Tyson Chandler traded to Dallas

[Pistons < Spurs]

WojYahooNBA

Charlotte has traded Tyson Chandler and Alex Ajinca to Dallas for Dampier, Matt Carroll and Najera, a league source tells Y! Sports.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I was first, butthole.

[Greg Oden]

:smchode:

[MiamiHeat]

so Dallas kept the DAMPIER ULTIMATE SIGN AND TRADE chip for Tyson Chandler?

I mean, yeah. He can rebound....but..

[ElNono]

LOL... there's the DUST chip... From Al Harrington to Tyson Chandler...

[mavs>spurs2]

What the motherfuck..

[ffadicted]

lol wtf the Score was saying this mornign that Chandler went to toronto... I'm lost lulz

[mavs>spurs2]

FUCK YOU DONNIE

FUCK YOU MARK CUBAN

fuck this cursed shit ass franchise to hell

[z0sa]

I'm lost lulz

that's not too surprising

[lefty]

lol wtf the Score was saying this mornign that Chandler went to toronto... I'm lost lulz
TheScore is usually good
wtf

[Reeko_Htown]

The value of the DUST chip after all?

a couple dollars and a box of condoms.

[Greg Oden]

The value of the DUST chip after all?

a couple dollars and a box of condoms.

What's funny is you're a rocketfan talking shit

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

What's funny is you're a rocketfan talking shit

:lol

[ffadicted]

that's not too surprising

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-chandlertrade071210

lol that was just such an angry teenage post

[The Gemini Method]

Yeah, I thought he was headed for Toronto? Well, judging by the mood in this thread...not a very popular move, eh? Al Jefferson should've been Dallas'.

[lefty]

lol Mavs

lol Italy

[Greg Oden]

lol that was just such an angry teenage post


:lmao

[badfish22]

fuck this team

[mavs>spurs2]

The value of the DUST chip after all?

a couple dollars and a box of condoms.

shut the fuck up you stupid fucking piece of shit

is that houston humidity getting to your head enough to make you forget you're a rocket fan? lol rocket fan talking shit, what a joke

[z0sa]

except i'm not angry nor a teenager

you're pretty lost though, huh?

[ElNono]

So this is the 'Gasol type of trade' that the DUST chip was going to bring? :lmao

[badfish22]

So this is the 'Gasol type of trade' that the DUST chip was going to bring? :lmao

It could have easily brought it. Cuban was just more concerned with getting rid of Carrolls contract then bringing in a good player like Jefferson.

[BRHornet45]

fuck this team

LOL oh snap sons..... ghazi do you know where your wife is? Her big daddy Tyson is coming to town!

[PGDynasty24]

WTF is dallas serious? I used to think it was the universe who was fucking them over,now I just think it's themselves

[Man About Town]

Welcome to Dallas, Tyson! I'l be happy to take you to Plush or 1920 Elm so you can get your fuck on!

[mavs>spurs2]

Welcome to Dallas, Tyson! I'l be happy to take you to Plush or 1920 so you can get your fuck on!

so instead of getting an impact player like say, Iggy or Jefferson, you're happy with this bullshit ass excuse for a move??? FUCK YOU, you're just as retarded as the rest

[hater]

this is depressing

[ElNono]

It could have easily brought it. Cuban was just more concerned with getting rid of Carrolls contract then bringing in a good player like Jefferson.

And I agree that it could... if they didn't keep stalling the Jefferson trade.

[ElNono]

LOL oh snap sons..... ghazi do you know where your wife is? Her big daddy Tyson is coming to town!

:rollin

[himat]

:lol:lol So Dallas and Phoenix are trying to make LA's road to the Finals easier than before?"

I feel bad for Dirk.

[Man About Town]

so instead of getting an impact player like say, Iggy or Jefferson, you're happy with this bullshit ass excuse for a move??? FUCK YOU, you're just as retarded as the rest

Tyson is now a part of the Mavs family. We take care of our own. That means taking him to the Spearmint Rhino so he can get his dick sucked by one of the girls in the VIP section, and Wingfield's in South Dallas so he can get the best burger he'll ever have. I'm Mark and Donnie's community liason.

[mavs>spurs2]

this is fucking bullshit, if there was such thing as maverick fans in dallas then i'd say cuban and donnie should watch their backs

..but oh wait..there aren't any anymore

[z0sa]

And I agree that it could... if they didn't keep stalling the Jefferson trade.

Who really knows why AlJeff isn't in a Mavs uniform. Cuban has always been so free spending and unworried about profits or anything else except winning, it intrigues me to think he passed on Jefferson over contract issues.

[Mr.Stern]

We Stacked!!!

[mavs>spurs2]

Tyson is now a part of the Mavs family. We take care of our own. That means taking him to the Spearmint Rhino so he can get his dick sucked by one of the girls in the VIP section, and Wingfield's in South Dallas so he can get the best burger he'll ever have. I'm Mark and Donnie's community liason.

then fuck mark, donnie, and you too asshole

[Shank]

Fuck this shit.

[resistanze]

Yeah, Jordan pulled out the the Calderon/Evans for Diaw/Chandler deal.

[mavs>spurs2]

has dirk signed the contract yet or is it still possible for him to back out? i want to see this team crash and fucking burn

[resistanze]

Fuck.

[ElNono]

Who really knows why AlJeff isn't in a Mavs uniform. Cuban has always been so free spending and unworried about profits or anything else except winning, it intrigues me to think he passed on Jefferson over contract issues.

They were dicking around for a week because they thought they were the only suitors, while chasing the CP3 pipe dream. Utah basically showed up and in two hours Al was gone, and Cubes and Donnie were left with their dicks hanging.

It was extensively discussed in this NBA forum last night when it all happened.
Dallas was finally ready to make the trade, but Utah simply had a better offer.

[DMX7]

I actually think he'll fit in well. They could have done a lot better though.

[ffadicted]

Fuck.

Yeah I know, the score was going over the raptors projected roster for next year this morning, and it was actually looking not too bad. Very shitty news for more then dallas lol

[monosylab1k]

Who really knows why AlJeff isn't in a Mavs uniform. Cuban has always been so free spending and unworried about profits or anything else except winning, it intrigues me to think he passed on Jefferson over contract issues.

Mark is making a bid for the Texas Rangers, looks like his free spending ways with the Mavs might be getting cut short.

[Reeko_Htown]

What's funny is you're a rocketfan talking shit

you have Greg fucking Oden as your Avatar.

[Drachen]

Just wow. Now I really feel bad for Dirk.

[mavs>spurs2]

you're looking at the first and only Dallas Heat fan

i'm a trend setter. i set trends

[ElNono]

What does Chandler contract look like, BTW? Anything remotely similar to Jefferson's contract?

[resistanze]

Fuck Michael Jordan and Mark Cuban. This is more painful for the Mavs because they were actually in contention, but god damn.

