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Kill_Bill_Pana
06-30-2010, 05:01 PM
€14.532 million euros ($17.8 million) for 3 years with Olympiacos Piraeus.

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MavDynasty
06-30-2010, 05:04 PM
who gives a fuck

lol euro scrub who couldnt do shit in nba

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-30-2010, 05:20 PM
who gives a fuck

lol euro scrub who couldnt do shit in nba

Yet he will make more than any NBA player in Europe. Childress, Nachbar, Kleiza, Giricek, etc. many such players that were 6th men or starters on NBA playoff teams and Spanoulis will make more than them.

He will make more than most NBA players playing in NBA make.

Funny thing if he "is not good enough to play in NBA".

Muser
06-30-2010, 05:22 PM
Childress, Nachbar, Kleiza and Giricek (Who the fucks that?) were scrubs in the NBA.

Mel_13
06-30-2010, 05:22 PM
he "is not good enough to play in NBA".

True

ChumpDumper
06-30-2010, 05:23 PM
You said the government is shutting the Greek league down?

Which lie are you running with today?

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-30-2010, 05:23 PM
Childress, Nachbar, Kleiza and Giricek (Who the fucks that?) were scrubs in the NBA.

They were all 6th men on NBA playoff teams. Giricek even started on playoff teams in the NBA.

I guess you do not know what "scrub" means. Don't even know who Giricek is?

You are probably 12.

Kevin Durant 35
06-30-2010, 05:24 PM
who?

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-30-2010, 05:25 PM
You said the government is shutting the Greek league down?

Which lie are you running with today?

The Greek clubs had a meeting along with Greek League (HEBA). They decided they will pay the new taxes and not close.

They must pay 45% tax on all contracts over €100,000 euros per year.

They must pay €13,000 euros luxury tax on all contracts over €100,000 euros per year.

85% tax on all contracts over €1 million euros per year.

They must pay €3 euros luxury tax for each euro spent on all contracts over €2 million euros per season. NBA only charges dollar for dollar so this is 3 times bigger than NBA luxury tax.


The clubs and league decided finally they will accept it and not close as they first said they would. It means the budgets for all clubs will go up. Budget for Olympiacos will not be higher than any NBA club do to these new laws.

Muser
06-30-2010, 05:27 PM
If you think Kleiza isn't a scrub then idk what to say.

Ditty
06-30-2010, 05:28 PM
he sucked so bad in the nba hes a either a greedy bitch or too much of a pussy to come back to the nba or he sucks which everyone knows that

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-30-2010, 05:30 PM
he sucked so bad in the nba hes a either a greedy bitch or too much of a pussy to come back to the nba or he sucks which everyone knows that

Not true. According to Greek media he has contract offers from Philadelphia 76ers and Washington Wizards.

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-30-2010, 05:31 PM
If you think Kleiza isn't a scrub then idk what to say.


6th men on NBA playoff teams are not scrubs.

MavDynasty
06-30-2010, 05:33 PM
scrubs like eric dampier make more money then kevin durant..doesnt mean shit

ChumpDumper
06-30-2010, 05:33 PM
They must pay 3 euros luxury tax for each euro spent on all contracts over 2 million euros per season. NBA only charges dollar for dollar so this is 3 times bigger than NBA luxury tax.The NBA charges a tax if the total of all contracts goes over a certain number. It doesn't charge for individual contracts that exceed a number.

Mel_13
06-30-2010, 05:34 PM
This is very very sad news. :depressed:depressed:depressed

Greek government wants to tax all basketball clubs at 80%. All the clubs will have to shut down if this happens.

http://sport24.gr/html/ent/409/ent.370409.asp

:depressed:depressed:depressed:depressed




:depressed:depressed:depressed:depressed:depressed :depressed

Government made another new rule that is even worse. Now not only will government taxes be 80% on player contracts that the clubs have to pay but now also the club's must pay THREE EUROS LUXURY TAX to government for each euro they spend on a contract over 2 million euro per season.

