Jefferson to UTAH....oh well nice going CUBAN

[Amarelooms]

so frustrated at the idiots in the Mavs front office....so slow to act and moronic. Sucks cheering for them. I wish Dirk would have left

:elephant

[sefant77]

Maybe the roster move is matching Matthews :depressed

[MavDynasty]

dirk should be pissed

[The_Worlds_finest]

Yous are as bad as cuban. You all lost to a weak 7th seed Spurs team. You wishing you had reason to wear your "wez stacked" shirts. Al Jefferson is bum. Your better off without him. Besides Splitter is going to bitch you alls team anyway

[MavDynasty]

Yous are as bad as cuban. You all lost to a weak 7th seed Spurs team. You wishing you had reason to wear your "wez stacked" shirts. Al Jefferson is bum. Your better off without him. Besides Splitter is going to bitch you alls team anyway

sup grey named spurfan

[DPG21920]

Come on Lebron put your Mavericks jersey on, then it's time to get it on, gotta come to Dallas.

[MavDynasty]

Come on Lebron put your Mavericks jersey on, then it's time to get in on, gotta come to Dallas.

:lol they changed the website

http://lebrontothemavs.com/

[DPG21920]

:lol they changed the website

http://lebrontothemavs.com/

:lol tha f*ck?

[monosylab1k]

that escalated quickly

[The_Worlds_finest]

Dfw loves the dirk

[monosylab1k]

better than san antonio loving the dick

[Amarelooms]

too bad for Dirk...he really deserves better. oh well.....not the end of the world except no gm's are going to give the Mavs even a decent deal now.....Mavs looking really foolish lol

:elephant

[Findog]

Great job Cubes.

[monosylab1k]

because it's dallas

[DPG21920]

If the Mavs don't use Damp's contract, Cubes just royally screwed Dirk. That is not right.

[MavDynasty]

If the Mavs don't use Damp's contract, Cubes just royally screwed Dirk. That is not right.

nothing new

[DPG21920]

I am not even joking. I am a huge Dirk fan. He took less money (for absolutely no reason) and he did so in good faith.

[Findog]

If the Mavs don't use Damp's contract, Cubes just royally screwed Dirk. That is not right.

Whole heartedly agree. Dirk should've never agreed to come back to the same old shit.

[monosylab1k]

If the Mavs don't use Damp's contract, Cubes just royally screwed Dirk. That is not right.

at this point they have to use it. Dirk won't be the only one angry. Mavs fans were promised huge things form the DUST chip and if they piss it down the drain, there will be hell to pay.

Mavs fans are already as disillusioned as they've ever been after the 1st round exit this season.

[monosylab1k]

also, dirk hasn't officially signed yet. Not too late to sign elsewhere.

[Findog]

at this point they have to use it. Dirk won't be the only one angry. Mavs fans were promised huge things form the DUST chip and if they piss it down the drain, there will be hell to pay.

Mavs fans are already as disillusioned as they've ever been after the 1st round exit this season.

Can you imagine? A chance to acquire arguably the best low-post scorer in the league, fill a major hole, give us a chance to match up with the Laker frontline, and they sat there holding their dicks arguing over the contracts of Matt Carroll and DeShawn Stevenson?

[MavDynasty]

Dirk can always back out, I won't be pissed at him. Blame the FO for not doing shit and fucking around but don't be mad at Dirk.

[Findog]

Mark "Billionaire Bottomless Pockets" Cuban let this fall through over the contracts of DeShawn Stevenson and Matt Carroll.

[monosylab1k]

Can you imagine? A chance to acquire arguably the best low-post scorer in the league, fill a major hole, give us a chance to match up with the Laker frontline, and they sat there holding their dicks arguing over the contracts of Matt Carroll and DeShawn Stevenson?

It hurts my brain trying to comprehend it.

The fan backlash is going to be pretty severe over this. They've got to do something else, and in a hurry. The fans are already pissed about the team underachieving for the 4th year in a row.

[Findog]

How in the hell did Cuban think he ever had leverage with Cleveland and Utah also holding trade exceptions?

[HarlemHeat37]

I'm still of the belief that the Mavs must have a serious backup or #1 plan, I don't think they are this incompetent..they probably have a serious lead on something somewhere else..

[Shank]

I'm still of the belief that the Mavs must have a serious backup or #1 plan, I don't think they are this incompetent..

You'd be surprised at how crafty they "think" they are.

[Zelophehad]

Can you blame Dallas? I mean who wouldn't jump on a package of Carroll, Stevenson, and DUST for an all star level center? :rolleyes

[Findog]

It hurts my brain trying to comprehend it.