[Shank]

Mavs acquiring $29 million in expirings at this year's deadline.

There's a bright side to everything.

Still.

Fuck me.

[ElNono]

So i guess Cubes thinks he has a shot at Melo or CP3 next offseason...

[mavs>spurs2]

Mavs acquiring $29 million in expirings at this year's deadline.

There's a bright side to everything.

Still.

Fuck me.

oh go fist yourself. this is terrible

[Man About Town]

What does Chandler contract look like, BTW? Anything remotely similar to Jefferson's contract?

He has 1 year and $12.75 million left on his deal.

[z0sa]

They were dicking around for a week because they thought they were the only suitors, while chasing the CP3 pipe dream. Utah basically showed up and in two hours Al was gone, and Cubes and Donnie were left with their dicks hanging.

It was extensively discussed in this NBA forum last night when it all happened.
Dallas was finally ready to make the trade, but Utah simply had a better offer.

I'm aware; the point I am makin is Cuban had options better than this, and Al Jefferson was clearly the best option of them all considering what Minny wanted back, and considering his contract runs through the rest of Dirk's prime. That's mostly JMO though.

[DPG21920]

Tyson is not even a huge upgrade over what damp brought as a basketball player in recent years let alone contract value. So they used a great expiring contract to get more expiring contracts?

[ElNono]

He has 1 year and $12.75 million left on his deal.

thank you

[monosylab1k]

Mavs acquiring $29 million in expirings at this year's deadline.

There's a bright side to everything.

Oh great, another deadline trade. Talent comes in, we all get the blue balls again, then Rick cockpunches us all by using the most retarded rotations humanly possible come playoff time.

Same old shit year after year after year.

[lurker]

http://i41.tinypic.com/2u9l2s2.jpg

[JamStone]

Come mid-season, Tyson Chandler's expiring contract for Chris Paul, tbh.

[z0sa]

Tyson is not even a huge upgrade over what damp brought as a basketball player in recent years let alone contract value. So they used a great expiring contract to get more expiring contracts?

Yeah, I kinda summarized it the same way in my head. They basically just moved players instead of diversified/switched up skill sets.

Also, I'm not even sure who should start on this team. It's the Dampier/Haywood dilemma over again.

[z0sa]

Come mid-season, Tyson Chandler's expiring contract for Chris Paul, tbh.

So a half season rental instead of a full? :wakeup

[mavs>spurs2]

Tyson is not even a huge upgrade over what damp brought as a basketball player in recent years let alone contract value. So they used a great expiring contract to get more expiring contracts?

even midgets can see how retarded it is, and he doesn't even need a stepping stool. just fucking great

[DMX7]

you're looking at the first and only Dallas Heat fan

i'm a trend setter. i set trends

There is no Dallas Heat. But the San Antonio Heat are always welcoming to new fans.

[DPG21920]

This is a gamble by the mavs.

[Zelophehad]

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
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[MavDynasty]

Fuck this team I hope Dirk leaves

[mavs>spurs2]

There is no Dallas Heat. But the San Antonio Heat are always welcoming to new fans.

i'd never be associated with san antonio

[DPG21920]

even midgets can see how retarded it is, and he doesn't even need a stepping stool. just fucking great

Ur lame.

[mavs>spurs2]

Fuck this team I hope Dirk leaves

me too, let's watch this team crash and fucking burn.

[MavDynasty]

lol passing on 20-10 to get 6-6

and dumbfucks at db.com actually like it unless i can't detect sarcasm

This is a really great deal and I am all for it.

Tyson gives us the best 2-headed center this team has ever had. We need his quickness and length and we have the opportunity to look at him in the realm of a long-term deal.

We got rid of Matt Carroll.

We no longer need/care to sign Shaq.

We still have the full MLE to sign an impact player. Kyle Lowry anybody?

[monosylab1k]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2bghc26


Hollinger's analysis: -1 wins

:lmao

[Warlord23]

Priceless. The Mavs FO has always had an unintentional flair for comedy, and boy did they deliver a punchline to remember.

[badfish22]

http://i30.tinypic.com/s1m1p3.jpg

[Trainwreck2100]

This is a gamble by the mavs.

gamble? more like betting $20000 on red and you're playing blackjack`

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

:lol

[mavs>spurs2]

Ur lame.

unfortunately not as lame as Donnie who is probably the worst GM of all time, along with mark "im a business computer genius but still somehow fucking retarded" cuban.

[Zelophehad]

Years of waiting, for this.

http://blog.nola.com/hornetsbeat/2009/06/medium_PHX2Chandler.jpg

[Zelophehad]

Tyson.

[Zelophehad]

Chandler.

[Zelophehad]

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
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[MavDynasty]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2bghc26



:lmao

compared to http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2696bq6


Hollingers analysis= +5 wins

[JamStone]

Alex Ajinca + Ian Mahinmi = David Robinson + Tim Duncan

Watch.

[rayray2k8]

That's all Dallas could do??? Just Chandler? Bobcats just got rid of an injury prone player for some cap space.
Don't get me wrong, Chandler is a good shot blocker and rebounder, but I think Dallas could have did better than this.

Note: already seeing some reaction from Mav fans. I'd be pissed too.
No wait, I know exactly how you feel. Must have been the feeling when spurs fans found out that the Spurs were bring back Bonner. :headbang

[DPG21920]

All they have done is buy themselves more time to poach someone they really want. This gives them until the deadline to see if any better players become available. If not, even with the cap space, that is a major risk w next seasons FA class and the CBA up for renewal.

[DPG21920]

Chandler is not a good shot blocker.

[timvp]

All that build up for Tyson Chandler? Dude isn't even insurable.

[spursfan1000]

Tyson Chandler > Jefferson anyway :lmao

[Zelophehad]

All they have done is buy themselves more time to poach someone they really want. This gives them until the deadline to see if any better players become available. If not, even with the cap space, that is a major risk w next seasons FA class and the CBA up for renewal.
Someone's buying the strategy!!! Another sucker!! Come on in and join the fan base!!

[ElNono]

I'm aware; the point I am makin is Cuban had options better than this, and Al Jefferson was clearly the best option of them all considering what Minny wanted back, and considering his contract runs through the rest of Dirk's prime. That's mostly JMO though.

This move is basically a salary dump looking for next season. He got rid of Caroll, Damp and Najera, and took on expiring contracts. He's basically cutting his loses and looking at the next offseason. The Al Jefferson train left the station already and CP3 is not leaving NO.

I think it's a disservice to waste one more year of Dirk's prime like this. He should've pulled the trigger on the Jefferson deal.

[JamStone]

Dirk, Haywood, Chandler, Mahinmi, Ajinca would be an Olympic volleyball dynasty.

[MavDynasty]

That's all Dallas could do??? Just Chandler? Bobcats just got rid of an injury prone player for some cap space.
Don't get me wrong, Chandler is a good shot blocker and rebounder, but I think Dallas could have did better than this.

