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CosmicCowboy
07-11-2010, 01:12 PM
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First rig sails away over drilling ban
Lawmakers and experts fear loss is only the start of offshore exodus
By JENNIFER A. DLOUHY
WASHINGTON BUREAU
July 9, 2010, 8:28PM

WASHINGTON — Diamond Offshore announced Friday that its Ocean Endeavor drilling rig will leave the Gulf of Mexico and move to Egyptian waters immediately — making it the first to abandon the United States in the wake of the BP oil spill and a ban on deep-water drilling.

And the Ocean Endeavor's exodus probably won't be the last, according to oil industry officials and Gulf Coast leaders who warn that other companies eager to find work for the now-idled rigs are considering moving them outside the U.S.

Devon Energy Corp. had been leasing the Endeavor to drill in the same region of the Gulf as BP's leaking Macondo well, which has been gushing crude since a lethal blowout April 20.

But Diamond announced Friday it will lease the rig through June 30, 2011, to Cairo-based Burullus Gas Co., which plans to send the Endeavor to Egyptian waters immediately.

Devon is one of three companies that has cited the deep-water drilling ban in trying to ease out of contracts to lease Diamond rigs. Diamond, a drilling company, said it expects to make about $100 million from the deal, including a $31 million early termination fee it recovered from Devon.

Larry Dickerson, CEO of Houston-based Diamond, signaled that other of his company's rigs could be relocated, too.

"As a result of the uncertainties surrounding the offshore drilling moratorium, we are actively seeking international opportunities to keep our rigs fully employed," Dickerson said. "We greatly regret the loss of U.S. jobs that will result from this rig relocation."

It was unclear how many U.S. jobs could leave with the Ocean Endeavor, but typically more than 100 workers are on the rig at any given time, doing everything from drilling to cooking meals. Onshore, a network of businesses supplies the rigs with groceries, equipment, uniforms and drilling materials.

"It's not unusual for an energy service company to have 1,000 vendors that they buy from or purchase services from," noted Rep. Kevin Brady, R-The Woodlands. As a result, Brady said, the economic damage from the moratorium stretches far and wide.

Brady and other oil-patch lawmakers have been pressing President Barack Obama to end the six-month moratorium he imposed on 33 deep-water projects May 27 after the explosion of the Deepwater Horizon rig that was drilling a well for BP.

Obama said the ban was needed to allow time for new safety standards to be implemented and a commission to investigate the cause of the April 20 blowout at BP's Macondo well.

Although the administration on Thursday lost its second bid to keep the ban in place while it appeals a federal court's decision to strike down the moratorium, federal regulators plan to try again with a revised version soon.

Dan Pickering, a financial analyst with Tudor, Pickering Holt & Co. Securities, said the legal uncertainties surrounding the ban - and the administration's plan to issue a new, revised moratorium - ensure that no companies will resume deep-water drilling in U.S. waters anytime soon.

"Are you really going to spend $5 million … getting ready to drill a well that someone would then probably block you from drilling?" Pickering said.
Lawmakers complain

Pickering added that prospects are high that a dozen rigs ultimately could leave the Gulf of Mexico because of the ban.

Brady said the rig owners are searching for revenue - even if it means relocating to get it.

"There are two types of rigs in the deep-water Gulf today: those that are leaving the country and those that want to, because with this moratorium hanging over their heads, they simply can't go back to work," Brady said. "I'm afraid this is the first of many rigs and many American jobs to leave the Gulf."

Once the rigs relocate, it could be a minimum of five to 10 years before they return, predicted Rep. Pete Olson, R-Sugar Land.

"We cannot afford to lose these jobs or the energy they provide," Olson said. "President Obama should allow this moratorium to remain lifted and let Americans get back to work."

During trading Friday, Diamond Offshore stock fell 86 cents - or 1.32 percent - to close at $64.40. It has fallen 29 percent from its closing price of $91.20 on April 20, the day the Deepwater Horizon exploded.

boutons_deux
07-11-2010, 01:46 PM
The oilcos have nobody but to blame but themselves.