The fan backlash is going to be pretty severe over this. They've got to do something else, and in a hurry. The fans are already pissed about the team underachieving for the 4th year in a row.

Why in the fuck did Cuban argue about having to pay a few million more in luxury tax over acquiring Jefferson when Dirk accepted $14 million less than the max?

How the hell does Cuban look Dirk in the eye and tell him man to man that Jefferson was too steep a price to pay? If I was Dirk I'd be like "Give me my fucking $14 million back then, asshole."

[ElNono]

They had this dish served for over a week. They thought they were in control... just wow

[monosylab1k]

I don't think they are this incompetent..

tbh these are the same guys that wouldn't even listen to a Dirk for Kobe offer, wouldn't even listen to a Kaman/Davis for Kidd offer, and held onto josh howard for way too long.

[ElNono]

Can Cubes fall back into a S&T for Scola or some such? Did the Rockets even offer him anything? I know it's a major step down from Al, but it's something.

[Shank]

They had this dish served for over a week. They thought they were in control... just wow

They sat on their hands and haggled, assuming they were in control. They went in with an "eh, we're good either way"-type mentality, shooting for the moon. I think things were progressing where they were even going to swap out either Stevenson or Carroll (Carroll preferred). But no. Dumb fucks probably asked for a $50 million trade exception, the rights to Rubio and an inflatable pool full of cocaine. Why? Because it's Dallas!

[MavDynasty]

This just proves that you can have all the money in the world but you need a brain to use it.

[ElNono]

Now we need the Cubes and the Donnie troll ensuring everything will be fine.. lol

[Shank]

Cuban has "Gasol Deal" on the brain. He's obsessed with it. If he could, he'd make a mountain out of mashed potatoes over it.

[Findog]

Cuban has "Gasol Deal" on the brain. He's obsessed with it. If he could, he'd make a mountain out of mashed potatoes over it.

Jefferson was as good as anything they were going to get with DUST. Not "Gasol" trade, but close enough. They're going to piss this thing away and come away with nothing.

[21_Blessings]

This just proves that you can have all the money in the world but you need a brain to use it.

Mav fan went from hoping they could get Lebron to being bitter about missing out on Al Jefferson.

:lol

[ElNono]

Jefferson was as good as anything they were going to get with DUST. Not "Gasol" trade, but close enough. They're going to piss this thing away and come away with nothing.

Jefferson is a stud in my book. Unless they know something we don't, this has to rank up there with the most retarded moves ever.

[MavDynasty]

Mav fan went from hoping they could get Lebron to being bitter about missing out on Al Jefferson.

:lol

lol thinking mav fans were serious about lebron

[Amarelooms]

Well this will be the ultimate test for Cuban and the clowns in the MBT....can they get something now or will they be holding their small penis yet again.

We need a backup Center and SG bad as hell

:elephant

[BlackSwordsMan]

Wenotstacked

[MavDynasty]

Jefferson is a stud in my book. Unless they know something we don't, this has to rank up there with the most retarded moves ever.

They are still in denial thinking they can get Chris Paul.

[Findog]

Once you factor in resources, do the Mavs have the most incompetent front office in the league?

[ElNono]

Cubes is always willing to spend. That's why I don't get this.

As Harlem said, they must have something to fall back to.

CP3 is going nowhere this offseason.

[Zelophehad]

Jefferson was as good as anything they were going to get with DUST. Not "Gasol" trade, but close enough. They're going to piss this thing away and come away with nothing.
I whined about potentially getting nothing for the DUST chip elsewhere and everyone scoffed me and said "Don't worry, there's no chance the Mavs get nothing for it. Don't worry."

[DPG21920]

I was only half joking when I was messing with amarelooms talking about Cuban taking advantage of Dirk's kind and loyal nature, but I was also kind of serious. Dirk is so damn nice and loyal.

This would be a huge slap in the face if Cubes let this once highly regarded asset go to waste.

There is no way Dirk backs out though. Absolutely none.

[Zelophehad]

I was only half joking when I was messing with amarelooms talking about Cuban taking advantage of Dirk's kind and loyal nature, but I was also kind of serious. Dirk is so damn nice and loyal.

This would be a huge slap in the face if Cubes let this once highly regarded asset go to waste.

There is no way Dirk backs out though. Absolutely none.
Like any Mav fan here doesn't know that.

[BadOdor]

No way Cuban does this to dirk - letting him take a pay cut but balking at the Jefferson deal because of the price.

He must have a plan in place.

[Findog]

Cubes is always willing to spend. That's why I don't get this.

As Harlem said, they must have something to fall back to.

CP3 is going nowhere this offseason.