Note: already seeing some reaction from Mav fans. I'd be pissed too.
No wait, I know exactly how you feel. Must have been the feeling when spurs fans found out that the Spurs were bring back Bonner. :headbang

The DUST chip was what Mark and Donnie hyped up for months though. It was supposed to be the ultimate trading chip and mean instant savings. Cuban and Donnie dicked around too long with Minnesota and Utah just came in and took Jefferson. What pisses Mav fans off is that Cuban was too cheap(yes I said cheap) to take Jefferson even though Dirk signed for 16 million less to help Cuban. If I'm Dirk, I threaten to leave and not resign to see if Cuban can get anyone else but at this point I doubt it.

[ElNono]

If they were dealing with the Bobcats, they should have pried GForce at the very least...

[DPG21920]

Someone's buying the strategy!!! Another sucker!! Come on in and join the fan base!!

No.

[Pistons < Spurs]

chadfordinsider

Chandler to the Mavs is a very nice coup for Mark Cuban. Bryan Colangelo can't be a happy man right now.

[MavDynasty]

mavs are offering the MLE to Al Harrington per Stein

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=5377055&campaign=rss&source=DALLASHeadlines

[jag]

Hollinger's analysis: -1 wins

:lol

[Shank]

All they have done is buy themselves more time to poach someone they really want. This gives them until the deadline to see if any better players become available. If not, even with the cap space, that is a major risk w next seasons FA class and the CBA up for renewal.

Great points. I was about to write something along the same lines.

[badfish22]

sportsguy33: Word is 'Cats want to flip Dampier. His contract isn't dead yet!


lol the Mavs are about to get bent over by the Bobcats FO

[Trainwreck2100]

sportsguy33: Word is 'Cats want to flip Dampier. His contract isn't dead yet!


lol the Mavs are about to get bent over by the Bobcats FO

maybe they had a team on the hook with chandler and that team balked at the price

[Ashy Larry]

Damp once called himself the second best center in the NBA ....... boy how the mediocre has fallen

[Muser]

I can't wait for the year of Ghazi jokes.

[My Fault]

This trade was merely for Ghazi's wife

[MavDynasty]

Lateral fucking move!

[DAF86]

I think this move will be a lot better than what Mavs fans think, and the Jefferson one wouldn't have been as good as they thought it could be.

[dirk4mvp]

tbh, I might just be convincing myself that the Mavs' FO isn't "I can count to potato" retarded, but 21_Blessings may have a point that there's a reason the Timberwolves weren't receiving a fuckton of offers for Jefferson.

[sefant77]

Nice birthday present for me.

Fuck off Mavs

[BUMP]

i'm shitfaced drunk so i have no comment right now except for....































great fucking move :cry

[djohn2oo8]

shut the fuck up you stupid fucking piece of shit

is that houston humidity getting to your head enough to make you forget you're a rocket fan? lol rocket fan talking shit, what a joke

Is Chris Paul unpacking his bags in Big D right now?

[dirk4mvp]

Is Bosh unpacking his bags in Houston right now?

lol Daryl Morey the savior

[Edward]

lol Rocketfan
lol pinked

[redzero]

Is Chris Paul unpacking his bags in Big D right now?

Al Jefferson was the one the Mavericks had their sights on. Paul was an unrealistic pipe dream, and most Mavs fans here knew that.

[dirk4mvp]

Did that nigga Edward get pinked because of the Steinbrenner thread?

[Edward]

Yeah I did. The Spurs/Yankees/mmgay fan got butthurt and complained to Kori

[dallaskd]

This is all on paper. I wont judge shit yet. Alot of you were pissed when we drafted Roddy. Wait till it all plays out.. Chandler and Haywood could be a stud lineup if they dont bitch about playing time.

[Killakobe81]

LMAO Tyson chandler ...

I liveve here in Frisco and I actually feel bad for Mavs fans ,,,

Yes this Cowboys country but they have been suffering ...

[redzero]

lol heart attack
lol dead

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5375561

I lol'd.

[Edward]

Al Jefferson was the one the Mavericks had their sights on. Paul was an unrealistic pipe dream, and most Mavs fans here knew that.


Rocketfan likes to put words in people's mouth so they feel less dumb for their delusions of grandeur. Sunfan makes fun of them for thinking Yao Ming is a franchise player, they respond with "lol thinking Frye is a franchise player" even though Sunfan never said Frye was a franchise player.

[djohn2oo8]

Is Bosh unpacking his bags in Houston right now?

lol Daryl Morey the savior

No move is better than using your only leverage for Chandler, lol desperation

[Edward]

sensitive Spurs/Yankees/mmgay fans apparently. Keep in mind this is the same cuckold who moderates the mmgay section, the forum on ST with by far the most censorship and butthurtedness.

[redzero]

what is mmgay?

MMA - Mixed Martial Arts

Is mmgay pronounced M-M-Gay or mmgay?

[Killakobe81]

So i guess Cubes thinks he has a shot at Melo or CP3 next offseason...

He might. thing is he criticizes Lebron and backs Gilbert ...but then FOLLOWS the Riley blueprint!! LMAO
imitation is the sincerest form of ...

[Edward]

MMA - Mixed Martial Arts

Is mmgay pronounced M-M-Gay or mmgay?


M-M-Gay

[dirk4mvp]

No move is better than using your only leverage for Chandler, lol desperation

So exactly what moves have the Rockets made this season? If getting Yao Ming healthy is the answer here, which it is, lol rockets.

[redzero]

M-M-Gay

mmgay is funnier, tbqh.

[dallaskd]

sensitive Spurs/Yankees/mmgay fans apparently. Keep in mind this is the same cuckold who moderates the mmgay section, the forum on ST with by far the most censorship and butthurtedness.

I moderate it and i dont do shit, thats all him..

[sefant77]

No move is better than using your only leverage for Chandler, lol desperation

lol no McGrady for Billups+Prince years ago

[djohn2oo8]

So exactly what moves have the Rockets made this season? If getting Yao Ming healthy is the answer here, which it is, lol rockets.

I was expecting more of a burn here, but I guess not. I say one thing about Chandler, you respond with lol Yao and such. The best moves are to WAIT to seek the best deal possible. Like LeBron never considered Dallas, Bosh never considered Houston. That's ok though, speculating makes it interesting. Obviously, yes getting a healthy Yao would be ideal, but we know it's not going to happen. So, what do you do now? Seek insurance, play him less, and so forth. You can lol all you want, Chandler is every bit as injury prone as Yao is

[ElNono]

I hope the lack of Findog posts on this thread has to do with him being busy, as opposed to have jumped off a building...

