BP Stops Oil Leak…

[Sportcamper]

BP Stops Oil Leak…

All of that whining & complaining, Congressional hearings over nothing!

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/07/15/gulf.oil.disaster/index.html?hpt=C1

[Wild Cobra]

Let's hope it is stopped. Nothing is certain yet.

[admiralsnackbar]

Hope the OP is right, but let's give it 3 weeks. BP needs investors to think the leak is fixed right now.

[Wild Cobra]

Hope the OP is right, but let's give it 3 weeks. BP needs investors to think the leak is fixed right now.
But Obama will bail them out like he did the bank investors, right?

[CosmicCowboy]

We really won't know till tomorrow. It could still be leaking sub-surface.

[MannyIsGod]

We really won't know till tomorrow. It could still be leaking sub-surface.

From what I gather thats the biggest fear. If it is then they need to end this test as soon as they see it is leaking there so to prevent the entire thing from collapsing in upon itself.

[CosmicCowboy]

From what I gather thats the biggest fear. If it is then they need to end this test as soon as they see it is leaking there so to prevent the entire thing from collapsing in upon itself.

I'm sure they will. The good news is that even if they can't just turn it off they will at least have a positive seal and can recover 100% of the oil until the relief wells come in. Assuming, of course, they don't have to leave the site for a hurricane.

[boutons_deux]

"can recover 100% of the oil"

one long-time oil guy said BP may not want to recover all oil, since fines are based on qty of oil. If some oil is captured, but some is not, then BP scumbag lawyers can always argue down the amt for the fine.

Capturing all the oil now makes it accurately countable, all the way back to the original blowout.

BP will always have its own interest ($$$) as its overwhelming priority, not the interests of the Gulf or the Gulf shore residents. There no way to be too cynical about these and any corporate assholes, they're all guilty until proven innocent.

[Winehole23]

BP Stops Oil Leak…

All of that whining & complainingis legit.


Congressional hearings over nothing!
Bullshit. Eleven people died.Tens of millions of gallons spilled isn't nothing.

(Part of) US fisheries in the Gulf of Mexico and not a few people who depend on them, are fucked for the foreseeable future.

There will be Congresional hearings, and they won't be over nothing. Capping the well doesn't restore the status quo ante, as you seem to have suggested, Campershell.

[Spurminator]

:lol I think Camper got you, WH.

[DMX7]

This whole oil spill never happened. Problem solved.

[DarrinS]

Oil is evil. Oh well, I think I'll drive down and check my mailbox.

[LnGrrrR]

Oil is evil. Oh well, I think I'll drive down and check my mailbox.

Oil only does good things in every way. I poured some in my bowl of Wheaties today and I feel fine.

[LnGrrrR]

Delicious!

[lil'mo]

is legit.

Bullshit. Eleven people died.Tens of millions of gallons spilled isn't nothing.

(Part of) US fisheries in the Gulf of Mexico and not a few people who depend on them, are fucked for the foreseeable future.

There will be Congresional hearings, and they won't be over nothing. Capping the well doesn't restore the status quo ante, as you seem to have suggested, Campershell.

10 o'clock in the morning? I just figured she was a raging alcoholic!

[DMX7]

Oil is evil. Oh well, I think I'll drive down and check my mailbox.

Wow, talk about a simpleton response.

[Winehole23]

:lol I think Camper got you, WH.Sure, why not? Maybe I got bored.

It's been pretty dull around here lately.

[boutons_deux]

Now BP starts spewing lawyers and lobbyists, more toxic than any amount of oil.

[admiralsnackbar]

Delicious!

Not to mention a terrific aid for weight-loss! :eyebrows

[Sportcamper]

BP said that they were very sorry…BP capped the well…Lets move on…

[Cry Havoc]

Wow, talk about a simpleton response.

You must be new here.

[Wild Cobra]

Now BP starts spewing lawyers and lobbyists, more toxic than any amount of oil.
Can't be anything like all the red ink spewing out of DC.

[boutons_deux]

WC, parroting the totally hypocritical scare mongering about DEM deficits. Azzhole Kyl exposed you lying fuckers, and McConnell confirmed the entire Repug party agrees with Kyl.

back to oil, and how white corporate "persons" escape punishment, while a couple oz mj gets black/brown kids jail time and a police record

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10548872

[MannyIsGod]

So is the cap holding?

