Game Blog: Spurs vs. Lakers - Summer League Game 3

[timvp]

FTL.

Win this game.

[ace3g]

looks like Gist won't play today

Jeff McDonald JMcDonald_SAEN

No Gist for warm-ups. Seems like that wrist injury from yesterday will keep him out. Blair might wind up playing just so #spurs have bodies.

Jeff McDonald JMcDonald_SAEN

Now Pop, Garrett Temple and James Anderson are laughing, apparently about a dude in a Kobe jersey who came down to heckle. #spurs

you can delete this thread

[ace3g]

JMcDonald_SAEN

Blair left gym after talking to Pop, came back with the sleeve cut off lower leg. Not sure if this makes him more or less likely to play.

[ace3g]

JMcDonald_SAEN

Cell phone photo of Blair's warmup. Is that a jump shot I see? http://twitpic.com/25kl04

[Spurs Brazil]

FTL.
Go Spurs Go

[ace3g]

Starting Lineup: Neal, Gee, Watkins, Jerrells,Tyler Wilkerson

[ace3g]

Jeff McDonald JMcDonald_SAEN

Blair not in starting 5, but FWIW looks more engaged in this game than previous two. Sitting right next to coaching staff, not behind bench.

[ace3g]

Neal gets a offensive rebound and then makes a jumper on the baseline, then gets a steal and then Gee gets a dunk

[lefty]

Fuck the referees

[ace3g]

Wilkerson gets a nice baseline jumper

[ace3g]

Gee misses the corner 3

[ace3g]

then gets a loose ball but hesitates on the open FT jumper and misses

[tuncaboylu]

This season summer league is done for Gee, noone else. We couldn't play with Templei Richards and James Anderson. Blair and Hairston are under contract and they also DNP-by coach decision. So the whole meaning of summer league for Spurs is only Alonzo Gee. He's doing well by the way.

[biziofromdowntown]

good move jerrells

[tdunk21]

FTL and FPJ

[ace3g]

Wilkerson likes that baseline J

[Spurs Brazil]

Nice move by Jerrells

[tdunk21]

good layup jerrells

[ace3g]

spurs

Malik Hairston is here at Spurs Basketball Camp speaking to the kids #gospursgo http://twitpic.com/25kt06

[Spurs Brazil]

JMcDonald_SAEN
More SA ties: Jacque Vaughn is assisting Mike Budenholzer w/ Spurs. Damon Stoudemire is assistant on Memphis bench.
Coaching Lakers' summer squad, btw: Ex Spurs gunner Chuck Person. Elsewhere in Vegas, Mario Elie is guiding Summer Sacramento Kings.

[ace3g]

nice drive my mitchell

[Texas_Ranger]

who is that white guy that can't play basketball?

[angelbelow]

Mitchell with the nice move.

[angelbelow]

Box score: http://www.nba.com/summerleague/games/20100715/LALSAS/gameinfo.html

[ace3g]

lolol who the heck is #14 on the Spurs. That white guy looks so out of place

Sean Denison

[Libri]

aggressive drive by Mitchell

[yavozerb]

at work, any live streaming of the the game?

[Texas_Ranger]

Sean Denison

No, it's Lomers

[angelbelow]

Haha I can see why laker fans say they think theyre seeing Ariza out there in Ebanks. The resemblance is uncanny.

[ace3g]

floater by Neal Spurs 23-18, Lakers call a timeout

[Libri]

Neal is kicking ass.

[silverblackfan]

Neal is looking good and the team is flowing better when Squeaky is in there.

[ChumpDumper]

Temple with the bionic leg.

[The Great Fantastic]

The announcers just quoted Popovich as saying "Garrett Temple is my new favorite player." George Hill is going to be jealous........

[angelbelow]

Neal definitely has a beautiful shot. But I think one of the posters (bruno?) mentioned that hes a star in europe and will probably get a nice contract there.

[ChumpDumper]

Neal definitely has a beautiful shot. But I think one of the posters (bruno?) mentioned that hes a star in europe and will probably get a nice contract there.Yeah, I don't think he'll be sticking around for a nonguaranteed training camp invite. Just a bunch of talented undersized players on this team.

[biziofromdowntown]

Neal definitely has a beautiful shot. But I think one of the posters (bruno?) mentioned that hes a star in europe and will probably get a nice contract there.

Yeah, i've news on some contracts offered to him for next season.

[ace3g]

nice drive by Jerrells, going to the line for and1

[angelbelow]

CJ with the nice drive.. but I think it might be important for him to start showing playmaking abilities..