The hearings exposed them as cheaters on human safety, pollution, oil spill tactics, while pocketing 10s of $Bs in PROFITS every year. They have clearly figured fines, deaths, pollution are just a cost of doing business, just like BigPharma figures deaths and maiming of their clients and fines are just a cost of doing business.

sympathy for oilman jobs lost? How many 1000s of jobs have been lost on the Gulf Coast because their employers are negligent, greedy fucks?

balli
07-11-2010, 01:51 PM
Good. Hopefully there's an all out exodus and you can spend twice as much to fill up your trucks and fleet of ATVs, CC. That, or start taking out the electronic golf carts you maliciously leeched from federal taxpayers in the name of selfishly and purposefully exploiting an unintentional loophole.

CosmicCowboy
07-11-2010, 01:58 PM
Good. Hopefully there's an all out exodus and you can spend twice as much to fill up your trucks and fleet of ATVs, CC. That, or start taking out the electronic golf carts you maliciously leeched from federal taxpayers in the name of selfishly and purposefully exploiting an unintentional loophole.

Do I detect a little class envy? :lmao

balli
07-11-2010, 02:01 PM
I don't envy piles of shit encased in sacks of barely human skin. See, unlike you, some of us don't worship money and ourselves.

CosmicCowboy
07-11-2010, 02:01 PM
The oilcos have nobody but to blame but themselves.

The hearings exposed them as cheaters on human safety, pollution, oil spill tactics, while pocketing 10s of $Bs in PROFITS every year. They have clearly figured fines, deaths, pollution are just a cost of doing business, just like BigPharma figures deaths and maiming of their clients and fines are just a cost of doing business.

sympathy for oilman jobs lost? How many 1000s of jobs have been lost on the Gulf Coast because their employers are negligent, greedy fucks?

The oil companies will still deep ocean drill. They will still hire people, produce oil, and make those *gasp* PROFITS you find so abhorrent.

They just won't do it here and tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of Americans will soon be unemployed, lose their houses, etc. not because of anything they did, but rather something the US Government did to them.

CosmicCowboy
07-11-2010, 02:12 PM
I don't envy piles of shit encased in sacks of barely human skin. See, unlike you, some of us don't worship money and ourselves.

:lmao

You are hilarious.

SnakeBoy
07-11-2010, 02:45 PM
I don't envy piles of shit encased in sacks of barely human skin. See, unlike you, some of us don't worship money and ourselves.

What religion are you?

balli
07-11-2010, 03:05 PM
What religion are you?

Um... I believe in things other than the so-called prosperity gospel and/or trying to belittle people who I blindly assume are in a lower socio-economic strata than myself.

CosmicCowboy
07-11-2010, 03:17 PM
Um... I believe in things other than the so-called prosperity gospel and/or trying to belittle people who I blindly assume are in a lower socio-economic strata than myself.

Translation:

I don't know what I think about religion and I still live with my parents.

balli
07-11-2010, 03:36 PM
Whatever. You don't know a fucking thing about me cc. I know more about and have invested more in my Christianity than you have in whatever self-entitled bullshit you subscribe to. And I don't live with my parents. And I'm college educated and get paid accordingly. And yes, I come from vast family wealth. And yes, I could, like you do on the regular, lay out a long list of nice things I own. And like you, on the regular, could lay out a long list of reasons why I think I deserve even more. But I won't, because unlike you, I don't measure myself or my worth (or other peoples') by the size of my paycheck or inheritance.

Translation:

I'm not an greedy, soulless, entitled, prideful sack of shit.

balli
07-11-2010, 03:45 PM
But go ahead: keep trying to discount what a shitty human and American you are by letting everyone know you make more cash than I do. It's so big of you and so fundamentally counter-productive to what you're trying to accomplish for your lowly ass, shitkickin' wanna-be elitist self.

ChumpDumper
07-11-2010, 03:46 PM
Wow. 12 rigs might leave?

Could you point out which ones on this map?

http://coto2.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/gulf_of_mexico_oil_platorms.jpg

CosmicCowboy
07-11-2010, 03:50 PM
Wow. 12 rigs might leave?

Could you point out which ones on this map?

http://coto2.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/gulf_of_mexico_oil_platorms.jpg

I presume you know the difference between a DRILLING rig and a PRODUCTION rig don't you?

I do.

spursncowboys
07-11-2010, 03:53 PM
Your lucky if chump knows what rig means.