Not always. He's buried himself in the luxury tax with his financial commitments, but every now and then, he'll draw a line in the sand and proclaim something isn't good value. Nash was willing to give him a little bit of a discount and not force him to match every penny of the Phoenix offer, and he refused.

There is not necessarily a master plan here. They are just incompetent.

[HeatChamps]

:lol

[dirk4mvp]

we love our boys in blue.

[Shank]

Not always. He's buried himself in the luxury tax with his financial commitments, but every now and then, he'll draw a line in the sand and proclaim something isn't good value. Nash was willing to give him a little bit of a discount and not force him to match every penny of the Phoenix offer, and he refused.

There is not necessarily a master plan here. They are just incompetent.

As of late, though, his line in the sand has been a "happy, way better than we expected financially"-line. Meaning, they're more than willing to take on salary as they believe they're ahead of the game, money-wise, at this point. With this deal, the money was never the concern.

[MiamiHeat]

Dirk can always back out, I won't be pissed at him. Blame the FO for not doing shit and fucking around but don't be mad at Dirk.

fuck that

Dirk will forever tarnish his legacy, backstabbing Dallas. What a cowardly betrayal.

He will forever be known as someone who couldn't get it done by himself, so he has to leave to another team.

:lol

[Edward]

fuck that

Dirk will forever tarnish his legacy, backstabbing Dallas. What a cowardly betrayal.

He will forever be known as someone who couldn't get it done by himself, so he has to leave to another team.

:lol


Dirk was never thought of as someone who could get it done by himself. Lebron was, till July 8th.

[Ashy Larry]

yall stacked

[cobbler]

Ouuuuuuuuuuch!

[Greg Oden]

yall stacked
Ashy Larry
Join Date: 2-25-2010

[Ashy Larry]

fuck that

Dirk will forever tarnish his legacy, backstabbing Dallas. What a cowardly betrayal.

He will forever be known as someone who couldn't get it done by himself, so he has to leave to another team.

:lol



Dirk will probably do that, but damn sure not in the prime of his career .......

[Ashy Larry]

Ashy Larry
Join Date: 2-25-2010


and yet, I have 25% of the amount of posts that you have ...... now go iron that wrinkled shit on the top on your melon. top of ya head looks like a coochie

[Indazone]

we love our boys in blue.

Dirk would look good in Red.

[Greg Oden]

and yet, I have 25% of the amount of posts that you have ...... now go iron that wrinkled shit on the top on your melon. top of ya head looks like a coochie

lol post gasol laker fan

[My Fault]

Damn Jefferson-Dirk could've been nice.

[Ashy Larry]

lol post gasol laker fan

uh no .... Laker fan probably before you were born. Saw the one time the Blazers really did something of substance in this league, 1977, when they swept the Lakers in the Western Conference Finals and been a fan since.

You just worry about making it through the first month of a season.

[Ashy Larry]

Damn Jefferson-Dirk could've been nice.


how would dude have reacted in meaningful games ??? Never played any in Boston or Minnesota. So I guess we'll see now for the Utah Jazz .....

[HarlemHeat37]

uh no .... Laker fan probably before you were born. Saw the one time the Blazers really did something of substance in this league, 1977, when they swept the Lakers in the Western Conference Finals and been a fan since.

You just worry about making it through the first month of a season.

It's not actually Greg Oden, btw..

[MiamiHeat]

ok, what is

"DUST chip"

??

[Findog]

ok, what is

"DUST chip"

??

Dampier's expiring contract. Final year is not guaranteed. Mavs can use it to match salary in a trade for a team looking to dump a contract (and the talent attached to that contract), whereas the team receiving it can simply decline to pick up the option on the final year. In theory it is a trade chip for the Mavs and a cost-cutting tool for the team receiving it.

[sribb43]

So much for the pick n roll/pop offense in UTAH with AL. Jazz will have a different offense in the halfcourt

What a failed day in Mavs land, Haslem says no thanks and takes less $$ with the Heat and then the damn Mormons swoop in and take Big AL :bang

[Greg Oden]

uh no .... Laker fan probably before you were born. Saw the one time the Blazers really did something of substance in this league, 1977, when they swept the Lakers in the Western Conference Finals and been a fan since.

You just worry about making it through the first month of a season.

cool man, I believe you.

[Ashy Larry]

It's not actually Greg Oden, btw..

oh I know ..... lol


well it might be.

I mean 2,000 posts in nearly four years. Must mean his fingers are always injured as well......

[balli]

Jazz will have a different offense in the halfcourt
Not in Coach Sloan's halfcourt. We might harken back to the Malone days when we'd throw into the post iso more often than we have recently, but D-Will's too good and Sloan's too sure of it to give up the pick and pop/roll. Al's about to learn what that shit's all about.