[djohn2oo8]

lol no McGrady for Billups+Prince years ago

Yao still would be hurt, and so would Prince

[sribb43]

I was expecting more of a burn here, but I guess not. I say one thing about Chandler, you respond with lol Yao and such. The best moves are to WAIT to seek the best deal possible. Like LeBron never considered Dallas, Bosh never considered Houston. That's ok though, speculating makes it interesting. Obviously, yes getting a healthy Yao would be ideal, but we know it's not going to happen. So, what do you do now? Seek insurance, play him less, and so forth. You can lol all you want, Chandler is every bit as injury prone as Yao is

While true, the fate of the mavs season doesnt rest on if Chandler is healthy or not, they will still win 50-55 games. Now if yao goes down, Rockets will find themselves in the lottery

[sribb43]

Well it could be worse, the Mavs could have signed Shaq today

[dirk4mvp]

I was expecting more of a burn here, but I guess not. I say one thing about Chandler, you respond with lol Yao and such. The best moves are to WAIT to seek the best deal possible. Like LeBron never considered Dallas, Bosh never considered Houston. That's ok though, speculating makes it interesting. Obviously, yes getting a healthy Yao would be ideal, but we know it's not going to happen. So, what do you do now? Seek insurance, play him less, and so forth. You can lol all you want, Chandler is every bit as injury prone as Yao is


What is it with Rocketfan comparing role players on another team to Yao?

lol rocketfan comparing Yao to Channing Frye

lol rocketfan comparing Yao to Tyson Chandler

[djohn2oo8]

While true, the fate of the mavs season doesnt rest on if Chandler is healthy or not, they will still win 50-55 games. Now if yao goes down, Rockets will find themselves in the lottery

And that's why they are getting viable insurance

[djohn2oo8]

What is it with Rocketfan comparing role players on another team to Yao?

lol rocketfan comparing Yao to Channing Frye

lol rocketfan comparing Yao to Tyson Chandler

Of course you can't stay on topic, I wouldn't expect you to. If you can understand the concept of what I am saying, these franchises have their flaws. Ours is relying on Yao, yours is making moves for washed up players, and the Suns' penny pinching ownership

[dirk4mvp]

My response had plenty to do with your shit post.

[Dirkgreatness]

Originally Published: July 13, 2010
Deal breakdown: Chandler to Mavs

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By John Hollinger
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I'd like to congratulate Michael Jordan on being the first executive in history to avoid saving money in a salary dump. Tyson Chandler and Alexis Ajinca have one year left at a combined $14.1 million, while Eduardo Najera and Matt Carroll are owed a combined $17.1 million over the next three years. Throw in cash (presumably the maximum allowable $3 million) from Dallas, and they managed to break even while giving away their starting center for two guys who will occupy seats 11 and 12 at the end of the bench. Strike up the band.

For those who haven't heard, Charlotte traded Chandler and Ajinca to Dallas on Tuesday for two of the deadest-weight contracts in the league (Najera and Carroll), cash, and the non-guaranteed contract of Erick Dampier. I still have no idea why.

If the Bobcats flip Dampier for something of greater value than Chandler I'll take it all back, but it doesn't appear they're set to do that. Instead they robbed Peter to pay Paul, cutting $8 million off the current year's payroll but taking it on in future years. Among other casualties, this deal basically kills whatever slim hope they had of getting under the cap in 2011.

Coming on the heels of an equally jarring scheme to trade Chandler and Boris Diaw to Toronto for Jose Calderon, it's not quite clear if His Airness and his hand-picked staff have a plan, or if so what that plan might entail. I thought this kind of silliness in Charlotte would stop when Robert Johnson sold the team, but I guess not.

As for Dallas, I thought it was a better deal than they've been given credit for. Look, we all want our team to hit a home run, but sometimes it's just as important to keep hitting singles.

And for once, the Mavericks stopped swinging for the fences and made a sensible deal that greases the skids for further ones down the road. By trading Dampier's non-guaranteed contract, along with Carroll and Najera, to Charlotte for Chandler, the Mavs greatly improved their financial flexibility going forward, and did little harm to their prospects in the short term.

First, however, we have to discuss the alternative: Dallas could have gone for the home run and traded Dampier, along with two first-round picks, to Minnesota for Al Jefferson. This would have been a classic Mavs move, akin to recent trades for Jason Kidd, Caron Butler and Shawn Marion, but the pieces didn't fit. Jefferson and Dirk Nowitzki would have been terrible partners on the defensive end, and offensively Jefferson was never going to get the rock enough in the post with all the scoring-minded players around him.

What Dallas really needs to vault itself to elite status is a first-rate perimeter player; at the moment the Mavs man those positions with several 30-something former stars but no current ones. With none available to be had with the Dampier contract, they did the next best thing.

By adding Chandler, the Mavs retain the rights to a top defensive center. Additionally, he has a $12 million expiring contract, which gives the Mavs maximum flexibility to pursue other trades during the course of the season. No, it isn't quite as alluring as being able to waive Dampier and cleaning the books entirely, but it's a useful asset.

Additionally, two other factors have been underrated. First, dumping Carroll and Najera helps the Mavs' flexibility going forward by subtracting $6.5 million in dead weight from the 2011-12 payroll. If somehow things go off the rails this year, Dallas could very easily get itself well under the cap next summer -- words that have been rarely spoken around Big D in the Mark Cuban era.

Second, the Mavs walk away with a trade exception worth $6.8 million -- enough in itself to land a fairly good player if the right deal comes along.

So it's not the Pau Gasol trade. But it's something. The Mavs have a top-notch defensive frontcourt with Chandler and Haywood, and they've left open a number of options for pursuing roster upgrades during the course of the season.

Also see: Hollinger breaks down the latest deals

[Muser]

My response had plenty to do with your shit post.

This made me :lol

[Findog]

I hope the lack of Findog posts on this thread has to do with him being busy, as opposed to have jumped off a building...

Nah, I'm fine with this move I guess. I see what they're doing - creating cap space for 2011 and beyond and not getting worse in the meantime, as well as not making a move merely for the sake of making a move.

Al Jefferson would've been nice. I know that there were very valid concerns about him coming back from ACL surgery, having 3/42 left on his deal, his status as a defensive liability, and concerns over his work ethic/maturity after the DUI last year. But I thought he brought a skillset that is sorely missing from this team. I thought from a pure talent perspective, turning Dampier into Jefferson was a huge win. I figured some of his liabilities would be muted going from a #1 option for a shit franchise to a supporting cast member on a very good team.

If you look at our roster, two glaring weaknesses stand out: not enough low-post scoring, and our wing positions are manned primarily by guys past their prime in their thirties. We need to get younger, better and more athletic at the wing positions, and we need scoring inside. Dampier's contract realistically wasn't going to address both those roster weaknesses, but he could solve one of them. That's why I think Mavs fans are upset about missing out on Jefferson and doing this deal instead - fans in general are drawn to splashy moves involving big names, and they were sold on this contract by the team and its lackeys as a tool for landing a major upgrade in talent. Assuming he's healthy, and that's a big if, Chandler is only a marginal upgrade from Dampier.

