Lol South America

[Brazil]

lol* Brazil
lol* Argentina

lol Uruguay last hope







* I know I know lol France

[Spurologist]

LMAO France

LMAO LMAO ITALY

[resistanze]

lol Italy.

[ffadicted]

lol North Korea

[Spurologist]

lol Kim Jung Il

[resistanze]

lol Argentina costing me $10
lol Maradona

[Brazil]

LMAO France

LMAO LMAO ITALY


lol Italy.

it's not about France or Italy it's about lol South America vs. lol Europe

[ffadicted]

it's not about France or Italy it's about lol South America vs. lol Europe

lol Capello

[resistanze]

it's not about France or Italy it's about lol South America vs. lol Europe

LOL South Europe

[usdane]

it's not about France or Italy it's about lol South America vs. lol Europe

Europe got this shit wrapped up. Holland will bitch slap Uruguay and they will play Spain or Germany for the chip.

Don't fuck with Europa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc56moy0poA

[Brazil]

LOL South Europe

France is South Europe and maybe Spain is North Europe ?

[resistanze]

France is South Europe and maybe Spain is North Europe ?
:lol

[lefty]

LMAO every team not winning the WC

[ElNono]

Clean sweep today

[Brazil]

so let's sum up

Brazil 5
Argentina 2
Uruguay 2

total 9

Italy 4
Germany 3
France 1
England 1

total 9

Uruguay last representant of South America, if logic is respected, Europe will add another one. 10>9

[ElNono]

If you look at the qualification spots though, South America did great overall.

That said, this could very well be the very first World Cup where an Euro teams wins it all outside of Europe.

[Spurologist]

LMAO Lippi

[ffadicted]

so let's sum up

Brazil 5
Argentina 2
Uruguay 2

total 9

Italy 4
Germany 3
France 1
England 1

total 9

Uruguay last representant of South America, if logic is respected, Europe will add another one. 10>9

Don't worry, we'll tie it up in 2014 ;)

[Goran Dragic]

lol someone with the moniker Brazil loling South America

[Brazil]

Don't worry, we'll tie it up in 2014 ;)

Outside France I will root for that as I'm living in Brazil, there 90% chance I'll be still there

[Brazil]

lol someone with the moniker Brazil loling South America

I'm french living in Brazil and it was an answer to a previous lol Europe thread

[urunobili]

CROFL Early celebration by Brazil

[Brazil]

CROFL Early celebration by Brazil

lol thinking Uruguay has a chance... :rolleyes

i'm kidding, I wish the best for Uruguay great nation of football and I said if logic is respected

[velik_m]

Hey, at least this time south america has a semifinalist - which is a step up from the last WC...

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

lol overrated chances

[DAF86]

lol Europeans braggin about the WC count beign tied/close when they're allowed to put three times as many participants as any other continent.

[resistanze]

lol Europeans braggin about the WC count beign tied/close when they're allowed to put three times as many participants as any other continent.

lol

[Brazil]

lol Europeans braggin about the WC count beign tied/close when they're allowed to put three times as many participants as any other continent.

hum so what ? you think if South America continent had the same number as Europe the outcome would be different ? You see another country outside Argentina and Brazil to win a WC nowadays ?

[sonic21]

lol Europeans braggin about the WC count beign tied/close when they're allowed to put three times as many participants as any other continent.

what kind of excuse is that? Only 5-6 teams can win in the begining of each WC .The numbers of teams allowed per continent won't change that.

[ElNono]

what kind of excuse is that? Only 5-6 teams can win in the begining of each WC .The numbers of teams allowed per continent won't change that.

lol France :lol

[sonic21]

^^indeed

[ElNono]

hum so what ? you think if South America continent had the same number as Europe the outcome would be different ? You see another country outside Argentina and Brazil to win a WC nowadays ?

Uruguay advanced further than those two. Can they win it all? It's a long shot, but don't forget that Uruguay had to go through some bullshit playoff to get to the cup in the first place.

[urunobili]

ESPN vomiting on South America...

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/columns/story/_/id/5354167/ce/us/europe-dominant-once-again?cc=3888&ver=global

[ffadicted]

lol 10 european sides disqualified already
lol 4 south american sides disqualified

Deduction: South America sucks

wuuuuuuuut

[Brazil]

lol 10 european sides disqualified already
lol 4 south american sides disqualified

Deduction: South America sucks

wuuuuuuuut

:lmao now this is a strong argument, you're right 10>4, Europe sucks

[ffadicted]

:lmao now this is a strong argument, you're right 10>4, Europe sucks

My point is neither sucks lol

[Brazil]

My point is neither sucks lol

so we agree :toast

[Muser]

lol that retard hater.

[DAF86]

hum so what ? you think if South America continent had the same number as Europe the outcome would be different ? You see another country outside Argentina and Brazil to win a WC nowadays ?


what kind of excuse is that? Only 5-6 teams can win in the begining of each WC .The numbers of teams allowed per continent won't change that.