[Nbadan]

Yes, for now, but there are (so far) unsubstantiated rumors circulating that there may be large leaks, possibly subsurface leaks that the MSM, BP and the govt. know about and are not disclosing...

[Winehole23]

(don't wanna jinx it. Nuff said.)

[MannyIsGod]

Either way, this cap won't be a permanent fix, right? They'll open the valves in order to start capturing the oil again or they'll try for another top kill, right?

I'm not going to start buying into conspiracy theories until I have proof.

[Spurminator]

Either way, this cap won't be a permanent fix, right?

Only if they can figure out a way to open up an underwater amusement park around it.

[CosmicCowboy]

Either way, this cap won't be a permanent fix, right? They'll open the valves in order to start capturing the oil again or they'll try for another top kill, right?

I'm not going to start buying into conspiracy theories until I have proof.

I have read that after tests are complete they will tie into the top of the new valve and open it and start capturing the oil again, but this time with a tight fitting cap. Depending on the test results, if a hurricane comes in they will close the valve when they leave for safety (assuming everything tests fine) and reopen it when they come back. If the tests prove that the casing is damaged and leaking they will still have to leave if a hurricane comes, but they will just leave the valve open and let the oil blow till they come back.

[Nbadan]

Either way, this cap won't be a permanent fix, right? They'll open the valves in order to start capturing the oil again or they'll try for another top kill, right?

I'm not going to start buying into conspiracy theories until I have proof.

They are planning on capping the well, using cement fed through one of the relief wells to permanently cap that well...

[CosmicCowboy]

Thats assuming relief well #1 or relief well #2 can actually intersect the bore squarely and actually make a clean penetration. Thats a huge "IF". That will require accuracy measured in a few inches and at those debts +/- five feet is considered extremely accurate. It's gonna take some luck.

[boutons_deux]

BP Launches Effort To Control Scientific Research Of Oil Disaster


Foreign oil giant BP is on a spending spree, buying Gulf Coast scientists for its private contractor army. Scientists from Louisiana State University, Mississippi State University and Texas A&M have “signed contracts with BP to work on their behalf in the Natural Resources Damage Assessment (NRDA) process” that determines how much ecological damage the Gulf of Mexico region is suffering from BP’s toxic black tide. The contract, the Mobile Press-Register has learned, “prohibits the scientists from publishing their research, sharing it with other scientists or speaking about the data that they collect for at least the next three years.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/07/16/bp-closed-research/

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BP going into full Exxon fuck-the-victims/save-our-money mode.

[Trainwreck2100]

Thats assuming relief well #1 or relief well #2 can actually intersect the bore squarely and actually make a clean penetration. Thats a huge "IF". That will require accuracy measured in a few inches and at those debts +/- five feet is considered extremely accurate. It's gonna take some luck.

depths

[boutons_deux]

they say they have some kind of magnetic instrument to guide the relief hole to the first well pipe

[CosmicCowboy]

depths

typo

I'm quite proficient at spelling

[Trainwreck2100]

typo

I'm quite proficient at spelling

spelling's not the problem, it is proofreading. Also that's an impossible typo

[CosmicCowboy]

spelling's not the problem, it is proofreading. Also that's an impossible typo

whatever makes you feel better dude. I know how to spell. Actually my eyes are going a little and I'm trying to get by with those drug store glasses. My screen is just a hair fuzzy at this distance and I didn't catch it. Can't believe you've spent two friggen posts on a mis-spelled word.

[Trainwreck2100]

whatever makes you feel better dude. I know how to spell. Actually my eyes are going a little and I'm trying to get by with those drug store glasses. My screen is just a hair fuzzy at this distance and I didn't catch it. Can't believe you've spent two friggen posts on a mis-spelled word.

whether or not it's misspelled is debatable

[CosmicCowboy]

whether or not it's misspelled is debatable

3 :lmao

[Trainwreck2100]

3 :lmao

to misspell a word like you did when you said "mis-speled"l is a misspelled word

when you use debt instead of depth you're spelling debt correctly so it's not misspelled. You're just using the wrong word.