:depressed:depressed:depressed:depressed

So a 2.4 million contract will cost the team 13.2 million per season. And Childress is to earn 5.5 just this season. He will cost more than the entire Euroleague champion team Barcelona cost if he refuses to leave the team. Fucking government.

:ihit:ihit:ihit:ihit:ihit:ihit:ihit

Because of this crazy new taxes by the government they are going to ruin Greek basketball.







The Greek clubs had a meeting along with Greek League (HEBA). They decided they will pay the new taxes and not close.

They must pay 45% tax on all contracts over 100,000 euros per year.

They must pay 13,000 euros luxury tax on all contracts over 100,000 euros per year.

80% tax on all contracts over 1 million euros per year.

They must pay 3 euros luxury tax for each euro spent on all contracts over 2 million euros per season. NBA only charges dollar for dollar so this is 3 times bigger than NBA luxury tax.


The clubs and league decided finally they will accept it and not close as they first said they would. It means the budgets for all clubs will go up. Budget for Olympiacos will not be higher than any NBA club do to these new laws.

Makes perfect sense. :downspin:

cd98
06-30-2010, 05:36 PM
Yet he will make more than any NBA player in Europe. Childress, Nachbar, Kleiza, Giricek, etc. many such players that were 6th men or starters on NBA playoff teams and Spanoulis will make more than them.

He will make more than most NBA players playing in NBA make.

Funny thing if he "is not good enough to play in NBA".

Dude. Childress was barely a starter. Nachbar, Kleiza, and Giricek all sucked. Giricek played his best years in the NBA and he was a scrub.

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-30-2010, 05:41 PM
The NBA charges a tax if the total of all contracts goes over a certain number. It doesn't charge for individual contracts that exceed a number.

I look again. This is new rule in Greek League. If players makes €2 million euros or more per season then club must pay 85% tax plus must pay €3x euros luxury tax fee.

So for example Childress is supposed to make €5.5 million euros next year net (he gets a big raise in last year of his contract).

This means club must pay €5.5 million euros net for him so his salary will be €10.975 million euros next season in salary ($13.4 million dollars), plus pay three times this in luxury tax. So he would cost more than almost all clubs in Europe. This is why they hope he will opt out of contract.


PAO announced from now on they will only pay €2 million euros or more per year to Obradovic and Diamantidis from now on because of this. Olympiacos said the new rules made it impossible for them to pursue NBA players ever again.

I like NBA rule better that charges for whole team and not just individual player. Greek rules are crazy. And 85% taxes???? :depressed:depressed:depressed

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-30-2010, 05:42 PM
Dude. Childress was barely a starter. Nachbar, Kleiza, and Giricek all sucked. Giricek played his best years in the NBA and he was a scrub.

Starters and 6th men on playoff teams are not scrubs. If you do not know what a scrub is then you have only followed NBA for at most a year.

Starters and 6th men on playoff teams are NOT "scrubs". Learn the definition, which is pathetic that people calling themself NBA fans don't even know what it means but are still using the word.

Mel_13
06-30-2010, 05:44 PM
If you do not know what a scrub is

http://www.nba.com/media/spurs/spanoulis_070712.jpg

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-30-2010, 05:46 PM
The rule is retroactive so luckily they will not have to pay the luxury tax on Childress if he stays. But for all contracts signed this year it will count. As Greek league said now they are blocked by goverment from signins any NBA top players because the rules prevent it.

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-30-2010, 05:47 PM
http://www.nba.com/media/spurs/spanoulis_070712.jpg

How many "scrubs" earn $17.8 million?

Mel_13
06-30-2010, 05:48 PM
The rule is retroactive so luckily they will not have to pay the luxury tax on Childress if he stays. But for all contracts signed this year it will count. As Greek league said now they are blocked by goverment from signins any NBA top players because the rules prevent it.

Whew....the massive talent drain of top NBA-level to Greece will finally end.

Shastafarian
06-30-2010, 05:48 PM
How many "scrubs" earn $16.3 million?

Apparently a lot.

Mel_13
06-30-2010, 05:48 PM
How many "scrubs" earn $16.3 million?

How stupid is the management of Oly to pay so much money to a scrub?

