Knicks and Amar'e Stoudemire are making progress on 5 year, max contract

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski WojYahooNBA

Knicks and Amar'e Stoudemire are making progress on 5 year, max contract, sources say. Framework of deal in place, talks continuing today.

[dickface]

? how do you "make progress" on a max deal. shouldn't this be a fairly simple negotiation?

"we'll give you a max contract"

"sold"

[spursfan1000]

lol knicks, thats all I have to say

[lurker]

It's gonna be funny if he ends up with the Knicks and Lebron ends up with the Nets.

[MiamiHeat]

no surprise

reunite with d'antoni, big bucks, away from PHX

[Basketballgirl25]

please Knicks do it, save the Nets from going after him and overpaying for him

[lefty]

Its Wojnarowski




Zero credibility

[ace3g]

WojYahooNBA

Knicks and Amar'e Stoudemire in serious talks on 5 year, max contract; Deal could come as soon as Friday. http://tinyurl.com/2d8yzp9

[ace3g]

WojYahooNBA

Knicks and Stoudemire working on 5-year deal worth nearly $100 million, sources say. Another team chasing Amar'e believes he's off board.

[Mel_13]

He no longer has the option of playing with Nash in Phoenix, next best place to put up STATS will be with d'Antoni in NY.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Knicks and Amar'e Stoudemire in serious talks on 5 year, max contract; Deal could come as soon as Friday. http://tinyurl.com/2d8yzp9


Knicks and Stoudemire working on 5-year deal worth nearly $100 million, sources say. Another team chasing Amar'e believes he's off board.

[JamStone]

With it all likely that the Knicks won't get guys like LeBron, Wade, or Joe Johnson on the wings, if the Knicks are able to acquire Amare, they should just try to re-sign David Lee and pick up a couple of stopgap perimeter players who might play well under D'Antoni like Luke Ridnour or Chris Douglas Roberts (if they can be had for cheap short-term deals, although with the way free agency is going they might want big longterm deals as well), and then when Eddy Curry's contract expires next year, go back at it with Carmelo and Tony Parker.

[IronMexican]

He no longer has the option of playing with Nash in Phoenix, next best place to put up STATS will be with d'Antoni in NY.

I can tell DoK hasn't read this post yet. I see 5 pages coming.

[Goran Dragic]

No I'm fairly used to Mel_13's stupid bullshit that makes Steve Nash out to be a god.

[IronMexican]

If Amare can get max, anyone can.

[Goran Dragic]

If Rudy Gay can get max, Amare can.

[Goran Dragic]

Btw IronMexican's obsession with me is a bit strange.

[Rooster Fish]

under the radar. CP3 is on his way to NY. stay tuned.

[Mel_13]

No I'm fairly used to Mel_13's stupid bullshit that makes Steve Nash out to be a god.

You've got me confused with someone else. I've never participated in any of those Nash debates.

My point here is that he would be in line for much more money right now if had not signed that extension. That's fairly obvious.

[Goran Dragic]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201002230OKC.html


If not for all the assists Nash dished from his couch in Phoenix, no fuckin way Amare scores 30 pounts in this^ game!

[IronMexican]

I'm just a very obsessive and dramatic person :faint

[Mel_13]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201002230OKC.html


If not for all the assists Nash dished from his couch in Phoenix, no fuckin way Amare scores 30 pounts in this^ game!

I'm not sure what your point is. You don't think Amare wanted to keep playing with Nash?

[Goran Dragic]

I'm not sure what your point is. You don't think Amare wanted to keep playing with Nash?


I think he did but I think Amare is still an AS caliber player who averages well over 20 PPG without Nash.

[Mel_13]

I think he did but I think Amare is still an AS caliber player who averages well over 20 PPG without Nash.

Where did I say he wasn't?

Just pointed out that by reuniting with D'antoni, he improves his chances for continued success.

[Mr Bones]

The Knicks wasted half a decade getting ready for 2010, and now their centerpiece is going to be a guy who doesn't play defense and couldn't win a title while surrounded by the best PG of this generation and a bunch of other very talented parts?? Un-fuckin-believable.

[Goran Dragic]

Meh it's more the money. Neither Phoenix nor Miami were willing to guarantee him 5 years, the last two years were based off how healthy he was the first 3. Amare basically threw D'antoni under the bus in 2008 and played a large role in him leaving Phoenix, D'antoni isn't the big reason why he chose NY.