[angelbelow]

"8 rebounds mean you can work it and 12 rebounds means you can put it in the hole" - D Scott

[Libri]

Watkins sucks

[ChumpDumper]

Jerrells needs another season with the Toros to learn the point. The question is whether it will be as a Spur send down or returning Toro.

[angelbelow]

Jerrells needs another season with the Toros to learn the point. The question is whether it will be as a Spur send down or returning Toro.

Who do you guys think is the better scorer as of right now and/or by the end of the preseason: CJ or Gee?

Whoever it is will probably be favored IMO.

[siraulo23]

lol back to back fastbreak fail

[ace3g]

2 bad passes to Neal in the Corner sail wide

[Rito3d30]

FUCK Jerrells....

[angelbelow]

That Mitchell fumble pass was hilarious.. he was so confident lol

[ChumpDumper]

Who do you guys think is the better scorer as of right now and/or by the end of the preseason: CJ or Gee?

Whoever it is will probably be favored IMO.Different positions, but both have deficiencies they need to improve before they can safely stick in the NBA. For Gee, it's ballhandling and outside shooting. For Jerrells it's running the point. Jerrells' task seems a little tougher and there are already nominally three point guards on the team. If Jefferson doesn't come back and the Spurs strike out in free agency, Gee becomes pretty valuable.

[Mal]

this team is looking worse and worse from minute to minute

[Libri]

CJ the ball hog

[ChumpDumper]

2 bad passes to Neal in the Corner sail wideThat first pass by Gee was catchable.

[Rito3d30]

I'm starting to doubt if we can ever see Blair play in SL
on te boxscore his discription is DND - Injured...

[angelbelow]

Different positions, but both have deficiencies they need to improve before they can safely stick in the NBA. For Gee, it's ballhandling and outside shooting. For Jerrells it's running the point. Jerrells' task seems a little tougher and there are already nominally three point guards on the team. If Jefferson doesn't come back and the Spurs strike out in free agency, Gee becomes pretty valuable.

Yea I agree.. but I think whoever is the better scorer will have the advantage because they at least one attribute they have down while they can work on their respective deficiencies.

For a guy like Gee, I think he needs to work on his outside shooting since hes already giving great defense pressure. Incase he can't slash or drive he may be valuable as a catch and shoot (assuming he works hard at this) + defensive wing

For Jerrells, it may be harder since hes going to have to learn a whole new position. But I like his defensive activity as well.

[angelbelow]

I'm starting to doubt if we can ever see Blair play in SL
on te boxscore his discription is DND - Injured...

Not a bad thing, he should rest up if hes even a little hurt. If 100% healthy I would love to see him play too.

[spursdotcom]

Questions for Dwayne Mitchell? Please send them in here: http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4513498#post4513498

:toast

[Mal]

Wow, how many young spurs are out from summer league.

[Mal]

Neal is a great shooter.

[Libri]

Lomers got blocked twice on the same shot.

[Texas_Ranger]

Lomers can't play... wtf is he doing there??

[ohmwrecker]

I told you Lomers is a stiff.

[Rito3d30]

sqeaky is a really good defender:king

[ace3g]

dang nice 360 dunk by Gee!!!

[Refocus]

Sick dunk by Gee

[Libri]

ooh, very nice dunk by Gee

[ohmwrecker]

I think Gee might be too athletic to play for the Spurs.

[ohmwrecker]

Squeaky "Wee Ooh Wee Ooh Wee" Johnson!

[Libri]

I'm liking how that Squeaky is playing.

[Mal]

Definately there is a lot of talent in there. This Gee looks really great. Neal is a great shooter. Jerrells also could be usefull. Spurs should invite this guys to camp

[Rito3d30]

Obviously squeaky can score at will
he just try not to play like the fucking CJ

[ace3g]

Gee with another and1 opp

If he can just get a perimeter shot....

[taps]

Squeaky 'Lil Wayne' Johnson dominating the last few plays of the 3rd quarter

[ohmwrecker]

Could the Spurs summer league team beat the Timberwolves?

[ace3g]

WojYahooNBA

A nod to Cliff Puchalski, one of the real PR pros in the NBA. He's leaving the Spurs, but he will be heard from again soon.

Who is this?

[ChumpDumper]

Could the Spurs summer league team beat the Timberwolves?Not with these big men.

[ace3g]

nice interior pass by Jee to Watkins

[ohmwrecker]

Not with these big men.

OK. Add Blair and Splitter.

[ChumpDumper]

OK. Add Blair and Splitter.Then it wouldn't be the summer league team.