[Ashy Larry]

cool man, I believe you.


it's all good ...... no harm, no foul

[Greg Oden]

I joined after the Gasol trade.

[MiamiHeat]

Dampier's expiring contract. Final year is not guaranteed. Mavs can use it to match salary in a trade for a team looking to dump a contract (and the talent attached to that contract), whereas the team receiving it can simply decline to pick up the option on the final year. In theory it is a trade chip for the Mavs and a cost-cutting tool for the team receiving it.

woah, when the fuck did Dampier get a 13mil a year contract?

that's a great asset, yeah.

a quick look at http://hoopshype.com/salaries/dallas.htm

says you got 10mil expiring in Caron Butler too.


shoulda taken jefferson ;/

[Ashy Larry]

Not in Coach Sloan's halfcourt. We might harken back to the Malone days when we'd throw into the post iso more often than we have recently, but D-Will's too good and Sloan's too sure of it to give up the pick and pop/roll. Al's about to learn what that shit's all about.

I love Jerry Sloan .... dude does not fuck around. Al better sac up messing around with J. Sloan

[MiamiHeat]

What a failed day in Mavs land, Haslem says no thanks and takes less $$ with the Heat and then the damn Mormons swoop in and take Big AL :bang

you should be ecstatic about the haslem result.

$6.6 mil a year for a PF that you don't need is hilarious.

the HEAT got him for $4mil, which is a good price for a solid bench player who just happens to be Wade's best best friend and a Miami fan favorite...

[MiamiHeat]

holy fuck jason terry is overpaid ;/

[Booharv]

I know its time to go to bed when I'm starting to feel bad for Mav fans.

[MiamiHeat]

I think the Mavs should try to get rid of Jason terry's contract.

Mavs should not be paying big bucks to a non-defensive SG....

basically, build a massive front line to pair with Dirk, simply because Dirk is not a post up player anyway.

then grab a defensive minded SG.... if he can stroke the 3, huge plus.

damn that roster is a mess imo.

[Ashy Larry]

I'm always injured and the top of my head looks like a pussy

[Findog]

woah, when the fuck did Dampier get a 13mil a year contract?

that's a great asset, yeah.

a quick look at http://hoopshype.com/salaries/dallas.htm

says you got 10mil expiring in Caron Butler too.


shoulda taken jefferson ;/

Bulls offered us Deng for Dampier. I'm glad Dallas turned that down, because we're stacked at SF and they didn't want to help the Bulls clear cap space during the LeBron sweepstakes. And the Wolves were willing to give us Jefferson for it. That should tell you how much other teams would like to have it. Dallas is going to wait too long and get nothing for it, because I believe the deadline to guarantee the final year is August. At that point they could pick up the option and then Dampier would function as a simple expiring, but if they're interested in adding talent, it would be best to use it before August. They could pair Damp/Butler together and the other team would be looking at one year of Caron for $10.5 million.

[MiamiHeat]

Bulls offered us Deng for Dampier. I'm glad Dallas turned that down, because we're stacked at SF and they didn't want to help the Bulls clear cap space during the LeBron sweepstakes. And the Wolves were willing to give us Jefferson for it. That should tell you how much other teams would like to have it. Dallas is going to wait too long and get nothing for it, because I believe the deadline to guarantee the final year is August. At that point they could pick up the option and then Dampier would function as a simple expiring, but if they're interested in adding talent, it would be best to use it before August. They could pair Damp/Butler together and the other team would be looking at one year of Caron for $10.5 million.

im not sure, but is Jason Terry's contract an albatross or would there be interest for him?

he should be a top priority to unload....that contract is horrendous. mavs could use a defensive SG to pair with Marion.

[Findog]

im not sure, but is Jason Terry's contract an albatross or would there be interested for him?

he should be a top priority to unload....that contract is horrendous. mavs could use a defensive SG to pair with Marion.

I think his contract works in a similar fashion in that he needs to earn a certain amount of minutes this year to fully guarantee the final year, and the Wolves were willing to take him back...meaning he's not just a contract but still has on-court value to teams. Terry's contract is moveable.

[Findog]

Also, don't get your hopes up about Iggy/Brand. Mavs will finally get under the cap next summer if the only salary they add is the MLE. Iggy/Brand would ruin cap flexibility for years to come. They'll get under the cap to make a run at Melo/whoever else next summer, but won't land any of them.

[Greg Oden]

If Donnie or Mark think there's even the slightest chance of landing Melo next year, they should be taken out back and be put out of their misery. If he even goes anywhere, he's going to New York.

