Johnson to accept Hawks max offer soon

[benefactor]

Joe Johnson will accept Hawks max offer soon, sources say
lol Knicks

[Mel_13]

lol knicks

lol hawks

[MiamiHeat]

lol
knicks are lucky if they even get Amare

[sefant77]

lol hawks

lol knicks (but dont know, Knicks wasting years and tons of picks for max JJ would be fun too)

lol Rashard Lewis being happy

[KidCongo]

more like lol hawks IMO

Knicks strikeout and look shit but whats different. The Hawks aren't going anywhere.

[ginobme]

That's a blessing in disguise for the Knicks

[thedong]

Lol spurstalk

[Amarelooms]

lol at the Hawks....thank God he's off the market. Cuban better not even think of a sign in trade for his punk ass with a ridiculously horrible contract

:elephant

[TDMVPDPOY]

this guy has done jackshit and gets another max contract, way overpaid for his services for what he brings to the court, i expect clowns who earn max money = franchise players who can get their teams deep into the playoffs, not first round fodder bs.

this is going to set the hawks backwards, al horfords contract is up next season anyway...they going to let him walk?

ps. whatever happen to that minority hawks shareowner who didnt wanna pay JJ that contract he receive from the hawks when there was a 20m downpayment for first year or someshit...that guy must be shittin himself if the hawks going to give this clown 120m

[Giuseppe]

That's a blessing in disguise for the Knicks

Yep, yep.

[redzero]

The Knicks won't grossly overpay Johnson, so this is good for them.

[Goran Dragic]

Yeah it's great for the Knicks. They're still gonna suck and they don't have their draft pick next year. Teams really covet being in the position they're in.

[timvp]

That's about double what he's worth but the Hawks were pretty much stuck. They let him walk and the return to mediocrity would have been hastened.

[redzero]

Yeah it's great for the Knicks. They're still gonna suck and they don't have their draft pick next year. Teams really covet being in the position they're in.

Or they could sign Johnson and have another Stephon Marbury on their hands.

And what Knicks fans wouldn't want another Stephon Marbury?

[Goran Dragic]

this guy has done jackshit and gets another max contract, way overpaid for his services for what he brings to the court, i expect clowns who earn max money = franchise players who can get their teams deep into the playoffs, not first round fodder bs.

4 consecutive AS games = jack shit?
2 straight 2nd round appearances = first round fodder?
Rashard Lewis, Jermaine Oneal = franchise players?

You've been watching too much anime brah

[Goran Dragic]

Or they could sign Johnson and have another Stephon Marbury on their hands.

And what Knicks fans wouldn't want another Stephon Marbury?


Well they have the cap room to get another two stars. It's not like when they maxed out their payroll to get Stephon Marbury and Penny Hardaway.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

New York is fucked. It doesn't look appealing at all anymore. Their best bet is Miller and Boozer now.

[Spurminator]

He has the best supporting cast of any of the big free agents and his team is still only slightly above average. A lot of that was bad coaching, but JJ is not a franchise player.

[Goran Dragic]

JJ is not a franchise player.


Neither is anyone in the NBA other than Lebron, Kobe and maybe Dwanye Wade. I guess that means no one besides those three should get max contracts.

[Giuseppe]

He couldn't even have a place on the Lakers. Who, who's he's going to replace 1-6? Nobody, that's who. And the chump would never agree to chump change so he'd have no place 7-15.

He's a loser in a winner's circle.

[Spurminator]

I didn't say he didn't deserve a max contract. That's the market. But he's not going to win you a Championship as your best player.

And there are a lot more than three franchise players.

[pauls931]

That's a blessing in disguise for the Knicks

Ditto, I can't believe how one playoff series bumped this guy into max salary talks. He's a good PG/SG, but not a Chris Paul or Deron Williams.

[Mel_13]

"Hey Joe Johnson - thanks for leading us to that 4-game 2nd round sweep when we lost by 20+ per game. Here's $119 million."

http://twitter.com/sportsguy33

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

"Hey Joe Johnson - thanks for leading us to that 4-game 2nd round sweep when we lost by 20+ per game. Here's $119 million."

http://twitter.com/sportsguy33

:lol:lol

[baseline bum]

The Knicks won't grossly overpay Johnson, so this is good for them.

Yeah, they'll grossly overpay Stoudemire or Boozer instead.

[Ashy Larry]

lol Rashard Lewis being happy


the worst contract in the league.

