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honestfool84
07-10-2010, 03:08 AM
I always enjoy SpursTalk's honest critique.

Here are a few new shoots I have done recently. Please let me know what y'all think!

Thanks,
-David
http://davidteran.com/


http://davidteran.com/images/portfolio/eclipse.jpg

http://davidteran.com/images/portfolio/natalia4.jpg

* Taken with Android EVO 4G*
http://davidteran.com/images/portfolio/secretplace.jpg

http://davidteran.com/images/portfolio/skate.jpg

http://davidteran.com/images/portfolio/lauren.jpg

http://davidteran.com/images/portfolio/natalia3.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4121/4779531170_ff2a503845_b.jpg

http://davidteran.com/images/portfolio/isaiahmultiplesky.jpg

http://davidteran.com/images/portfolio/chris.jpg

http://davidteran.com/images/portfolio/floatingme.jpg

PS - mention SpursTalk and get a photoshoot for $150. :king

Smooth Criminal
07-10-2010, 03:47 AM
These are awesome

Slomo
07-10-2010, 04:39 AM
Technically you're getting better (and if I remember your earlier threads you were already quite good). I'm sort of missing creative unique shots (or at least failed attempt at such shots). I understand that when you're doing commercial work at the end of the day you have to hand out a likable photo to the client - and having the luxury to fall back on good technique helps a lot.It also pushes you towards cliches and mutes your creativity (and believe me there's nothing wrong with that - everybody does it and you do need to eat). But when/if you're shooting for your own pleasure
/portfolio you need to try and think outside the box. Forget all the good photos you've seen and have liked.

I like your photos and 90% of the photographers I know are not technically better than you are so I definitely see you as somebody who likes photography and has talent. You're good, why not go beyond that?

If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?



http://davidteran.com/images/portfolio/natalia4.jpg

Like her a lot, her expression, pose, don't like the background/surroundings of the picture.



http://davidteran.com/images/portfolio/floatingme.jpg
Hate it! Cliche Not sure is he walking on air or just hanged himself from a balcony...

Bender
07-10-2010, 10:21 AM
Like her a lot, her expression, pose, don't like the background/surroundings of the picture.
yes that was my first thought on the girl-cello pic. Background is too busy, behind her head especially.

apalisoc_9
07-10-2010, 10:56 AM
I always enjoy SpursTalk's honest critique.

Here are a few new shoots I have done recently. Please let me know what y'all think!

Thanks,
-David
http://davidteran.com/


http://davidteran.com/images/portfolio/eclipse.jpg

http://davidteran.com/images/portfolio/natalia4.jpg

* Taken with Android EVO 4G*
http://davidteran.com/images/portfolio/secretplace.jpg

http://davidteran.com/images/portfolio/skate.jpg

http://davidteran.com/images/portfolio/lauren.jpg

http://davidteran.com/images/portfolio/natalia3.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4121/4779531170_ff2a503845_b.jpg

http://davidteran.com/images/portfolio/isaiahmultiplesky.jpg

http://davidteran.com/images/portfolio/chris.jpg

http://davidteran.com/images/portfolio/floatingme.jpg

PS - mention SpursTalk and get a photoshoot for $150. :king

mang, thiz is so awzome. I luv pic wid gurl tennis

honestfool84
07-10-2010, 10:57 AM
Technically you're getting better (and if I remember your earlier threads you were already quite good). I'm sort of missing creative unique shots (or at least failed attempt at such shots). I understand that when you're doing commercial work at the end of the day you have to hand out a likable photo to the client - and having the luxury to fall back on good technique helps a lot.It also pushes you towards cliches and mutes your creativity (and believe me there's nothing wrong with that - everybody does it and you do need to eat). But when/if you're shooting for your own pleasure
/portfolio you need to try and think outside the box. Forget all the good photos you've seen and have liked.

