Splitter deal = 3 years, $10 million ??

[lurker23]

Sorry, thought this deserved it's own thread. If true, quite the steal for the Spurs.

JMcDonald_SAEN

Per old man Monroe, Splitter's deal is for three years and $10 million total. #spurs

http://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/18386542351

[Bruno]

Splitter = Petro ?

[chazley]

WOW what a steal!

[Leetonidas]

:wow

If that's true, then HOLY SHIT.

[Spurs Brazil]

GREAT deal

[Anonymous Cowherd]

1) brilliant business!

BUT

2) less than Bonner = UH-OH.......

[celldweller]

If true, than shopping season is not done yet.

[rjv]

so what happens to the rest of the MLE ?

[Spurs Brazil]

We have money for a SF.

[peacemaker885]

Interesting to see that third year. That's when Blair and Hill expires right?

[Dro210]

Splitter = Petro ?

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Come on, at least give him another million so he's getting better than that :lol


I kinda feel bad for Tiago, but I'm glad he did it... He's already in the Spurs spirit of taking one for the team I guess. Let's hope we can add somebody useful with the money he left us.

[Spurminator]

Whoa...

[TimmehC]

Fuck it, use the rest on James Jones.

[AFBlue]

Wow...Tiago must've REALLY wanted to come to the Spurs to end up here for such a bargain.

Spurs now have roughly half the MLE left to spend on another player right?

[timvp]

WTF? That'd be pretty ridiculous.








:smokin

[Indazone]

Why would he do that? There has to be other incentives for him to play for less.

[tdunk21]

holy fuck...this gives us room to sign someone else?

[RiverwalkParade]

Wow!

[TIMMYD!]

Damn! That's really going to help us if we end up signing someone else.

[RiverwalkParade]

can the MLE and LLE be combined?

[angelbelow]

wow i didnt think a scola type deal would be realistic in todays NBA but that is GREAT news if true.

[DMX7]

Oh man, this makes the Bonner deal look even worse. Was Bonner really worth that on the free market (outside of the Spurs)?

[coyotes_geek]

If that's true, it's incredible news. Not only would they be able to use the remainder of the MLE to beat an LLE salary, but they could also offer a contract longer than 2 years.

[coyotes_geek]

can the MLE and LLE be combined?

no.

[Bruno]

If it's true Spurs have still $2.7M left on their MLE. They could go after a good SF with that money. They could also spend $500K to ink Ryan Richards to a 3 years deal

[Spurs Brazil]

can the MLE and LLE be combined?

no

[peacemaker885]

This shows the guy really really wants to play in the NBA. cheers!

[AFBlue]

Now just sign Josh Howard to a 2yr deal for the rest of it and move on without RJ.

[DesignatedT]

hahahahaha yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MannyIsGod]

LOOOOOOOOL if this is true when you compare it to the Bonner deal.

[MannyIsGod]

Monroe though. Monroe.

[Spurminator]

Why didn't Monroe just tweet it himself?

[smrattler]

If it's true Spurs have still $2.7M left on their MLE. They could go after a good SF with that money.

Or they might just sign Matt Bonner's brother with the rest of that money.

[ducks]

Phila_Chamberlain

thinking spurs were offering the full mle
no reason not to
I guess not huh:p:

[tdunk21]

If it's true Spurs have still $2.7M left on their MLE. They could go after a good SF with that money. They could also spend $500K to ink Ryan Richards to a 3 years deal

can we club the rest of mle and lle together?

[Mark in Austin]

Fuck me. If this is true Arn Tellum must still be distracted by Joe Johnson & Mike Miller's deals.

[coyotes_geek]

Again assuming the report is true, this could explain why the Spurs were contacting guys like Matthews and Korver. Looks like the Spurs knew all along they would be able to get Tiago for something in this neighborhood.

[Spurs Brazil]

If the Spurs is smart enough to sign Splitter to 3yrs/10 million they won't be dumb enough to offer Bonner 4/16; I still think Bonner contract will be like 4/10mi

[DesignatedT]

hope its true

[Spurs Brazil]

can we club the rest of mle and lle together?

no

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Just makes Bonner's contract look even worse than it was to begin with :td

[MannyIsGod]

If this is true then I'd have to bet that they played one hell of a game of chicken with Splitter. He apparently blinked first.

[coyotes_geek]

If the Spurs is smart enough to sign Splitter to 3yrs/10 million they won't be dumb enough to offer Bonner 4/16; I still think Bonner contract will be like 4/10mi

That would make much more sense.

Either that or the Spurs are just using Bonner's contract to try and motivate Tiago. :p:

"Tiago, meet Matt. Matt makes more money than you. What are you going to do about it?"

[Marcus Bryant]

Huh?

[EduRiker]

This will destroy team chemistry once Tiago understand that he's receiving less money than Matt Bonner. :lmao

[ducks]

THIS IS WHY SPURS DEALS TAKE A LONG TIME TO GET DONE THEY PLAY CHICKEN
most of the time it works out

[Mark in Austin]

If the Spurs is smart enough to sign Splitter to 3yrs/10 million they won't be dumb enough to offer Bonner 4/16; I still think Bonner contract will be like 4/10mi

All things considered it is possible that the Bonner hometown paper might have fudged the numbers a little / assumed some stuff for a local guy makes good story - and I think that paper is still the only place where the salary is mentioned.

Hopefully SB is right...

[lurker23]

Why didn't Monroe just tweet it himself?

Not sure, but Monroe has only one real tweet on his account, so he's probably not in the habit of using it.

http://twitter.com/M_Monroe_in_SA

Also, if this is true, props to Monroe and McDonald for breaking the story. Hopefully it's a sign better days to come. :toast

[My Fault]

can we club the rest of mle and lle together?

No the two can not be combined

[rayray2k8]

If this is true.. Then damn, what a steal.

[Marcus Bryant]

Bonner should have gotten that deal. Then again, perhaps he did.

[Spurminator]

All things considered it is possible that the Bonner hometown paper might have fudged the numbers a little / assumed some stuff for a local guy makes good story - and I think that paper is still the only place where the salary is mentioned.

Hopefully SB is right...