[Mel_13]

Meh it's more the money. Neither Phoenix nor Miami were willing to guarantee him 5 years, the last two years were based off how healthy he was the first 3. Amare basically threw D'antoni under the bus in 2008 and played a large role in him leaving Phoenix, D'antoni isn't the big reason why he chose NY.

Agreed that dollars are his primary motivation. Once Sarver removed the possibility of a S&T and with it the possibility of a six year deal with 10.5% raises, the max he could get is five years with 8% raises. NY made a firm offer for the max and he took it.

I don't think anyone knows what Miami might have offered him. Bosh is clearly their first choice and Amare would never get a firm offer from Miami until Bosh had rejected them.

[Goran Dragic]

Miami had the same concerns Phoenix did, they weren't gonna guarantee him 5 years. NY was the only team willing to do so and he hopped on it immediately. He handled free agency with way more maturity than douche bags like Bosh or Lebron have.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

New York is going to stay pathetic for a very long time.

[Mr Bones]

How many times do GMs have to be reminded that you can't max out a defensive liability and build around that??? It NEVER works.

[JamStone]

What's New York's alternative? Sit on the cap space? They know LeBron, Wade, Bosh, and Johnson aren't signing with them. They're going to be pathetic regardless right? So sign a guy that can score 20 points a game and is a big name. I'm not saying the Knicks aren't screwed anyway. Sure they are. But what other choice do they have?

[Goran Dragic]

Knicks and Stoudemire agree to 5 year $100,000,000 contract.

Good luck Amare, you will be missed :depressed

[Muser]

Wow that's going to be weird seing him in a Knicks jersey.

[ducks]

unless you have league pass you will not see him much!

[Goran Dragic]

Yeah it'll be weird not seeing him in a Suns jersey, Idk which one outweighs the other my fanhood for Amare or hatred towards D'antoni.

[Goran Dragic]

Well the run & gun era is really over now in Phoenix. The two players left from the 2007 roster are Leandro Barbosa and Steve Nash, and Barbosa is as good as gone. I don't see any way Nash finishes his career on the Suns.

[Mel_13]

Well the run & gun era is really over now in Phoenix. The two players left from the 2007 roster are Leandro Barbosa and Steve Nash, and Barbosa is as good as gone. I don't see any way Nash finishes his career on the Suns.

Trade him to NY for Lee.

[Goran Dragic]

Trade him to NY for Lee.


Anyone but that overrated honky :lol

[Goran Dragic]

Is there a team worse at managing than the Suns? You get two games away from the finals, and you know the West will most likely get better, and the Lakers are set on 3-peating, and you let your main big guy walk... FOR NOTHING!!! They should of told that soft face faggot to kick rocks. Give Amare his contract... and waited until the dust settles. There are going to be tons of players that won't get ridiculous contracts and will have to settle, and that's when the Suns could have swooped in and gotten bargains.


This is what happens when you don't have a general manager. Securing Amare and waiting it out knowing there would be bargains left was the obvious thing to do.

[Basketballgirl25]

Did knicks really get Amare? last I read they were close, but it wasn't done yet.

[vicphoenix13]

Nash will not be going to the Knicks for a couple of reasons.
1. Sarver isn't going to let D'Antoni have his favorite point guard
2. When Nash does depart from Phoenix, why wouldn't he go to a championship contender? Teams like L.A., Dallas, and Cleveland (if LeBron stays) would be a better fit.

[Goran Dragic]

lol Galileo viewing thread, brace yourselves for something really fuckin stupid.

[MavDynasty]

im prepared

[MavDynasty]

basketballdyke25 is viewing too.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

basketballdyke25 is viewing too.

:lmao

[Goran Dragic]

basketballdyke25 is viewing too.


:lmao


EDIT: so is the Spurs/Yankees/mmgay fan

[dbreiden83080]

proof positive James Dolan is beyond stupid..

[Creation88]

he'll be done in 2 years anyway.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

proof positive James Dolan is beyond stupid..

Better then breaking the bank for Frye and Amir.

[Goran Dragic]

proof positive James Dolan is beyond stupid..


CROFL mmgay

[JamStone]

proof positive James Dolan is beyond stupid..

I'm reading similar comments. I just want to know from people with this sentiment what the Knicks should do.

They know LeBron, Wade, Bosh, and Joe Johnson aren't coming. They see Rudy Gay get a max contract. They see scrub big men like Gooden and Amir Johnson get sizable deals.

Giving Amare a max deal might be stupid, but what are their alternatives? Sit on the money?

[Goran Dragic]

Don't expect a reasonable answer to that Jamstone

[dbreiden83080]

I'm reading similar comments. I just want to know from people with this sentiment what the Knicks should do.

