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Sdayi135
07-06-2010, 08:56 PM
Phoenix Suns seek return on Amar'e Stoudemire's move to New York Knicks

(http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/sports/articles/2010/07/05/20100705phoenix-suns-amare-stoudemire-plan.html)

The Suns still might be able to get something out of Amar'e Stoudemire's departure after all.


Even with Stoudemire agreeing to a five-year, $99.7 million deal with the New York Knicks, the Suns are working on being able to use Stoudemire's rights in a sign-and-trade deal with the Knicks for a trade exception or perhaps even free-agent power forward David Lee.


The Suns would do so by also executing a sign-and-trade deal with Chicago and Hakim Warrick, who finished last season with the Bulls.

The Suns agreed on a four-year, $18 meal with Warrick on Thursday night after Stoudemire had rejected the Suns' five-year, $96.6 million offer that included partial fourth- and fifth-year guarantees.




If the Suns do a sign-and-trade for Stoudemire first, they could receive a trade exception of up to about $17 million in return, unless a Lee contract is included. The Suns would then use part of that exception for the first $4 million year of Warrick's contract in a sign-and-trade with Chicago.



Chicago could benefit by getting a second-round draft pick from Phoenix, which might be able to get a second-round pick and a trade exception or Lee from New York. The Knicks benefit with a small bump in cap space by starting Stoudemire's contract at a lower first-year salary because the deal can have 10.5 percent raises via Phoenix rather than 8 percent raises if done by New York.




Otherwise, the Suns, after more than two years of considering trading Stoudemire, would see him leave for New York without any compensation, other than getting salary-cap relief and no longer being a luxury-tax-paying team.




"If we can do something to help Phoenix, we will," Stoudemire's agent, Happy Walters, said.



NBA free agents can't sign until Thursday.



The Suns also were rumored to be talking to Boston about trading Leandro Barbosa for Rasheed Wallace's contract until Wallace started reconsidering retirement plans. That could have led to a payroll-friendly contract buyout.



The Suns have talked to Cleveland about a deal that would send Barbosa there for Jamario Moon, whose contract expires in a year, and Delonte West, who can be bought out of his contract. Barbosa has two years and $14.7 million remaining on his deal.


Moving Barbosa could put Phoenix in a position to save $3.5 million this season and have more salary-cap space next summer, when Jason Richardson's contract expires, for a maximum-level free agent. However, after Carmelo Anthony, the 2011 free-agency pool won't be nearly as strong, and there is a strong chance of a lockout.

MiamiHeat
07-06-2010, 08:57 PM
lol knicks

"WTF? now we have to give up stuff?"

Zelophehad
07-06-2010, 09:02 PM
What do the Knicks have to gain by a sign and trade? Cash or a draft pick maybe?

Jeremy
07-06-2010, 09:13 PM
Already posted yesterday: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157941

Darthkiller
07-06-2010, 09:34 PM
eddie curry + lee imo

Giuseppe
07-06-2010, 09:58 PM
Gambo & Ash says it won't happen.

Gorilla Game
07-06-2010, 11:29 PM
Gambo & Ash says it won't happen.

They do have some very good connections inside the suns organization, so it's probably true.

Sarver's a cunt.

Blake
07-06-2010, 11:34 PM
The Suns agreed on a four-year, $18 meal with Warrick on Thursday night

good deal for the Suns

Jeremy
07-07-2010, 02:12 AM
Gambo & Ash says it won't happen.

Yeah, but then Coro comes out with yet another article tonight, "Phoenix Suns tracking David Lee 'for a while'": http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2010/07/06/20100706phoenix-suns-david-lee.html

Perhaps Coro is trying to get Sarver to do something? LOL.

Gorilla Game
07-07-2010, 03:37 AM
Yeah, but then Coro comes out with yet another article tonight, "Phoenix Suns tracking David Lee 'for a while'": http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2010/07/06/20100706phoenix-suns-david-lee.html

Perhaps Coro is trying to get Sarver to do something? LOL.

We can only hope someone gets through to that arrogant prick before more damage is done.

TDMVPDPOY
07-07-2010, 04:08 AM
doesnt make sense for the knicks man for a sign n trade, when amare is just a signature away being a knick...fck the suns,

the knicks can just trade sign n trade lee to somewhere else...