Or maybe we didn't sign Bonner at all!

:lol

[Seventyniner]

3/10 would come out to roughly 3.03, 3.33, 3.64 for the three years. This leaves around $2.75M in the MLE.

I'd still be quite surprised if this were true.

[Death In June]

All things considered it is possible that the Bonner hometown paper might have fudged the numbers a little / assumed some stuff for a local guy makes good story - and I think that paper is still the only place where the salary is mentioned.

Hopefully SB is right...God, I hope so.

[ducks]

3/10 would come out to roughly 3.03, 3.33, 3.64 for the three years. This leaves around $2.75M in the MLE.

I'd still be quite surprised if this were true.

why
spurs are good:flag:

[DMX7]

God, I hope so.

Those are the exact words that I was thinking.

[4>0rings]

Wow just wow. Tiago's going to fight Bonner in the locker room once he plays side by side with him.

[CubanMustGo]

Didn't Tiago have to come up with something like $1.2 mill to buy out his current contract? If so he (and McD is correct) is basically working for the LLE this year ...

[Marcus Bryant]

Maybe Bonner's deal was something like 5 years, $15 mil.

[Obstructed_View]

Too late to renege on Bonner?

[jag]

How long until the actual figures are known?

[tdunk21]

Wow just wow. Tiago's going to fight Bonner in the locker room once he plays side by side with him.

change ur fuckin sig to fuck matt bonner.....

or GTFO

[doobs]

So Bonner's contract is the new Malik Rose contract, and Splitter's contract is the new Ginobili (first) contract.

[angelbelow]

This makes me think Bonners contract is a 4 year 8 million deal. Thats a very fair deal for a player like Bonner.

[Ditty]

i hate bonner now

[Kindergarten Cop]

I was fairly confident (or at least extremely hopeful :toast ) that it wouldn't take the full MLE . Bruno had me convinced. :hat I made a post shortly after Jefferson opted out questioning whether or not it was really a safe assumption that it would take the full MLE and I was told that it was conventional wisdom that it would.

This is WONDERFUL news, if true.:flag:

[fmedrano1977]

Just heard on the news, that he is going to make just under 5.8 mil per.

[4>0rings]

change ur fuckin sig to fuck matt bonner.....

or GTFOAs long as the Spurs employee his ass it stays or I might change it to just Bonner then add Spurs the first minute of playing time he gets in the new season.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Just heard on the news, that he is going to make just under 5.8 mil per.

What news channel? Perhaps they were just basing that off of the assumption that he was going to get the full MLE.

[MannyIsGod]

Just heard on the news, that he is going to make just under 5.8 mil per.

That would be the MLE amount. I don't know how much I trust the EN to break something like this accurately.

Where is Ludden when you need him?

[Chieflion]

Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And it better be real!

[pad300]

I don't believe this. I'm sure that Arn Tellem got more for his client than that...

[Marcus Bryant]

If true (hard to believe), then...

Re-sign Jefferson to something reasonable.
Use the remainder of the MLE and/or LLE to round out the 2 and 3. With Jefferson back in the fold, the Spurs could take a gamble on a Josh Howard. Other candidates would be Raja Bell, Jarvis Hayes, and Matt Barnes.

Starters
1 Parker
2 Ginobili
3 Jefferson
4 Duncan
5 Splitter

Bench
1 Hill
2 Bell
2/3 Anderson
3 Howard
4 Blair
4 Bonner
4/5 McDyess

[clubalien]

10mil/yr thought we only could pay mle hmm

guess since he is our free draft pick different rules/
10mil a year weird

[kaji157]

Please if some cap gurus can enlight me on this.

If Splitter deal is finally structured as 3.03, 3.33, 3.64 for the 3 years. Does all of this come out of the MLE?
I ask because by the rookie scale contract exception, we could have signed splitter to a contract worth 0.7823, 0.841 and 0.8997 for the first 3 years without counting against the MLE.

My question is, does the total ammount of the count against the MLE or only the difference between the contract given vs the Rookie Scale Contract for a 2007 28th pick???

[jiggy_55]

SSSWWWEEEEETTTTT!

WojYahooNBA

Spurs are paying Tiago Splitter nearly $10 million over three years out of mid-level exception. Does that leave enough $ to lure Raja Bell?

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/18389241583

This is Yahoo now, I believe them.

[lurker23]

Not sure if he is just going off the EN report, but....

WojYahooNBA

Spurs are paying Tiago Splitter nearly $10 million over three years out of mid-level exception. Does that leave enough $ to lure Raja Bell?

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/18389241583

[kaji157]

This makes me think Bonners contract is a 4 year 8 million deal. Thats a very fair deal for a player like Bonner.

Of course, that´s why i am not hating on bonner, those here thinking bonner will earn any more than what he already earned is nuts.
I don´t think the Spursd are stupid enought to pay more than 2 million a year for Bonner.

[TIMMYD!]

10mil/yr thought we only could pay mle hmm

guess since he is our free draft pick different rules/
10mil a year weird

http://www.funnypictureblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/NotSureIfSerious.jpg

[tdunk21]

SSSWWWEEEEETTTTT!

WojYahooNBA

Spurs are paying Tiago Splitter nearly $10 million over three years out of mid-level exception. Does that leave enough $ to lure Raja Bell?

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/18389241583

This is Yahoo now, I believe them.
:toast

[DPG21920]

Kind of funny that while awesome if true, there is not really anyone left at SF that is that appealing imo.

[ace3g]

yeah I believe Woj, but I don't want Raja Bell, he is 6'5 and too much of a Bogans, Udoka type

[jiggy_55]

Not sure if he is just going off the EN report, but....

WojYahooNBA

Spurs are paying Tiago Splitter nearly $10 million over three years out of mid-level exception. Does that leave enough $ to lure Raja Bell?

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/18389241583

Posted it seconds before you :). I don't think Yahoo are stupid enough to believe Monroe or McDonald without verifying, so I think it's true. Wow simply amazing.

[ducks]

Didn't Tiago have to come up with something like $1.2 mill to buy out his current contract? If so he (and McD is correct) is basically working for the LLE this year ...

spurs can give 500k for that

[peacemaker885]

Not sure if he is just going off the EN report, but....