I like your photos and 90% of the photographers I know are not technically better than you are so I definitely see you as somebody who likes photography and has talent. You're good, why not go beyond that?

thank you Slomo, i appreciate your critique. this is something that is always helpful, and i can use to get better, as well as see what i need to work out.

i'm the first to admit that i am the least creative person that i know of... ha! seriously, i do not feel creative at all. i know that that is a big downfall for me, but sometimes i feel that i don't "need" to be creative... that if i can be technically great, then the creative directors will just give me an idea and i'll shoot it perfectly, light it well (maybe even a little creatively?), and edit it the way they want (though pretty soon, when i can afford it, i'll send out my work to a professional retoucher).

i know that this is not good, and i need creativity... so that i something i NEED to work out.


If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?

i don't mind - i'm 20.





Like her a lot, her expression, pose, don't like the background/surroundings of the picture.



yes that was my first thought on the girl-cello pic. Background is too busy, behind her head especially.

i had been wanting to shoot at la cantera mall for the longest time, and i finally got a permit to shoot at 7am.. we actually did most of the shoot in a different section of the mall, and as we were packing away, i noticed the chair and put it in place and asked her to sit there. i love the pose and her expression, but i realize the busyness of the background.. especially her head.

we got a few images from this short shoot, and the image where she is sitting at a base of stairs was the best one, and i loved it... but i just think i liked her expression on this one best.

http://davidteran.com/images/portfolio/floatingme.jpg

Hate it! Cliche Not sure is he walking on air or just hanged himself from a balcony...


that's actually me..! haha. the idea is that he is just "floating" over the city? i guess my creativity does fail me when i try to use it. haha. this was more of a "test" shot, as it is the one and only time i've ever used a green screen. i just wanted to see how it worked, and try it out.



please keep the honesty coming!

honestfool84
07-10-2010, 11:02 AM
These are awesome


mang, thiz is so awzome. I luv pic wid gurl tennis



thank you! :toast

apalisoc_9
07-10-2010, 11:05 AM
thank you! :toast

Bat mang, me tinks bskutbal pic not gud like aders. nut as smoot

DesignatedT
07-10-2010, 11:11 AM
I like the Tennis ones the best :tu

PakiDan
07-10-2010, 11:19 AM
David,

you know.... something inside still isn't letting me believe that these shots are 100% yours... but if they are, my apologies, and my props cause this is some AWESOME stuff. I think way beyond your 20 yo shell.

apalisoc_9
07-10-2010, 11:22 AM
Shit mang, me wnt bang teniz gurl

honestfool84
07-10-2010, 11:24 AM
Shit mang, me wnt bang teniz gurl

ok, stop, thanks. she's my sister.

honestfool84
07-10-2010, 11:25 AM
I like the Tennis ones the best :tu

:tu


David,

you know.... something inside still isn't letting me believe that these shots are 100% yours... but if they are, my apologies, and my props cause this is some AWESOME stuff. I think way beyond your 20 yo shell.


:lol

thank you! yes, they are all 100% mine. we can still work together with yours sons like you've asked, and i can prove that they are mine. :downspin:


which ones don't you believe i took specifically? i can show you how i did it, and even show you all the images i took during the shoot. :D

apalisoc_9
07-10-2010, 11:26 AM
ok, stop, thanks. she's my sister.

Mang, im sory.

CuckingFunt
07-10-2010, 01:31 PM
i guess my creativity does fail me when i try to use it. haha. this was more of a "test" shot, as it is the one and only time i've ever used a green screen. i just wanted to see how it worked, and try it out.

Focus more on what you're trying to get your viewers to feel than what you're trying to get them to see. No matter how successful an image may be technically, an audience will never connect with the picture if it's not emotionally honest.

And also consider that every element within an image should be working together to tell a particular story or convey a particular meaning. Be thoughtful in your choices, because an engaged audience is likely going to be thoughtful in their consideration. "Guy floating over city" is a fairly general concept, and has technically been achieved within the image, but then take it further. Thoughtfully and deliberately. In looking at the image, I have questions about the position of the legs/feet (I, too, get the hanging corpse feeling there), as well as the use of the Hong Kong skyline. Based on the discussion of this image so far, I'm guessing you wouldn't have specific answers to those questions.

