Joe Legal vs Jose Illegal

[ducks]

Here is an example of why hiring illegal aliens is not economically productive for the State of az



You have 2 families…”Joe Legal” and “Jose Illegal”.

Both families have 2 parents, 2 children and live in az …
“Joe Legal” works in construction, has a Social Security Number, and makes $25.00 per hour with payroll taxes deducted….”Jose Illegal” also works in construction, has “NO” (legitimate) Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash “under the table”.

Joe Legal makes $25.00 per hour x 40 hours, which is $1000.00 per week, $52,000 per year. Take 30% away for state and federal taxes - Joe Legal now has $31,231.00

Jose Illegal makes $15.00 per hour x 40 hours, which is $600.00 per week, $31,200.00 per year - Jose Illegal pays no taxes….. Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00

Joe Legal pays Medical and Dental Insurance with limited Coverage of $1000.00 per month - $12,000.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $19,231.00

Jose Illegal has full Medical and Dental coverage through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal makes too much money is not eligible for Food Stamps or welfare. Joe Legal pays for food - $1,000.00 per month - $12,000.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $ 7,231.00

Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for Food Stamps and Welfare. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00

Joe Legal pays rent of $1,000.00 per month - $12,000.00 per year. Joe Legal is now in the hole… Minus (-) $4,769.00

Jose Illegal receives a $500 per month Federal rent subsidy. Jose Illegal pays rent - $500.00 per month - $6,000.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $25,200.00

Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part-time job after work.

Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

Joe Legal’s and Jose Illegal’s children both attend the same school. Joe Legal pays for his children’s lunches while Jose Illegal’s children get a government sponsored lunch.

Jose Illegal’s children have an after school ESL Program. Joe Legal’s children go home.

Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same Police and Fire Services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.

Don’t vote/support any politician that supports illegal Aliens

[ChumpDumper]

Cool chain email, bro.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Here is an example of why hiring illegal aliens is not economically productive for the State of az



You have 2 families…”Joe Legal” and “Jose Illegal”.

Both families have 2 parents, 2 children and live in az …
“Joe Legal” works in construction, has a Social Security Number, and makes $25.00 per hour with payroll taxes deducted….”Jose Illegal” also works in construction, has “NO” (legitimate) Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash “under the table”.

Joe Legal makes $25.00 per hour x 40 hours, which is $1000.00 per week, $52,000 per year. Take 30% away for state and federal taxes - Joe Legal now has $31,231.00

Jose Illegal makes $15.00 per hour x 40 hours, which is $600.00 per week, $31,200.00 per year - Jose Illegal pays no taxes….. Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00

Joe Legal pays Medical and Dental Insurance with limited Coverage of $1000.00 per month - $12,000.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $19,231.00

Jose Illegal has full Medical and Dental coverage through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal makes too much money is not eligible for Food Stamps or welfare. Joe Legal pays for food - $1,000.00 per month - $12,000.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $ 7,231.00

Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for Food Stamps and Welfare. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00

Joe Legal pays rent of $1,000.00 per month - $12,000.00 per year. Joe Legal is now in the hole… Minus (-) $4,769.00

Jose Illegal receives a $500 per month Federal rent subsidy. Jose Illegal pays rent - $500.00 per month - $6,000.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $25,200.00

Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part-time job after work.

Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

Joe Legal’s and Jose Illegal’s children both attend the same school. Joe Legal pays for his children’s lunches while Jose Illegal’s children get a government sponsored lunch.

Jose Illegal’s children have an after school ESL Program. Joe Legal’s children go home.

Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same Police and Fire Services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.

Don’t vote/support any politician that supports illegal Aliens

so let's tax jose and everybody wins..great example of how amnesty would work ducks!

[smeagol]

so let's tax jose and everybody wins..great example of how amnesty would work ducks!

:tu

[ducks]

cool chain email, bro.

link!

[ChumpDumper]

Jose already pays taxes.

[ChumpDumper]

link!http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4477518&postcount=1

[Blake]

Joe Legal pays Medical and Dental Insurance with limited Coverage of $1000.00 per month - $12,000.00 per year.

holy crap.

Joe Legal is an idiot.

