Vescey Speculates on Richard Jefferson

[tdunk21]

http://projectspurs.com/2010-articles/july/jefferson-with-the-spurs-for-five-more-years.html


Written by Jeff Garcia
Wednesday, 07 July 2010 08:53
According to the nydailynews.com, the San Antonio Spurs could have a deal to re-sign Richard Jefferson for five years:

Clearly, there’s a side deal in place to re-sign him ($45M over five years) that starts at $7M. That allows San Antonio to get under the luxury tax and save roughly $20M, the $8M lopped off his original deal (doubled) and the $3M-to-$4M the team figures to pocket from the equally divided loot paid by the teams over the luxury tax.

Got to like the Spurs getting some financial relief if this report is true but not liking five more years of Jefferson in a Spurs uniform.

[Cane]

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5 years.....please let there be a way for the Spurs to get out of that deal towards the end of the contract :downspin:

[benefactor]

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[Mel_13]

1. the San Antonio Spurs could have a deal

2. Peter Vescey

[timvp]

1. the San Antonio Spurs could have a deal

2. Peter Vescey

Exactly what I was going to post . . .

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_sports/wade_defection_afcdDaAa3U6jVREGqdhhPK/1

[Solid D]

He is a tradeable asset and a decent, if not good, wing player. If there is not a trade in the works, I would be interested in knowing what the trade clause(s) are in his new contract.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Exactly what I was going to post . . .

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_sports/wade_defection_afcdDaAa3U6jVREGqdhhPK/1


“Maybe they could pull a reverse Carlos Boozer and not re-sign him.”

:lol

[Seventyniner]

Vecsey can't even do basic math. The biggest raise a team could offer is 10.5% (re-signing own free agent). A 5-year deal starting at $7M would look like this:

Year 1: 7,000,000
Year 2: 7,735,000
Year 3: 8,470,000
Year 4: 9,205,000
Year 5: 9,940,000
Total: 42,350,000

[Danny.Zhu]

RJ could easily get much more than that.

Don't flatter yourself.

[ohmwrecker]

Does Peter Vescey have any credibility at all anymore?

[Blackjack]

1. the San Antonio Spurs could have a deal

2. Peter Vescey

Pertaining to No. 1, indeed

Pertaining to No. 2, LOL Peter Vescey (and I finally found a suitable place to LOL).

[Seventyniner]

5/45 for RJ is ridiculous. Unless it's another team offering it. Then I'm all for it as long as it's a sign-and-trade.

[bobby4germany]

Well I hope there is some truth to this because RJ is probably the best wing player the Spurs would be able to get. Plus if it is around 7 mil a year that would be a steal especially seeing how this free agent season is going!

[lurker23]

Easily? Doubt it. How many teams are going to be willing to dip into their cap space to offer a 30 year old past his athletic prime more than a 5 year 40+ million dollar deal?

All it takes is one. I'm still putting my money on him getting 4 years, $40 million.

[Seventyniner]

Well I hope there is some truth to this because RJ is probably the best wing player the Spurs would be able to get. Plus if it is around 7 mil a year that would be a steal especially seeing how this free agent season is going!

Now I agree with the 7 mil part somewhat; I'd take RJ for 3 years/$21M. However, RJ is going to want as many years as possible given the uncertainty concerning the new CBA.

Also, a contract starting at $7M and a contract averaging $7M get more different the more years you add.

[peacemaker885]

If LBJ stays with Cleveland, do you guys think this will make RJ more of a target for the Nets?

[coyotes_geek]

If year number 5 of that deal was a team option, i'd be okay with it.

[ElNono]

lmao Vescey

[Seventyniner]

If year number 5 of that deal was a team option, i'd be okay with it.

Wow...I'm surprised you say that. I think 5 years is definitely too many (unless the last one was fully unguaranteed or a team option), and I'd even balk at 4 unless the money was small enough ($30M or less).

[ElNono]

What's next? hoopsworld? EricB's 'sources'? :lmao

[Brazil]

What's next? hoopsworld? EricB's 'sources'? :lmao

I take the little birdie sources

[coyotes_geek]

Wow...I'm surprised you say that. I think 5 years is definitely too many (unless the last one was fully unguaranteed or a team option), and I'd even balk at 4 unless the money was small enough ($30M or less).

If it were possible for the Spurs to get Splitter without having to use their MLE on him then I'd feel differently. But, the situation is what it is. Even as a bad fit, RJ is still a legitimate NBA talent and last year the Spurs didn't have nearly enough legitimate NBA talent on the roster to compete for a championship.

S&T using RJ is still an option, but I don't think the odds of being able to land someone better than RJ are that good. If you're a team who has a better SF than RJ, you're not going to be interested in RJ. Plus, RJ has absolute veto power over all of this because he's got to want to go to whatever team you want to S&T him to.