[Zelophehad]

Also, don't get your hopes up about Iggy/Brand.
Too late.

raVIciJMezk

And now that we have that Mahinmi trade chip is there anything to stop us from getting CP3 as well?

I'm already salivating over CP3 to AI alley oops! Two playmakers and an all defense backcourt!!

[Zelophehad]

Fucking front office.

[Findog]

Let me see if I can catch up to what Cuban and them were thinking, if that's even possible. The Wolves offered Jefferson for the "Dust Chip" straight up. Wiser minds would have made that deal because it's essential trading Dampier for Jefferson. Cuban somehow warps his mind into thinking, well, we're giving them the highly regard "Dust Chip," and they will basically release Damp, therefore, we help them out by allowing them to free up cap space for other deals. Fuck that, if we're taking on Jefferson's cap space, then we should at least force them to take on some of our cap space. Donnie, you tell those bastards that if they want us to help them, then they need to take on 8.4 mil in contracts of Deshawn and Matt. And I don't give a fuck if Matt is still owed three years, he has an opt out on is third year, which he told us in good faith that he would definitely opt out of. You tell em take it or leave it.

Wiser minds would be thinking, you mean to tell me they want to get Jefferson for basically 5.5 mil once it's all said and done?

Don't forget Dirk signed for $14 million less than he could've gotten over the life of his new contract. And he did so after the Mavs promised him that they would leave no stone unturned in improving the roster to try and win a championship. Dirk could've been a hard ass and insisted on the full max.

[Killakobe81]

Come on Lebron put your Mavericks jersey on, then it's time to get it on, gotta come to Dallas.

LOL ...Ben & The Skin ...

[DesignatedT]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs096.ash2/38126_10150227961320333_828580332_13557713_6532218 _n.jpg

[jacobdrj]

What. The. Fuck.

The Jazz finally get rid of their undersized, under-motivated, under-performing, defenseless, passionless,, injury-prone, 'power-free' power forward to make room for a better player already on their bench, only to replace that lazy-ass power forward they just got rid of with his clone?

Fuck you Utah Jazz...

[DazedAndConfused]

Cuban has got to be one of the dumbest owners in basketball. I don't doubt his passion, but the guy has consistently surrounded Dirk with C+ talent. What the fuck does he expect from the teams he fields?

[FkLA]

fucking lol

Mavs never dissapoint when it comes to providing epic failures. 3 yrs/10 mill for Splitter!!!!

[Jloyola]

Everyone else is battling for 2nd...

[spursfan1000]

sup grey named spurfan


:wakeup you know that just means that he wasnt a original spurs talk member (like me) dumb fuck.

[badfish22]

In better news, I just got through watching the Mavs SL game. Roddy has ice in his veins.

[spursfan1000]

In better news, I just got through watching the Mavs SL game. Roddy has ice in his veins.


he wont get playing time under Carlisle :downspin:

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

What. The. Fuck.

The Jazz finally get rid of their undersized, under-motivated, under-performing, defenseless, passionless,, injury-prone, 'power-free' power forward to make room for a better player already on their bench, only to replace that lazy-ass power forward they just got rid of with his clone?

Fuck you Utah Jazz...

I agree.

Millsap must be PISSED.

When the fuck are the Jazz gonna give that guy his starting role and 36mpg? :pctoss

[sefant77]

Pay Dirk 16 million less. Pay Marion 39 million.

Offer Haslem at least 20 million but dont take Jefferson for 42.

Yeah...

Of course Jefferson has a weak defense, but jefferson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing

If they really dont trade for Al they have to find a even better trade or they will get some serious burning by the fans.

[sribb43]

Dont worry guys, the mavs front office is holding onto DUST for CP3 :lmao

[Brazil]

meanwhile Spurs get Splitter for the price of fucking Petro !

[21_Blessings]

meanwhile Spurs get Splitter for the price of fucking Petro !

Good job. You guys finally signed your 1st round draft pick 4 years later. :rolleyes

Scola :bking

[Muser]

Scola :bking


Sick burn bro!

[picc84]

Bron did it for the kids.

[Brazil]

Good job. You guys finally signed your 1st round draft pick 4 years later. :rolleyes

Scola :bking

better now with a very good price than never


for scola don't worry we have a new one on the making with Ian Mahinmi

[21_Blessings]

better now with a very good price than never


Great. Spurs are still irrelevant in the West.

Have a nice day.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

for scola don't worry we have a new one on the making with Ian Mahinmi


Then I guess the Spurs gave Scola to both of the other teams in Texas.

[leemajors]

better than san antonio loving the dick

:tu