Even if viewers don't get your exact meaning or story out of the image, it should still be there. "I wanted to make it look like a guy was floating over the city" is kind of an empty concept, really, and there's nothing much beyond that for the viewer to engage with. Why is he floating? How does he feel about floating? What is the significance of the city? I think that's where you need to go next.

Sisk
07-10-2010, 01:49 PM
Shit mang, me wnt bang teniz gurl

:lmao

But really, these are very good. I remember you using the eclipse picture after the Suns swept the Spurs.

Impressive :toast

Slomo
07-10-2010, 02:22 PM
...

i'm the first to admit that i am the least creative person that i know of... ha! seriously, i do not feel creative at all. i know that that is a big downfall for me, but sometimes i feel that i don't "need" to be creative... that if i can be technically great, then the creative directors will just give me an idea and i'll shoot it perfectly, light it well (maybe even a little creatively?), and edit it the way they want (though pretty soon, when i can afford it, i'll send out my work to a professional retoucher).
...


Nothing wrong with good technique. If you suck technically you'll have a much harder time to get anywhere. For commercial assignments you can get away with the creative part if the rest works. You are right you do not always *need* to be creative. As it is you are already good - the problem is you want to be great :) (which btw is the only correct ambition)

I hate when a photo is blurry, badly framed and underexposed then it's art. You can not be a good photographer if you haven't mastered the technical aspect of your job.

Keep working on the lighting and have as much fun learning as you can.
Don't worry the creative part will strike you out of the blue and then you'll be in a good position to take advantage of it.

If I had an advice (and I hate giving and receiving advices on creativity) I would repeat the only advice that has ever helped me. Don't overthink it. You get an idea, do it, play with it, have fun with it and the see at the end if you think it's telling/showing your idea (and if you like it). Don't try to change a (good) simple idea into a masterpiece - overthinking will usually kill it.

Just keep at it.

Re-Animator
07-10-2010, 02:35 PM
For me...............the first one was a waste of film. all that darkness and a head in front of a light just seemed boring. Nothing to the imagination and your better than that.

The second one I didn't like the girl looks pissed off. and she's not playing the instrument. It looks like shes thinking "hurry the f__k up before a car comes by"

maybe a cat on the side watching her or a small child dropping a dollar in a hat would have been better.


The two blue ones look like you found them in the bottom of a U-haul box that was sitting in a parking lot since 1982. not sure what your doing maybe i missed the point. (if so sorry)

The fourth one seemed to look to much like an ad for Gatoraid maybe if the guy on the couch was knitting a sweater or dissecting a frog it would have been more interesting.

but you do have talent so I will give you an 8 1/2 out of 10

those are my takes, I will wait to see how you absorb them before I continue.

honestfool84
07-10-2010, 02:47 PM
Focus more on what you're trying to get your viewers to feel than what you're trying to get them to see. No matter how successful an image may be technically, an audience will never connect with the picture if it's not emotionally honest.

And also consider that every element within an image should be working together to tell a particular story or convey a particular meaning. Be thoughtful in your choices, because an engaged audience is likely going to be thoughtful in their consideration. "Guy floating over city" is a fairly general concept, and has technically been achieved within the image, but then take it further. Thoughtfully and deliberately. In looking at the image, I have questions about the position of the legs/feet (I, too, get the hanging corpse feeling there), as well as the use of the Hong Kong skyline. Based on the discussion of this image so far, I'm guessing you wouldn't have specific answers to those questions.

Even if viewers don't get your exact meaning or story out of the image, it should still be there. "I wanted to make it look like a guy was floating over the city" is kind of an empty concept, really, and there's nothing much beyond that for the viewer to engage with. Why is he floating? How does he feel about floating? What is the significance of the city? I think that's where you need to go next.


you really hit it on the spot, on what i need to improve one... or at least an aspect of my photography skills. :tu and thank you.

honestfool84
07-10-2010, 02:51 PM
Nothing wrong with good technique. If you suck technically you'll have a much harder time to get anywhere. For commercial assignments you can get away with the creative part if the rest works. You are right you do not always *need* to be creative. As it is you are already good - the problem is you want to be great :) (which btw is the only correct ambition)

I hate when a photo is blurry, badly framed and underexposed then it's art. You can not be a good photographer if you haven't mastered the technical aspect of your job.