[CosmicCowboy]

to misspell a word like you did when you said "mis-speled"l is a misspelled word

when you use debt instead of depth you're spelling debt correctly so it's not misspelled. You're just using the wrong word.

4:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Trainwreck2100]

4:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

no wonder nobody likes you, you're a dick

[CosmicCowboy]

5 :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Trainwreck2100]

5 :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

5? that had nothing to do with a misspelled word. Do you even know what you are :lmao about?

[CosmicCowboy]

:lmao

OK

http://www.forumspile.com/Win-Retard_Prize.jpg

[SnakeBoy]

It's pretty funny hearing Obama talk about this. When it was bad news he always said "BP..." now it's "We...".

[CosmicCowboy]

Yep. "We" got the oil stopped. See Ya. I'm going to Maine on Vacation. Y'alls beaches are...nasty!

[Trainwreck2100]

:lmao

OK

http://www.forumspile.com/Win-Retard_Prize.jpg

nice edit i liked the "get a life" response you made better tbh

[CosmicCowboy]

Both replies essentially said the same thing. The second was just a little more subtle.

[Wild Cobra]

"can recover 100% of the oil"

one long-time oil guy said BP may not want to recover all oil, since fines are based on qty of oil. If some oil is captured, but some is not, then BP scumbag lawyers can always argue down the amt for the fine.

Capturing all the oil now makes it accurately countable, all the way back to the original blowout.

BP will always have its own interest ($$$) as its overwhelming priority, not the interests of the Gulf or the Gulf shore residents. There no way to be too cynical about these and any corporate assholes, they're all guilty until proven innocent.
I think you're being too cynical here. Maybe a little less than normal however. Personally, I don't think your suspicion will be correct. If any continues to leak, it will be harder on the company and investors than being shrouded in mystery. At least I don't find this hypothesis as unrealistic compared to most you have.

[Wild Cobra]

Thats assuming relief well #1 or relief well #2 can actually intersect the bore squarely and actually make a clean penetration. Thats a huge "IF". That will require accuracy measured in a few inches and at those debts +/- five feet is considered extremely accurate. It's gonna take some luck.
How do they do that anyway?

Do they use some kind of sonic triangulation?

[CosmicCowboy]

How do they do that anyway?

Do they use some kind of sonic triangulation?

I honestly don't know. I can't imagine it being GPS based. but the fact that they think they can do it just amazes me.

[Wild Cobra]

I honestly don't know. I can't imagine it being GPS based. but the fact that they think they can do it just amazes me.
GPS would be flat out impossible at those depth. My best guess is that they use what would be like a passive sonar, listening at three or more points around the hole. For accuracy, the listen to a pulse signal from the drill. Triangulation is then done by time differential of when the receiver sites hear the pulse.

This is how 911 location works for non-GPS cell phones.

[CosmicCowboy]

Interesting link. Still doesn't say how they locate it. Maybe magnetometers.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2010/06/relief-wells-will-work-experts-say-but-will-take-time-trial-and-error.html

[CosmicCowboy]

Here's a clip from another article that discusses it a little more. Still doesn't explain how the directional sensors work.


The company appears to be making progress. Spokesman Graham MacEwen said Friday that the first relief well has now reached 12,090 feet below the floor of the rig, 5,000 feet from the sea floor.

BP interrupted drilling last week to install a blowout preventer, the safety device that's supposed to seal a well in an emergency, but which failed to do so on the main well.

The second relief well, MacEwen said, is 8,650 feet below the floor of the rig.

The relief wells start about a half mile from the original site and try to meet the original at a diagonal.

Drilling a well involves using a pipe that unfolds section by section like an antenna, only upside down.

With each section, the company drills and then pulls out the pipe and puts in casings to form the sides of the well.

Drills are equipped with directional sensors that do three-dimensional surveys to help workers see where the drill bit is and what it's encountering, while metal detectors help guide it toward the metal in the original well.

Once the drills intersect with the original well, typically just above or below where the problem occurred, cement is pumped in to seal it.

Dave Rensink, president-elect of the American Association of Petroleum Geologists, said that drilling a relief well is not that different from drilling a regular well, except that the target is much smaller.

