The Look of the Current Spurs' Roster

[ceperez]

Looks like there are 14 players with a slot in the Spurs roster.

Point Guards
Parker - One man fast break.
Hill - Elongated Man
Temple

Shooting Guards
Ginobili - Batman
Anderson - Big 12 Player of the Year
Hairston

Small Forward
RJ - Re-coached by Pop over the Summer
Gee

Power Forward
Duncan - Old Fundamental
Bonner - Spread 4.
Blair - The Beast.

Center
Splitter - Euroleague MVP
McDyess - Is He Really a Center?

The 14th player looks like Gary Neal (20 points in a single half in Summer league, 6 3-pointers).

Let's hope that Bogans and Mason aren't re-signed!

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Looks like there are 14 players with a slot in the Spurs roster.

Point Guards
Parker - One man fast break.
Hill - Elongated Man
Temple

Shooting Guards
Ginobili - Batman
Anderson - Big 12 Player of the Year
Hairston

Small Forward
RJ - Re-coached by Pop over the Summer
Gee

Power Forward
Duncan - Old Fundamental
Bonner - Spread 4.
Blair - The Beast.

Center
Splitter - Euroleague MVP
McDyess - Is He Really a Center?

The 14th player looks like Gary Neal (20 points in a single half in Summer league, 6 3-pointers).

Let's hope that Bogans and Mason aren't re-signed!

:lmao:lmao:lmao

[ducks]

rj is not signed

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

If the Spurs have Fucking Hairston and Gee in thier regular rotation San Antonio is Doomed.

[ceperez]

I think Morrison will get an offer, the longer RJ waits to sign the more I think hes heading elsewhere....Clips perhaps.

That really would be a bad situation for the Spurs. Don't think Gee, Hariston or even Morrison at the starting SF is going to cut the mustard.

[ceperez]

rj is not signed

I know. I'm assuming he will.

Also Hairston, Gee, Temple don't have guaranteed contracts. I'm assuming the Spurs don't waive them.

However, this is the current consensus as to what the Spurs roster looks like.

[ElNono]

I believe Temple is eligible for the Toros and he will stay there unless the Spurs need him because of an injury or something like that. I like him, but I don't think there will be minutes for him behind Tony and Hill, so using up a roster spot for him doesn't make much sense.

[SenorSpur]

I believe Temple is eligible for the Toros and he will stay there unless the Spurs need him because of an injury or something like that. I like him, but I don't think there will be minutes for him behind Tony and Hill, so using up a roster spot for him doesn't make much sense.

On the contrary. Pop loves the fact that the guy is 6'6", is versatile - meaning he can play and defend multiple positions. However, they like his size and moxie at the PG position. Besides, they absolutely must hedge themselves against injury. I see no reason that he wouldn't make the team.

Besides all that, Pop has already proclaimed him as his "new favorite player".

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Dont think Hairston makes the roster

Of course he does, the Spurs wouldn't have him miss Summer League unless they had a good feeling about his roster chances.

[jjktkk]

On the contrary. Pop loves the fact that the guy is 6'6", is versatile - meaning he can play and defend multiple positions. However, they like his size and moxie at the PG position. Besides, they absolutely must hedge themselves against injury. I see no reason that he wouldn't make the team.

Besides all that, Pop has already proclaimed him as his "new favorite player".

+1. If Temple continues to improve this season, The Spurs could be more inclined to move Parker, if they felt that Hill and Temple could man the pg position.

[The Btown Spur]

I would rather have Gee than Morrison!

[jason1301]

11 posts till we saw some Trade TP talk :downspin:


I never thought I would say this, but we want RJ back, he is NOT going to play any worse, plus we don't really have that many other options.

[barbacoataco]

There is the thought that Hairston will be in the rotation next year floating around, and also some opinions that he doesn't even make the team. Add that to the fact that we don't know if RJ will sign, and the SF position is ultra-murky.

[toki9]

Shooting Guards
Ginobili - Batman


You mean BatMANUel...

[elemento]

Both Temple and Hairston are gonna make the roster for next season

PG/SG: Parker/Hill/Temple/Manu/Anderson
SF: RJ/Hairston
PF/C: Duncan/Dice/Blair/Splitter/Bonner

It's gonna be it guys. It's not that hard to predict that

[chazley]

If Hairston gets rotation minutes next year, I might cry.

[Em-City]

Both Temple and Hairston are gonna make the roster for next season

PG/SG: Parker/Hill/Temple/Manu/Anderson
SF: RJ/Hairston
PF/C: Duncan/Dice/Blair/Splitter/Bonner

It's gonna be it guys. It's not that hard to predict that



basically........


..and maybe we get another SF, and if not we take Gee for a lack of someone better.