CosmicCowboy
07-11-2010, 03:53 PM
Whatever. You don't know a fucking thing about me cc. I know more about and have invested more in my Christianity than you have in whatever self-entitled bullshit you subscribe to. And I don't live with my parents. And I'm college educated and get paid accordingly. And yes, I come from vast family wealth. And yes, I could, like you do on the regular, lay out a long list of nice things I own. And like you, on the regular, could lay out a long list of reasons why I think I deserve even more. But I won't, because unlike you, I don't measure myself or my worth (or other peoples') by the size of my paycheck or inheritance.

Translation:

I'm not an greedy, soulless, entitled, prideful sack of shit.

So take THAT, BITCH!

http://www.stripersonline.com/surftalk/attachment.php?attachmentid=303557&d=1259804023

spursncowboys
07-11-2010, 03:57 PM
Whatever. You don't know a fucking thing about me cc. I know more about and have invested more in my Christianity than you have in whatever self-entitled bullshit you subscribe to. And I don't live with my parents. And I'm college educated and get paid accordingly. And yes, I come from vast family wealth. And yes, I could, like you do on the regular, lay out a long list of nice things I own. And like you, on the regular, could lay out a long list of reasons why I think I deserve even more. But I won't, because unlike you, I don't measure myself or my worth (or other peoples') by the size of my paycheck or inheritance.

Translation:

I'm not an greedy, soulless, entitled, prideful sack of shit.
how much of your nice things do you give away?

ChumpDumper
07-11-2010, 04:06 PM
I presume you know the difference between a DRILLING rig and a PRODUCTION rig don't you?

I do.So these drilling rigs aren't even producing?

Wow.

It's even less bad in that case.

Surely you know how much of a decrease this will cause in the worldwide production of oil.

Tell us.

MannyIsGod
07-11-2010, 04:18 PM
Is the rig larger than the Superdome?

Nbadan
07-11-2010, 07:30 PM
....drilling rigs are leaving the GulF.....fuck that....Gulf Oil is leaving the Gulf.....

Nbadan
07-11-2010, 07:48 PM
A majority of Americans are against off-shore drilling...


According to a just released poll by Rasmussen published at Enviroknow, it appears that Republican voters have now moved left, tipping the nation’s majority against off-shore oil drilling. Pre-disaster, only 31% of Republicans were concerned or somewhat concerned, so along with the 70% of Democrats who were concerned it was a wash. But now that 50% of Republicans say that they are very or somewhat concerned, the nation’s tipping point is reached. (Democrats concern has grown to 84%.)

As of two months into this disaster, more than half of all Americans are now against drilling for off-shore oil.

But this month, Republican Senators plan to (once more) filibuster legislation to end our dependence on dirty energy.

What is more, of this Republican group of likely voters surveyed, almost all of them said they were following the ‘offshore drilling incident’ closely – 93%. This means it really has their attention, because if they didn’t care, they wouldn’t be following it closely. They do see what is happening. If they are following it, then they are beginning to understand the implications of fossil energy dependence.

This is in marked contrast to the Republican response to science and climate change, where the response to an even more catastrophic danger has been to put their fingers in their ears and see nothing, there is no global warming, it’s all a hoax, Al Gore, scientists are just in it for the money or whatever.

Link (http://cleantechnica.com/2010/07/11/majority-of-americans-now-against-off-shore-drilling/)

ElNono
07-11-2010, 07:53 PM
Are they returning the government subsidies before leaving?

boutons_deux
07-11-2010, 08:22 PM
"tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of Americans will soon be unemployed,"

scaremonger much?

How much oil is being produced in the 5000+ gulf wells now?

How much of break do US oil consumers get for oil produced on their lands and waters?

The oilcos are free to drill in deep US waters if they can prove they are serious about employee safety and blowout precautions and reactions.

Until then, fuck 'em.

Some fish stocks never came back to those waters after the Exxon Valdez spill. and the place still stinks. Exxon fought 20 years and won not to pay up, and the courts let them off. Fuck Exxon, fuck the courts.

Wild Cobra
07-11-2010, 11:47 PM
The oil companies will still deep ocean drill. They will still hire people, produce oil, and make those *gasp* PROFITS you find so abhorrent.

They just won't do it here and tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of Americans will soon be unemployed, lose their houses, etc. not because of anything they did, but rather something the US Government did to them.
True...

But liberals are not responsible for their agenda or actions.

It's Bush's fault.

Wild Cobra
07-11-2010, 11:49 PM
I presume you know the difference between a DRILLING rig and a PRODUCTION rig don't you?

I do.
No he doesn't. He's just being a chump again, trying to stir things up while jacking off.