"The only problem is really finding it, " Rensink said of the original well. "You're trying to intersect the well bore, which is about a foot wide, with another well bore, which is about a foot wide. The probability of finding it the first time ... is probably pretty low."

When the company drills into the well casing but misses the right spot, it will need to set a cement plug.

As BP tries to meet the original well, it will need to have plenty of mud on hand, because when the drill actually connects, the mud from the relief well will have a tendency to get sucked into the lower pressure of the original well, and drillers could lose control of the relief well.

"That clearly is a risk. They need to be very specifically prepared when they penetrate the existing well bore, " Rensink said. "You want to make sure you're not creating a problem in your relief well that's the same problem as on your existing well."

[CosmicCowboy]

Another link that explains the drill positioning a little better...pretty advanced technology. Some pretty smart engineers figured this stuff out.

http://www.energyindustryphotos.com/how_oil_and_gas_wells_are_drille.htm

[boutons_deux]

"pretty smart engineers figured this stuff out"

oilco can afford the best minds, like Wall St can suck up the best talent.

[MannyIsGod]

-- Testing of BP well integrity "detected seep a distance from the well" in the Gulf of Mexico, Ret. Adm. Thad Allen says.

[MannyIsGod]

"can recover 100% of the oil"

one long-time oil guy said BP may not want to recover all oil, since fines are based on qty of oil. If some oil is captured, but some is not, then BP scumbag lawyers can always argue down the amt for the fine.

Capturing all the oil now makes it accurately countable, all the way back to the original blowout.

BP will always have its own interest ($$$) as its overwhelming priority, not the interests of the Gulf or the Gulf shore residents. There no way to be too cynical about these and any corporate assholes, they're all guilty until proven innocent.

I'm going back to this because they now want to turn this test into a full time shut off of the well and this is the only plausible reason I can think they would want to do that.

Its obvious that if there are seeps then this is not the way to go but I think BP will try their ass off to push this through. Instead of simply reopening the vales in the cap they're saying they'd have to remove it which would lead to 3 days of oil spilling into the gulf.

Its such a crock of shit.

[bigzak25]

BP Launches Effort To Control Scientific Research Of Oil Disaster


Foreign oil giant BP is on a spending spree, buying Gulf Coast scientists for its private contractor army. Scientists from Louisiana State University, Mississippi State University and Texas A&M have “signed contracts with BP to work on their behalf in the Natural Resources Damage Assessment (NRDA) process” that determines how much ecological damage the Gulf of Mexico region is suffering from BP’s toxic black tide. The contract, the Mobile Press-Register has learned, “prohibits the scientists from publishing their research, sharing it with other scientists or speaking about the data that they collect for at least the next three years.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/07/16/bp-closed-research/

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BP going into full Exxon fuck-the-victims/save-our-money mode.



The prohibition is ridiculous and I'm sure our President sees the obvious conflicts of interest here. I hope he tears into them and demands full transparency. This is government data, the People's data...not corporate data. No more keeping secrets from the people to serve corporate interests please.

CU0m6Rxm9vU

[boutons_deux]

BP shares fall sharply on new seepage fears

Shares in BP have fallen sharply on the London stock market amid fears oil may again be leaking in the Gulf of Mexico.

At one point in London trading, BP was down 5%, before standing 2.42% behind.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-10682402

[CosmicCowboy]

I'm appalled that they are even considering leaving it capped if they are getting subterranean blowout. It may be showing as a "seep" at the ocean floor but it could be eroding the structural stability of the whole wellhead/blowout preventer etc. The friction of the surrounding seabed against the well bore is what holds everything up. Wash it out on one side and the whole thing could topple over.

[boutons_deux]

"subterranean blowout"

That's probably too strong at this point, but yes, the oil eroding the supporting sand is clearly what Thad is worried about.

[TeyshaBlue]

I generally dont put much truck into conspiracy theories other than for their sheer entertainment values....and I'm not suggesting one now. It aint a conspiracy if it's just one guy lying. This oil well blowout has had all manner of scare stories associated with it but few, if any, have had any credible backing. We may be getting some now.

