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George Gervin's Afro
06-30-2010, 10:08 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/30/angle-retracts-comment-reid/?test=latestnews

Angle: 'I Meant Take Reid Out of Office'

Published June 30, 2010
| Associated Press

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LOS ANGELES -- Nevada Senate candidate Sharron Angle backed away Tuesday from remarks in which she referred to the Second Amendment right to bear arms and the need to "take ... out" Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

Angle, in her first extended Nevada interview since winning the June 8 primary, said she was speaking broadly about the Constitution and her words about the Democratic leader were "a little strong."

The Republican nominee stopped short of an apology but said she no longer uses that phrase.

"I meant take him out of office, and taking him out of office is a little different," Angle said. "I changed my rhetoric."

Angle's interview on Nevada's KVBC's news interview program "Face to Face with Jon Ralston" came after several weeks in which she's rarely talked with reporters but turned up routinely on conservative talk radio shows. Her campaign spokesman, Jerry Stacy, said she's been busy raising money and building a campaign organization and is planning more interviews.

"We're not hiding out from anybody," Stacy said.

In a wide-ranging and sometimes contentious exchange with Ralston, Angle defended her proposal to phase out Social Security for younger workers, affirmed her opposition to abortion, including instances involving rape and incest, and sparred with the host over the origin and meaning of the separation of church and state.

When asked if separation of church and state arises out of the Constitution, Angle answered no. She said Thomas Jefferson is often misquoted and that he wanted to protect churches from being taken over by a state religion. The drafters of the Constitution "didn't mean that we couldn't bring our values to the political forum," she said.

Reid's campaign said Angle's remarks showed she believed church-state separation is unconstitutional. Angle spokesman Stacy said in a statement that Reid is "figuring out ways to twist a larger historical statement Angle was making about the origins of separation of church and state. He's doing it because he's terrified of having a real discussion about jobs and the economy."

Angle's remarks about the Second Amendment and Reid came earlier this year on a conservative radio talk show, "The Lars Larson Show." She said that "if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying, 'My goodness what can we do to turn this country around? And I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out."

She did not explain what she meant by "Second Amendment remedies" in Tuesday's interview.

Reid campaign spokesman Jon Summers said, "It wasn't a gaffe, it is a philosophy. She has repeated that language many times."

Reid's campaign has been depicting Angle as too far out of the mainstream for Nevada, while she has said it's Reid who is out of step with a state suffering from record unemployment, foreclosures and bankruptcies.

At one point in the interview, Angle said the questions in the interview failed to address those larger issues in the race. "Those are things we should really be discussing," she said.



I get what the Tea party is and represents, but does anyone actually think Angle's politics are anywhere near mainstream? I know many of the board like to pretend that these groups are avg middle of the road Americans but these folks have zero chance of garnering moderates support.

TeyshaBlue
06-30-2010, 10:12 AM
I get what the Tea party is and represents, but does anyone actually think Angle's politics are anywhere near mainstream? I know many of the board like to pretend that these groups are avg middle of the road Americans but these folks have zero chance of garnering moderates support.

You sure are reading alot of Fox these days. You ok?:lol


And no, Angle's stance on the separation of church and state is ridiculous. The caveat she tried to add to the Harry Reid remark was similarly absurd. She shouldn't stand a chance, but then again, we had the giant nutbar, Cynthia Dunbar on the SBOE so who knows?

boutons_deux
06-30-2010, 10:21 AM
Angle is very definitely mainstream ... in AZ and other backward bubba/racist/"Christian" areas.

spursncowboys
06-30-2010, 11:22 AM
I get what the Tea party is and represents, but does anyone actually think Angle's politics are anywhere near mainstream? I know many of the board like to pretend that these groups are avg middle of the road Americans but these folks have zero chance of garnering moderates support.

Would you say Barry, Reid, and Pelosi are mainstream?

TeyshaBlue
06-30-2010, 11:38 AM
Would you say Barry, Reid, and Pelosi are mainstream?

Non sequitur. They're not in the Tea Party.

We're talking Ms. Angle here.

boutons_deux
06-30-2010, 11:40 AM
Are the old southern/western white "Christian" Senators trashing Jewish female Kagan and black Thurgood Marshall this week mainstream?

spursncowboys
06-30-2010, 11:51 AM
What I should have said is the Tea Party can become a big enough block to alter and kill bills but for now I don't think they will be directing the career politicians in the RNC.

boutons_deux
06-30-2010, 11:56 AM
"to alter and kill bills"

they need to win a lot more elections, not just a few primaries.

