Al Jefferson traded to Utah

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

SpearsNBAYahoo Wolves to trade Jefferson to Jazz for future 1st rd pick, 1st rd pick from Mem in Brewer trade and a trade exception, Y! Sports has learned. http://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo

[Findog]

We love our boys in blue!

[BlackSwordsMan]

Westacked

[BlackSwordsMan]

I really do feel bad for dirk.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Poor Dirk.

[Trainwreck2100]

well the good new is you can still waive dampier

[usdane]

Wow, Jazz got Jefferson for a bag of peanuts.

[Findog]

They're not going to use the Dust chip. In terms of a talent upgrade and filling a major weakness (efficient low-post scoring), they can't realistically do better than Al Jefferson. If paying $14 million a year for a third big was too steep for Cuban, so is anything else that might realistically crop up. Without taking into account the financial impact of adding Jefferson's salary, swapping Dampier for him is a huge win, talent-wise. The whole purpose of the "Dust Chip" was to get a major upgrade in talent. This was a very good opportunity and they passed on it.

Hornets will not trade Chris Paul.

[resistanze]

It's funny because Jefferson would probably better the Mavs' chances against the Lakers than CP3 would anyways.

[Findog]

It's funny because Jefferson would probably better the Mavs' chances against the Lakers than CP3 would anyways.

Yep. CP3 is great, but the Lakers won back to back titles with Fisher/Farmar and the Celtics won with the 2008 version of Rajon Rondo. If you want to beat the Lakers, you have to be able to match up with the length of their frontline, and Jefferson would've given the Mavs a fighting chance.

[Findog]

We should probably start calling it the "Dump Chip."

[angelbelow]

Out of all the years Cuban decides to cheap out now?

[Findog]

If the Mavs don't take on any additional salary besides the MLE, then they'll be under the cap next summer. Jefferson would've changed that. If Cuban wasn't willing to wreck that flexibility for Jefferson, then he won't for Iggy/Brand.

[clambake]

has dirk actually signed his deal?

[Edward]

I guess it's not as frustrating since the Suns weren't so close, but I'm plenty pissed the Suns had a $16 million trade exception that they decided to use on Hedo Turkoglu and Josh Childress rather than go after big Al. A healthy big Al is virtually no downgrade to Amare at all.

[Man About Town]

I was too depressed about this to eat Long John Silver's off a hooker's ass like I always do on Tuesday Mornings.

[8FOR!3]

Jazz are gonna be tough with Deron Williams and Al Jefferson this year, that fits their system well.

[JMarkJohns]

I guess it's not as frustrating since the Suns weren't so close, but I'm plenty pissed the Suns had a $16 million trade exception that they decided to use on Hedo Turkoglu and Josh Childress rather than go after big Al. A healthy big Al is virtually no downgrade to Amare at all.

Al has knee issues, isn't athletic, isn't a defender and hasn't looked like "Al" in two seasons.

Good get for the Jazz, but the Suns weren't giving up two 1sts to net him, and I'm glad of this.

[Edward]

Yeah this is a great move for Utah. Too bad they decided to waste NY's pick on a useless honky over Xavier Henry (:lmao) or they might actually be good.

[badfish22]

:lmao cuban and donnie

[JMarkJohns]

Yeah this is a great move for Utah. Too bad they decided to waste NY's pick on a useless honky over Xavier Henry (:lmao) or they might actually be good.

Hayward has potential, but I agree. Henry was the smart choice.

[Edward]

Al has knee issues, isn't athletic, isn't a defender and hasn't looked like "Al" in two seasons.

Good get for the Jazz, but the Suns weren't giving up two 1sts to net him, and I'm glad of this.

Try one season. He had an ACL replacement surgery, it might take to time to return to form but ACL replacement has a high success rate. The Suns training staff got Grant Hill healthy and had Shaq in shape while he was here, getting Al Jefferson healthy and toned up wouldn't be half as hard as that.

3 years of big Al >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 years of Turkoglu

[JMarkJohns]

He's still not an athlete, and there's still the issue of Minnesota wanting some 1st-round compensation. Best, I figure, the Suns were willing to include was Clark. Getting a Memphis Grizzlies first is worth more than that.