The front office never counseled patience, they instead promised this summer the Mavs would make a big splash to finally get Dirk the Robin (or Batman) he needed.

[DPG21920]

I am sure Dirk is thrilled with their new long-term outlook.

[ElNono]

Nah, I'm fine with this move I guess. I see what they're doing - creating cap space for 2011 and beyond and not getting worse in the meantime, as well as not making a move merely for the sake of making a move.

Al Jefferson would've been nice. I know that there were very valid concerns about him coming back from ACL surgery, having 3/42 left on his deal, his status as a defensive liability, and concerns over his work ethic/maturity after the DUI last year. But I thought he brought a skillset that is sorely missing from this team. I thought from a pure talent perspective, turning Dampier into Jefferson was a huge win. I figured some of his liabilities would be muted going from a #1 option for a shit franchise to a supporting cast member on a very good team.

If you look at our roster, two glaring weaknesses stand out: not enough low-post scoring, and our wing positions are manned primarily by guys past their prime in their thirties. We need to get younger, better and more athletic at the wing positions, and we need scoring inside. Dampier's contract realistically wasn't going to address both those roster weaknesses, but he could solve one of them. That's why I think Mavs fans are upset about missing out on Jefferson and doing this deal instead - fans in general are drawn to splashy moves involving big names, and they were sold on this contract by the team and its lackeys as a tool for landing a major upgrade in talent. Assuming he's healthy, and that's a big if, Chandler is only a marginal upgrade from Dampier.

The front office never counseled patience, they instead promised this summer the Mavs would make a big splash to finally get Dirk the Robin (or Batman) he needed.

There's always February for a second-half trade I guess. I just think Dirk is not getting younger, so you really need to take advantage of opportunities like that one instead of just keep kicking the ball forward.

[Findog]

I am sure Dirk is thrilled with their new long-term outlook.

I'm not defending the events of the past 24 hours, but from their perspective, they obviously didn't see Jefferson as an over-the-top move. And therefore it wasn't worth doing and screwing with the cap flexibility that the Mavs are going to FINALLY have starting next summer. Cuban is a fan and for many years after buying the team, he ran them like one. Always going for the big names and the splashy, sexy moves. Playing Moneyball has not been his style.

[sefant77]

The TE of 6.5 Millions would cover exactly Poseys contract of 6.5 millions this year (and 6.9 the next).

Still living the Paul pipedream :rolleyes

Paul/Okafor for Chandler+Stevenson+Barea+Butler or Terry+Roddy+Jones/Picks

And Posey for the TE

Edit: They not even need Terry or Butler, without them the 125% rule works allready

[DPG21920]

They are kind of screwing their cap space by offering full MLE to Al imo.

IMO, this is not about next year. With Damp, he had to be waived by a certain date in order for him to be useful. Trading him for expirings bought them some time to wait and see who will shake loose at the deadline.

[DPG21920]

How did they get the TE in this trade?

[Edward]

Well at least you guys got rid of Najera :lol


DPG makes a good point, if they're going for cap flexibility, why offer Harrington the MLE? Why not split the MLE up to give two short term deals?

[Findog]

They are kind of screwing their cap space by offering full MLE to Al imo.

If they get AH for the full MLE for this year and next, it looks like their cap figure will be $63 million for 2010-11 and $35 million for 2011-12. And that $35 million for 2011-12 could be $24 million if Terry's final year doesn't get guaranteed. I think it could potentially function like Damp's if he doesn't play enough minutes next season.

[sefant77]

If they get AH for the full MLE for this year and next, it looks like their cap figure will be $63 million for 2010-11 and $35 million for 2011-12. And that $35 million for 2011-12 could be $24 million if Terry's final year doesn't get guaranteed. I think it could potentially function like Damp's if he doesn't play enough minutes next season.

Terry needs to play less than 1500 minutes and they can buy him out for 5 million next year. Can be easily done with the emerge of Roddy, Harrington as SF option and Butler cutting weight and handling the SG position better.

[DPG21920]

]

If they get AH for the full MLE for this year and next, it looks like their cap figure for this year will be $63 million for 2010-11 and $35 million for 2011-12.

How do you figure:

Dirk: 20M
AH: 6M
Kidd: 8.5M
Marion: 7.9
Roddy: 1.2
Barea: 2M?
------------------
45.6M

This is not taking into consideration Terry.

[Edward]

Tbh this isn't a TERRIBLE move for Dallas if they didn't resign Haywood or overpay Harrington. Chandler woulda given them a competent center for 1 year so they wouldn't have to commit a shit ton of long term money to Haywood. Doesn't make much sense tho since their cap situation is fucked regardless with Marion, Terry, Dirk and Haywood all on the books.

[Edward]

How do you figure:

Dirk: 20M
AH: 6M
Kidd: 8.5M
Marion: 7.9
Roddy: 1.2
Barea: 2M?
------------------
45.6M

This is not taking into consideration Terry.

Or Haywood

[sefant77]

Tbh this isn't a TERRIBLE move for Dallas if they didn't resign Haywood or overpay Harrington. Chandler woulda given them a competent center for 1 year so they wouldn't have to commit a shit ton of long term money to Haywood. Doesn't make much sense tho since their cap situation is fucked regardless with Marion, Terry, Dirk and Haywood all on the books.

Chandler played less than 100 games in the last 2 years, for sure they didnt wanna pull a Houston and rely to 100% on Chandlers health at the center spot.

[Findog]

How do you figure:

Dirk: 20M
AH: 6M
Kidd: 8.5M
Marion: 7.9
Roddy: 1.2
Barea: 2M?
------------------
45.6M

This is not taking into consideration Terry.

Shit you're right, I wasn't taking into account Dirk's salary...or Haywood's.

Forget it, Dallas won't be under the cap anytime soon anyways. Forget everything else I said. They just have a package of expiring contracts that they can flip for longer-running contracts.

[DPG21920]

:lol I was scrambling through their contracts to figure out how they worked that voodoo.

[Edward]

This woulda been a buck nasty deal for Dallas if they got a team to take their Marion contract.

[ElNono]

This was also another chance to get rid of Barea. I have a feeling we're going to see JJ stealing mins from Roddy this season again.

[ElNono]

The positive side of this deal is that it pretty much means no Shaq in Dallas :lol

[Zelophehad]

This was also another chance to get rid of Barea. I have a feeling we're going to see JJ stealing mins from Roddy this season again.
Ya think?

http://www.sportsgrindent.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/rick-cralisle.jpg

[sefant77]

No way Carlisle can pull the Roddy shit again, no matter how much he stinks.

[Zelophehad]

No way Carlisle can pull the Roddy shit again, no matter how much he stinks.
The fact of the matter is Barea shouldn't play at all between Kidd, Roddy, Terry, and also Butler getting backcourt minutes. Barea will probably still average 10-15 mpg which will be less than Roddy, but Carlisle will "ride him when he's hot" in place of Roddy frequently, I'm willing to bet.