WojYahooNBA

Spurs are paying Tiago Splitter nearly $10 million over three years out of mid-level exception. Does that leave enough $ to lure Raja Bell?

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/18389241583

Effing A

[spursfan1000]

Damn great deal!!

[CubanMustGo]

spurs can give 500k for that

Buyout $1.76 million (according to Monroe), Spurs pay $500K, Splitter pays the rest.

[jag]

http://www.funnypictureblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/NotSureIfSerious.jpg

:lol

[spursfan1000]

Buyout $1.76 million (according to Monroe), Spurs pay $500K, Splitter pays the rest.


Well i guess its worth it for Splitter since he wants to play in the NBA so bad. :toast

[Ginobili2Duncan]

Not sure if he is just going off the EN report, but....

WojYahooNBA

Spurs are paying Tiago Splitter nearly $10 million over three years out of mid-level exception. Does that leave enough $ to lure Raja Bell?

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/18389241583



Wow, excellent contract by the Spurs :tu

[DesignatedT]

http://www.funnypictureblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/NotSureIfSerious.jpg

:lmao

[underdawg]

yeah I believe Woj, but I don't want Raja Bell, he is 6'5 and too much of a Bogans, Udoka type

extra money is for Bogans not Bell

[Marcus Bryant]

Except that Bell has actually done something in the league.

[underdawg]

Except that Bell has actually done something in the league.

I agree - just going off recent trends

[Bruno]

I guess Spurs have played hardball with Splitter : "You fucked us 2 years ago by staying in Spain. There is no way we will reward you with a big fat contract."

[clubalien]

don harris news at 6:00 said "6 million" dollars will make you rethink changing number

in reference to 22 insted of 21.

h,mm so don is saying 6 million not 5.8 MLE or 10 mill either..

i think don might just be guessing since he has no sources of his own

[Dex]

Bell or not, if this report is true, then Tiago is really doing the Spurs a favor and giving them some much needed flexibility this summer. I think it was pretty much assumed that he would demand the full MLE or most of it. This definitely makes the FA outlook more interesting.

[Marcus Bryant]

I guess Spurs have played hardball with Splitter : "You fucked us 2 years ago by staying in Spain. There is no way we will reward you with a big fat contract.'

True. 'We'll sit on your rights otherwise.'

After 3 years they'd have full Bird Rights for him. And anyways, he should have some $ saved up...

[DPG21920]

Bruno, do you see anyone interesting left for the Spurs to go after that would actually help and/or take the perceived money the Spurs have left?

It seems the market overpaid and stole any good deals/players.

[clubalien]

maybe 10 mill is what counts for the cap

i read you can have incentives that are likely versus not likely..

maybe if we win 50 games he gets a bonus of more or less money?

[Shastafarian]

Rasual Butler

http://bolstablog.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/boy-and-dog-praying.jpg

[Marcus Bryant]

And now the alleged interest of the Spurs in Shaq is put into perspective.

[baseline bum]

Wow, unreal to get Splitter for $10 million. I figured this was going to be a 3 year, $19 million MLE deal.

[Ditty]

get jefferson back for cheap and raja bell and maybe another foward like matt barnes and this team could be built to beat the lakers defintley 2nd in the west now

[Thomas82]

And now the alleged interest of the Spurs in Shaq is put into perspective.

It'll be funny if the Spurs still ended up signing him.

[Marcus Bryant]

Yes, get Jefferson back now. Then bolster the 2 and 3 depth with the remainder of the MLE and the LLE.

[clubalien]

True. 'We'll sit on your rights otherwise.'

After 3 years they'd have full Bird Rights for him. And anyways, he should have some $ saved up...

spurs would not be againt violating the nba rules and pulling a boozer in take les now and with bird rights we will promise more in a max contract

[tdunk21]

maybe splitter thought 3yr/10 mil euros..lol

[Blackjack]

Don't know how I didn't see this thread right off the bat. :depressed












Oh, and ... :elephant

[Bruno]

Bruno, do you see anyone interesting left for the Spurs to go after that would actually help and/or take the perceived money the Spurs have left?

It seems the market overpaid and stole any good deals/players.


I would try Josh Howard. In the likely case it didn't work, I would then go after Rasual Butler.

[DPG21920]

And now the alleged interest of the Spurs in Shaq is put into perspective.

You think the Spurs would carry Duncan/Dice/Splitter/Blair/Bonner/Shaq?

[tdunk21]

I would try Josh Howard. In the likely case it didn't work, I would then go after Rasual Butler.

what do u think of josh howard for rest of mle and barnes for lle in case RJ gets a contract somewhere else

[Marcus Bryant]

You think the Spurs would carry Duncan/Dice/Splitter/Blair/Bonner/Shaq?

No.

[Blackjack]

Howard, Bell and Butler, in that order.

I don't see Bell coming here but I'd prefer Howard anyway. And maybe the rest of the MLE for one year and the chance to stick it to Cuban would be worth it to him. I don't see many better offers than what the Spurs could give him for a year -- he could get more guaranteed but not at his true market value -- and he'd be free to get paid after he proves healthy for a year and has his game back.

Butler I like as a Spurs fit, Bell's almost perfect as a Spurs fit, but give me Howard if you have the choice.

[planaria]

Holy shit.

Well, I was affraid about lose Splitter in some brazilian NT in some competitions. However, after these news, I dont think the management will have guts to ask him something more. Lol

[DPG21920]

No question you get Howard if you can if he is remotely healthy.

[lurker23]

Now I really hope Bonner signs for less than previously reported.

Duncan at less than $19 million, McDyess at less than $5 million, Splitter at ~$3 million, and Blair at less than $1 million = great bargain front line.

[Bruno]

what do u think of josh howard for rest of mle and barnes for lle in case RJ gets a contract somewhere else

Well, it looks like RJ will re-sing with Spurs tomorrow.

Now, if Spurs can get both Howard and Barnes, I hope they decide to sign both and let RJ go instead of re-signing RJ to a big contract.