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-30-2010, 05:49 PM
Apparently a lot.


List them.

Shastafarian
06-30-2010, 05:50 PM
List them.

Well I'll get a bunch out of the way and start with:

Anyone in the Greek League making that amount of money

You want me to go into NBA players too or should I stick with lesser leagues?

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-30-2010, 05:50 PM
How stupid is the management of Oly to pay so much money to a scrub?

So the official named best point guard in Europe and official named third best European player in the world after only Pau and Dirk is a "scrub"?

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ChumpDumper
06-30-2010, 05:50 PM
How many "scrubs" earn $16.3 million?One so far.

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-30-2010, 05:51 PM
Well I'll get a bunch out of the way and start with:

Anyone in the Greek League making that amount of money

You want me to go into NBA players too or should I stick with lesser leagues?

No one in Europe makes that much. He will be highest paid player in Europe history.

ChumpDumper
06-30-2010, 05:52 PM
So the official best point guard in Europe and official third best European player in the world after only Pau and Dirk is a "scrub"?"Official"?

Link.

Mel_13
06-30-2010, 05:52 PM
So the official named best point guard in Europe and official named third best European player in the world after only Pau and Dirk is a "scrub"?



If you think VSpan meets that definition, then yes.

Shastafarian
06-30-2010, 05:52 PM
http://www.sportsgrindent.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/jerome_2bjames.jpg > http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/sports/photos/2008/07/11/220spanoulis_vassilis070812getty.jpg

Shastafarian
06-30-2010, 05:53 PM
No one in Europe makes that much. He will be highest paid player in Europe history.


One so far.

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-30-2010, 05:54 PM
"Official"?

Link.

FIBA Europe

Best European players in the world

1. Pau

2. Dirk

3. Spanoulis


This is the official list according to FIBA. All their panel of hall of fame players and coaches voted on it and includes all the NBA hall of fame guys.

http://www.basketballinspain.com/pau-gasol-named-2009-fiba-player-of-the-year.html

ChumpDumper
06-30-2010, 05:54 PM
FIBA Europe

Best European players in the world

1. Pau

2. Dirk

3. Spanoulis


This is the official list according to FIBA. All their panel of hall of fame players and coaches voted on it and includes all the NBA hall of fame guys.That isn't a link.

Mel_13
06-30-2010, 05:56 PM
FIBA Europe

Best European players in the world

1. Pau

2. Dirk

3. Spanoulis


This is the official list according to FIBA. All their panel of hall of fame players and coaches voted on it and includes all the NBA hall of fame guys.

So was this done in secret? Why is there no link to this official FIBA vote?

Shastafarian
06-30-2010, 05:56 PM
This is the official list according to FIBA. All their panel of hall of fame players and coaches voted on it and includes all the NBA hall of fame guys.

:rollin

jag
06-30-2010, 05:57 PM
I like NBA rule better that charges for whole team and not just individual player. Greek rules are crazy. And 85% taxes???? :depressed:depressed:depressed

I'll give it 15 years max until Greece looks like Somalia.

Agloco
06-30-2010, 06:11 PM
€13.32 million euros ($16.3 million) for 3 years with Olympiacos.

This, in a nutshell, is the reason why the Greek league and Greece itself is broke.

lol Greece.

Agloco
06-30-2010, 06:12 PM
I'll give it 15 years max until Greece looks like Somalia.

It already does in certain spots. :lol

Muser
06-30-2010, 06:13 PM
6th men on NBA playoff teams are not scrubs.

Kleiza wasn't a 6th man.

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-30-2010, 06:16 PM
That isn't a link.


http://www.basketballinspain.com/pau-gasol-named-2009-fiba-player-of-the-year.html

1. Pau Gasol
2. Dirk Nowitzki
3. Vassilis Spanoulis
4. Milos Teodosic
5. Erazem Lorbek
6. Rudy Fernandez
7. Juan Carlos Navarro
8. Tony Parker
9. Hedo Turkoglu
10. Ersan Ilyasova
11. Nikola Pekovic
12. Marcin Gortat
13. Novica Velickovic
14. Ioannis Bourousis
15. Igor Rakocevic
16. Lior Eliyahu

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-30-2010, 06:16 PM
So was this done in secret? Why is there no link to this official FIBA vote?

http://www.basketballinspain.com/pau-gasol-named-2009-fiba-player-of-the-year.html

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-30-2010, 06:17 PM
includes all the NBA hall of fame guys.:rollin


FIBA expert voting panel includes all the NBA coaches and NBA players that are in their hall of fame. Stop being a dumb ass.

