why Sacha should start.

Jones was never touched.... ever on that red.

The Jamaican didn't argue because he knew he was tackling from behind... and I guess he noticed the nice act Jones pulled and gave him his props :rolleyes. Look at the replay again, if there is any out there for that crap.. Jones was never touched.

Spurstro

06-21-2011, 01:11 PM

khbDD-6zHsI&rel

He definitely got hit...he embellished it, but he got hit.

I don't think I have ever seen a defender get red-carded and not say a word if it was the wrong call.

Sense

06-21-2011, 01:17 PM

khbDD-6zHsI&rel

He definitely got hit...he embellished it, but he got hit.

I don't think I have ever seen a defender get red-carded and not say a word if it was the wrong call.

See that's what gets me mad though, he got touched way before he decided to take a dive, and he had already gotten back on balance.. and that really didn't deserve a red, it's not like the tackle got the impact.. it was after he kept running that he touched him with the heel...

I still don't agree with the red.. and I still think it's pretty fucking weak he fell to the ground after that.

Spurstro

06-21-2011, 01:31 PM

See that's what gets me mad though, he got touched way before he decided to take a dive, and he had already gotten back on balance.. and that really didn't deserve a red, it's not like the tackle got the impact.. it was after he kept running that he touched him with the heel...

The last defender dove in....missed the ball....hit the offensive player...that's an automatic red.

So, if he would fallen/stumbled/tripped/whatever as soon as he got hit (instead of a step later), would you then say a red is warranted?

I still think it's pretty fucking weak he fell to the ground after that.

I think we'll all agree it was weak, but it happens everywhere and it's just part of the game.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it was the World Cup Final where Robben was in on goal, and got fouled, but he stayed on his feet to try and score. He missed the chance, but I wonder if he could do it over again if he would have done the same thing.

IronMaxipad

06-21-2011, 01:41 PM

http://www.theaquapedia.com/images/thumb/7/76/USA_Diving_logo.jpg/175px-USA_Diving_logo.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/nkbfj.gif

ALVAREZ6

06-21-2011, 04:59 PM

lmao that pussy ass dive should receive a card...I'd love to see that used more often, give players automatic yellows when they clearly dive in instances of horrible acting...like falling a second or two late, even when you're back on your feet in perfect position to keep running.

Spurstro

06-22-2011, 09:10 AM

Well I guess we wouldn't be having this conversation if USA players hit the ground the second they are touched like Latin teams. :downspin:

scott

06-22-2011, 11:42 AM

Jones was never touched.... ever on that red.

The Jamaican didn't argue because he knew he was tackling from behind... and I guess he noticed the nice act Jones pulled and gave him his props :rolleyes. Look at the replay again, if there is any out there for that crap.. Jones was never touched.

Got any more brilliant analysis to share?

Sense

06-22-2011, 05:09 PM

Got any more brilliant analysis to share?

Technically, he wasn't touched...

He touched the other player.

Sense

06-22-2011, 05:10 PM

btw DaMarcus Beasley joins Puebla

http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id/6693954/mexican-club-puebla-signs-us-forward-damarcus-beasley

Libri

06-30-2011, 05:01 PM

U-17

Germany 4
USA 0

Sense

06-30-2011, 05:33 PM

U-17

Germany 4
USA 0

giggle

scott

06-30-2011, 09:26 PM

btw DaMarcus Beasley joins Puebla

http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id/6693954/mexican-club-puebla-signs-us-forward-damarcus-beasley

Sending the DMB and Bornstein to the Mexican League is the best payback we can swing right now.

Libri

06-30-2011, 10:10 PM

Eddie Johnson returning to the MLS?

http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/69/transfer-zone/2011/06/30/2553975/us-international-forward-eddie-johnson-considering-a-return

MannyIsGod

07-15-2011, 09:27 AM

Jozy signs with AZ!

Spurstro

07-15-2011, 11:01 AM

Jozy signs with AZ!

Looks like it's a permanent deal and not a loan. Hope he gets some playing time, but I'm a little bummed because I always wanted to see him beasting in La Liga.

MannyIsGod

07-15-2011, 11:42 AM

You might in the future. Dude is still young. If he gets playing time the Dutch league might be the best for him to show his stuff.

I just want to see Jozy get playing time. If he sucks then so be it, but at least give him consistent time.

Spurologist

07-22-2011, 09:26 AM

http://www.potomacsoccerwire.com/news/460/17278

Canales: U.S. international Michael Bradley confronted Eric Wynalda before Gold Cup final
19 Jul, 2011

By Charles Boehm

Though players and coaches did their best not to show it, the U.S. Men’s National Team was under heavy pressure this summer as it labored its way through an uneven Gold Cup campaign, which ended in a humbling 4-2 loss to Mexico in the tournament final on June 25.