[mattb_25]

I'll never figure out what the fuck Cuban and Donnie want to do with this team. It feels like they don't want to get young except with Roddy, but we had a chance to get a 25 year old stud with a low post presence that the Mavs have never had. So far we've talked about getting old shaq, old bell, old haslem, and some other old people.

They wont get Paul, so I just don't see how they could of passed on Al. Everyone always talks about how its nice to have a gm who spends A LOT of money, but the problem with Cuban is he dosen't know what the fuck hes doing when it comes to signing people, etc..

That also falls on the fail gm we have in Donnie, wanting to sign these players for 6+ years when they are already past their prime. They are mind fucking me right now, I just don't see what direction they are trying to go in anymore :bang

[stretch]

I know the Mavs have done some strange things in the past, but at least some of them were justifiable, such as Kobe for Dirk, or as mono constantly claims but hasn't yet provided proof (not saying its not true, just that I've never seen it before), Kaman/Davis for Kidd.

But this... I just don't understand what the justification is for it. Money? They are already over the cap as is, and as you said, the purpose of DUST was to provide an upgrade in talent, not an upgrade in talent AND money. Impossible. Just doesnt make sense.

Hopefully they have something else that they are onto that they just havent released any information about, because even the biggest of morons couldnt have let a trade like that get away without some sort of other reasonable plan in place. I just have a hard time believing that they are that dumb. Hopefully they prove me right... but my hopes aren't very high at this point...

[Edward]

Hayward has potential


He might be the next Joe Alexander!

[Man About Town]

Shaq, Dirk, Marion, Kidd, Jet, Caron....2004 NBA Champs Baby!

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[badfish22]

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[Edward]

He's still not an athlete, and there's still the issue of Minnesota wanting some 1st-round compensation. Best, I figure, the Suns were willing to include was Clark. Getting a Memphis Grizzlies first is worth more than that.

He's way more athletic than a lazy Turkish fatass who only plays hard in a contract year.

[JMarkJohns]

He might be the next Joe Alexander!

It's a crapshoot, for sure, but Hayward isn't anything like Alexander as a player. But whatever... like I said, Henry was a better pick.

[badfish22]

50 win ecstasy

[mavsfan1000]

Cuban and Donnie don't get it. You need young talent and athleticism to win. This team has no chance with old players.

[Man About Town]

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[picc84]

crofl mavs

[resistanze]

God damn that cheesecake is good, I had that in Chicago.

lol Cuban

[JMarkJohns]

He's way more athletic than a lazy Turkish fatass who only plays hard in a contract year.

Don't be stupid. Turkoglu's best season was the year prior to his contract year, and he had been progressing very nicely for several years prior.

I'm not a fan of the Turkolgu trade, but I wouldn't really like Jefferson either, for: big expense, risk of injury, doesn't address all the needs, doesn't really fit well with up-tempo system.

[Man About Town]

God damn that cheesecake is good, I had that in Chicago.

lol Cuban

You're damn right is. The only thing better than cheesecake from the Cheesecake Factory is cheesecake from the Cheesecake Factory off a stripper's tits. Lap it up!

[Edward]

Don't be stupid. Turkoglu's best season was the year prior to his contract year
And one of his worst seasons was right after he signed a new contract (sup Boris Diaw)


and he had been progressing very nicely for several years prior.
Yes, and then Jameer Nelson emerged and being the one dimensional ball hog Turkoglu is, he became useless trying to co-exist with a great PG. Unless the offense runs through Turk, he's useless.


I'm not a fan of the Turkolgu trade, but I wouldn't really like Jefferson either, for: big expense, risk of injury, doesn't address all the needs, doesn't really fit well with up-tempo system.
Jefferson addresses a lot more trades than Turkoglu. I really don't care about fitting well in the up tempo system since the up tempo system is a proven loser.

[Vertical]

I thought Al to Mavs was a done deal,,,Hoopshype bannered it, I guess not.

[Edward]

addresses a lot more needs*

[JMarkJohns]

Jefferson isn't bringing a Title to Phoenix, either. No chance.