DarrinS
06-30-2010, 12:01 PM
No, she was literally giving marching orders to her brown shirt minions to go out and shoot down Harry Reid in the streets of Phoenix. :rolleyes

Are you guys really this stupid?

And why are liberals so obsessed/afraid of the Tea Party movement?

George Gervin's Afro
06-30-2010, 12:02 PM
Would you say Barry, Reid, and Pelosi are mainstream?

They are more mainstream than Angle is.

George Gervin's Afro
06-30-2010, 12:02 PM
You sure are reading alot of Fox these days. You ok?:lol


And no, Angle's stance on the separation of church and state is ridiculous. The caveat she tried to add to the Harry Reid remark was similarly absurd. She shouldn't stand a chance, but then again, we had the giant nutbar, Cynthia Dunbar on the SBOE so who knows?

Oh I do watch Fox a lot... I'm dumber for it..

George Gervin's Afro
06-30-2010, 12:04 PM
What I should have said is the Tea Party can become a big enough block to alter and kill bills but for now I don't think they will be directing the career politicians in the RNC.

So they can come in and perpetually stop legislative action. Do you think the majority of the counrty wants that?

CosmicCowboy
06-30-2010, 12:08 PM
So they can come in and perpetually stop legislative action. Do you think the majority of the counrty wants that?

Actually, IMHO stopping most legislative action is a good thing. They fuck up a lot more than they fix.

ChumpDumper
06-30-2010, 12:09 PM
No, she was literally giving marching orders to her brown shirt minions to go out and shoot down Harry Reid in the streets of Phoenix. :rolleyes

Are you guys really this stupid?1) What is your definition of "Second Amendment remedies"?

2) Why Phoenix? This story involves the senate race in Nevada.

spursncowboys
06-30-2010, 12:15 PM
So they can come in and perpetually stop legislative action. Do you think the majority of the counrty wants that?

yes

DarrinS
06-30-2010, 12:15 PM
1) What is your definition of "Second Amendment remedies"?

2) Why Phoenix? This story involves the senate race in Nevada.


My bad. She was giving marching orders for his assassination in Searchlight.

spursncowboys
06-30-2010, 12:15 PM
Actually, IMHO stopping most legislative action is a good thing. They fuck up a lot more than they fix.

word

George Gervin's Afro
06-30-2010, 12:21 PM
yes

You're wrong

ChumpDumper
06-30-2010, 12:22 PM
My bad. She was giving marching orders for his assassination in Searchlight.What is your definition of "Second Amendment remedies"?

DarrinS
06-30-2010, 12:35 PM
What is your definition of "Second Amendment remedies"?

What's your definition of "toungue-in-cheek"?

ChumpDumper
06-30-2010, 12:39 PM
What's your definition of "toungue-in-cheek"?Are you claiming Angle was joking about the second amendment? What is your evidence of this?

boutons_deux
06-30-2010, 12:51 PM
"2nd Amendment remedies" and "take someone out" are obviously referring to shooting someone.

More Angle crap, she sounds like WC here:

Angle Calls Unemployed Americans ‘Spoiled,’ Claims There Are Plenty Of Jobs Out There

“There are jobs that do exist. That’s what we’re saying, is that there are jobs,” Angle replied.

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/06/30/angle-job/

George Gervin's Afro
06-30-2010, 12:56 PM
The GOP is going to lose a seat that was gift wrapped for them..

Wild Cobra
06-30-2010, 01:15 PM
And why are liberals so obsessed/afraid of the Tea Party movement?
They thought their masters would win, and now see they will not turn this nation into a liberal paradise paid for by the rich.

TeyshaBlue
06-30-2010, 01:28 PM
So they can come in and perpetually stop legislative action. Do you think the majority of the counrty wants that?

I think it depends on when you ask and what legislation is burning at the time.

TeyshaBlue
06-30-2010, 01:28 PM
The GOP is going to lose a seat that was gift wrapped for them..

Yup. Might not be a bad thing in the long run....

EVAY
06-30-2010, 02:39 PM
The GOP is going to lose a seat that was gift wrapped for them..

And if they don't lose it, the result will be even worse than Harry Reid...and I don't think that anyone on this forum, from either end of the political spectrum, doesn't consider Harry Reid just awful. But when the base of the Republican party comes up with someone liike Angle to run against, suddently Harry doesn't look like a loser anymore...he's still just awful, just not AS awful.


This is why I say Republicans have noone but themselves to blame for their losses. They have convinced themselves that moderates will tolerate folks like Angle and Palin more than they will tolerate Reid.

We don't have to like the democratic candidate to vote for them over people like this.