[ace3g]

what if the Spurs got one of Barnes/TMAC/Howard for the rest of the MLE and either James Jones or Butler for the LLE

[m33p0]

has this been confirmed?

holy shit, btw. :wow

[Marcus Bryant]

Well, it looks like RJ will re-sing with Spurs tomorrow.

Now, if Spurs can get both Howard and Barnes, I hope they decide to sign both and let RJ go instead of re-signing RJ to a big contract.

At this point, however well you can stock the team for the next two seasons, you do it.

[coyotes_geek]

I'm not sure if this was by design or not, but a 3yr/$10 mil contract lines up exactly with rookie scale for the #4 pick in this year's draft. Just an observation........

[Stringer_Bell]

maybe splitter thought 3yr/10 mil euros..lol

:lmao

It still wouldn't make much of a difference though, 12.5m to 10m dollars. So like a million a year. Sounds like he was serious about making his money in Europe then coming over here to compete...:flag:

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

:wow

[tdunk21]

Well, it looks like RJ will re-sing with Spurs tomorrow.

Now, if Spurs can get both Howard and Barnes, I hope they decide to sign both and let RJ go instead of re-signing RJ to a big contract.

if we get a chance to sign howard and barnes and also resign jefferson....it would be awesome.....howard can give us time at SG spot and barnes can play PF in pop's small ball lineup

[Bruno]

At this point, however well you can stock the team for the next two seasons, you do it.

If Spurs can find a way to be good at SF without spending $35M or $40M on a player who struggled to fit with the team, you do it.

Josh Howard with Matt Barnes as back up is a good SF rotation.

[Russ]

Per old man Monroe, Splitter's deal is for three years and $10 million total. #spurs

http://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/18386542351

Bonner must have laid down the law on Pop about Splitter . . .

[planaria]

I'm not sure if this was by design or not, but a 3yr/$10 mil contract lines up exactly with rookie scale for the #4 pick in this year's draft. Just an observation........

That would be a nice contract to Splitter when he was a great prospect at 21 years old. He would fit preety well in a #4 pick 4 years ago.

Right now, this contract has just 1 winner and it was :flag:

[Marcus Bryant]

The first year is hard for many players, including vets.

[Mal]

Spurs still need 6th big, so I guess LLE or vet min would go to get that.

[planaria]

The first year is hard for many players, including vets.

Fact, but still a bargain.

[ChuckD]

yeah I believe Woj, but I don't want Raja Bell, he is 6'5 and too much of a Bogans, Udoka type

Bell is about as far from those two in one direction as he is from Kobe in the other. He is SO much better on both sides of the ball than those two it's ridiculous. He has 6 seasons over 40% on three pointers, and is a high volume long ball shooter, in addtion to his high percentage.. He's no longer a lock down defender, but he's WAY better than Udoka or Bogans.

[tomtom]

Wow that's a great deal if true

[Nathan89]

yeah I believe Woj, but I don't want Raja Bell, he is 6'5 and too much of a Bogans, Udoka type

Bell can shoot way better and play better defense. At least in the past he could.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Spurs still need 6th big, so I guess LLE or vet min would go to get that.

I wouldn't be so sure about the Spurs adding another big - but if they do, it will likely be Richards (who will likely spend the full season in the D-League).

[etbluffer]

Can you say Shaquille O'neal? Possibly leaving $ on the table to sign him up for two years???

[ploto]

No wonder he only signed for 3 years.

[Das Texan]

Holy shit.

[Blackjack]

I can see the Spurs' pitch.

Pop: Tiago, we want to give you $35M. Hell, we'll make it closer to $40M. You just take that little pen there and sign a 5-year deal.

Tiago: No, uh, but I know I want to only have three-year contract.

Pop: are you telling me you don't want $35M?

Tiago: No ... [/Pop cuts him off mid-sentence]

Pop: He doesn't!?! Wow ... what a team player. I bet the next thing out of your mouth was that you don't feel you deserve to be paid more than your close friend Luis was when he came over. You don't want any resentment or to feel like you've been handed anything, Right?

Tiago: Well ... [/Pop cuts him off again]

Pop: Well, you heard it folks. This great player and man is going to do the honorable thing and take a deal that's below his market value and one that falls in line with his close friend, Luis Scola!

Tiago: But ... [/Pop cuts him off again]

Pop: Now, Tiago, I know what you're going to say but I'm perfectly willing to help you out; I know English isn't your first language and all. Tiago. [/Pop calls out to Splitter]

Tiago:Yes ... [Pop cuts him off again -- mutters to RC: "You got that 'yes,' right?" RC nods he did; Pop confers with RC]

Pop: you just give me a minute and we'll wrap this thing up, alright, Tiago?

Tiago: I wa.... [/Pop cuts him off again]

Pop: You want to reiterate how pleased you are to be in San Antonio and with the Spurs; see I told you I'd help you with the language -- you would've had hell with that 'reiterate' word. Give me a sec, guys. [/Pop and RC leave the room]

Pop to RC: Alright, now just take the 'yes' we got recorded and insert it after the Scola bullshit and how I mentioned he'd want to be compensated fairly and in lines with his friend, Luis.

RC: Is this even ethical?

Pop: I can go back to GM duties, Buford.

RC: Seems on the up and up to me.

[ChuckD]

Bell or not, if this report is true, then Tiago is really doing the Spurs a favor and giving them some much needed flexibility this summer. I think it was pretty much assumed that he would demand the full MLE or most of it. This definitely makes the FA outlook more interesting.

A favor? He made them wait 2 years after he said he was going to come in 2008, and is the highest paid #28 pick in the history of the draft. His first year salary is more than 3X scale.

[lurker23]

Better details:

M_Monroe_in_SA

Spurs deal for Splitter starts at 3.4 mil, totals 11 mil over 3 years


WojYahooNBA

Tiago Splitter contract is actually 3 years for $10.9 million with Spurs, league source says. He will make $3.4 million this season.

[DPG21920]

I cannot believe Tiago is making less than *Bonner, Gooden, Petro, Amir, Frye and Warrick.

He is only making about 1.4M more than Ian if this is true.

[lurker23]

So 2.6 left basically. Awesome.

If it's $3.4 million exactly, then they have $2.365 million left.