MavDynasty
06-30-2010, 06:18 PM
lol shitty euro scrub

MavDynasty
06-30-2010, 06:18 PM
lol dickriding shitty euro scrubs

MavDynasty
06-30-2010, 06:20 PM
http://www.basketballinspain.com/pau-gasol-named-2009-fiba-player-of-the-year.html

LOL because fernandez>paker and turkoglu

Mel_13
06-30-2010, 06:21 PM
http://www.basketballinspain.com/pau-gasol-named-2009-fiba-player-of-the-year.html

2009 vote. VSpan wasn't in the top 12 in 2008 and he sucked in 2010.

http://www.basketballinspain.com/pau-gasol-fiba-player-of-the-year-2008.html

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-30-2010, 06:23 PM
2010 vote you idiot.

http://www.basketballinspain.com/pau...-the-year.html

1. Pau Gasol
2. Dirk Nowitzki
3. Vassilis Spanoulis
4. Milos Teodosic
5. Erazem Lorbek
6. Rudy Fernandez
7. Juan Carlos Navarro
8. Tony Parker
9. Hedo Turkoglu
10. Ersan Ilyasova
11. Nikola Pekovic
12. Marcin Gortat
13. Novica Velickovic
14. Ioannis Bourousis
15. Igor Rakocevic
16. Lior Eliyahu

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-30-2010, 06:24 PM
LOL because fernandez>paker and turkoglu

According to the hundreds of people on FIBA expert voting panel. Only people allowed on the panel are hall of fame players and coaches, NBA and FIBA.

Shastafarian
06-30-2010, 06:30 PM
2010 vote you idiot.

http://www.basketballinspain.com/pau...-the-year.html

1. Pau Gasol
2. Dirk Nowitzki
3. Vassilis Spanoulis
4. Milos Teodosic
5. Erazem Lorbek
6. Rudy Fernandez
7. Juan Carlos Navarro
8. Tony Parker
9. Hedo Turkoglu
10. Ersan Ilyasova
11. Nikola Pekovic
12. Marcin Gortat
13. Novica Velickovic
14. Ioannis Bourousis
15. Igor Rakocevic
16. Lior Eliyahu


Link doesn't work. And strangely enough that list is identical to the 2009 list.

Mel_13
06-30-2010, 06:33 PM
2010 vote you idiot.

Headline:


Pau Gasol Named 2009 FIBA Player of the Year

http://www.basketballinspain.com/pau-gasol-named-2009-fiba-player-of-the-year.html

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-30-2010, 06:37 PM
Link doesn't work. And strangely enough that list is identical to the 2009 list.

That is the 2010 list. Mel_13 is an idiot.

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-30-2010, 06:38 PM
BTW the contract is actually for €14.532 million euros ($17.8 million)

:downspin::downspin::downspin::downspin::downspin: :downspin:

Agloco
06-30-2010, 06:44 PM
That is the 2010 list. Mel_13 is an idiot.


Headline:


Pau Gasol Named 2009 FIBA Player of the Year

http://www.basketballinspain.com/pau-gasol-named-2009-fiba-player-of-the-year.html

:lol

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-30-2010, 06:53 PM
:lol

That is the 2010 list.

The 2010 award is for the previous year. The 2009 award is for the previous year.

The 2010 award is the one for 2009.




The 2010 award will be given in 2011 because it is for 2011.

ChumpDumper
06-30-2010, 07:22 PM
FIBA Europe

Best European players in the world

1. Pau

2. Dirk

3. Spanoulis


This is the official list according to FIBA. All their panel of hall of fame players and coaches voted on it and includes all the NBA hall of fame guys.

http://www.basketballinspain.com/pau-gasol-named-2009-fiba-player-of-the-year.htmlSo it's the best FIBA Europe players.

