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TheNextGen
07-11-2010, 10:52 AM
in the Sidekick Hall of Fame.

Better then Ginobli (3 rings)?
Better then Scottie (6 rings)?

How bout Mchale and KG?

Since he has 2 mvps, i'll make that equivalent to 1 ring. I say he is still behind Ginobli...he would need to assist Wade with 2 more rings to tie Ginobli.

Am i right or should i not take his MVP's into consideration?

BadOdor
07-11-2010, 10:53 AM
lol at ginobili even ranking in the "side kick hallf of fame".

Mr.Bottomtooth
07-11-2010, 10:59 AM
#1. If the guy got enough attention about possibily being the best ever, why wouldn't he be the best among second options?

HarlemHeat37
07-11-2010, 11:03 AM
:lol Laker fan disguised as a Spurs fan..

TheMACHINE
07-11-2010, 11:08 AM
:lol Laker fan disguised as a Spurs fan..

MiamiHeat fan disguised as spurs fan pretending to live in New York. :lol

TheMACHINE
07-11-2010, 11:08 AM
in the Sidekick Hall of Fame.

Better then Ginobli (3 rings)?
Better then Scottie (6 rings)?

How bout Mchale and KG?

Since he has 2 mvps, i'll make that equivalent to 1 ring. I say he is still behind Ginobli...he would need to assist Wade with 2 more rings to tie Ginobli.

Am i right or should i not take his MVP's into consideration?

2 mvps has nothing to do with sidekicks...so to get to Ginobli's level..he would need to help Wade get 3.

Supergirl
07-11-2010, 11:13 AM
How about...
better than Paul Pierce (1 championship)?
better than Tim Duncan (4 championships)?
better than Kobe (6 championships)?

And the answer is, Lebron will be lucky to be as good as Paul Pierce.

HarlemHeat37
07-11-2010, 11:14 AM
:lol If you're going by championships, you're screwed..this Heat team will win at least 6, barring injuries..

TheMACHINE
07-11-2010, 11:15 AM
How about...
better than Paul Pierce (1 championship)?
better than Tim Duncan (4 championships)?
better than Kobe (6 championships)?

And the answer is, Lebron will be lucky to be as good as Paul Pierce.

you calling TD a side kick? BLASPHEMY!!!

TheManFromAcme
07-11-2010, 11:20 AM
:lol If you're going by championships, you're screwed..this Heat team will win at least 6, barring injuries..

:lol

TheNextGen
07-11-2010, 11:23 AM
lol at ginobili even ranking in the "side kick hallf of fame".

who are better sidekicks who arnt considered role players?

TheNextGen
07-11-2010, 11:26 AM
lol i forgot about Pau Gasol (2 rings)

HarlemHeat37
07-11-2010, 11:27 AM
TBH, I'm not going to be a hater, I'll give credit..Kobe is arguably the best sidekick of all-time, that's the standard that has been set..his work as a sidekick in 2001 and 2002 was elite..

Supergirl
07-11-2010, 11:28 AM
Oh, sorry, I didn't see the title of the OP...hmmm.

In that case:
as good as Scottie Pippen?
as good as Derek Fisher?
as good as Kevin Garnett?

and again, Lebron will be LUCKY to be as good as Kevin Garnett by this rubric.

TheNextGen
07-11-2010, 11:29 AM
TBH, I'm not going to be a hater, I'll give credit..Kobe is arguably the best sidekick of all-time, that's the standard that has been set..his work as a sidekick in 2001 and 2002 was elite..

i cant put Kobe in this list since he has proven to win a ring as the #1 guy twice.

Tony Parker is also off the list as is James Worthy.

Supergirl
07-11-2010, 11:29 AM
TBH, I'm not going to be a hater, I'll give credit..Kobe is arguably the best sidekick of all-time, that's the standard that has been set..his work as a sidekick in 2001 and 2002 was elite..

LOL at the idea that anyone believes Kobe is a sidekick.

Derek Fisher is the sidekick on the Lakers...Ron Artest was an elite sidekick this year...

HarlemHeat37
07-11-2010, 11:32 AM
Kobe wasn't a sidekick in 2000, 2001 and 2002?..

Fisher and Artest aren't even his sidekicks..stick to making your private poll threads, stop trying to talk basketball please..

TheNextGen
07-11-2010, 11:34 AM
Kobe wasn't a sidekick in 2000, 2001 and 2002?..

Fisher and Artest aren't even his sidekicks..stick to making your private poll threads, stop trying to talk basketball please..

yes he was...then he sent shaq packing to become the #1 guy. As what all SUPERSTARS who want greatness should do.

HarlemHeat37
07-11-2010, 11:37 AM
So you approve of snitching?..

Ashy Larry
07-11-2010, 11:49 AM
Kobe wasn't a sidekick in 2000, 2001 and 2002?..

Fisher and Artest aren't even his sidekicks..stick to making your private poll threads, stop trying to talk basketball please..

look at the WCF in 2001 .... sidekicks don't have that type of performance. Was Kobe option 2. I'd say so, but many times dude did take on the option one mantle when the Lakers couldn't go to the Fat Man for obvious reasons

BlackSwordsMan
07-11-2010, 11:50 AM
:lol If you're going by championships, you're screwed..this Heat team will win at least 6, barring injuries..

they'll be a lot of injuries
lotta torn assholes in los angeles

Cane
07-11-2010, 11:56 AM
Kobe wasn't a sidekick in 2000, 2001 and 2002?..

Fisher and Artest aren't even his sidekicks..stick to making your private poll threads, stop trying to talk basketball please..

Yup, Shaq beat him by a combined 22.7 PER in those 3 Championship runs. That much PER is what stars like Kobe averages, Shaq was a beast.

Now that I think about it, the Orlando Magic have one shitty history. Shaq left them for LA to lead a 3-peat as the most dominant big man in the modern NBA and then he joined the god damn Heat to get a 4th title. And now the Orlando fanbase is dealing with the newly formed Miami Thrice in their division :lol

MavDynasty
07-11-2010, 11:57 AM
Damn, that SuperGirl chick is an idiot.

sabar
07-11-2010, 11:57 AM
I'll let Bill Simmons take this one


Michael Jordan would have wanted to kick Dwyane Wade's butt every spring, not play with him. This should be mentioned every day for the rest of LeBron's career. It's also the kryptonite for any "Some day we'll remember LeBron James as the best basketball player ever" argument. We will not. Jordan and Russell were the greatest players of all time. Neither of them would have made the choice that LeBron did. That should tell you something.

HarlemHeat37
07-11-2010, 12:46 PM
Lebron isn't as good as Jordan, I agree..nobody is as good as Mike..

himat
07-11-2010, 12:54 PM
Kobe wasn't a sidekick in 2000, 2001 and 2002?..

Fisher and Artest aren't even his sidekicks..stick to making your private poll threads, stop trying to talk basketball please..

Yes, but he got even better and won as the man.

LBJ couldn't win as the man and ran. Spurstalk members you have had the honor of talking do the dumbest man alive who is aka HarlemHeat.

HarlemHeat37
07-11-2010, 01:13 PM
He won as the man because he got better, or because the Lakers got Gasol after Kobe tried to leave?..

SpursTalk voted for me:lol..if you consider me to be an idiot, then what does that make everybody else :lol..