[Zelophehad]

This is a smart move keeping it short term like this. In three years he will be 28 and could be looking at some Varejao/Haywood type contract.

[Das Texan]

McDonald actually got something accurate?


I guess even the blind rat finds the cheese occasionally.

[Bruno]

I cannot believe Tiago is making less than *Bonner, Gooden, Petro, Amir, Frye and Warrick.

He is only making about 1.4M more than Ian if this is true.

Reports are contradicting about Ian and it's possible that he is only paid a min salary (about $900K).

[timvp]

If it's $3.4 million exactly, then they have $2.365 million left.

Hmmm ... now the Spurs might have to decide between giving Richards a three-year deal or going after a player who otherwise is getting offered the LLE.

[JustinJDW]

Wow, so Bonner is gonna be makin more money than Splitter?

[mattyc]

Bargain. Great work FO.

[planaria]

A favor? He made them wait 2 years after he said he was going to come in 2008, and is the highest paid #28 pick in the history of the draft. His first year salary is more than 3X scale.

What are you talking about? Splitter never asked to be picked in the late first round of the draft. He was just automatic elegible.
He´d be only interessed in joining the NBA if he was a Top pick.

So, it was not like "he made" Spurs wait for 2 years, even because Spurs always had the trade option.

[ace3g]

WojYahooNBA

One GM calls Spurs deal for 7-footer Splitter, "The best contract of the summer."

[ElNono]

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/highwayrobbery.jpg

[DPG21920]

Reports are contradicting about Ian and it's possible that he is only paid a min salary (about $900K).

I am very happy that Ian got guaranteed money. It will be interesting to see how much when it is all said and done.

I really wish other teams would not have overpaid for very marginal players. It screwed the Spurs big time.

[DPG21920]

WojYahooNBA

One GM calls Spurs deal for 7-footer Splitter, "The best contract of the summer."

:lol Well taking into consideration all the crap contracts the contest was not very hard to win.

[Solid D]

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/object2/1121/28/n240785889110_5157.jpg

"WOW, THAT's A LOW PRICE!!!"

[TD 21]

And to think, there were reports last week about him and his camp waiting for a satisfactory offer from the Spurs. Then they sign him for 3 years/$10.9 million, which begs the question: what were they offering before? They must have really been trying to low ball him.

Two other thoughts on this...

1) It's now clear that the Spurs are going to pursue a veteran wing.

2) I have a bad feeling that Splitter isn't going to play nearly as prominent a role next season as many hope and assume he will.

[Sisk]

How much money did Splitter make in Europe total?

Crazy good contract for the Spurs.

[DPG21920]

Well this makes one wonder why Bonner was so happy about getting "his long term security".

[Spursmania]

Oh man, this makes the Bonner deal look even worse. Was Bonner really worth that on the free market (outside of the Spurs)?

Of course Bonner was not worth it.:lol

[slick'81]

i also hope this means bonner doesnt get anywhere near 16 mil

[Bruno]

Hmmm ... now the Spurs might have to decide between giving Richards a three-year deal or going after a player who otherwise is getting offered the LLE.

I think that signing Richards to only a 2 years contract is an acceptable drawback if Spurs can get a good player with the rest of their MLE. After 2 years, he will be a RFA and Spurs will still be in the driver seat.

With the rest of their MLE, Spurs can offer a $7.8M/3 years contract while the full LLE is $4.3M/2 years. They have a significant financial edge over teams offering only the LLE.

[timvp]

I'm guessing the Spurs didn't by any bluff by Splitter's people. In his press conference, Splitter basically said he wanted to come to the NBA this year no matter what. The FO must have figured as much and insisted he take a Scola-esque deal.

It was a risky move by the Spurs but it apparently paid off. Now, if they want, they may be able to get a decent vet swingman to add to the mix.

[Sisk]

Compared to his last contract? He is making around 2 million more a year.

So he made about $4,000,000 in Spain during his career there? I'm lost!

[DPG21920]

I'm guessing the Spurs didn't by any bluff by Splitter's people. In his press conference, Splitter basically said he wanted to come to the NBA this year no matter what. The FO must have figured as much and insisted he take a Scola-esque deal.

It was a risky move by the Spurs but it apparently paid off. Now, if they want, they may be able to get a decent vet swingman to add to the mix.

That well is almost dry and teams are still overpaying.

[ElNono]

I'm guessing the Spurs didn't by any bluff by Splitter's people. In his press conference, Splitter basically said he wanted to come to the NBA this year no matter what. The FO must have figured as much and insisted he take a Scola-esque deal.

It was a risky move by the Spurs but it apparently paid off. Now, if they want, they may be able to get a decent vet swingman to add to the mix.

It also works for Splitter because in 3 seasons he will still be in the good side of 30, and with 3 seasons of experience under his belt. He'll probably command good money then.

[Johnny RIngo]

lol at Bonner making more than Tiago

[Rito3d30]

Gives #spurs (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23spurs) about $2.3 million left of MLE RT @M_Monroe_in_SA (http://twitter.com/M_Monroe_in_SA) Spurs deal for Splitter starts at 3.4 mil, totals 11 mil over 3 years:toast

http://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN

[planaria]

Compared to his last contract? He is making around 2 million more a year.

He was making 2mi euros a year, not?

[Spursmania]

I didn't think this summer could be as good as last year's. But now it's awesome!
I'm thrilled the Spurs are getting Tiago. Finally, no more wish threads. Tiago is here. Let's see who else the Spurs can reel in.

Sure glad I renewed my season tickets.

[Bruno]

Splitter salary in Spain was €1.4M per year.

[Sisk]

Splitter salary in Spain was €1.4M per year.

Thanks Bruno :toast

[Brazil]

more money available for a fat new bonner contract !

[Dex]

I didn't think this summer could be as good as last year's. But now it's awesome!
I'm thrilled the Spurs are getting Tiago. Finally, no more wish threads. Tiago is here. Let's see who else the Spurs can reel in.

Sure glad I renewed my season tickets.

After the Scola fiasco, the wait for Splitter has seemed interminable. Glad it's finally been put to rest, and now I'm officially itching for the season to start again.

Gonna be a long summer.