Keep working on the lighting and have as much fun learning as you can.
Don't worry the creative part will strike you out of the blue and then you'll be in a good position to take advantage of it.

If I had an advice (and I hate giving and receiving advices on creativity) I would repeat the only advice that has ever helped me. Don't overthink it. You get an idea, do it, play with it, have fun with it and the see at the end if you think it's telling/showing your idea (and if you like it). Don't try to change a (good) simple idea into a masterpiece - overthinking will usually kill it.

Just keep at it.




thank you, Slomo. that's one thing i would love very much to develop, my own "vision" if you will, not just my own technical style. it's not easy, but hopefully with as much work as i've put into getting the framing, lighting, and focusing down, i can become better and more creative.



we'll see what all y'all think next time i ask for more critique. :D

Re-Animator
07-10-2010, 02:56 PM
Keep in mind I am coming from an artist perspective, As for your talent you can take good pics. and you have skills. But if i was to sell your work it would not be easy given the photos that are out there for sell already.

But if your just showing your different skills in picture taking then I really don't see anything to critique , maybe less lighting here, more lighting there.

Keep in mind I visit 3 photo-shop websites and two photograph websites on a daily basis.
and is a member of MOCA so my 2 cents is worthy of posting.


(also after that last post you probably know I am a member of horn tooters anonymous)

:smokin

U.S.A.F.
07-10-2010, 02:59 PM
If that is really your work then you must make a lot of money. who is your agent?

If you don't mind me asking. :toast

honestfool84
07-10-2010, 03:00 PM
For me...............the first one was a waste of film. all that darkness and a head in front of a light just seemed boring. Nothing to the imagination and your better than that.

The second one I didn't like the girl looks pissed off. and she's not playing the instrument. It looks like shes thinking "hurry the f__k up before a car comes by"

maybe a cat on the side watching her or a small child dropping a dollar in a hat would have been better.


The two blue ones look like you found them in the bottom of a U-haul box that was sitting in a parking lot since 1982. not sure what your doing maybe i missed the point. (if so sorry)

The fourth one seemed to look to much like an ad for Gatoraid maybe if the guy on the couch was knitting a sweater or dissecting a frog it would have been more interesting.

but you do have talent so I will give you an 8 1/2 out of 10

those are my takes, I will wait to see how you absorb them before I continue.


hahaha. thank you! this totally made my day. no offense taken - i loved this critique. it was a very entertaining take.


1. your computer screen probably isn't professionally calibrated... you most likely cannot see all the detail in the darkness - there actually is a lot of detail. printed largely on a canvas in my room (that's actually me in the picture), the detail can be seen fine, and it's not all just black darkness.


2. the second one isn't a professional model or anything.. and it was more of a sexy look that we were going for, not so much pissed off. the cat or child comments really threw me off and gave me a good :lol


3. don't be sorry about your opinion, i'm thankful for it. i was going for a little gritty look, yes, definitely. i was just swimming with my friend and we decided to take a few pictures...nothing set up or formal. that was actually taken with my cell phone.

4. i like Gatorade - if i could land a job with them, i'd be exceedingly happy. that's my goal someday, actually.


thank you for your time. :D

honestfool84
07-10-2010, 03:09 PM
If that is really your work then you must make a lot of money. who is your agent?

If you don't mind me asking. :toast


yes, this really is my work. :D :lol

and i don't have an agent or agency. :( i've been looking for a good one, but i feel i need to work quite a bit more on my portfolio before i send my work off to agencies.

here are screenshots of my image organizer program, with all the shots i've taken of these shoots... (except the two pictures of me - i usually always delete those RAW files when i'm done editing them)


http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/2098/screenshot20100710at302.png

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/8718/screenshot20100710at303.png

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/8508/laurenm.png

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8718/screenshot20100710at303.png

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/3739/screenshot20100710at304.png

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/8250/screenshot20100710at305.png

honestfool84
07-10-2010, 03:16 PM
Keep in mind I am coming from an artist perspective, As for your talent you can take good pics. and you have skills. But if i was to sell your work it would not be easy given the photos that are out there for sell already.

