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Galileo
07-11-2010, 10:15 PM
‎82 yr old charged with attempted murder in defense of property

An 82 year old local man has been charged with twelve felonies including four counts of 1st degree attempted murder for firing on two men who were stealing his trailer. Over the weekend, Wheat Ridge police released their statement and attempted justification for charging Robert Wallace with attempted murder for defending himself and his property with deadly force.

In February, he was watching TV in his living room when he heard a noise, investigated, and saw two men hooking his flatbed trailer up to their pick-up truck. He yelled at them to stop and they sped away with his trailer. He shot twice at the fleeing pick-up and one of the suspects ended up with a bullet in his face. The other suspect has reportedly confessed to the crime while the other was in the hospital.

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http://www.examiner.com/x-7039-Denver-Libertarian-Examiner~y2010m7d11-82-yr-old-charged-with-attempted-murder-in-defense-of-property

Wild Cobra
07-11-2010, 11:52 PM
Did this take place in Colorado, where they have sanctuary cities?

Galileo
07-12-2010, 08:44 AM
Did this take place in Colorado, where they have sanctuary cities?

It did. But that rule doesn't apply here.

CosmicCowboy
07-12-2010, 08:53 AM
Good shot!

DarkReign
07-12-2010, 10:06 AM
Did this take place in Colorado, where they have sanctuary cities?

Please explain further, I have never heard that term.

Bender
07-12-2010, 10:35 AM
I haven't heard of that either.

shooting someone while they are coming at you = ok.

shooting someone while they are fleeing = big trouble.

Wild Cobra
07-12-2010, 10:55 AM
Please explain further, I have never heard that term.

See Wiki: Sanctuary City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_city)

Wild Cobra
07-12-2010, 10:56 AM
I haven't heard of that either.

shooting someone while they are coming at you = ok.

shooting someone while they are fleeing = big trouble.

What about fleeing in your property?

CosmicCowboy
07-12-2010, 11:02 AM
I haven't heard of that either.

shooting someone while they are coming at you = ok.

shooting someone while they are fleeing = big trouble.

Still damn good shooting. A head shot when they are hauling ass in a truck...:toast

hater
07-12-2010, 11:03 AM
doesn't matter. Shooting someone in the back is pretty much murder.

CosmicCowboy
07-12-2010, 11:06 AM
I came damn close to doing that once. Mother fucker stole my suburban out of my driveway. I heard it start and came out the front door with the .44 mag. He was at the end of the driveway in the street going from reverse to drive. I had the hammer cocked and drawn down on him when I had second thoughts and didn't pull the trigger.

Blake
07-12-2010, 11:11 AM
I haven't heard of that either.

shooting someone while they are coming at you = ok.

shooting someone while they are fleeing = big trouble.

that.

especially if they have already exited the property.

Wild Cobra
07-12-2010, 11:55 AM
I came damn close to doing that once. Mother fucker stole my suburban out of my driveway. I heard it start and came out the front door with the .44 mag. He was at the end of the driveway in the street going from reverse to drive. I had the hammer cocked and drawn down on him when I had second thoughts and didn't pull the trigger.
Too bad you didn't think to shoot out the tire.

CosmicCowboy
07-12-2010, 12:13 PM
Too bad you didn't think to shoot out the tire.

Yep. Happened pretty fast. By the time I made the conscious decision not to kill him he had it in drive fishtailing down the street.

Oh, Gee!!
07-12-2010, 12:55 PM
he shoulda moved to Texas, and he wouldn't be in this mess

ChumpDumper
07-12-2010, 01:00 PM
I don't believe there is a death penalty for theft.

Johnson
07-12-2010, 01:03 PM
he shoulda moved to Texas, and he wouldn't be in this mess
Castle Doctrine does not include shooting at people while they are running away from you after the crime... at least I don't think.

CosmicCowboy
07-12-2010, 01:26 PM
I don't believe there is a death penalty for theft.

There would be if I caught him in my house.

ChumpDumper
07-12-2010, 01:27 PM
There would be if I caught him in my house.Tough guy.

CosmicCowboy
07-12-2010, 01:28 PM
Castle Doctrine does not include shooting at people while they are running away from you after the crime... at least I don't think.

That guy in Houston got no-billed and that was pretty close to the same. They were ripping off his neighbors house and he shot them in the car as they were getting ready to leave.

boutons_deux
07-12-2010, 01:28 PM
Remember that Houston guy that killed two robbers escaping from his neighbor's house last year or so? Jury acquitted him.

That's a very generous definition of "self defense" and "castle".

baseline bum
07-12-2010, 01:29 PM
I wish I was on dude's jury. No way I would convict someone for that.

ChumpDumper
07-12-2010, 01:30 PM
I doubt he'll be convicted.

Spurminator
07-12-2010, 01:35 PM
If he hadn't lied about it in the first interrogation he might have gotten a Manslaughter charge.

Drachen
07-12-2010, 01:39 PM
http://www.playerpress.com/uploads/Image/EastwoodMyLawn.jpg

Bender
07-12-2010, 01:45 PM
^--- M-1 Garand

Wild Cobra
07-12-2010, 02:15 PM
I doubt he'll be convicted.
Hard to say with Colorado laws.

ducks
07-12-2010, 02:19 PM
Tough guy.

LINK
PROVE IT:ihit

LnGrrrR
07-12-2010, 03:26 PM
I will echo what others said, that it's hard to justify shooting someone if they don't show some sort of imminent threat. A guy in your house might have a gun. The guy in your vehicle driving off MIGHT have a gun, yes, but he's probably not going to turn around and try to shoot you while he's hauling off.

ChumpDumper
07-12-2010, 07:57 PM
LINK
PROVE IT:ihitThe link was in my post, ducks.