[lurker23]

DonHarris4WOAI

NBA Source: Splitter contract is for 10.9 million over 3 years. 3.4,3.6,3.9 million per. Great buy. Leaves Spurs room to pursue Raja Bell.

[Bruno]

NBA source = Wojo twitter :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Great. Now we can outbid Dallas for Ian.

[ElNono]

Great. Now we can outbid Dallas for Ian.

:lol

[timvp]

Great. Now we can outbid Dallas for Ian.

:rollin

[bigfan]

Now just sign Josh Howard to a 2yr deal for the rest of it and move on without RJ.

You have to be kidding. I live in Dallas and am familiar with press on this lazy pothead's antics. Coach Pop would kill this asshat in a week.

[DPG21920]

So the Spurs have this:



With the rest of their MLE, Spurs can offer a $7.8M/3 years contract while the full LLE is $4.3M/2 years. They have a significant financial edge over teams offering only the LLE.

To offer this:

Josh Howard
Ronnie Brewer
Matt Barnes
Rasual Butler
Pete Mickeal
James Jones
Bobby Simmons
Tracy McGrady
Jarvis Hayes
Bostjan Nachbar
Rodney Carney
Stephen Graham
Alan Anderson
Devin Brown
Antoine Wright
Joey Graham
Keith Bogans
Damien Wilkins


Hmmmmm.

[lurker23]

NBA source = Wojo twitter :lol

For what it's worth, Wojo didn't have year-by-year salaries, though I suppose Don could just be guessing.

Not only did they get Splitter on a low starting salary, it looks like he didn't get max raises per year either.

[Sausage]

"If I stayed in Spain I could have made more money," Splitter said. "But this is my moment."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5374375&campaign=rss&source=NBAHeadlines&utm_source=espn&utm_medium=twitter

[Russ]

I cannot believe Tiago is making less than *Bonner, Gooden, Petro, Amir, Frye and Warrick.

He is only making about 1.4M more than Ian if this is true.

I'm noting a pattern here.

South American guys excel in Europe then come to the Spurs.

Then they don't want to be paid what they're worth.

Then they (quietly) wow the league.

Then the Spurs win another title.

[Spurs Brazil]

"We're very fortunate to be adding one of the best players not playing in the NBA," Spurs general manager R.C. Buford said before introducing Splitter.

[Ditty]

get me barnes and rasul or bell and call it a summer

[Bruno]

For what it's worth, Wojo didn't have year-by-year salaries, though I suppose Don could just be guessing.

Not only did they get Splitter on a low starting salary, it looks like he didn't get max raises per year either.

He got max raises (8%).

A $10.9M max raises contract is:
Year 1: $3,364,198
Year 2: $3,633,333
Year 3: $3,902,469

[Brazil]

great signing for this price, surely the best quality / price ratio of the summer

[HarlemHeat37]

So the Spurs have this:



To offer this:

Josh Howard
Ronnie Brewer
Matt Barnes
Rasual Butler
James Jones
Bobby Simmons
Tracy McGrady
Jarvis Hayes
Bostjan Nachbar
Rodney Carney
Stephen Graham
Alan Anderson
Devin Brown
Antoine Wright
Joey Graham
Keith Bogans
Damien Wilkins


The bolded guys don't interest me at all, I'd pass without thinking twice..

I would be fine with Rasual Butler..I wouldn't mind James Jones, Josh Howard or Ronnie Brewer..

I wouldn't be angry if they got Barnes, but I would rather not..

McGrady can go either way..he's one of the worst defenders in the NBA at this point, but he could probably play some point forward for 10-15 minutes a game for this team..I'd rather not get him, but I wouldn't be angry..

Not exactly good pickings here..

[ace3g]

DonHarris4WOAI

NBA Source: Splitter contract is for 10.9 million over 3 years. 3.4,3.6,3.9 million per. Great buy. Leaves Spurs room to pursue Raja Bell.

------
will everyone get Raja Bell out of their head he is 6'5, I don't care if he was/is a good defender he is too short, the Spurs need a legit back up SF , 6'7 or taller

[Birn]

Although it's a great bargain for the Spurs, he's still pretty much doubling what he made last year in Spain. Seems like a win/win for everyone.

[ElNono]

We're lucky Splitter wanted to play here. I suspect the the Spurs said 'if you want the full mle, it gotta be for 5 seasons'. And I think it could have turned ugly if there was a standoff over that.

But that's over with now, and I'm glad Splitter is on board

[DPG21920]

The bolded guys don't interest me at all, I'd pass without thinking twice..

I would be fine with Rasual Butler..I wouldn't mind James Jones, Josh Howard or Ronnie Brewer..

I wouldn't be angry if they got Barnes, but I would rather not..

McGrady can go either way..he's one of the worst defenders in the NBA at this point, but he could probably play some point forward for 10-15 minutes a game for this team..I'd rather not get him, but I wouldn't be angry..

Not exactly good pickings here..

Yeah, I have to agree. Very disappointing and of the 6 you have left as decent, probably half will get some stupid contracts.

Good job by the Spurs, but the market burned them badly. I still cannot believe in this market that no one wants RJ :lol

[ElNono]

Although it's a great bargain for the Spurs, he's still pretty much doubling what he made last year in Spain. Seems like a win/win for everyone.

He could probably have signed for twice as much on a team like Real Madrid though... And in Europe those contracts are normally completely tax free.
We got a good deal.

[DPG21920]

Even if he completely flops, which is unlikely, this is extremely low risk/high reward. Great job by the FO.

[rayray2k8]

So the Spurs have this:



To offer this:

Josh Howard
Ronnie Brewer
Matt Barnes
Rasual Butler
Pete Mickeal
James Jones
Bobby Simmons
Tracy McGrady
Jarvis Hayes
Bostjan Nachbar
Rodney Carney
Stephen Graham
Alan Anderson
Devin Brown
Antoine Wright
Joey Graham
Keith Bogans
Damien Wilkins


Hmmmmm.

[Bruno]

will everyone get Raja Bell out of their head he is 6'5, I don't care if he was/is a good defender he is too short, the Spurs need a legit back up SF , 6'7 or taller

The problem with that is that there isn't a lot of 6'7" or more SFs available.