But if your just showing your different skills in picture taking then I really don't see anything to critique , maybe less lighting here, more lighting there.

Keep in mind I visit 3 photo-shop websites and two photograph websites on a daily basis.
and is a member of MOCA so my 2 cents is worthy of posting.


(also after that last post you probably know I am a member of horn tooters anonymous)

:smokin

thank you for your 2 cents, i honestly do appreciate it. :tu

deep down i had a little feeling you knew what you were talking about... but i wasn't so sure, so i didn't say anything. :lol

and MOCA, how do you become a member of that? i mean, any possible way to get a hookup through that?

circ
07-10-2010, 05:04 PM
It stinks!

http://ordable.com/img/lists/the-forgotten-prime-time-adult-animated-series/items/2010200945385jay_sherman_critic_1994.jpg

anybody else....?

PakiDan
07-10-2010, 06:11 PM
:tu




:lol

thank you! yes, they are all 100% mine. we can still work together with yours sons like you've asked, and i can prove that they are mine. :downspin:


which ones don't you believe i took specifically? i can show you how i did it, and even show you all the images i took during the shoot. :D

ok... I believe, I believe! ... and YES... we DO have to get those shots done~!

honestfool84
07-10-2010, 10:15 PM
ok... I believe, I believe! ... and YES... we DO have to get those shots done~!

sounds great. i leave for Canada July 22, so we can do it before then if you'd like, or when i get back, in August.

Stringer_Bell
07-11-2010, 12:42 AM
A few posters have alluded to it, but the emotional connection is what you're missing in the photos that don't involve the tennis star or dancer doing a hand stand. Everything LOOKS good, but the "timing" seems off and that's just something that comes with experience and taking more photographs I think. But yea, I haven't seen your other work but you know how to jazz it up and make it look good.

There was a photographer, did lots of wonderful stuff with B/W, named Henri Cartier-Bresson. His motto was "to master the instant." Just go around with a camera one day and try to capture an organic story, then see if you can make it jive with some of the spectacles you're doing professionally. It'll add a different element and keep you interested in your own work instead of dulling your senses as a photographer.

sabar
07-11-2010, 03:04 AM
Your subjects need to show some emotion instead of acting like they are getting their picture taken. Photo #2 is too busy.

Nice job, better than anything I could do.

The Reckoning
07-11-2010, 03:08 AM
# 2 would be awesome if she were in a ghosttown with tumbleweed. just my opinion though.

apalisoc_9
07-11-2010, 03:09 AM
why u poot mor pic teniz gurl? u teaszing me?..to bee onest, u'r vry good.

mouse
08-18-2010, 09:02 AM
Send in some of your work.

http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/crg/1862282554.html

Phenomanul
08-18-2010, 05:06 PM
The pictures are great... never can fault a photographer for giving us an insight into his/her perspective.

I too, love the tennis picture. Your sister is beautiful and has the tone and physique to make the night shots work. You probably shouldn't have posted her name on this forum though.

I also love the skyhue in the basketball photo...

:tu

honestfool84
08-18-2010, 05:23 PM
Send in some of your work.

http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/crg/1862282554.html

thanks, mouse! i think i'll do that.



The pictures are great... never can fault a photographer for giving us an insight into his/her perspective.

I too, love the tennis picture. Your sister is beautiful and has the tone and physique to make the night shots work. You probably shouldn't have posted her name on this forum though.

I also love the skyhue in the basketball photo...

:tu


thank you, i appreciate that. :) where did i post her name, though?

edit: nvm. :lol her name really isn't "Natalia" (as per the caption of the image... i am careful with that, and changed her name)

thanks, though!

honestfool84
08-18-2010, 05:29 PM
BTW, here are a few more pictures.. the first two were my "old style", and taking some of your comments into consideration (though to be honest, i had been struggling with this old style for a while, and i had been wanting to move away from it...), i have decided to change my style, just a tad bit.

enjoy, and critique again, please.