Well, Uruguay is in the semis right now, who says they can't go all the way? In 90 minutes of football anything can happen. Look at Paraguay vs Spain, most people would say that Spain >>>>> Paraguay and yet they were 5 minutes away of going to penalty kicks ('cause in E.T. the score rarely changes), and if Paraguay wouldn't have missed its oportuinity of going in front with that penalty, things could have been a lot different. What if Spain-Switzerland would have been a knock out match instead of a group one? Everybody would been making fun of Spain right now. Things are incredible even in football right now, taking this into consideration having the most participants in a tournament helps a lot the chances of getting a champion of your continent.

One thing is for sure, Europe wouldn't be the continent that puts more teams in the latter stages of tournaments if they were able to put only one third of the participants that other continent puts.

[DAF86]

:lmao now this is a strong argument, you're right 10>4, Europe sucks

Nobody is saying Europe sucks, just that they aren't better than the rest of the World like some arrogant fucksitcks think.

[Brazil]

Nobody is saying Europe sucks, just that they aren't better than the rest of the World like some arrogant fucksitcks think.

look at my posts, I create this thread to respond to a previous lol Europe thread and I'm just pointing out the fact that Europe continent have 9 trophies and South America have also 9, if logic is respected after this WC Europe will take the lead thats all and in 2014 it would be a new tie.
I never say Europe is better than the rest of the world, so far for the football it's a tie between the two continents.

[ElNono]

look at my posts, I create this thread to respond to a previous lol Europe thread and I'm just pointing out the fact that Europe continent have 9 trophies and South America have also 9, if logic is respected after this WC Europe will take the lead thats all and in 2014 it would be a new tie.
I never say Europe is better than the rest of the world, so far for the football it's a tie between the two continents.

But the qualification seats are nowhere near being equally distributed, and that's also what's being pointed out. Would the titles be equally distributed if both America and Europe would have the same number of seats on every cup?
We don't know and there's no way to know. But it's also undeniable that more Euro teams had a shot at a WC than American teams ever will.

[DAF86]

look at my posts, I create this thread to respond to a previous lol Europe thread and I'm just pointing out the fact that Europe continent have 9 trophies and South America have also 9, if logic is respected after this WC Europe will take the lead thats all and in 2014 it would be a new tie.
I never say Europe is better than the rest of the world, so far for the football it's a tie between the two continents.

My comment wasn't directed to you.

[DAF86]

But the qualification seats are nowhere near being equally distributed, and that's also what's being pointed out. Would the titles be equally distributed if both America and Europe would have the same number of seats on every cup?
We don't know and there's no way to know. But it's also undeniable that more Euro teams had a shot at a WC than American teams ever will.

I don't think it would be fair to give the same amount of places to Europe and South America, for the simple fact that there are a lot more Europeans than South Americans in the world, so it's understandable that Europe has more places. What I do think it's that the difference shouldn't be so big.

[ElNono]

I don't think it would be fair to give the same amount of places to Europe and South America, for the simple fact that there are a lot more Europeans than South Americans in the world, so it's understandable that Europe has more places. What I do think it's that the difference shouldn't be so big.

And I agree, I was just pointing out that even though it looks like an even affair, when you look at the actual chances of teams from both continents to participate, it's nowhere near even.

I already stated that personally I find it harder to stomach that African teams get as many seats as they do. Sure, they also have more teams and federations than South America, but I don't think they're anywhere near as competitive.

[Brazil]

But the qualification seats are nowhere near being equally distributed, and that's also what's being pointed out. Would the titles be equally distributed if both America and Europe would have the same number of seats on every cup?
We don't know and there's no way to know. But it's also undeniable that more Euro teams had a shot at a WC than American teams ever will.

I disagree with that.
All in all there are 5 big nations: Uruguay, Argentina, Brazil, Italy and Germany.

Nevertheless we cannot say England and France don't deserve their titles (England is always there with strong teams and France is inconsistent as hell but had 2 exceptional generations 80's with Platini for 2 semi-finals and 00's with Zidane with one cup and one final), meanwhile Netherlands, Spain are strong candidate to get one cup someday, we can make a case about Portugal.

I don't see in South America 6 contenders like in Europe. Adding more America's teams won't change that, Mexico, Paraguay, Colombia, Chile... participated regularly to the WC but has never succeeded in being a real contender (maybe the Valderama generation)

[ElNono]

I disagree with that.
All in all there are 5 big nations: Uruguay, Argentina, Brazil, Italy and Germany.

Nevertheless we cannot say England and France don't deserve their titles (England is always there with strong teams and France is inconsistent as hell but had 2 exceptional generations 80's with Platini for 2 semi-finals and 00's with Zidane with one cup and one final), meanwhile Netherlands, Spain are strong candidate to get one cup someday, we can make a case about Portugal.