Read the blog post then click the link and listen to the interview. Kunstler is seen by some as an alarmist but he's never gone completely Chicken Little and he characterizes Simmons as a straight shooter. Simmons has a serious and "clean" rep as an industry expert. You will have to decide for yourselves.

Am I being paranoid or am I being paranoid enough?

http://kunstler.com/blog/2010/07/what-if-hes-right.html

[CosmicCowboy]

While you have your tinfoil hat on you can read this one too...

http://www.helium.com/items/1882339-doomsday-how-bp-gulf-disaster-may-have-triggered-a-world-killing-event

[Sportcamper]

Anyone else think its great that Joe The Plumber designed the cap that stopped the leak…BP had no idea what they were doing...

[boutons_deux]

I don't think the methane concentration would be enough and widespread enough to cause a general conflagration reaching to the shore, incinerating people. But it would make a good disaster movie.

After an initial maybe huge flare, it would be mostly limited to the surface where it was bubbling/spewing up, like the Ixtoc blowout. Billions of tons methane into the upper atmoshpere would make coal burning CO2 look like a mild burp. Even the deniers here would be convinced the resulting global warming was anthropogenic (but they'd never be man enough to admit they've been wrong all along.)

There have been reports of the leaks of oil a mile away from the drilling hole, going back many weeks. If the earth farts billions of oil into the Gulf, then

"Houston (and Miami, and Brownsville), We Have a Problem."

DC, (Dems and certainly not the business-friendly Repugs), will never, can never, stand up to the corps and capitalists raping the people and the earth.

Americans is fucked, and unfuckable. Repent, ye Sinners, The End Is Nigh.

[TeyshaBlue]

I don't think the methane concentration would be enough and widespread enough to cause a general conflagration reaching to the shore, incinerating people. But it would make a good disaster movie.

After an initial maybe huge flare, it would be mostly limited to the surface where it was bubbling/spewing up, like the Ixtoc blowout. Billions of tons methane into the upper atmoshpere would make coal burning CO2 look like a mild burp. Even the deniers here would be convinced the resulting global warming was anthropogenic (but they'd never be man enough to admit they've been wrong all along.)

There have been reports of the leaks of oil a mile away from the drilling hole, going back many weeks. If the earth farts billions of oil into the Gulf, then

"Houston (and Miami, and Brownsville), We Have a Problem."

DC, (Dems and certainly not the business-friendly Repugs), will never, can never, stand up to the corps and capitalists raping the people and the earth.

Americans is fucked, and unfuckable. Repent, ye Sinners, The End Is Nigh.

I don't think it's the risk of explosion, per se, that is the issue with the methane. If true, the mere existence of such a phenomena is pretty alarming.

I posted the Kunstler article because he's got a little cred...he gets excited sometimes, but never into full bore conspiracy-nutville.

[TeyshaBlue]

While you have your tinfoil hat on you can read this one too...

http://www.helium.com/items/1882339-doomsday-how-bp-gulf-disaster-may-have-triggered-a-world-killing-event

Kunstler ain't exactly a member of the tinfoil hat gang.

[CosmicCowboy]

Matt Simmons is also short at least 10,000 shares of BP stock so he has a financial interest in trashing BP.

[TeyshaBlue]

Matt Simmons is also short at least 10,000 shares of BP stock so he has a financial interest in trashing BP.

I saw that too...not sure what to make of it yet.

[boutons_deux]

"Kunstler article because he's got a little cred."

but he says he doesn't know how/if to believe Simmons.

Simmons shorting BP and then spewing BP-caused catastrophes?

come on, rich people never do that.

btw, if you're nice, I'll introduce you to Fabulous Farbrice running Goldman's Abacus fund. :)

[TeyshaBlue]

"Kunstler article because he's got a little cred."

but he says he doesn't know how/if to believe Simmons.

Simmons shorting BP and then spewing BP-caused catastrophes?

come on, rich people never do that.

btw, if you're nice, I'll introduce you to Fabulous Farbrice running Goldman's Abacus fund. :)

:lol:lol

[boutons_deux]

BP weighs ‘static kill’ operation to permanently seal still-leaking well

By Agence France-Presse
Monday, July 19th, 2010 -- 9:58 pm

BP weighs static kill operation to permanently seal still leaking wellBP floated a new option Monday to plug the Gulf of Mexico oil leak and end the economic and environmental disaster sooner than expected.