[picc84]

Unaware of this ghazi/chandler thing.

[ElNono]

Unaware of this ghazi/chandler thing.

It started before the Gasol trade... :hat

[sribb43]

Tyson loves him some Dirk...should Nash be jealous?

http://theassociation.blogs.com/the_association/images/2008/04/21/img_0965.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2095/2431712708_1cac4db64b_o.jpg

[picc84]

It started before the Gasol trade... :hat

There was no "before the Gasol trade".

[angelbelow]

Surprising they went this direction considering the AJ deal but then again not really surprising.

[ElNono]

There was no "before the Gasol trade".

:lol

[redzero]

Tyson loves him some Dirk...should Nash be jealous?

http://theassociation.blogs.com/the_association/images/2008/04/21/img_0965.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2095/2431712708_1cac4db64b_o.jpg

Nah, man, that's just smothering defense. We all know Tyson loves Ghazi's wife.

[Kori Ellis]

Yeah I did. The Spurs/Yankees/mmgay fan got butthurt and complained to Kori

Negative. I didn't even know you were pinked.

[Koolaid_Man]

Negative. I didn't even know you were pinked.


Still waiting on my 1:1 (conversation) with you...:toast

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Holy crap. Why did they trade for a guy on an exorbitant contract to back up Haywood? They could have filled that role for little. Typical Cuban move.

[peteee]

unreliable news IMHO. Now way should Bobcats agree to take Caroll's contract and the salary doesn't meet. Dampier/Caroll/Najera combined make up to 20m dollars annually, twice the amount of Chandler/ajinca's salaries combined.

if that's truly the deal Donnie finnally got for Dampier's invaluable contract, I'll stop watching the NBA any more. you get a defensive big who's an equivalent crap as Vagina offensively. if you know you're going to get another big from selling dampier's contract, why should you sign Haywood for an annual salary up to 10m? 10m backup center, good job donnie.

fuck donnie, fuck carlisle.

FUCK YOU DONNIE NELSON

[Shank]

unreliable news IMHO. Now way should Bobcats agree to take Caroll's contract and the salary doesn't meet. Dampier/Caroll/Najera combined make up to 20m dollars annually, twice the amount of Chandler/ajinca's salaries combined.

if that's truly the deal Donnie finnally got for Dampier's invaluable contract, I'll stop watching the NBA any more. you get a defensive big who's an equivalent crap as Vagina offensively. if you know you're going to get another big from selling dampier's contract, why should you sign Haywood for an annual salary up to 10m? 10m backup center, good job donnie.

fuck donnie, fuck carlisle.

FUCK YOU DONNIE NELSON

A little research goes a long way.

[Findog]

Holy crap. Why did they trade for a guy on an exorbitant contract to back up Haywood? They could have filled that role for little. Typical Cuban move.

Because he has one year left on his deal and they hope to flip him for something better in February. Time will tell if they do or not. Do your research before posting please.

[peteee]

had the mavs kept steve nash they would have won a number of rings now, considering the league's 3 straight MVPs from 05-07 were all Mavs or ex-Mavs.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1292/4597853244_fb9d659179_o.jpg

[mavsfan1000]

No way Carlisle can pull the Roddy shit again, no matter how much he stinks.
It's already starting. Carlisle is in Roddy's head. Roddy stinking it up at Summer League while Carlisle is watching. :depressed

[LakerHater]

I actually think he'll fit in well.

I do too, I think Kidd can gell with him the same way CP3 did.

[DAF86]

:smchode:


FUCK YOU DONNIE

FUCK YOU MARK CUBAN

fuck this cursed shit ass franchise to hell


fuck this team


Fuck this team I hope Dirk leaves


:lmao


i'm shitfaced drunk so i have no comment right now except for....

great fucking move :cry

lol MavKrew


Section 2: Code of Conduct


1. You must know shit about basketball.

If you don't know shit about basketball, you are a piece of shit, and will not be a part of the Regulation Krew, rather, will be skoffed by the Regulation Krew.

My take back then:


I think this move will be a lot better than what Mavs fans think, and the Jefferson one wouldn't have been as good as they thought it could be.

TBH,IMHO,FWIW.

[monosylab1k]

lol MavKrew



My take back then:



TBH,IMHO,FWIW.

:lmao nice find fagle.

we all were expressing outrage that the DUST chip so highly touted turned into an injury prone center that may or may not have an impact. if you look, even at this thread, later on most of us rethought the trade after the initial shock.

also, it's funny you quote stretch about knowing basketball but failed to post his initial thoughts on the trade, probably because he liked the trade from the start. but it's just like some nazi sympathizer manu knobslobber to cherry pick.

[DAF86]

:lmao nice find fagle.

we all were expressing outrage that the DUST chip so highly touted turned into an injury prone center that may or may not have an impact. if you look, even at this thread, later on most of us rethought the trade after the initial shock.

also, it's funny you quote stretch about knowing basketball but failed to post his initial thoughts on the trade, probably because he liked the trade from the start. but it's just like some nazi sympathizer manu knobslobber to cherry pick.

I don't care what stretch thought about the trade back then, supposedly every member of the Mavkrew should know shit about basketball, not one out of ten.

[monosylab1k]

I don't care what stretch thought about the trade back then, supposedly every member of the Mavkrew should know shit about basketball, not one out of ten.

we know Dirk > Manu which is more than you can say. we also know that Nazi's are bad.

[monosylab1k]

crofl here comes gray spurfan!


:lmao :lmao :lmao stupid mavfans = owned!!!!!!

[DAF86]

lol at the only Mavfan that said that the trade was OK getting kicked out of the MavKrew

[Leetonidas]

:lmao @ epic M>S meltdown in the beginning of this topic. :lmao

Seems that trade ended up working out pretty well.

[nkdlunch]

:lol

[Leetonidas]

tbh this is like a reverse thread of the Jefferson traded to Spurs thread.

[Phillip]

lol emo stoner fag

[Leetonidas]

Sup stretch

[redzero]

This is something a fan would want to be wrong about, so laughing at them is pretty much pointless.

[Phillip]

sup suicidal beaner

[DPG21920]

I was pretty calm about the trade from the beginning. I obviously had no idea that the Chandler that looked injury prone and done for the past 3 years would magically play some of the best ball of his career.

Like I said earlier, it is amazing how much being healthy has helped him. I didn't know his injuries were that bad previously.

I still think the Mavs are even surprised by this and I still think they got him knowing he was a tradeable asset if he didn't work out. I think they wanted some interior defense and extra length and he was the best available.

[Phillip]

Sometimes, you just cant put a price on chemistry, communication, heart, and effort, and Chandler brings all of those things, whereas its arguable that a guy like Al Jefferson or Andre Iguodala might not have brought any of those things.