That fact has been driven home by last week’s revelation that before an interview on the eve of that game, central midfielder Michael Bradley angrily confronted a journalist about criticism Bradley perceived to be unfair. Veteran Los Angeles-based soccer reporter Andrea Canales broke news of the incident on SI.com, shedding light on the mindset of one of the United States’ most important players – who also happens to be the son of the head coach, Bob Bradley.

“According to a witness who spoke on the record, but declined attribution, midfielder Michael Bradley was upset that Fox Soccer pundit and former U.S. national team player Eric Wynalda had suggested other players on the U.S. roster as more deserving of playing time – especially given Bradley's lack of game time with Aston Villa,” wrote Canales. “Specifically, it was Wynalda's quotes in an ESPN.com article about how midfielders Maurice Edu and Jermaine Jones had ‘earned’ consideration for the national team with their club play that bothered Michael Bradley….Wynalda, no shrinking violet himself, fired back at the player.

‘Grow the [expletive] up,’ Wynalda reportedly said. ‘You have a problem with me complimenting players who play your position.’”

Surprisingly, the duo eventually calmed down enough to sit down and go through with the interview as planned.

Wynalda later verified to Canales that the incident took place. While U.S. Soccer staff would only confirm that Michael Bradley was present at the interview session, it was more revealing that on the day her SI.com piece was published, Canales stated on her blog, Sideline Views, that some within U.S. Soccer had accused her of “tabloid journalism” for reporting on the exchange.

“Never mind that what Michael Bradley said was done publicly, even though it was a small group of people,” wrote Canales. “What bothered me most about the reaction of those from US Soccer who talked to me was the impression that it almost didn't seem to matter that the incident had occurred. That didn't seem to be a problem at all. There was more outrage expressed that I tracked the story down and was writing about it.”

Beyond Michael Bradley’s anger management issues and sensitivity to criticism, the affair also renews questions about the effects of the father-son dynamic on the national team. It’s a difficult topic, given that Bob Bradley faced accusations of nepotism for playing his son even when Michael’s form clearly deserved an important role on the U.S. squad.

This year, with the midfielder struggling for playing time at club level and the national team failing to impress its increasingly demanding fans in recent matches, the situation has become one more flashpoint for a frustrated soccer nation and the players that represent it at the international level.

Wynalda and other observers have wondered whether Michael’s relationship with his father prevents a normal locker-room dynamic from developing, while Bob Bradley’s coaching style has come under scrutiny given the team’s uneven results.
According to Canales, one of Bradley’s former players even contacted her after the SI.com article was published and shared a view that, if true, is unnerving.

“While I found Bradley to be technically knowledgeable about the game, I have never seen a coach suck the life out of a team like that,” said the player, as quoted by Canales on Sideline Views. “He took every ounce of joy, not to mention fairness, out of the game.”

U.S. Soccer, and the American soccer community in general, is a small world where connections matter, information travels fast and speaking out on uncomfortable topics can lead to repercussions, so it’s very difficult to pin down what is fact and what is hearsay in this situation. But if Michael Bradley’s temper is as combustible as it seems, it may only be a matter of time before more such fireworks pop off in and around the Men’s National Team camp.

more reason for Bradley to GTFO tbh. Gulati doesn't have the balls. US soccer has plateaued.....time to develop the younyings and get a foreign coach.

MannyIsGod

07-22-2011, 11:28 AM

Thats immature as shit. But MB gets fucking coddled by his father. He's definitely a worth member of the team, but its upsetting that Mo Edu can barely see the pitch because he def has game and yet MB is a fixture on the pitch every fucking game even though he couldn't get any time at AV. If Bradley holds back Stu Holden there will be hell to pay.

MannyIsGod

07-22-2011, 11:29 AM

Also, Bedoya will be joining Rangers in Scottland and gets to pair up with Edu. Should be nice to see him play at a better team with a chance for some CL caps.

Spurstro

07-22-2011, 03:26 PM

Also, Bedoya will be joining Rangers in Scottland and gets to pair up with Edu. Should be nice to see him play at a better team with a chance for some CL caps.

I thought that wasn't going to take place until the Winter break....doubt Rangers would still be alive in CL.

MannyIsGod

07-22-2011, 04:47 PM

Maybe not this year but I'm sure they'll be in it while he's there.

Libri

07-23-2011, 08:46 PM

RM winning 2-0 against the Union in the first half. RM's defense in this game has been terrible and Philadelphia has had opportunities to score.

MannyIsGod

07-25-2011, 10:55 PM

WaZvPpEtxow

Shea's had a breakout year. Definitely needs to get a call up again. Left footed player who can play anywhere. Yes please!

Spurstro

07-28-2011, 02:32 PM

Bob Bradley fired...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/soccer/07/28/bradley.usmnt.out/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a3&eref=sihp

Why wait so long? Perhaps he was looking for more control?