The "static kill" operation would involve pumping heavy drilling fluids known as mud through the blowout preventer valve system that sits on top of the well and then injecting cement to seal it.

Similar to the "top kill" operation that failed in May, BP believes it will now work because the oil and gas in the runaway well is sealed already by its containment cap so the mud won't need to be forced down so hard"

http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0719/bp-weighs-static-kill-operation-permanently-seal-stillleaking/

[Wild Cobra]

Don't they have to complete one of the bypass wells first?

[CosmicCowboy]

I still think the government/BP are lying to us and know they have subterranean problems with the casing. They want to try to push the oil/methane back down below the leak. TECHNICALLY they might be able to do it but the problem is that if oil/methane has been blowing out the side since last Thursday @ 6000psi it's probably hollowed out a hell of a hole by now. Considering the "seep" as they are calling it is showing up 2 miles from the site thats a lot of void to fill.

[Wild Cobra]

Considering the "seep" as they are calling it is showing up 2 miles from the site thats a lot of void to fill.
If that is the case, would it be safe to assume this is something that would have happened anyway, and BP simply hastened the wound in the earth?

[CosmicCowboy]

If that is the case, would it be safe to assume this is something that would have happened anyway, and BP simply hastened the wound in the earth?

Fluid under pressure will take the path of least resistance. Theoretically if all the pressure was relieving out the top and being pumped to tankers the oil/methane wouldn't be squirting out the side of the casing. I think they are hoping the leak is small enough that they can force mud past the leak and then get a cement plug below it to hold.

[MannyIsGod]

If the seep is 2 miles away then its probably a naturally occurring seep right?

I fucking hate BP.

[CosmicCowboy]

Not necessarily. Remember this shit is under 6000psi. It can shoot out in the rock strata and run for miles till it finds a break to escape up and out.

[boutons_deux]

The relief wells are not required to plug up the main hole once it's capped.

The relief wells are required to pullout the flowing oil/reduce the pressure in the unplugged main hole.

The danger of the "static kill" is that pumping plugging stuff into the hole may pop a leak in the main pipe, and worse, well below the surface.

[CosmicCowboy]

The relief wells are not required to plug up the main hole once it's capped.

The relief wells are required to pullout the flowing oil/reduce the pressure in the unplugged main hole.

The danger of the "static kill" is that pumping plugging stuff into the hole may pop a leak in the main pipe, and worse, well below the surface.

You are wrong. The relief wells are to plug the existing well at the bottom. They will drill into the side of the casing and then inject mud/cement to plug it.

[Wild Cobra]

You are wrong. The relief wells are to plug the existing well at the bottom. They will drill into the side of the casing and then inject mud/cement to plug it.
From my understanding of physics, that makes perfect sense.

[TDMVPDPOY]

u guys read this yet?

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/bp-to-sell-assets-for-806bn/story-e6frf7ko-1225894829955


BP PLC says it is selling several major assets to Apache Corp for $US7 billion ($8.06 billion) to help pay the costs from the Gulf of Mexico oil spill.

The proceeds will go towards a $US20 billion ($23.04 billion) fund to help pay cleanup costs and damages from the spill.

BP said in June that it planned to shed as much as $US10 billion ($11.52 billion) in assets over the next 12 months.

The sale doesn't include BP's stake in Prudhoe Bay, countering published reports that said a deal for the Alaska field was in the works.

lol why not declare bankrupt :D

[CosmicCowboy]

Wow. is there a news blackout or something? The ONLY article I could find was about it being hard for the offshore skimmers to find anything to skim...

What happened with the other leak that was a couple of miles from the BP site...last I heard on the news last night was the Government spokesman saying "we decided that leak was from ANOTHER well" and nobody even questioned him on it...WTF? We've got oil /gas leaking through the sea floor and they won't talk about it? WTF is going on?

I'm really not into conspiracy theories normally but something stinks about this one...

[Wild Cobra]

Yep, looks like the WH doesn't have this disaster to milk any longer...