I can see that. He was still horrible in the NBA.

There is no NBA Hall of Fame.

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-30-2010, 07:56 PM
So it's the best FIBA Europe players.

I can see that. He was still horrible in the NBA.

There is no NBA Hall of Fame.

It is not for FIBA Europe. It is for best European player in the world including NBA players. It has nothing to do with FIBA Europe.

It is for best EUROPEAN PLAYER in the world. In fact if it was for FIBA Europe then Dirk does not even qualify to be even nominated.



The NBA players that are in the hall of fame.

Spursfan092120
06-30-2010, 08:51 PM
That is the 2010 list. Mel_13 is an idiot.
So if it's a 2010 list, how the hell does it include NBA Hall of Famers?

redzero
06-30-2010, 08:52 PM
Yet he will make more than any NBA player in Europe. Childress, Nachbar, Kleiza, Giricek, etc. many such players that were 6th men or starters on NBA playoff teams and Spanoulis will make more than them.

Who? Oh wait--Childress was that guy with the afro. Amazing competition.

BullsDynasty
06-30-2010, 08:54 PM
They were all 6th men on NBA playoff teams. Giricek even started on playoff teams in the NBA.

I guess you do not know what "scrub" means. Don't even know who Giricek is?

You are probably 12.

Their still scrubs hence their former NBA teams let them walk to Europe....

Spursfan092120
06-30-2010, 08:56 PM
It is not for FIBA Europe. It is for best European player in the world including NBA players. It has nothing to do with FIBA Europe.

It is for best EUROPEAN PLAYER in the world. In fact if it was for FIBA Europe then Dirk does not even qualify to be even nominated.



The NBA players that are in the hall of fame.
Sooo....Pau Gasol is better than Dirk? In what world? And Teodosic and Lorbek are better than Tony Parker? A championship series MVP in the biggest basketball league in the world? This list is disgraceful.

Kevin Durant 35
06-30-2010, 11:11 PM
How many "scrubs" earn $17.8 million?

T-Mac earns more.

ChumpDumper
06-30-2010, 11:52 PM
It is not for FIBA Europe. It is for best European player in the world including NBA players. It has nothing to do with FIBA Europe.

It is for best EUROPEAN PLAYER in the world. In fact if it was for FIBA Europe then Dirk does not even qualify to be even nominated.Headline: Pau Gasol Named 2009 FIBA Player of the Year

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-30-2010, 11:52 PM
T-Mac earns more.

Nope. He will be lucky to get NBA veteran minimum.

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-30-2010, 11:53 PM
Headline: Pau Gasol Named 2009 FIBA Player of the Year

Are you retarded? The award has NOTHING to do with FIBA Europe you moron.

The Franchise
07-01-2010, 12:12 AM
http://pbjclibrary.state.ar.us/mural2r.JPG
:wow

ChumpDumper
07-01-2010, 12:13 AM
Are you retarded? The award has NOTHING to do with FIBA Europe you moron.Except the award is for European FIBA players.

Who play in FIBA Europe.

Because they are European.

And in FIBA.

Kill_Bill_Pana
07-01-2010, 12:17 AM
Except the award is for European FIBA players.

Who play in FIBA Europe.

Because they are European.

And in FIBA.


No you stupid retard. It is NOT for that at all. It has NOTHING to do with playing in FIBA you jack ass.

Dirk has not even played in FIBA you fucking idiot. How the fuck did he get votes when he did not even play in FIBA is it is for that? Damn you are a moron.

ChumpDumper
07-01-2010, 12:19 AM
Headline: Pau Gasol Named 2009 FIBA Player of the YearAnd everyone on the list is European.

What is the list for if not European FIBA players?

ChumpDumper
07-01-2010, 12:22 AM
Dirk has not even played in FIBA you fucking idiot.Sure he has.

You didn't know that?

Do you know what FIBA is, KBP?

Kill_Bill_Pana
07-01-2010, 12:23 AM
And everyone on the list is European.