[BUMP]

Well according to DAF I said great move so :tu to me

[poop]

'we staaaaaaacked'

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1375.snc4/164737_10150333444255461_16555485460_16023174_2621 333_n.jpg

[mavsfan1000]

Epic bump.

[DPG21920]

Spur fan holding it down while Mav fan quits on their team :lol

[mavsfan1000]

Btw I was in support of the trade. I would let you know if I was against it. lol

[Ghazi]

we were all wrong about Chandler :)

[Leetonidas]

lol at tyson_chandler's meltdown

Had to point it out again, lol irony

[DPG21920]

Guy is a flat out quitter ^

[dirk4mvp]

Chandler stayed healthy, proved scros wrong, and we get to enjoy a championship thanks to it. Even trade off.

[mavsfan1000]

I didn't understand why everyone was so down on Chandler. I just remember defense and dunks from him. Those 2 things are what we need more of. I thought of Al Jefferson as a poor defender and volume shooter. I'll take a defensive role player that gets dunks anytime. I have to admit I also thought it was too late for Dallas as they needed this kind of big man 3-4 years ago.

[DirkDoesWork]

Still, Jefferson is around a 20-10 guy year in and year out, except for the start of his career with Boston, but it became obvious that Tyson Chandler was exactly what we needed and more.

[Leetonidas]

I wish the Spurs had Tyson Chandler :depressed

[Findog]

So this is the 'Gasol type of trade' that the DUST chip was going to bring? :lmao

Yes.

[Ghazi]

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:E1Fpq3O6Dp8G3M:http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq200/stereolith/DustChip1.png&t=1

[mavsfan1000]

Still, Jefferson is around a 20-10 guy year in and year out, except for the start of his career with Boston, but it became obvious that Tyson Chandler was exactly what we needed and more.
Jefferson does it on bad teams though. I'm not impressed with his impact on teams. Most noticeably how poor on defense he is.

[Findog]

Assuming he's healthy, and that's a big if, Chandler is only a marginal upgrade from Dampier.

In my defense I was basing that on what he did in Charlotte and not New Orleans. One of the dumbest things I've ever said on here.

Epic bump.

[mavsfan1000]

FUCK YOU DONNIE

FUCK YOU MARK CUBAN

fuck this cursed shit ass franchise to hell

fuck this team

Fuck this shit.

Oh great, another deadline trade. Talent comes in, we all get the blue balls again, then Rick cockpunches us all by using the most retarded rotations humanly possible come playoff time.

Same old shit year after year after year.



Omg :lmao


I think this move will be a lot better than what Mavs fans think, and the Jefferson one wouldn't have been as good as they thought it could be.
We have a winner.

[kamikazi_player]

:lol wow

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

In my defense I was basing that on what he did in Charlotte and not New Orleans. One of the dumbest things I've ever said on here.

Epic bump.
Not really given exactly what you said. It worked out well for Dallas, but I highly doubt Donnie Nelson knew Chandler was all the sudden gonna because healthy and return to 2008 form. At the time, Mavfan had every reason to be upset about the trade.

[Findog]

Not really given exactly what you said. It worked out well for Dallas, but I highly doubt Donnie Nelson knew Chandler was all the sudden gonna because healthy and return to 2008 form. At the time, Mavfan had every reason to be upset about the trade.

I do believe that they got him mainly for his expiring contract and not because of his play. He'd had injury problems and they had just inked Haywood to a big deal thinking he was going to be the answer at Center. Now I bet they're wishing Chandler was still under contract and they didn't have to pay him.

Who would have thought Mark and Donnie would be right all along: The Dust Chip did yield us the missing piece for a title. :lol

[Findog]

A year ago at this time I would have laughed hysterically if you told me Tyson Chandler would be the missing piece to a Mavs championship...JJ Barea could be a key contributor to a title team, and not somebody whose presence on the court made me want to pull an Elvis and shoot the television set.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I do believe that they got him mainly for his expiring contract and not because of his play.
eg fucking zactly. They ran out of time on the DUST chip, so they traded it for another expiring. Nothing about post-08 Chandler would make him a player they coveted with the DUST chip.

It worked out well, but it wasn't a carefully thought-out well calculated decision where they traded for Chandler because he was the missing piece at center.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

The funny thing is :lolKC prolly wins a championship if they let that Chandler trade go through and let him get healthy

[hater]

All that build up for Tyson Chandler? Dude isn't even insurable.

oops

[frodo]

LOL none of you pseudos applauded this deal on TC's arrival

O YE OF LITTLE FAITH

[frodo]

A year ago at this time I would have laughed hysterically if you told me Tyson Chandler would be the missing piece to a Mavs championship...JJ Barea could be a key contributor to a title team, and not somebody whose presence on the court made me want to pull an Elvis and shoot the television set.

it seems i was the only one out of the whole board who praised this move, when no one else agreed with me. C used to be the weakline of your squad, the shortest stave of a barrel so even though TC was not the best player available at that time (iggy/ellis/g-force all better players individually), he could be da one last piece to complete yo championship puzzle more likely than any of those big names mentioned above.

[lefty]

OMG :lmao

[frodo]

Not really given exactly what you said. It worked out well for Dallas, but I highly doubt Donnie Nelson knew Chandler was all the sudden gonna because healthy and return to 2008 form. At the time, Mavfan had every reason to be upset about the trade.

it was really a gamble no doubt but it was worthy of taking the risk imho. mavs already have redundant talents at other positions, although they had signed contract whore atm their paint still looked rather weak. their had no bench depth at PF either but they felt OK with it because marion can play at PF temporarily and they could go small-ball once in a while

[hater]

LOL none of you pseudos applauded this deal on TC's arrival

O YE OF LITTLE FAITH


this is depressing

[4>0rings]

Just a bunch of mainstream front running mavfans.

[ClipshowDynasty]

lol passing on 20-10 to get 6-6

and dumbfucks at db.com actually like it unless i can't detect sarcasm

:lobt2:

[Booharv]

Not really given exactly what you said. It worked out well for Dallas, but I highly doubt Donnie Nelson knew Chandler was all the sudden gonna because healthy and return to 2008 form. At the time, Mavfan had every reason to be upset about the trade.


eg fucking zactly. They ran out of time on the DUST chip, so they traded it for another expiring. Nothing about post-08 Chandler would make him a player they coveted with the DUST chip.

It worked out well, but it wasn't a carefully thought-out well calculated decision where they traded for Chandler because he was the missing piece at center.

:lol tbh the one trade I would compare it to is the Gasol trade. Memba det one? When the Lakers traded Pau Gasol for his fat little brother and then Marc suddenly surpised everyone and became a stud. Some retards were saying Chris Wallace made some shrewd move and that he could tell in advance Marc would lose the weifght and become a great pro. Meanwhile he was a fucking throw in who had just been drafted like 55th or something. Nothing like reviosionist history. :lol:lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lol you being so angry Chris Wallace is a better GM than your BF Daryl Morey

[ElNono]

In my defense I was basing that on what he did in Charlotte and not New Orleans. One of the dumbest things I've ever said on here.