[ohmwrecker]

Then it wouldn't be the summer league team.

Blair is on the roster . . .

[ChumpDumper]

Blair is on the roster . . .Splitter is not . . .

[ace3g]

big 3 by Neal

[ace3g]

Watkins and Wilkerson have been playing well today

[ace3g]

another baseline floater for Neal, who has 20 pts

[ohmwrecker]

Splitter is not . . .

Details . . . details.

[angelbelow]

Wilkerson is such a work horse. Love his effort but does he have enough skill to back up his motor?

[Obstructed_View]

They should just call every team in summer league the Lakers so they can fill the stands for all the games.

[ace3g]

Ftl 3-0!!!!!

[timvp]

Nice job. FTL.

[ChumpDumper]

Gee and Jerrell's weaknesses are still glaring.

Neal looks great as a role player if he wants to stay in the states.

Wilkerson could make training camp.

[ace3g]

Neal is on his honeymoon playing basketball, lol!!!

Spurs know how to make newly weds feel welcomed

[ace3g]

Neal's jumper looks much slower then it did in those youtube videos I watched, I wonder if he made some adjustments to it.

[Libri]

Gee and Jerrell's weaknesses are still glaring.

Neal looks great as a role player if he wants to stay in the states.

Wilkerson could make training camp.

Does Squeaky have any offense or does he only play defense? His offensive stats from the Toros doesn't impress.

[ohmwrecker]

I like Neal over Gee right now.

[ohmwrecker]

Does Squeaky have any offense or does he only play defense? His offensive stats from the Toros doesn't impress.

Not much. That shot that went in high off the glass shocked me.

[Obstructed_View]

CJ plays pretty good defense. He's just too small for a shooting guard in the NBA.

[Vic Petro]

Neal is a find...he has a legit NBA skill right now with that jump shot. He plays defense poorly which would keep him from earning a major role, but there's no reason he can't play spot minutes off the bench when we need shots.

While he might get a nice contract in Europe, teams are struggling to offer big money there too. I think with a guaranteed roster spot and chance to earn minutes, he might stick around.

He is certainly a better gamble than Marcus friggin Haislip.

[EricB]

Disappointed in Gee. Thought he would have improved a bit and shown more.

[spursbird]

Fuck, why can we win 3 straight games without even a leader like Hill and Blair?

[ace3g]

JMcDonald_SAEN

James Gist has a sprained left wrist. Out 1-2 weeks. Won't play again in Vegas, obviously.

[Spurs Brazil]

McDonald
James Gist has a sprained left wrist. Out 1-2 weeks. Won't play again in Vegas, obviously. #spurs

[BackHome]

At this point I don't think Jerrels makes the teams and I am not talking about the Spurs I am talking about the Toros. I see no upside in keeping him he just doesn't have pg skills and will never be able to change.

Neal is very interesting the guy has a sweet shot and I am allready thinking of a line up like this......

Pg. Temple
SG. Neal
SF. Anderson
PF. Blair
C. Splitter

I like Gee as far as him being atheltic but did the guy even work on his outside shot? He should have been working right along side Blair with Chip on his shot.

It is going to be interesting at the SG slot where you have Hill, Manu, Anderson, Hairston, and now maybe Neal. So it is going to come down to Hairston and Neal.

I think for sure that Gist gets put on the Toros and Reynolds also from what he said when drafted.

[ElNono]

Just finished watching this... Neal was a man out there...
This game just shows you that there will be games where Gee can't just simply get away with driving to the rack at will. He needs to work out with Chip on that shot, and he'll be a heck of a player. His defense is already there, and nobody can't complain about his athleticism and work ethic.

[ChumpDumper]

Does Squeaky have any offense or does he only play defense? His offensive stats from the Toros doesn't impress.He occasionally scores in bunches and has a decent 3pt stroke, but he is almost loathe to score. Can run an offense and has an extremely low turnover rate.

[tuncaboylu]

I watched the 2nd half. Neal was good, I know him while he was playing in Turkey. He was an excellent scorer here and he showed his quality in summer league. The speakers told that he spend his last year in one of the European big teams Benetton Treviso. Benetton is not a European big since last 3 or 4 years but not a bad team at all.
Unfortunately Neal plays SG and we can't use him as a back-up PG position.

Beside him I really like Wilkerson, he has a nice touch and good athlete. Watkins was good at rebounds but he's far away from being an NBA player.

Alonzo Gee was not good in this match. He showed some flashes, (like his 180 dunk), but he couldn't shine in the game. Jerrells was not good too, i didn't like his game yesterday.