[Interrohater]

What's with all of the Hairston hate on here lately? This message board was lighting up last year to get him extended minutes and even make him the starter. I think as time has gone by we've forgotten how much promise he's shown as a player, mostly because he only played in garbage time. He's a tenacious defender with a very quick first step and a pretty nice shot, in addition to being very young in his NBA career. He's still got loads of potential and IMHO he's only going to get better defensively.

It's common knowledge around the Spurs fandom that we're looking for a perimeter stopper, there's no way that the Spurs organization isn't looking for the same thing. You can bet on the fact that there's at least a sliver of hope in the FO that Hairston can be that guy.

I'm not saying that he's heads and shoulders above a good FA signing, but to hate on the team if he's part of th regular rotation is kind of ridiculous. I think that we'll see in the preseason that this kid is making strides as a great role player that can become part of the nucleus of a winning team.

[Kuestmaster]

There are 144 to be distributed between PG/SG/SF, I think things will go like this:
TP: 35
Hill: 38
Manu: 30
RJ (if signs): 32
There are 9 minutes left, and I think it will be Anderson who'll be on the floor during that time. So there are no more time for hairston/temple, only in case of emergency. Don't be so freaked out ;)

[Kuestmaster]

Btw I'm assuming we won't see a lot of small ball next year with a frountcourt of Duncan/Splitter/Blair/Dyess/Bonner

[Muser]

Temple should be a lock to be backup PG. He's already proven himself on an NBA level.

[lurker23]

There are 144 to be distributed between PG/SG/SF, I think things will go like this:
TP: 35
Hill: 38
Manu: 30
RJ (if signs): 32
There are 9 minutes left, and I think it will be Anderson who'll be on the floor during that time. So there are no more time for hairston/temple, only in case of emergency. Don't be so freaked out ;)

I think you're over-estimating everyone a little bit; those kind of minutes are possible in playoff games, but I doubt the players will average those throughout an 82 game regular season. I think these are a little more realistic:

TP: 33 (with exception of last year when injuries limited him, mpg for Tony has been between 32.5 and 34.2 since 2002)

Hill: 30 (about 1 minute more than last year; only averaged more when Tony was out)

Manu: 28 (has averaged between 26.8 and 31.1 since 2003, expect Pop to stay on low end of that)

RJ: 31 (averaged 31 last year; he may even lose a couple minutes now that Pop doesn't have his $14+ mil contract hanging over his head)


So that leaves us with about 22 minutes (and that's when everyone is healthy). This is probably one of the main reasons the Spurs were looking at veteran 2/3s, and if they sign one, expect most of these minutes to go to that player, at least at first. In lieu of a veteran, Spurs could also split those 22 minutes between Temple/Hairston/Anderson/Gee, depending on which one is hot and/or in favor at any given time.

[Leonard Curse]

i would love to see hairston out there w/ some heavy minutes in the begin/season to see what hes really got. I think hell do a great job! and im not worried about it too much it seems pop & Rc have some strange plan, as usual

[Leonard Curse]

do you guys think pop will put anderson at the SF spot?? i kinda get that feeling

[TJastal]

Just my 2 cents

I wouldn't be crushed if RJ didn't return and every day his signature isn't on the dotted line increases the chance he won't be back. With Parker returning to his old starter role (I'm assuming) and back to logging 30-35 minutes bringing RJ back just doesn't make any sense, unless he's coming off the bench..., and quite honestly with Anderson, Gee, & Hairston available the spurs don't need his bench services. Parker + RJ was a terrible combination as last year proved and I don't look forward to sequel.

What I'd like to see is the spurs go after Matt Barnes who is a FA and would solve the starting 3 problem plus bring a ton of moxie to this team. Last I heard the cavs are talking with him, and I'm positive if the spurs gave him a call he'd be in SA in a heartbeat. The guy would give 20-25 minutes of hard-nosed defense against the other teams best wing, plus 6-7 boards, a steal, a block, and 10-12 points per night. Exactly what the spurs need in that starting lineup.

[ChumpDumper]

I like Barnes, but those projected numbers are too high.

[TJastal]

If I had my way, I'd sign Matt Barnes and call it an off season. My lineups would be:

C Duncan | Splitter
PF McDyess | Blair | Bonner
SF Barnes | Hairston | Gee
SG Ginobili | Anderson | Neal
PG Parker | Hill | Temple

Basically Hairston & Gee would be jousting for minutes as the backup 3 and Temple, Neal, and Anderson would be in competition for a backup position.

[TJastal]

I like Barnes, but those projected numbers are too high.