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4074/4784951345_28a405ff18_z.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4151/4842360279_becb5bb347_z.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4103/4837184530_f85abddeca_z.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4079/4886809175_02af8f7dbc_z.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4101/4897053576_9ccaef8ceb_z.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4075/4889688601_95a360f8fc_z.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4095/4880274840_eebdb54ec5_z.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4077/4880274846_7db6ff79fc_z.jpg

SequSpur
08-18-2010, 10:55 PM
dude, you took a pic of a dude's ass...wtf...

honestfool84
08-19-2010, 01:59 AM
Good stuff.

How much gear do you owe?

thanks. probably like $5,000..

when i have EVERYTHING i will want (not including studio), it'll probably be closer to $50,000 in just gear.


dude, you took a pic of a dude's ass...wtf...


i'm not gay if you're trying to make a pass at me...

G-Nob
08-19-2010, 06:18 AM
All of these photos look like overdone senior pictures. This entire thread stinks of self gratification

I do like how you cover it up with I just want your feedback. Why do you just say what you really want to say like "hey, lookie what I can do!"

G-Nob
08-19-2010, 06:18 AM
All of these photos look like overdone senior pictures. This entire thread stinks of self gratification.

I do like how you cover it up with I just want your feedback. Why dont you just say what you really want to say like "hey, lookie what I can do!"

Soul_Patch
08-19-2010, 09:21 AM
All of these photos look like overdone senior pictures. This entire thread stinks of self gratification.

I do like how you cover it up with I just want your feedback. Why dont you just say what you really want to say like "hey, lookie what I can do!"


In case you didnt get it the first two times.



I like it, looks very professional, like stuff you would see in a magazine.


I actually liked the swimming photos best for their artsy qualities. the others look very commercial, but that's a good thing.

honestfool84
08-19-2010, 12:01 PM
All of these photos look like overdone senior pictures. This entire thread stinks of self gratification.

I do like how you cover it up with I just want your feedback. Why dont you just say what you really want to say like "hey, lookie what I can do!"

:lol oh, well gee, thanks G-Nob. :wakeup


In case you didnt get it the first two times.



I like it, looks very professional, like stuff you would see in a magazine.


I actually liked the swimming photos best for their artsy qualities. the others look very commercial, but that's a good thing.


:king thanks! :tu i got it the first time, i just posted some new images. :)

Shelly
08-19-2010, 07:28 PM
I'm no photography expert by any means, but the first one with the soccer player, the girl looks too washed out. Love the B&W one, which are usually my favorite types of photos anyway. Keep it up!

honestfool84
08-22-2010, 11:22 PM
thanks Shelly! the soccer one isn't my favorite, either... i think i'm gonna take it off my website. :lol

honestfool84
08-22-2010, 11:24 PM
more:


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4138/4914799317_b8676e1203_z.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4097/4914799313_5f49515d25_z.jpg

honestfool84
08-22-2010, 11:26 PM
i post my pictures here because i appreciate the honest and blunt critique of strangers that i don't know - people that (hopefully) aren't worried about hurting my feelings.

if you don't like that i post the pictures here, i apologize.

mouse
08-23-2010, 01:12 AM
dude, you took a pic of a dude's ass...wtf...

would you rather see the crotch? ...wtf+1

:corn:

JMarkJohns
08-23-2010, 01:17 AM
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4097/4914799313_5f49515d25_z.jpg

Were you going for designer drowning? I love everything but the feel. I think her expression could be softer and less cold/stagnant. The idea is brilliant, and the pose is wonderful, but I can't help but think it's a crime scene drowning.

Maybe just me?

Great creativity, though. Love the colors, and, even if it seems to conflict with my drowning statements, the stillness of the shot.

mouse
08-23-2010, 01:28 AM
The photo can't be truly appreciated on your monitor. there is nothing better than having a glossy 8x10 in your hands. So keep that in mind when you critique.

also the photographer shows creativity, why this guy doesn't have a major marketing company paying him to do magazine ads is mind boggling. either he has the worst agent in San Antonio or his ignorant ass doesn't have an agent.

either way the worth mistake is not having enough talent but having it and letting it go to waste, my 2 cents.