I don't see in South America 6 contenders like in Europe. Adding more America's teams won't change that, Mexico, Paraguay, Colombia, Chile... participated regularly to the WC but has never succeeded in being a real contender (maybe the Valderama generation)

When you have teams like Mexico beating France, or Slovakia eliminating Italy. Heck, even Slovenia beating the now trumpeted German team or Swiss beating Spain, you can't say that smaller teams have no impact whatsoever on the competition. They affect all sort of things, like seeding, even suspensions through yellow/red cards. I agree that there are certain, generally speaking, 'dominant' teams out there. But some smaller teams sometimes rise above too. Look at Croatia back in the Davor Suker days, or even this Uruguay team who still has a shot to win it all, and was incredibly close not to make it in the competition at all. Paraguay was either 1 penalty kick or 15 minutes from getting rid of Spain, who almost always makes the competition but it's the first time it reaches the top 4.

To me, it just can't be static. You really have to figure out a way to have truly the best of the best out there.

[DAF86]

The only way to secure the best team to win every WC is to play all vs all, no knock out stage, kinda like most countries leagues or like the South American qualification, with the knock out stage the best team can go home if they have a bad performance (or bad luck) in a given game. Of course this will never happen 'cause is very hard to organize and it takes out the excitment of a playoff game.

[ElNono]

The only way to secure the best team to win every WC is to play all vs all, no knock out stage, kinda like most countries leagues or like the South American qualification, with the knock out stage the best team can go home if they have a bad performance (or bad luck) in a given game. Of course this will never happen 'cause is very hard to organize and it takes out the excitment of a playoff game.

That's not what I'm talking about though. What I mean is that if a team like Ecuador right now is demonstrably better than a team like Algeria, then they should be part of the competition. Right now that doesn't really happen because of how the qualifying seats are distributed.

[Brazil]

That's not what I'm talking about though. What I mean is that if a team like Ecuador right now is demonstrably better than a team like Algeria, then they should be part of the competition. Right now that doesn't really happen because of how the qualifying seats are distributed.

I agree to an extent. In fact and by the way the real debate is not about the number of teams of Europe and South America, the debate is more why a team like Australia is present all the time when we know that a lot of non qualified euro or south american teams are much better, same goes for Africa and Asia. Nevertheless for football development it is important to have all parts of the world represented. I think the actual system is the best for the WC even if of course it can be improved, number of seats can be reviewed, we could imagine decreasing the quota of seats and organize a pre tournament...

[sefant77]

If you really want to compare cups won by southamerica or europe you should take into account if the cup was won in a 16, 24 or 32 team worldcup.

Nothing against Uruguay, but winning in the 50s comparing with a cup win in the 90s and later....

[ElNono]

I agree to an extent. In fact and by the way the real debate is not about the number of teams of Europe and South America, the debate is more why a team like Australia is present all the time when we know that a lot of non qualified euro or south american teams are much better, same goes for Africa and Asia. Nevertheless for football development it is important to have all parts of the world represented. I think the actual system is the best for the WC even if of course it can be improved, number of seats can be reviewed, we could imagine decreasing the quota of seats and organize a pre tournament...

You could talk me into that. A pre-WC tournament that distributes, say, 4 seats for those teams that squeaked out or lame regions/federations. I just despise the current Nazi regime of Blatter giving a thumbs up or down. Ultimately, we're here because Sepp wants the votes from Oceania and Africa. It's way more for political reasons than actual competitive reasons.

[ElNono]

If you really want to compare cups won by southamerica or europe you should take into account if the cup was won in a 16, 24 or 32 team worldcup.

Nothing against Uruguay, but winning in the 50s comparing with a cup win in the 90s and later....

It's really not that different. European teams won in Europe, South American teams won outside of Europe. We've been in that back and forth since the 30's, but Brazil being the only one breaking the mold just once, and Europe having a great chance to break the mold in this cup.

[Brazil]

You could talk me into that. A pre-WC tournament that distributes, say, 4 seats for those teams that squeaked out or lame regions/federations. I just despise the current Nazi regime of Blatter giving a thumbs up or down. Ultimately, we're here because Sepp wants the votes from Oceania and Africa. It's way more for political reasons than actual competitive reasons.

4 to 6 seats could be a fair number for this pre-WC with let's say from 12 to 18 teams. The big problem for that is the lack of calendar space, it would be a nightmare to organize it

[Brazil]

If you really want to compare cups won by southamerica or europe you should take into account if the cup was won in a 16, 24 or 32 team worldcup.

Nothing against Uruguay, but winning in the 50s comparing with a cup win in the 90s and later....

I've already said we shouldn't consider the 34 / 38 Italian wins in the totals.:king

BTW the 1950 win is way too much underated. Uruguay won it in Brazil this is not an anecdotic performance.

[Slo spurs fan]

LOL South America
LOL Italy

[lefty]

LOL South America
LOL Italy
this

[urunobili]

lol Uruguay pretending they had a shot at the final game

[Slo spurs fan]

lol Uruguay pretending they had a shot at the final game

????
They had great MF shot at the finals. I don¨t know are you serious or JK.:lol