Epic bump.

Meh, I didn't think he would be THE piece either. If you look a couple of pages in this thread, I didn't think the trade was horrible either, just a salary dump to have cap room later on.

But Tyson ended up being a fundamental piece. Props also for staying healthy, which was another big if coming in.

[DMC]

I knew TC was for real and could not believe OKC passed on him. Hopefully the team doc was fired.

When I stared the "Congrats" thread, I called out the front runners and none of them responded, nary a one. Yet now they have the championship pics in their avatars.

Must suck to be so shell shocked, like a beaten chihuahua.

[frodo]

I knew TC was for real and could not believe OKC passed on him. Hopefully the team doc was fired.

When I stared the "Congrats" thread, I called out the front runners and none of them responded, nary a one. Yet now they have the championship pics in their avatars.

Must suck to be so shell shocked, like a beaten chihuahua.

TC failed the medical test imho otherwise he would've joined OKC before the bobcats

btw nothing feels closely as bad as being a chink imo

[DMC]

TC failed the medical test imho otherwise he would've joined OKC before the bobcats

btw nothing feels closely as bad as being a chink imo
I will take your word for it.

[DPG21920]

fuck this team

Classic BadTakes :lol

[Venti Quattro]

FUCK YOU DONNIE

FUCK YOU MARK CUBAN

fuck this cursed shit ass franchise to hell

:lmao

[BlackSwordsMan]

Not one bad post from Ghazi. He never turned his back on his team.

[dunkman]

Dampier was supposed to be the defensive anchor of the Mavs, but ended being an white elephant. Eventually by trading him the Mavs obtained the last player they needed for a championship team.

They could have probably win more with better coaches and better trades. It took the Mavs a really long time to put the right coach and the right combination of players around Nowitzki.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Truth be told, Ghazi is the one person who has the right to say anyone was "Wrong bout dem Mavs". He's the only person who wasn't.

[DMC]

Truth be told, Ghazi is the one person who has the right to say anyone was "Wrong bout dem Mavs". He's the only person who wasn't.


http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4834977&postcount=101

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Props, but I was more referring to Mavfan giving people shit for being wrong. Most of them were as wrong as everyone else.

With that said, I don't blame them at all for being pessimistic every step of the way.

[Axe Murderer]

back on page 7 when DAF went on a quotefest


great fucking move:cry

BUMP

RIGHT

BOUT

CHANDLER:hat:hat:hat

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

DAF seriously saying Vince Young would be superbowl MVP (and then of course saying he wasn't serious) makes quoting wrong predictions something he shouldn't do tbh.

[Axe Murderer]

actually DAF didn't say anything groundbreaking, all he said was this

"I think this move will be a lot better than what Mavs fans think, and the Jefferson one wouldn't have been as good as they thought it could be"

that basically says nothing

[Pelicans78]

The only question mark on TC was his ability to stay healthy.

Hornets tried to trade him to OKC to get rid of his salary for expiring contracts, get under the luxury tax for the following season, and get two healthy frontcourt players in Chris Wilcox and Joe Smith who would have helped the team the rest of the season. If that trade went down, Hornets would have finished better than 7th in the West and possibly could have advanced out of the first round, plus would have had more cap room in the future. Instead, they get stuck with an injured TC and have to go with a rotation of Hilton Armstrong, Melvin Ely, and Sean Marks the rest of the season.

The reason TC was traded to Charlotte was because the Hornets felt he was damaged goods, plus they wanted to get under the luxury tax at the time, and acquire a durable, solid everyday center in Okafor who has been that. I would still do the trade to OKC today to be honest because it would have helped the Hornets alot more than having an injured TC for two seasons even though TC was the 2nd best player on that 2007-2008 Hornets team. His foot injury in Game 5 was a huge reason why they lost the Spurs series because they had to double Duncan the rest of the series and he was as effective offensively in the pick n roll.

I'm pretty sure Dallas had no idea what impact TC would have on the team especially after re-signing Haywood to a big contract, but to their credit, they started TC right away after proving to be healthy for Team USA and looking good in the preseason.

[DPG21920]

so instead of getting an impact player like say, Iggy or Jefferson, you're happy with this bullshit ass excuse for a move??? FUCK YOU, you're just as retarded as the rest


this is fucking bullshit, if there was such thing as maverick fans in dallas then i'd say cuban and donnie should watch their backs

..but oh wait..there aren't any anymore

So wrong :lol

[DPG21920]

What the motherfuck..


FUCK YOU DONNIE

FUCK YOU MARK CUBAN

fuck this cursed shit ass franchise to hell

:lmao with these takes. Were you mad that you were so wrong and you couldn't celebrate Koolaid_man?

[DPG21920]

U mad cause u wrong, Kool?

[DPG21920]

Nope.

[DPG21920]

Great points. I was about to write something along the same lines.

Mav fan to DPG


Mav fans to TC:

:lol U Wrong girl

[DPG21920]

:lmao You have to defend yourself to me

[DPG21920]

U mad that everyone knows how you are Kool now. Does that ruin all the cool stuff you had planned for the internet?

[DPG21920]

I'm only here to talk basketball though. You are a racist murderer and you need to change the person you are inside. I am here to help, just PM me Kool.

[greensborohill]

No time for losers cuz we are the champions!!!!!

[greensborohill]

The value of the DUST chip after all?

a couple dollars and a box of condoms.


How's this for value?

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/04QRafW3OQeWB/x350.jpg

[DPG21920]

FUCK YOU DONNIE

FUCK YOU MARK CUBAN

fuck this cursed shit ass franchise to hell


shut the fuck up you stupid fucking piece of shit

is that houston humidity getting to your head enough to make you forget you're a rocket fan? lol rocket fan talking shit, what a joke


so instead of getting an impact player like say, Iggy or Jefferson, you're happy with this bullshit ass excuse for a move??? FUCK YOU, you're just as retarded as the rest


this is fucking bullshit, if there was such thing as maverick fans in dallas then i'd say cuban and donnie should watch their backs

..but oh wait..there aren't any anymore


then fuck mark, donnie, and you too asshole


has dirk signed the contract yet or is it still possible for him to back out? i want to see this team crash and fucking burn


This is a gamble by the mavs.


Ur lame.


unfortunately not as lame as Donnie who is probably the worst GM of all time, along with mark "im a business computer genius but still somehow fucking retarded" cuban.


All they have done is buy themselves more time to poach someone they really want. This gives them until the deadline to see if any better players become available. If not, even with the cap space, that is a major risk w next seasons FA class and the CBA up for renewal.

This I think needs to be explored further. I just saw things differently than most, but others saw it their way. I wonder if now seeing what transpired if smart posters feel more like I did at the time or more like the other poster?

[DPG21920]

lol at tyson_chandler's meltdown

Had to point it out again, lol irony