[mingus]

Holy Shit. someone was going to pay him this though, probably NY. His and Rashard's contract are ludacris.

[redzero]

Joe Johnson to sign a ridiculous deal with the Atlanta Hawks
By Kelly Dwyer

It's never a good sign when, a full week before a player is set to put pen to paper to ink his most recent contract, that a good portion of the NBA community regards that contract as the worst it has ever seen.
Not the worst trade, nor the worst draft selection. And we're not talking about considering Joe Johnson's(notes) new contract with the Atlanta Hawks (as first reported by Adrian Wojnarowski) as the worst contract we've ever seen a few years into the deal, or a few years after it expires in retrospect.
We're feeling this way, right now. On July 1, seven days before he even gets to sign the deal. Worst contract, ever.
It's that bad. Six years, and $119 million dollars for a player regarded as a second option at best on a great team. At best. Johnson will be 29 years of age to start this contract, 35 to end it, so Atlanta will get his one peak season (unless last year's run of over 21 points and a combined 9.5 rebounds/assists was the best we've seen), and then the downfall.
At about $20 million a year.
Bear in mind that Johnson achieved those stats by absolutely dominating the ball for the Hawks. Just owning it, for large stretches, forcing either a potential score or a potential assist to be added to his ledger just about every other time down court. All while playing huge minutes, 38 per game in fact; which was actually the lowest mark we've seen from Johnson since his second year in the league.
[Photos: See Joe Johnson's moves on the court]
It's just an astonishing deal, on so many levels. A good part of me thinks that — because his stats are so inflated by his ball dominance and big minutes — that Johnson will be worth about half of his yearly salary next year (next year!), so imagine how far he'll taper off by 2016? Johnson isn't the most athletic player we've seen, he isn't tricky enough with the ball to get to the line much (a shocking 3.5 free-throw attempts per game, criminal for someone who has the ball so much, and for so long), and this isn't someone who will age well.
On top of that, didn't we watch him age quite considerably in the playoffs last season? Johnson averaged 11.8 points per game in the second round, shooting a terrifying 29.5 percent along the way. He seemed nonplussed as ever as his Hawks fell out of the second round again, and for the second time in five years, he's chosen big offseason money over a chance at a championship.
The Hawks? They're the big boys, here. They're supposed to be smarter than this, and in spite of all the talk about how this team had no choice but to stick with the status quo and see what happened? Bollocks.
This man could be nearly half of your salary cap in a few years. We have no idea how the new collective bargaining agreement will shake out, but even under the ridiculous payroll runs of the last six or seven years, handing nearly $120 million to a 29-year-old who has yet to do anything more meaningful than dribble a lot and shoot a lot and look real tired in January? It boggles the mind.
Yes, you're backed into a corner, and you can't afford to let your best offensive player go without any proper sign-and-trade compensation. I understand that, but signing above what you originally hoped to pay only goes so far. There has to be a cutoff price, at some point, and paying Joe Johnson around $20 million in 2015-16 has to be that point. Hell, paying Joe Johnson $20 million in 2011-12 has to be that point.
This is just an absurd contract that, even if the Hawks ownership is banking on selling the team midway through Johnson's deal as has been rumored, cannot be justified or argued-for in any meaningful way.
There's just no way around it. Joe is a nice player who might get to shoot himself into yet another All-Star berth next season. If he's lucky, the year after that, even. Give it to him. Let the Hawks roll to the second round again, earning the ownership a few more gate receipts as they take yet another first-round series to seven games.
Doesn't matter. As it stands, this is the worst free-agent contract I have ever seen. Roll over Eddy Curry(notes), tell Jim McIlvaine the news.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Joe-Johnson-to-sign-a-ridiculous-deal-with-the-A?urn=nba,252877

[Shastafarian]

Chris Wallace thinks this is a reasonable offer. Hell, he'd even go as far as saying it's a steal but he has to run and wipe Rudy Gay's ass before them dingleberries start accumulating.

[baseline bum]

Allan Houston and Rashard Lewis were worse.

[benefactor]

Allan Houston and Rashard Lewis were worse.
Don't forget Arenas.

[Ashy Larry]

he would be stupid not to .......

[benefactor]

Done deal.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/2010-07-01-Gay-johnson-sign_N.htm

[Stump]

Crap, I like the Hawks. This just makes me want to vomit.

[Venti Quattro]

I guess they like to be swept every second round.

[spursfan1000]

Damn, stupid move my Hawks, atleast for their money situation.