[ChumpDumper]

Wow. is there a news blackout or something? The ONLY article I could find was about it being hard for the offshore skimmers to find anything to skim...

What happened with the other leak that was a couple of miles from the BP site...last I heard on the news last night was the Government spokesman saying "we decided that leak was from ANOTHER well" and nobody even questioned him on it...WTF? We've got oil /gas leaking through the sea floor and they won't talk about it? WTF is going on?

I'm really not into conspiracy theories normally but something stinks about this one...Who knows if that place was seeping before?

Is the pressure still holding?

[MannyIsGod]

You are wrong. The relief wells are to plug the existing well at the bottom. They will drill into the side of the casing and then inject mud/cement to plug it.

They won't have to do this if the static kill works.

[LnGrrrR]

Yep, looks like the WH doesn't have this disaster to milk any longer...

Because if there's one thing the WH wanted, it's keeping an ecological disaster going as long as possible...

[Ignignokt]

Because if there's one thing the WH wanted, it's keeping an ecological disaster going as long as possible...

Seems stupid in hindsight right? So why try to milk political capital out of the disaster by demonizing the oil industry as a whole and trying to preach cap n trade?

[Winehole23]

Yep, looks like the WH doesn't have this disaster to milk any longer...You think this is over? :depressed

[Wild Cobra]

Because if there's one thing the WH wanted, it's keeping an ecological disaster going as long as possible...
As Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel once said, "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste."

[Wild Cobra]

Seems stupid in hindsight right? So why try to milk political capital out of the disaster by demonizing the oil industry as a whole and trying to preach cap n trade?
As Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel once said, "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste."

[Wild Cobra]

You think this is over? :depressed
Just making fun of Rahm Emanuel. I'll bet he hopes it's not over.

[Winehole23]

How droll. (Ahem.)

[boutons_deux]

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT03/refresh/AL0310W5_NL+gif/145913W5_NL_sm.gif

[TeyshaBlue]

Shit, meet fan.

[Wild Cobra]

Shit, meet fan.
I doubt it.

Max sustained winds of 35...

[TeyshaBlue]

I doubt it.

Max sustained winds of 35...

It's 3 days away and lots of warm water between.

[boutons_deux]

Come on, WC, you know Magic Negro is rooting for this storm to go Level 5 hurricane, so he can keep milking the oil spill news cycle.

[MannyIsGod]

Come on, WC, you know Magic Negro is rooting for this storm to go Level 5 hurricane, so he can keep milking the oil spill news cycle.

:lol

[boutons_deux]

Researchers Confirm Subsea Gulf Oil Plumes Are From BP Well

http://www.truth-out.org/researchers-confirm-subsea-gulf-oil-plumes-are-from-bp-well61662?print

[TE]

These idiots took forever to fix this situation. No sense in even announcing that such thing has been fixed now with all the destruction already perforated.

[CosmicCowboy]

Researchers Confirm Subsea Gulf Oil Plumes Are From BP Well

http://www.truth-out.org/researchers-confirm-subsea-gulf-oil-plumes-are-from-bp-well61662?print

Hell we knew it was there.

At least I did.

The real test will come this fall winter when the water temperatures at the surface drop and the denser cold water starts sinking and displacing the water below it. Will those plumes surface then?

[boutons_deux]

I don't think the Gulf surface water ever gets colder, denser, even in Jan/Feb, than the always cold bottom water.

[boutons_deux]

BP fails to put money in promised escrow account.

"BP PLC has failed to deposit any money into the $20 billion fund it promised to create"

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/07/24/bp-fails-to-put-money-in-promised-escrow-account/

BP lawyers are probably saying there's no legal basis for being "shaken down". BigOil is probaby priming Fox and the rest of the hate media megaphone to spew their lies and defend poor little, victimized white BP being screwed by the dangerous Magic Negro.

[Wild Cobra]

Come on, WC, you know Magic Negro is rooting for this storm to go Level 5 hurricane, so he can keep milking the oil spill news cycle.

Yes I know. He could then also say the bush administration didn't rebuild the levies right.

[boutons_deux]

"didn't rebuild the levies right"

the domestic incompetence and devastation of the Army Corps of Engineers spans decades.