JMarkJohns
08-23-2010, 01:33 AM
The photo can't be truly appreciated on your monitor. there is nothing better than having a glossy 8x10 in your hands. So keep that in mind when you critique.

True, but the glossy look won't bring life to her cold facial expression. That's my only critique. I love the look otherwise.

honestfool84
08-23-2010, 01:34 AM
Were you going for designer drowning? I love everything but the feel. I think her expression could be softer and less cold/stagnant. The idea is brilliant, and the pose is wonderful, but I can't help but think it's a crime scene drowning.

Maybe just me?

Great creativity, though. Love the colors, and, even if it seems to conflict with my drowning statements, the stillness of the shot.

designer drowning? :lol i don't understand...

i see what you mean on her expression, though. there are actually some softer faces, but this was my favorite that made the cut - just everything about it, the pose and dress: it was just my favorite.

i didn't really like the leg, but we had about 5 minutes to do this shoot, so i can't be picky with what i got..

honestfool84
08-23-2010, 01:37 AM
The photo can't be truly appreciated on your monitor. there is nothing better than having a glossy 8x10 in your hands. So keep that in mind when you critique.

+1. my favorite thing to do after a shoot like this is print a 20x30 to give to the model... just because it's an excuse to see my work physically, which is completely different.



also the photographer shows creativity, why this guy doesn't have a major marketing company paying him to do magazine ads is mind boggling. either he has the worst agent in San Antonio or his ignorant ass doesn't have an agent.

either way the worth mistake is not having enough talent but having it and letting it go to waste, my 2 cents.


:lol thanks.. it's the second: my "ignorant ass" doesn't have an agent, unfortunately. i don't know where to start, to be honest. everything i know, i've only learned by reading Google.

many people don't take a 20 year old seriously, though, and that's half the battle right there. i set up meetings, and once they see that i'm 20 (mind you, i dress professionally, and conduct myself in as professional a manner as possible during the meetings), things just go south, unfortunately.


i'm hoping that'll change soon, though..

i NEED an agent.

JMarkJohns
08-23-2010, 01:38 AM
designer drowning? :lol i don't understand...

i see what you mean on her expression, though. there are actually some softer faces, but this was my favorite that made the cut - just everything about it, the pose and dress: it was just my favorite.

i didn't really like the leg, but we had about 5 minutes to do this shoot, so i can't be picky with what i got..

Her cold facial expression creates a mood like she's drowned (to me, at least) while the rest of the look is very fashionable, hence designer drowning.

It could be the look people want. Everything else, leg included, is fantastic.

mouse
08-23-2010, 01:41 AM
http://photocontest.smithsonianmag.com/enter/

honestfool84
08-23-2010, 01:50 AM
http://photocontest.smithsonianmag.com/enter/

cool.. thanks for the heads up.

i submitted (what i think is) my best photo:


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3503/3770030980_b8b42d9574_z.jpg

Yellowstone
08-23-2010, 02:48 AM
For me...............the first one was a waste of film. all that darkness and a head in front of a light just seemed boring. Nothing to the imagination and your better than that.


I have to disagree with Re-Animator here. I feel the first one is the most poignant of them all.
The rest are very nice, but feel like regular photos taken to glamour shots.

http://davidteran.com/images/portfolio/eclipse.jpg


The right side of this photo has substance as well.

http://davidteran.com/images/portfolio/secretplace.jpg

honestfool84
08-23-2010, 11:15 AM
thanks!

stretch
08-23-2010, 11:27 AM
these blow ass

honestfool84
08-23-2010, 02:57 PM
these blow ass

:tu

grindmouse
08-31-2010, 04:48 PM
Photographer needed asap!


http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/crg/1928623931.html

mouse
09-18-2010, 02:27 AM
Another gig

http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/crg/1958329842.html