lol David Kahn

[Findog]

http://www.nba.com/video/channels/nba_tv/2010/07/14/kahn_intv.nba/

"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence."

KAHN!!!!!!!!!!!

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[Findog]

Just some gold in this clip:

"I'm really curious what you see in Darko that nobody else does."

"For whatever reason Mike D'Antoni chose not to play him." That's cause he fucking sucks Dave.

"For us he's like manna from heaven."

[fo'shizzle]

Man, Kahn is one retarded muthafucka!

[Amarelooms]

He seems gay to me....not that anything is wrong with that....

:elephant

[Amarelooms]

He seems gay to me....not that anything is wrong with that....

:elephant

[Double-Up]

No this is gay you fake ass mavfan Amare dickriding faggot.

:elephant:elephant:elephant

[Shastafarian]

I love how he talked about how updating the practice facility and offering meals was gonna change the culture of losing.

:lol

#1 GM

[Crytek]

:wakeup
If i think we could have had Bill Simmons...........

[Findog]

I love how he talked about how updating the practice facility and offering meals was gonna change the culture of losing.

:lol

#1 GM

How does this guy have a job still?

[InRareForm]

the "good luck" at the end was the best

[Udokafan05]

Glad Webber finally told him how it is.

[Shastafarian]

How does this guy have a job still?

The question I've been asking about him and Chris Wallace since the off-season began. They have both sucked for years though.

[Goran Dragic]

Chris Wallace has actually made progress with the team he tookover and has produced a team that shows some promise, it's pretty clear how inept Kahn's been from day 1. People overrate GMs and don't consider the luck element. If Chris Wallace got the #2 pick in 2007 and Sam Presti got the #4 pick (when Memphis had the worst record in basketball), who knows what we'd think of each GM right now.

[Findog]

The question I've been asking about him and Chris Wallace since the off-season began. They have both sucked for years though.

And the Nets just hired Billy King. I can't believe that these guys keep getting jobs. Memphis is not Wallace's first rodeo either.

I guess in some ways it's an extension of the corporate world, guys playing off their connections and being a part of the good ol' boys network. John Thain was hired again after he ran Merrill Lynch off a cliff.

[Findog]

Chris Wallace has actually made progress with the team he tookover and has produced a team that shows some promise, it's pretty clear how inept Kahn's been from day 1. People overrate GMs and don't consider the luck element. If Chris Wallace got the #2 pick in 2007 and Sam Presti got the #4 pick (when Memphis had the worst record in basketball), who knows what we'd think of each GM right now.

Wallace has made some terrible moves, but one thing you have to consider is that he plays for a penny-pinching owner who has given him marching orders before to salary dump talent. They have a nice core if they're willing to keep it intact.

[Goran Dragic]

Wallace has also made several good moves, and he got what he could for Pau Gasol when he was probably facing a lot of pressure from both Heisley and West to trade him. Conley and Thabeet were two top 5 pick fuckups (but he had no way of knowing Conley was a lazy P.O.S.), but whatever he's done produced results. He took over a team that had the worst record in the league and now that team has a young roster than can make the playoffs.

[Shastafarian]

Wallace has gotten lucky. At his core he's the idiot who just gave Rudy Gay $82 million. Or the idiot who gave Darko $7 million a year. Or the idiot who traded away a premiere big man for pennies.

[Shastafarian]

Max out Pau Gasol? Fuck that! I'm gonna trade his ass for his younger, fatter brother.

Max out Rudy Gay? Fuck yes!

[Goran Dragic]

I'm not denying he's made some really dumb moves, but you can't argue with the results. He's gotten lucky with a lot of things like trading for Randolph right when he decides to stop being a complete idiot and only a small idiot, but trading Kevin Love for OJ Mayo was legitimately highway robbery. Being forced to trade Pau Gasol and managing to get a promising young center out of the deal was somewhat savvy. Memphis is in way better shape than they were when he took over.

[Goran Dragic]

You can't honestly think he was the main man behind the Gasol trade. Heisley wanted to cut payroll and had tons of pressure from season ticket holders to trade Gasol, and we all know about the Jerry West involvement. I highly doubt a properly functioning human being voluntarily chose to forever be known as the GM that made that trade. There's a lot more to that trade than Chris Wallace.

You're right though about Rudy Gay. That'll be the downfall of any shot Wallace had at building a good team. This off season was his chance to improve Memphis but letting Gay go, resigning Brewer and making Memphis a defensive team with the offense run through OJ Mayo.