ChumpDumper
07-12-2010, 12:02 AM
So these drilling rigs aren't even producing?

Wow.

It's even less bad in that case.

Surely you know how much of a decrease this will cause in the worldwide production of oil.

Tell us.Tell us all Wild Cobra.

How much will this affect the price of a gallon of gas?

Wild Cobra
07-12-2010, 12:05 AM
LOL...
Stuck on stupid I see repeating a stupid question.

No new drilling means no future oil production and jobs, as the other wells dry up.

The article spoke of 100 people on a platform at any given time. If they work 24/7, that means each rig employs about 400 people or so, or at least that amount of revenue to the region.

What was it? 7 drilling platforms? That 2,800 very good paying jobs.

Wild Cobra
07-12-2010, 12:06 AM
Tell us all Wild Cobra.

How much will this affect the price of a gallon of gas?

Why thank-you for assuming I know the costs. Sorry, I wouldn't' be able to give an accurate range.

ChumpDumper
07-12-2010, 12:09 AM
LOL...
Stuck on stupid I see repeating a stupid question.

No new drilling means no future oil production and jobs, as the other wells dry up.Please tell me how many sites are still able to be drilled in the Gulf not in deep water.

I'm waiting.

ChumpDumper
07-12-2010, 12:10 AM
Why thank-you for assuming I know the costs. Sorry, I wouldn't' be able to give an accurate range.So no oil is being taken out of production.

Thanks.

Wild Cobra
07-12-2010, 12:13 AM
Please tell me how many sites are still able to be drilled in the Gulf not in deep water.

I'm waiting.
Go fuck yourself with such questions. I have no time to bother with silly questions, especially now. As we use up the nearby reserves, we must go farther out. Such numbers simply don't matter. It's the principle.

This is my last posting for the evening. Time to get ready. Have to leave for work in 15 minutes.

ChumpDumper
07-12-2010, 12:16 AM
Go fuck yourself with such questions.U mad?


I have no time to bother with silly questions, especially now. As we use up the nearby reserves, we must go farther out.Are they all used up? Link.


Such numbers simply don't matter. It's the principle.Oh, so oil and jobs really don't matter to you -- you were just making shit up.

It's the principle that matters to you.


This is my last posting for the evening. Time to get ready. Have to leave for work in 15 minutes.Don't care.

admiralsnackbar
07-12-2010, 02:08 AM
I don't understand why this is going to affect "tens or hundreds of thousands of jobs"

The rigs are operated by employees of the international corps that run them, not the host countries they drill in or near. Unless I'm mistaken, the talent pool from which corporations hire is still largely here in the US, as are the best/cheapest refinement options, meaning most oil will end up back in the US eventually.

Ecuadorean wells, for example, were operated by Americans until their contracts ran out, and Alaskan rigs aren't operated by Russian employees who would be 10 times cheaper than the Americans who do run them.

Maybe you're making the argument that the market that provides services for rig employees may falter, but I have a hard time believing rig operators are going to up-root their families to the Middle East over a controversy that will be forgotten in a year, which means their families should keep the majority of the economies they influence unaffected.

RandomGuy
07-12-2010, 10:00 AM
I don't understand why this is going to affect "tens or hundreds of thousands of jobs"

The rigs are operated by employees of the international corps that run them, not the host countries they drill in or near. Unless I'm mistaken, the talent pool from which corporations hire is still largely here in the US, as are the best/cheapest refinement options, meaning most oil will end up back in the US eventually.

Ecuadorean wells, for example, were operated by Americans until their contracts ran out, and Alaskan rigs aren't operated by Russian employees who would be 10 times cheaper than the Americans who do run them.

Maybe you're making the argument that the market that provides services for rig employees may falter, but I have a hard time believing rig operators are going to up-root their families to the Middle East over a controversy that will be forgotten in a year, which means their families should keep the majority of the economies they influence unaffected.

The jobs loss figure is essentially scaremongering with little underlying basis.

That WC or any other "conservative" who has bizarrely taken up the cause of oil production can't really define how such a move will affect oil production or the price of gasoline is telling.

As time passes, even with completely unrestricted drilling, the proportion of global oil production represented by US production will fall.

That is a statistical and mathmatical inevitability.

I find it funny how people who supposedly champion the free market can suddenly not understand how free oil markets work when it comes to oil and gas prices.