They know LeBron, Wade, Bosh, and Joe Johnson aren't coming. They see Rudy Gay get a max contract. They see scrub big men like Gooden and Amir Johnson get sizable deals.

Giving Amare a max deal might be stupid, but what are their alternatives? Sit on the money?

You're right they have a ton of cap space and they have to spend it somewhere to improve themselves, but they have to be kicking themselves if the realization is in that Amare is the best they are going to do. I don't need to highlight his limitations we all know what they are. He's not someone they can build around. They'll go from a 20 win team to a 35 win team if they are lucky..

But yes they have to spend the money somewhere. I mainly said that about Dolan because i live in NY and really hate Dolan. Dude gets bashed by the NY papers every week for one thing or another..

[ducks]

knicks will be better with amare
IF he rebounds 12-14 boards a night

he will get 16-20 points a night atleast
east he will only have to go up against howard

[pauls931]

He'll beast on the soft defenses out east.

[Blackjack]

I step closer, I guess:

Final Nail in Coffin for Suns (http://espn.go.com/blog/TrueHoop/post/_/id/17532/final-nail-in-coffin-for-suns-and-amare)

[Basketballgirl25]

:lmao


EDIT: so is the Spurs/Yankees/mmgay fan

talking about the Yankees? so you must be a Yankees fan as well:toast

[JamStone]

You're right they have a ton of cap space and they have to spend it somewhere to improve themselves, but they have to be kicking themselves if the realization is in that Amare is the best they are going to do. I don't need to highlight his limitations we all know what they are. He's not someone they can build around. They'll go from a 20 win team to a 35 win team if they are lucky..

But yes they have to spend the money somewhere. I mainly said that about Dolan because i live in NY and really hate Dolan. Dude gets bashed by the NY papers every week for one thing or another..

That's an honest response but it doesn't answer my question.

What alternative move could the Knicks make that wouldn't prove Dolan is "beyond stupid?"

The way I see it, if Amare is the best alternative, it doesn't prove Dolan is stupid. It proves the Knicks had no better alternative.

[ducks]

is boozer at 12 million better then amare at 20 million

[JamStone]

is boozer at 12 million better then amare at 20 million

Would Boozer accept $12 million a year?

[Goran Dragic]

I wouldn't take that scum sucking dog if he paid the Suns 12,000,000 a year to play for them.

[ducks]

boozer is worth 12 million a year

boozer might get more then that though with the heat
the heat have to get someone this year!
wade said he would love to play with boozer

[Goran Dragic]

Btw this could end up great for the Knicks, those counting them outa the Lebron sweepstakes are foolish. Right now they're the one option for him that already has a proven max player committed. Amare provides a pick and roll option way better than anything Lebron has ever had, and D'antoni provides awesome stat inflation. Taking the marquee free agent they could get immediately could prove very worthwhile for them.

[Goran Dragic]

That'd be cool IMO.....the best thing to watch would be Wade vs. Lebron where one has Bosh and the other has Amare.

[j.dizzle]

LOL is anyone in the West gonna do anything or do they like watching LA get to the finals year after year??

[Goran Dragic]

The Suns seem plenty content sending LA to the finals every year.

[redzero]

LOL is anyone in the West gonna do anything or do they like watching LA get to the finals year after year??

:wakeup

Meh, it's better than the Spurs doing it.

[HarlemHeat37]

The teams in the West can't really do anything..only Dallas and maybe Houston have the ability to make a big trade right now, we'll see what they do..it's tough to compete with collusion TBH..

[dbreiden83080]

That's an honest response but it doesn't answer my question.

What alternative move could the Knicks make that wouldn't prove Dolan is "beyond stupid?"

The way I see it, if Amare is the best alternative, it doesn't prove Dolan is stupid. It proves the Knicks had no better alternative.

This just goes over what i said. Yes Amare is the best option they might have left and yes IMO Dolan is beyond stupid for the way he has run the team since he has been in charge. He is one of the most arrogant and incompetant owners in all of sports. This guy let Isiah run the knicks like they were his own personal play-pen..

[TDMVPDPOY]

this is what i dont get with the knicks, theres been talk of them pullin Sign n trades scenarios...

the problem is which other team would take on there trash of players? just to help them land lebron, bosh or whoever they are targeting, doesnt make sense...

those fkn teams who look like they wont be competing for a playoff spot, why not just stay under the cap and play out the season and earn that $2m profit the league admin hands out from the luxury tax revenue?