Ok ...... got a little carried away there. I checked his stats last year and a more accurate projection: 8pts in a variety of ways (put backs, drives to the rim, 3pters, fast break dunks, etc), 5 reb, occasional steal/block, & hard nosed defense against the opposing teams' best wing.

Sound better?

[TJastal]

As an aside, I have a feeling Barnes would fair better playing mainly in the western conference, his numbers were even better in '08 when he played in Phoenix. He just doesn't seem like an eastern conference type of player.

C'mon Pop, bring him back where he belongs! :D

[SpursChampsIII]

If Temple is 6'6, then Gee is 6'8...at least that is what it looks like when they stand next to each other. I would guess that Temple is closer to 6'4 than 6'6

[Supergirl]

I think either Gee or Hairston will make the roster, but probably one of 'em will not, but may get sent to the Toros.

[Obstructed_View]

I think either Gee or Hairston will make the roster, but probably one of 'em will not, but may get sent to the Toros.

I think Hairston's out of D league eligibility.

[ohmwrecker]

Matt Barnes isn't going to sign here. He has made it pretty clear he looking for more money than the Spurs have. I don't understand why anyone wants him anyway. He is an overrated defender, a streaky (to put it kindly) shooter and a total shithead.
RC has already stated that they are looking to bring Jefferson back. If his options are the Spurs, Clippers and Cavaliers for similar money . . . he's probably coming back.
If they sign anyone it will be a shooter. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see Morrison get the call at this point.

[ceperez]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see Morrison get the call at this point.

That would be a very bad development.

[rascal]

Matt Barnes isn't going to sign here. He has made it pretty clear he looking for more money than the Spurs have. I don't understand why anyone wants him anyway. He is an overrated defender, a streaky (to put it kindly) shooter and a total shithead.
RC has already stated that they are looking to bring Jefferson back. If his options are the Spurs, Clippers and Cavaliers for similar money . . . he's probably coming back.
If they sign anyone it will be a shooter. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see Morrison get the call at this point.

Morrison stinks. Jefferson will likely not be coming back. Why would he want to play again for the Spurs when he can rejuvenate his career elsewhere? He is a bad fit the way they want to use him.

[yavozerb]

Morrison stinks. Jefferson will likely not be coming back. Why would he want to play again for the Spurs when he can rejuvenate his career elsewhere? He is a bad fit the way they want to use him.

Because the spurs will probably the offer the highest contract..Not many teams still out there that can outbid the spurs for the likes of RJ..

[rascal]

Because the spurs will probably the offer the highest contract..Not many teams still out there that can outbid the spurs for the likes of RJ..

Jefferson wants out thats why he opted out. And the spurs are not in any hurry to outbid for Jefferson. I don't see jefferson coming back to the Spurs.

He would be willing to take less money now to revive his career elsewhere because in the long run he can make more if he was on another team putting up better numbers than if he stays with the spurs.

[ceperez]

Jefferson wants out thats why he opted out. And the spurs are not in any hurry to outbid for Jefferson. I don't see jefferson coming back to the Spurs.

He would be willing to take less money now to revive his career elsewhere because in the long run he can make more if he was on another team putting up better numbers than if he stays with the spurs.

A game of chicken being played here.

Spurs waiting for an offer for Jefferson that they plan on matching.

Jefferson hoping that the offer gets him more than the $15m he declined.

Unfortunately, this gamesmanship is keeping the Spurs from bidding for other FA.

[ElNono]

Jefferson wants out thats why he opted out. And the spurs are not in any hurry to outbid for Jefferson. I don't see jefferson coming back to the Spurs.

He would be willing to take less money now to revive his career elsewhere because in the long run he can make more if he was on another team putting up better numbers than if he stays with the spurs.

I believe some of that is in play. At the same time, RJ is not a young pup, and this could easily be his last contract. While there's some pride involved, I'm not sure he's got that much wiggle room, especially with the uncertainty of the upcoming CBA.

[TJastal]

Jefferson wants out thats why he opted out. And the spurs are not in any hurry to outbid for Jefferson. I don't see jefferson coming back to the Spurs.

He would be willing to take less money now to revive his career elsewhere because in the long run he can make more if he was on another team putting up better numbers than if he stays with the spurs.

Quit making sense, already.

[TJastal]

A game of chicken being played here.

Spurs waiting for an offer for Jefferson that they plan on matching.

Jefferson hoping that the offer gets him more than the $15m he declined.

Unfortunately, this gamesmanship is keeping the Spurs from bidding for other FA.

I would call it anything but a sure thing that they "plan" on matching. At least I would hope so.

[Obstructed_View]

Jefferson wants out thats why he opted out. And the spurs are not in any hurry to outbid for Jefferson. I don't see jefferson coming back to the Spurs.