[Spurs Brazil]

chadfordinsider Is there a reverse KAHHHHHHN!? RT @mhaubs Splitter is unbelievable steal at 3/10.9. Less than Darko? Same as Petro/Mozgov? You kidding me?

[DPG21920]

IMO, this contract allows for the Spurs to make a trade and bring back a little more salary. I believe that with who is left at SF, the Spurs will have to make a trade in order to balance the team and give them a legit shot at competing for a title.

[DPG21920]

Chad Ford gets it.

[ElNono]

We're re-signing Money Mase. You heard it here first...



:vomit:

[Dex]

We're re-signing Money Mase. You heard it here first...



:vomit:

http://afunfair.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/magic_8ball_outlook_not_so_good.jpg

[outmap]

If it's true Spurs have still $2.7M left on their MLE. They could go after a good SF with that money. They could also spend $500K to ink Ryan Richards to a 3 years deal

They can sign Richards for 500k and the remaining MLE would still beat the LLE. GENIUS! :king

[jaffies]

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/9926/splitdecision.jpg

[ElNono]

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/9926/splitdecision.jpg


:rollin

[Kafka]

http://www.nba.com/spurs/photos/100712_splitter_300x350a.jpg

[lurker23]

He got max raises (8%).

A $10.9M max raises contract is:
Year 1: $3,364,198
Year 2: $3,633,333
Year 3: $3,902,469

Thanks Bruno. :tu I was just going with the rounded numbers, which yielded slightly different results.

If year 1 is indeed $3.365 million, then that leaves almost exactly $2.4 million to work with.

[lurker23]

We're re-signing Money Mase. You heard it here first...



:vomit:

Are you legitimately revealing something you heard from a source, or just trying to scare us? :lol

[Indazone]

Thanks Bruno :toast


Splitter's contract with Spanish league's Tau Ceramica payed him $3.5 million a season.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/409245-spanish-league-mvp-to-make-jump-to-nba

[ChumpDumper]

Splitter's contract with Spanish league's Tau Ceramica payed him $3.5 million a season.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/409245-spanish-league-mvp-to-make-jump-to-nbaI don't believe anything written by a man named Keff.

[Brazil]

why tiago has accepted that ???

[alchemist]

We're re-signing Money Mase. You heard it here first...



:vomit:
:madrun :pctoss

[ElNono]

Are you legitimately revealing something you heard from a source, or just trying to scare us? :lol

Only TPark has sources. I'm just trying to scare you all. :lol

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/9926/splitdecision.jpg

haha awesome

[lurker23]

Only TPark has sources. I'm just trying to scare you all. :lol

Glad to hear it. :toast Your fake sources are legitimately scary.

[Juanobili]

So they signed Tiago before RJ and Bonner? Nice... now they have an idea of who else they can bring in with the money left over

[Danny.Zhu]

Thank you Tiago.

[canadianspursfan]

My apoligies as I probably missed this in a previous thread but can someone tell me why Splitters salary has to come out of the MLE?

[Blackjack]

Well done, jaffers. :lol

[Mel_13]

My apoligies as I probably missed this in a previous thread but can someone tell me why Splitters salary has to come out of the MLE?


Splitter was a first round draft pick. Once three years had passed since his draft date, the Spurs were allowed to pay him more than the rookie scale. In order to do that, the team had to use cap space (didn't have any) or the MLE.

[ChumpDumper]

My apoligies as I probably missed this in a previous thread but can someone tell me why Splitters salary has to come out of the MLE?It's too much to come out of anything else.

[canadianspursfan]

Splitter was a first round draft pick. Once three years had passed since his draft date, the Spurs were allowed to pay him more than the rookie scale. In order to do that, the team had to use cap space (didn't have any) or the MLE.

Thanks!

[galvatron3000]

so are we taking a chance on T Mac

[kaji157]

Please if some cap gurus can enlight me on this.

If Splitter deal is finally structured as 3.03, 3.33, 3.64 for the 3 years. Does all of this come out of the MLE?
I ask because by the rookie scale contract exception, we could have signed splitter to a contract worth 0.7823, 0.841 and 0.8997 for the first 3 years without counting against the MLE.

My question is, does the total ammount of the count against the MLE or only the difference between the contract given vs the Rookie Scale Contract for a 2007 28th pick???

[DPG21920]

Please if some cap gurus can enlight me on this.

If Splitter deal is finally structured as 3.03, 3.33, 3.64 for the 3 years. Does all of this come out of the MLE?
I ask because by the rookie scale contract exception, we could have signed splitter to a contract worth 0.7823, 0.841 and 0.8997 for the first 3 years without counting against the MLE.

My question is, does the total ammount of the count against the MLE or only the difference between the contract given vs the Rookie Scale Contract for a 2007 28th pick???

It all counts against the MLE.

[Dex]

Please if some cap gurus can enlight me on this.

If Splitter deal is finally structured as 3.03, 3.33, 3.64 for the 3 years. Does all of this come out of the MLE?
I ask because by the rookie scale contract exception, we could have signed splitter to a contract worth 0.7823, 0.841 and 0.8997 for the first 3 years without counting against the MLE.

My question is, does the total ammount of the count against the MLE or only the difference between the contract given vs the Rookie Scale Contract for a 2007 28th pick???

The full $3.4 million for this season counts against the MLE. Spurs missed their chance to sign Splitter to lighter rookie contracts by letting him brew in Spain.

The MLE is given to each team over the cap (or under the cap by less than the amount of the MLE) each year for a new player signing. As a new free agent, the 3.4 million given to Splitter will only count against the Spurs' MLE amount this year.

Next year, Splitter will be another contract on the books. Thus, it only factors into whether the Spurs will either be under the cap and have cap space to spend (less likely), or will be over the cap and have a new MLE to use (more likely).

[Lebowski Brickowski]

Pop is really high on him. He thinks that Tiago is just as smart as Oberto and much better at every aspect of the game.

Holy shit that would be AWESOME

[EricB]

Thats how I've always heard him described, a smarter, taller better Oberto with the same BBall IQ

[EricB]

BTW, props to the FO if this is indeed true getting Splitter for Scola money.