[v2freak]

:tu

Personally I am not a huge fan of taxes but I do agree that taxing Jose Illegal would solve the dilemna

[Spurminator]

This explains why there are so many filthy rich illegals running around! They don't gotta pay for nothin!

[Wild Cobra]

Personally I am not a huge fan of taxes but I do agree that taxing Jose Illegal would solve the dilemna

Is there something that makes you think unethical employers and illegal workers will do it all right? This works for them, why should they start doing it right? It's not the law that makes them unethical.

[boutons_deux]

Many illegals have IRS tax numbers (is all you need to pay taxes, don't need a social security number), and pay Social Security they will never get back.

They are also paying interest on mortgages, cars, and city/state sales taxes, property taxes, and some have health insurance.

[rjv]

ducks did a great job of arguing for amnesty indeed. way to go ducks !

[ElNono]

Is there something that makes you think unethical employers and illegal workers will do it all right? This works for them, why should they start doing it right? It's not the law that makes them unethical.

They have an incentive on the immigration side.

[Wild Cobra]

They have an incentive on the immigration side.
That depends on their intent now, doesn't it?

[jack sommerset]

Joe Illegal needs to be deported.

[Wild Cobra]

Joe Illegal needs to be deported.
Either deport Joe Illegal, or revoke the citizen of one of the workers who wont do the job he's willing to do, and kick them out of this nation, and give the citizenship to him.

I'm willing to have a 1:1 exchange. One non-productive USA citizen for one illegal who is productive.

[boutons_deux]

"Joe Illegal needs to be deported"

ain't gonna happen 10M+ times, so jerk off to some other racist fantasy.

[jack sommerset]

"Joe Illegal needs to be deported"

ain't gonna happen 10M+ times, so jerk off to some other racist fantasy.

LOL@ racist fantasy. Deporting illegals is now racist! Silly troll.

[Wild Cobra]

LOL@ racist fantasy. Deporting illegals is now racist! Silly troll.
He's so stupid, he thinks only middle and south Americans are illegal. He doesn't realize we have illegal asians, whites, blacks, etc. also.

[boutons_deux]

I don't see AZ taking african/asian/euro studies out of the school curricula, only Hispanic studies.

Tell what %age of 11M illegals are not cent/south Americans?

[Wild Cobra]

I don't see AZ taking african/asian/euro studies out of the school curricula, only Hispanic studies.

Tell what %age of 11M illegals are not cent/south Americans?
Does it matter? You seem to ignore the facts that not all illegals fit a profile, yet you accuse discrimination.

Are you really that dumb?

[boutons_deux]

"You seem to ignore the facts"

You Lie, and you can't provide the facts "that don't matter"

[Wild Cobra]

"You seem to ignore the facts"

You Lie, and you can't provide the facts "that don't matter"

Haven't you said that enforcing immigration is racist?

[ducks]

"Joe Illegal needs to be deported"

ain't gonna happen 10M+ times, so jerk off to some other racist fantasy.

why should it not happen?

or do you think putting them 6 feet under would be better

[ducks]

I don't see AZ taking african/asian/euro studies out of the school curricula, only Hispanic studies.

Tell what %age of 11M illegals are not cent/south Americans?

do you know how many black people live in az?

I fix computers at a computer shop
I have fixed 2 different black peoples computers in 10 years

[panic giraffe]

do you know how many black people live in az?

I fix computers at a computer shop
I have fixed 2 different black peoples computers in 10 years

maybe they didn't fuck their's up with child porn like whitey did?

[TDMVPDPOY]

i thought comps withhold taxes if the employee doesnt supply a tax number, unless the comp is being dodgy by payin cash in hand which avoids them from payin health + other insurance and payroll tax...

[Johnson]

"Joe Illegal needs to be deported"

ain't gonna happen 10M+ times, so jerk off to some other racist fantasy.
it's not "racist" to be against illegal immigration
:bang

[ElNono]

That depends on their intent now, doesn't it?

How so?

[ducks]

maybe they didn't fuck their's up with child porn like whitey did?

I also go to the stores to buy things very very few BLACKS

[jack sommerset]

maybe they didn't fuck their's up with child porn like whitey did?

WTF!?!?

:lmao

[RoddyBukkake]

Jose Illegal must be 15 years old if he only has 2 kids