What is the list for if not European FIBA players?

Are you seriously retarded or what?

How many times do I have to explain it for you?

The award is to name the best European basketball player on planet Earth. That is what the award is for. It has NOTHING in hell to do with playing in FIBA.

Which is how players that did not even play in FIBA at all were on the list. If you had basic reasoning skills you could figure that out yourself.

ChumpDumper
07-01-2010, 12:23 AM
Again, with feeling.
Headline: Pau Gasol Named 2009 FIBA Player of the YearWhy is the word FIBA in the award?

Why does it not say European Earth Player of the Year Award?

Kill_Bill_Pana
07-01-2010, 12:27 AM
Again, with feeling.Why is the word FIBA in the award?

Why does it not say European Earth Player of the Year Award?



WTF is wrong with you?


Do you not even fucking know what FIBA is?

FIBA is the world head government of basketball. Even the NBA is under it you dumb ass.

Mel_13
07-01-2010, 12:28 AM
Again, with feeling.Why is the word FIBA in the award?

Why does it not say European Earth Player of the Year Award?

With feeling.

:lmao

ChumpDumper
07-01-2010, 12:28 AM
WTF is wrong with you?


Do you not even fucking know what FIBA is?

FIBA is the world head government of basketball. Even the NBA is under it you dumb ass.So they are indeed FIBA players.

Thank you. :toast

Kill_Bill_Pana
07-01-2010, 12:30 AM
So if it's a 2010 list, how the hell does it include NBA Hall of Famers?

The voters you fool.

Kill_Bill_Pana
07-01-2010, 12:31 AM
So they are indeed FIBA players.

Thank you. :toast

No you fucking IDIOT

1. Pau Gasol
2. Dirk Nowitzki
3. Vassilis Spanoulis
4. Milos Teodosic
5. Erazem Lorbek
6. Rudy Fernandez
7. Juan Carlos Navarro
8. Tony Parker
9. Hedo Turkoglu
10. Ersan Ilyasova
11. Nikola Pekovic
12. Marcin Gortat
13. Novica Velickovic
14. Ioannis Bourousis
15. Igor Rakocevic
16. Lior Eliyahu

Neither Dirk nor Igor even played one single second of any FIBA basketball in the entire year of 2009.

So how the fuck can they be on an award that is based on playing in FIBA?

You are truly retarded and you have just proven it. This is proof that you are a RETARD.

ChumpDumper
07-01-2010, 12:32 AM
No you fucking IDIOT

1. Pau Gasol
2. Dirk Nowitzki
3. Vassilis Spanoulis
4. Milos Teodosic
5. Erazem Lorbek
6. Rudy Fernandez
7. Juan Carlos Navarro
8. Tony Parker
9. Hedo Turkoglu
10. Ersan Ilyasova
11. Nikola Pekovic
12. Marcin Gortat
13. Novica Velickovic
14. Ioannis Bourousis
15. Igor Rakocevic
16. Lior Eliyahu

Neither Dirk nor Igor even played one single second of any FIBA basketball in the entire year of 2009.

So how the fuck can they be on an award that is based on playing in FIBA?

You are truly retarded and you have just proven it. This is proof that you are a RETARD.You just said they played under FIBA.

They are FIBA players.

Thanks again. :toast

Kill_Bill_Pana
07-01-2010, 12:33 AM
You just said they played under FIBA.

Thanks again. :toast


That is it you go on permanent ignore forever.

ChumpDumper
07-01-2010, 12:34 AM
That is it you go on permanent ignore forever.:lol U mad?

manufan10
07-01-2010, 12:49 AM
:lol

This is pretty funny. I love KBP threads. :D

eisfeld
07-01-2010, 02:47 AM
I see... official FIBA award and you provide a link to basketballinspain.com?
That would be like linking to the official MVP award on basketballinnorthkorea.com

And btw. no way Billy gets that contract... with taxes, luxury tax etc. no team would want to take on that contract for a scrub.

Indazone
07-01-2010, 11:11 AM
:lol

This is pretty funny. I love KBP threads. :D

Chumpdumper got mad skillz