[BackHome]

Sign Ronnie Brewer......PLEASE..........................

[TD 21]

According to Monroe, the exact dollar figure is $11.016 million and the Spurs are left with 2.365 of their mid-level exception.

[Spurtacus]

Sick deal for the Spurs.

[kaji157]

BTW, props to the FO if this is indeed true getting Splitter for Scola money.

Would have been great to have both instead of Bonner.

[Agloco]

can the MLE and LLE be combined?

No

[Agloco]

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/9926/splitdecision.jpg

lol....got damm Jaffies on point again :lol

[TDMVPDPOY]

josh howard will be a nice pickup if he can get his act together,

maybe in a new surrounding could change his his attitude

[Manu-of-steel]

Good job by the FO. This is one evidence how great our FO is in getting a good deal. While the other teams are over paying players, we are getting our money's worth.

[Ginobili2Duncan]

josh howard will be a nice pickup if he can get his act together,

maybe in a new surrounding could change his his attitude


http://www.theunticket.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/jesus-howard-weed.jpg

[TJastal]

Matt Barnes or Josh Howard would each be good additions as starting quality 3's

[TJastal]

Good job by the FO. This is one evidence how great our FO is in getting a good deal. While the other teams are over paying players, we are getting our money's worth.

*cough* Matt Bonner *cough*

[Mugen]

hopefully he can guard odom.

[EricB]

*cough* Matt Bonner *cough*


Cough Johan Petro before Bonner.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

BTW, props to the FO if this is indeed true getting Splitter for Scola money.

We could have both right now if it weren't for Pop's mancrush on Bonehead.

[Dro210]

Bonner at the much talked about 4 years, ~4 million per year on a contending team trying to get better is just as bad if not worse than Petro for 3 years, ~3 million with a team that won 12 games last year.

Petro can't make New Jersey any worse... Bonner sure as hell brings us down tho. These kind of moves are expected from the New Jerseys of the league... They're expected NOT to happen in San Antonio.

Also, at least at 24, Petro can still potentially get better in the next 3 years.... unlike Bonner, who is already too slow to be in the NBA, and will be 34 by the time his contract is up.

That said, hopefully the deal isn't even close to that reported amount of years or dollars. Maybe they won't sign him at all, and it's just a worldwide joke being played on Spurs fans right now.... I can dream.


(and nobody try and twist this into me saying the Petro signing is a good deal.... both deals are absolutely ridiculous... but New Jersey's sorry squad can much more afford a signing like this than the Spurs can in the last few years of trying to win a championship.)

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Holy crap! That is awesome! Thank you Tiago! :D

So now we have money to sign Rasual Butler or someone like him. ;)

[Man In Black]

With Bell, he has history in San Antonio. He was the last player cut in 2000. It was Pop who made a call on Bell's behalf that got him to Philly and Larry Brown. That was the year they made the Finals. It wouldn't shock me, if 1 Virgin Island Native, wanted to play with the best player ever from the Virgin Islands and the best to ever play his position in the game.
I also think that Bell's history as a staunch defender has given him a levity that approached what Bruce had. In effect, refs will let him play tough because they know that his job is to play against the best scorers in the L. Plus he had a money 3 ball.

If not him, I'm high on Josh Howard because he is highly effective in limited minutes and when pressure is high. I don't know if cannabis is the reason he seemed so cool under pressure but if he can find a legal way to stay cool and still be effective. He's solid too.

Then the other usual suspects, like Barnes, Butler or even maybe another crack at RJ? I want him to be the player I expected but if not, those other guys give the Spurs added dimension.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Bonner at the much talked about 4 years, ~4 million per year on a contending team trying to get better is just as bad if not worse than Petro for 3 years, ~3 million with a team that won 12 games last year.

Petro can't make New Jersey any worse... Bonner sure as hell brings us down tho. These kind of moves are expected from the New Jerseys of the league... They're expected NOT to happen in San Antonio.

Also, at least at 24, Petro can still potentially get better in the next 3 years.... unlike Bonner, who is already too slow to be in the NBA, and will be 34 by the time his contract is up.

That said, hopefully the deal isn't even close to that reported amount of years or dollars. Maybe they won't sign him at all, and it's just a worldwide joke being played on Spurs fans right now.... I can dream.

Very odd off-season for the Spurs FO...

-->draft - very solid.
-->let RJM and Bogans walk - good.
-->RJ opts out! Yippee Ki-yay Motherfucker!!!
-->Bonner re-signs for 16/4 - WTF???
-->Splitter signs 10/3 - WTF??? in a good way.

Odd, to say the least.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Bonner at the much talked about 4 years, ~4 million per year on a contending team trying to get better is just as bad if not worse than Petro for 3 years, ~3 million with a team that won 12 games last year.



would the raptors be interested taking this garbage back in a sign n trade for rasho the greatest center to ever play the game?

[SPURSGOAT]

Holy crap! What a frigg'n steal!!

[angelbelow]

Cough Johan Petro before Bonner.

Yes but barely.

I think both deserve 2 million or under. Petro more so though.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

With Bell, he has history in San Antonio. He was the last player cut in 2000. It was Pop who made a call on Bell's behalf that got him to Philly and Larry Brown. That was the year they made the Finals. It wouldn't shock me, if 1 Virgin Island Native, wanted to play with the best player ever from the Virgin Islands and the best to ever play his position in the game.
I also think that Bell's history as a staunch defender has given him a levity that approached what Bruce had. In effect, refs will let him play tough because they know that his job is to play against the best scorers in the L. Plus he had a money 3 ball.

If not him, I'm high on Josh Howard because he is highly effective in limited minutes and when pressure is high. I don't know if cannabis is the reason he seemed so cool under pressure but if he can find a legal way to stay cool and still be effective. He's solid too.

Then the other usual suspects, like Barnes, Butler or even maybe another crack at RJ? I want him to be the player I expected but if not, those other guys give the Spurs added dimension.

I really like the idea of Bell too, but I'm scared that maybe through age and injury he's lost a step. Worth the risk though for 2-2.7mil.

Do you really think Howard could be got for 2.7mil? If so, another decent roll of the dice.

I think we'll end up with Butler though.