[Shastafarian]

Memphis is in way better shape than they were when he took over.

Disagree. They were making the playoffs and had a top 5 PF/C. Now they're trying to make the playoffs and have no one top 10 at their position. I am of course assuming Zach Randolph either goes to jail or goes back to being the second fattest person in the NBA (sup Eddy Curry).

[Shastafarian]

The Rudy Gay deal is one of the worst deals this summer. Could be the worst when all is said and done.

[Goran Dragic]

Disagree. They were making the playoffs and had a top 5 PF/C. Now they're trying to make the playoffs and have no one top 10 at their position. I am of course assuming Zach Randolph either goes to jail or goes back to being the second fattest person in the NBA (sup Eddy Curry).


He took over as GM of Memphis after the 2007 season when Memphis had the worst record in the NBA at 22-60. I'd hardly call that "making the playoffs".

[Seventyniner]

I'm not denying he's made some really dumb moves, but you can't argue with the results. He's gotten lucky with a lot of things like trading for Randolph right when he decides to stop being a complete idiot and only a small idiot, but trading Kevin Love for OJ Mayo was legitimately highway robbery. Being forced to trade Pau Gasol and managing to get a promising young center out of the deal was somewhat savvy. Memphis is in way better shape than they were when he took over.

I'm not seeing it. The Grizzlies record in the last seven years:
2003-2004: 50-32 (made playoffs)
2004-2005: 45-37 (made playoffs)
2005-2006: 49-33 (made playoffs)
2006-2007: 22-60
(Wallace took over as GM here)
2007-2008: 22-60
2008-2009: 24-58
2009-2010: 40-42

[Goran Dragic]

I'm not seeing it. The Grizzlies record in the last seven years:
2003-2004: 50-32 (made playoffs)
2004-2005: 45-37 (made playoffs)
2005-2006: 49-33 (made playoffs)
2006-2007: 22-60
(Wallace took over as GM here)
2007-2008: 22-60
2008-2009: 24-58
2009-2010: 40-42


Wallace took over a 22 win team. They are now a 40 win team. What are you not seeing, that's nearly double the win total from when he took over.

[Shastafarian]

Gasol was injured to start that year. They got off to a horrible start and never recovered. They also had Chucky Atkins as their starting PG. Doesn't change the fact that they had made the playoffs 3 straight years and haven't made them once since he took over.

[Goran Dragic]

Gasol was injured to start that year. They got off to a horrible start and never recovered. They also had Chucky Atkins as their starting PG. Doesn't change the fact that they had made the playoffs 3 straight years and haven't made them once since he took over.

Do you honestly believe Chris Wallace took over a playoff team?

Chris Wallace took over the team that just got the worst record in the NBA, plain and simple. The fact they made the playoffs in 2006 (when they still had a capable PG, a stud defender in Battier, and Pau Gasol before he stopped giving a shit) shouldn't be held against Chris Wallace. There were major roster differences from their 2006 team to their 2007 team.

It's not like they were a playoff team when he traded Gasol, they were near the bottom of the standings at the time. If they were a playoff team at the time of the trade, chances are they wouldn't have been so inclined to trade Gasol. They could have easily gotten more, but trading Gasol for young players and cap relief made perfect sense at the time.

[Shastafarian]

Do you honestly believe Chris Wallace took over a playoff team?No but he made his team worse.



It's not like they were a playoff team when he traded Gasol, they were near the bottom of the standings at the time. If they were a playoff team at the time of the trade, chances are they wouldn't have been so inclined to trade Gasol. They could have easily gotten more, but trading Gasol for young players and cap relief made perfect sense at the time.

It did make sense. It's just a shame he took the first offer that was set on fire and placed on his doorstep. That's the real issue. He didn't seek out other deals.

[Shastafarian]

One thing we can probably agree on is David Kahn sucks worse at his job than Wallace.

[Goran Dragic]

No but he made his team worse.
When he traded Gasol Memphis was 13-32. Maybe that technically made them worse, but when you're 13-32, who gives a shit?



did make sense. It's just a shame he took the first offer that was set on fire and placed on his doorstep. That's the real issue. He didn't seek out other deals.
Do you think that he might have wanted to get better offers but Heisley breathing down his neck and Jerry West breathing down Heisley's neck made it hard to do that?


And yeah, I agree Kahn is way worse than Wallace :lol, only executive who might be worse than Kahn is the cock gobbler the Suns just hired as president of basketball operations