I don't like the Turkolgu acquisition, and I wouldn't really want a Jefferson acquisition as well.

[Man About Town]

Jefferson isn't bringing a Title to Phoenix, either. No chance.

I don't like the Turkolgu acquisition, and I wouldn't really want a Jefferson acquisition as well.

Would a coupon for one free appetizer with the purchase of a full entree to any Scottsdale-area Cheesecake Factory make you feel better?

I have my own VIP Booth at the Cheesecake Factory at the Northwest Highway location here in Dallas and I'm good friends with the owners. I can pull some strings for you.

[Edward]

Jefferson isn't bringing a Title to Phoenix, either. No chance.

I don't like the Turkolgu acquisition, and I wouldn't really want a Jefferson acquisition as well.

Agreed but unlike Turk Big Al is potentially a young building block for the future. He's only one year removed from being a 23 11 player. They aren't winning a championship anytime soon period, so it would make more sense to bring in a young player who might keep them competitive rather than a player who is 30 iirc. Big Al is the bulky low post presence who would compliment Robin Lopez perfectly so he could go back to playing in the high post and using his athleticism more.

[lurker]

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[ffadicted]

I need one of these right now.

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:wow:greedy

[MavDynasty]

So does this rank as a top 3 Front Office Fuckup in Mavericks history?

[picc84]

al jefferson ------> tyson chandler :lmao

[jacobdrj]

I really don't get why yall are doggin' the Mavs... The story is the fuckup by the Jazz. They finally got rid of the player holding them back with Booz goin' to Chi-Town, and then they have to go around and fuck themselves in the ass by replacing him with his clone, despite having their PF of the future ON THEIR ROSTER ALREADY...

The Jazz don't fucking deserve to win. I hope Deron Williams bolts. I hope they are dumb enough to trade away Milsap.

"But I was lucky, because I had a spoon in my hand... So I shoved it up my ass. You may be wondering why. Because if I’m going to hurt that much, I’m going to do it to myself. Oprah calls that ‘empowerment.’” - Lewis Black

[lefty]

yep. Cp3 is great, but the lakers won back to back titles with fisher/farmar and the celtics won with the 2008 version of rajon rondo. If you want to beat the lakers, you have to be able to match up with the length of their frontline, and jefferson would've given the mavs a fighting chance.

+1

[Girasuck]

I really don't get why yall are doggin' the Mavs... The story is the fuckup by the Jazz. They finally got rid of the player holding them back with Booz goin' to Chi-Town, and then they have to go around and fuck themselves in the ass by replacing him with his clone, despite having their PF of the future ON THEIR ROSTER ALREADY...

The Jazz don't fucking deserve to win. I hope Deron Williams bolts. I hope they are dumb enough to trade away Milsap.

"But I was lucky, because I had a spoon in my hand... So I shoved it up my ass. You may be wondering why. Because if I’m going to hurt that much, I’m going to do it to myself. Oprah calls that ‘empowerment.’” - Lewis Black

You're a fucking idiot.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Yeah seriously unless the person's name is Adolph Hitler comparing them to Carlos Boozer is unwarranted.

[Girasuck]

He's still not an athlete, and there's still the issue of Minnesota wanting some 1st-round compensation. Best, I figure, the Suns were willing to include was Clark. Getting a Memphis Grizzlies first is worth more than that.

No it's not. The Memphis pick is protected and will most likely turn out to be a middle first round pick (15-20 range). Our normal first round picks are always in the late first round (20-25 range). We got a better PF than we just lost and only had to give up two crappy picks for him, as well as one of our many trade exceptions. Like another poster said...a bag of peanuts.

[Pistons < Spurs]

chadfordinsider

Koufos! RT @tribjazz Kosta Koufos is in the deal to Minnesota, his agent confirms.

[sook]

Utah will be pretty damn good.

[jacobdrj]

You're a fucking idiot.

Based on your negative name-calling, I will assume you dissagree with my point. Care to elaborate?

[21_Blessings]

Yeah seriously unless the person's name is Adolph Hitler comparing them to Carlos Boozer is unwarranted.

One guy made the same decision you would have and the other guy drives around drunk as fuck despite being a millionaire. Hmmm