[Solid D]

There are so many dominoes that could fall, or not fall, today and tomorrow. Who knows what results from just the Wade/Bosh decision to go to Miami? Who could really know at this stage just what the Spurs are posiitioned to do with regard to RJ? For example, if the Spurs are sitting there waiting on a Chicago or a NJ, everything changes or goes kerplop within a matter of hours.

[SenorSpur]

Does Peter Vescey have any credibility at all anymore?

Not sure he ever did.

[ducks]

bulls,knicks,nets could if left out offer boozer,rj, lee stupid money

[howbouthemspurs]

It sounds like a great deal to me!

[rjv]

i'm still waiting for tim to sign with orlando, according to vescey

[Blackjack]

I'm fine with this contract, so long as it's in a sign-and-trade. :D

[Bruno]

I hope Spurs will do a S&T with RJ because it's by far the best solution for them.

For example, Spurs could do a three team trade with Nets and Wizards where they would end with Humphries and Mike Miller.

[Solid D]

I hope Spurs will do a S&T with RJ because it's by far the best solution for them.

For example, Spurs could do a three team trade with Nets and Wizards where they would end with Humphries and Mike Miller.

While I agree with you that the S&T with RJ is the best solution, the initial teams the Spurs may have lined up to do this may disappear after tomorrow.

[EricB]

What's with the damn fascination with kris freaking humphries?!?

[DesignatedT]

Vescey is a joke.

[Blackjack]

What's with the damn fascination with kris freaking humphries?!?

It's about creating incentive for them to do a deal.

If you take back Humphries 1-year 3M it might be enough to get them to play ball and the Spurs could receive a trade exception for 4-5M instead the 7-8M they'd need if Humphries wasn't involved.

It's business, not fascination.

Edit: And in Bruno's scenario the Nets are just looking to shed his salary and the Spurs would use that as a means to land Miller.

[benefactor]

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2. Peter Vescey
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[SenorSpur]

I love the cap relief for the Spurs and if they are unable to facilitate a trade for a more suitable option, - even better. RJ is a good player. However the fact is, RJ just wasn't a good fit here. Perhaps he will be in his second season, but colour me skeptical.

[Blackjack]

I want RJ in Joyzee as much or more than anyone but it would seem like a less than ideal fit with Harris and Williams on the ball and a Big the caliber of Lopez on the roster.

Oh, well ... let's get that trade exception, shall we? :D

[texasqb2]

I don't understand any of you. Unless any of you are Peter Holt, why do you care how many years/money/how much luxury tax it costs us that we give to RJ. If he leaves we will have to replace him with an inferior player (unless Tiago doesn't come and we use MLE on SF, but even then). I only care about how good our team is during the Manu/Duncan era and next year is what matters the most. If you take into consideration that we got off the hook for the 15 million this year, it is if we signed him for a 4 year/30 million dollars which is not too bad.

[lefty]

Vescey is such a piece of shit

[iManu]

This is so awesome, because now he can use the Spurs to get a deal, instead of his agent!!! :D

[Blackjack]

I don't want to alarm you, lefty, but there seems to be a woman without the means for proper clothing seeking shelter in your sig.

Damn vagrants . . .

[baseline bum]

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[DPG21920]

Anyone who thinks it's ok to have rj for 4-5 years needs to have their head checked. I pray the spurs don't want that.

[objective]

Jefferson, based on his playoff performance and most of his regular season, might not even be worth the MLE for 3+ years.

Better to without him than with him.

[wut]

yeh I get a whole Steve Smith vibe from him.....

[J_Paco]

Jefferson, based on his playoff performance and most of his regular season, might not even be worth the MLE for 3+ years.

Better to without him than with him.

If Drew Gooden is worth the MLE to an NBA team, then sadly so is Richard Jefferson. I'm hopeful that someone that has cap-space (read: New Jersey) and hasn't made a splash in free-agency makes him a better offer.

I really don't want to see this guy in a Spurs jersey for the next 4 or 5 years.

[AFBlue]

Hopefully if it's the Nets they're willing to go S&T for a trade exception. A TE worth somewhere between $6-8M could be pretty useful.

[Obstructed_View]

With Bosh and Wade both going to the same team, there's going to be someone without a chair when the music stops, and that's good news for the Spurs if RJ's willing to do a sign and trade.

[elec99]

So it looks like the deal is loaded moreso on the backend of the 5 yrs if the starting year is 7 mil. Jefferson is a good deal at 7, dont know about 9 though.

There are many players that average 12ppg getting well over that. This makes his presence easier to bear with I guess. If all this is true, it's clear the spurs dont want to wait for the trade deadline when a 15mil contract in february "could" get you something.

[lotr1trekkie]

Resign Tony Parker for 5 years.

[lefty]

I don't want to alarm you, lefty, but there seems to be a woman without the means for proper clothing seeking shelter in your sig.

Damn vagrants . . .
:lol

She keeps knocking at my door, I keep telling to GTFO, but she always comes back for more :king