Our summer league team is a very good, all the players are playing well together and defending very hard. But none of them can be more than a 12-13th player in NBA.

And an advice to Lommers. He's 7 footer and 280 lbs, but he should change his job. He has no chance in playing basketball:(

[Obstructed_View]

Just rewatched the game on the big TV. The Lakers seem to have the most pro-caliber players, so this was likely going to tell us more than previous games. I have a couple of thoughts; hope they're helpful or inspire a bit of conversation.


As a Baylor fan, I haven't pulled any punches in my critique of Curtis Jerrells, but I think CJ did a great job of running the offense, far better than he's done so far this summer league. There's no doubt he can handle the ball, and he's excellent at creating space for himself, but against the Lakers he did the same thing with a focus on setting up his teammates. He still took shots for himself on occasion, and he still had a couple of WTF shots, but he probably warrants an invite to camp just to see if he can continue that play making ability with guys who are more likely to finish. Not a ton of assists, but he made several very good passes to teammates that should have resulted in scores.


Patrick Watkins looks exactly like Robert Horry on the floor. The only thing he lacks is desire, hustle, and a basketball IQ. He and Lomers are threatening to become the softest center rotation in summer league history.


Dwayne Mitchell's intriguing, but I don't know if it's anything more than his athletecism. Can the Spurs hire Bruce Bowen to give him a crash course in defense? Is he tall enough? Does he actually have short arms or does he just look that way because of his physique?


Tyler Wilkerson is another guy that surprised me a bit. I'm going to go back and watch all his minutes. He has a nice shooting touch and I'm more impressed with his nine rebounds than I was with Watkins' 11.


Many people on this board suggested that Gee shoot from the outside more even if he had a lane to the basket, and it seems he was given that same advice before this game. He obliged those folks and his game completely came apart. To his credit, he didn't seem to lose interest and still gave effort, but he wasn't effective on the offensive end. He went back to work in the second half and was much better. I believe he even hit a few outside shots once he got his rhythm going. I still say having guys who have a nose for the rim and can play in traffic have more value than guys who can only score from outside.


While I'm on that topic, Gary "choo-choo" Neal can shoot, and he isn't really good at anything else. I fully expect Pop to invite him to camp and pronounce him his favorite player at some point if Temple doesn't get healthy pretty quick. I'm only half serious, and wish I weren't.

[Cane]

While I'm on that topic, Gary "choo-choo" Neal can shoot, and he isn't really good at anything else. I fully expect Pop to invite him to camp and pronounce him his favorite player at some point if Temple doesn't get healthy pretty quick. I'm only half serious, and wish I weren't.
[/LIST]

No reason to be half serious, imo Pop doesn't like Temple and Hill because they can shoot. He likes 'em because of their hustle, they improve their overall games, and they're active defensively. And maybe they like listening to his stories as well.

[Russ]

Just rewatched the game on the big TV.
While I'm on that topic, Gary "choo-choo" Neal can shoot, and he isn't really good at anything else. I fully expect Pop to invite him to camp and pronounce him his favorite player at some point if Temple doesn't get healthy pretty quick. I'm only half serious, and wish I weren't.

I know Neal's rep is as a shooter and nothing more, but in watching the Laker game, I noticed some quick hands on D. He was prying some balls away in traffic.

He also seems a little bigger than I thought and he's solid as a rock -- it's hard to find a pure shooter who also has an NBA body like he's got.

I think he has high upside in the Spurs' system.

[quentin_compson]

I wasn't really impressed with any of the Bigs, to be honest.
Jerrells was good, but I don't know if he really can become a backup-PG for the Spurs.
Neal is a very nice shooter. Too bad Anderson can't play right now, I really would have liked to see him out there.
The team defense was pretty good, especially in the first half.

[Obstructed_View]

No reason to be half serious, imo Pop doesn't like Temple and Hill because they can shoot. He likes 'em because of their hustle, they improve their overall games, and they're active defensively. And maybe they like listening to his stories as well.

Neal has more in common with guys like over the hill Michael Finley and pre Golden State Anthony Tolliver than he does with Temple or Hill.

[Russ]

Does anyone know Blair's injury status?

[Obstructed_View]

I've seen nothing beyond "tightness in his right calf" which I think comes from JMac, so it's not even for certain that it's not his left calf.

[Russ]

Thanks. For some reason I thought it was a knee.

[Obstructed_View]

Thanks. For some reason I thought it was a knee.

That's ACL paranoia whispering in your ear.

[biziofromdowntown]

Does gist done for this summer league with his wrist injury?