He would be willing to take less money now to revive his career elsewhere because in the long run he can make more if he was on another team putting up better numbers than if he stays with the spurs.

That's possible. He also may have thought that with all the teams freeing up cap space that he could get in on some of that money. But he's more likely to go to a bad team where he can get more shots and try to turn that into one last contract than he is to be lowballed by the Spurs, especially if they're going to try to get multiple years out of it.

[TJastal]

That's possible. He also may have thought that with all the teams freeing up cap space that he could get in on some of that money. But he's more likely to go to a bad team where he can get more shots and try to turn that into one last contract than he is to be lowballed by the Spurs, especially if they're going to try to get multiple years out of it.

Exactly. I see him ending up in NJ or NY at this point. And this game of chicken isn't gonna last too much longer. I get the feeling Matt Barnes might be getting a call from Pop fairly soonish.

[ohmwrecker]

You people just aren't paying attention to the facts.

[Obstructed_View]

You people just aren't paying attention to the facts.

You're welcome to enlighten us.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

If the Spurs have Fucking Hairston and Gee in thier regular rotation San Antonio is Doomed.

Both of them in the regualr rotation would be a problem, but one of them playing 15-20 minutes a night would be great. How else do you expect them to develop?


On the contrary. Pop loves the fact that the guy is 6'6", is versatile - meaning he can play and defend multiple positions. However, they like his size and moxie at the PG position. Besides, they absolutely must hedge themselves against injury. I see no reason that he wouldn't make the team.

Besides all that, Pop has already proclaimed him as his "new favorite player".


Temple should be a lock to be backup PG. He's already proven himself on an NBA level.

Yup, we'll see some Temple next year, and given the way he played late last year I'm looking forward to it! :)


If Hairston gets rotation minutes next year, I might cry.

:rolleyes

See below.


What's with all of the Hairston hate on here lately? This message board was lighting up last year to get him extended minutes and even make him the starter. I think as time has gone by we've forgotten how much promise he's shown as a player, mostly because he only played in garbage time. He's a tenacious defender with a very quick first step and a pretty nice shot, in addition to being very young in his NBA career. He's still got loads of potential and IMHO he's only going to get better defensively.

It's common knowledge around the Spurs fandom that we're looking for a perimeter stopper, there's no way that the Spurs organization isn't looking for the same thing. You can bet on the fact that there's at least a sliver of hope in the FO that Hairston can be that guy.

I'm not saying that he's heads and shoulders above a good FA signing, but to hate on the team if he's part of th regular rotation is kind of ridiculous. I think that we'll see in the preseason that this kid is making strides as a great role player that can become part of the nucleus of a winning team.

[8FOR!3]

To be honest, I wouldn't mind Morrison to be a rotation player if Richard Jefferson resigns. He can shoot the ball and that's what we need once we have a starter.

C Splitter | McDyess
PF Duncan | Blair | Bonner
SF Jefferson | Morrison
SG Ginobili | Anderson | Neal
PG Parker | Hill

That's an offseason you can't complain about. A team with the potential to be a contender. But you are going to need a little help from the players themselves. Expectations are somewhat high for Splitter. McDyess can actually take on less of a role and go into full clutch jump shot think Horry mode. We need an improvement from Blair with his jump shot but I think that he's worked on it with England over the summer am I right? And Jefferson needs to gel in with the team better, but I think now that he's used to us and knows the system, he'll be a better player. All we need for Morrison is to hit some shots and not be a complete liability on defense and then he'll be an upgrade over Bogans. Ginobili's got to be consistent this year and stay healthy, but last year he impressed me, hell of a player. The guy is an all star. James Anderson is up in the air, he doesn't have the expectations Splitter does, but I think he has ability to impress and raise some eyebrows when the season starts. Neal might not be as good, but could even be an upgrade over Garrett Temple and allow George Hill to go into full PG mode. Hill just needs to continue to improve his shot and work on his ball handling, quickness, and overall point abilities. But I'm confident he's done that. All we need from TP is to stay healhty. Listen sons, I foresee one of these in our near future (this year.)

:lobt2:


:toast??

[ohmwrecker]

You're welcome to enlighten us.

I already mentioned this in another thread, but:

Fact 1: Pop has been working with RJ already this off season. Why would he bother with a player who is going to leave via free agency?

Fact 2: RJ is a free agent. If the Spurs believed there was someone better available why haven't they replaced Jefferson? The Spurs are free to sever ties with Jefferson, but have yet to do it.

Fact 3: RC stated (during a televised summer league interview with Joel Myers) that the Spurs are working toward re-signing RJ.

I don't know how much clearer it can be. Like it, or not.

[lurker23]

A game of chicken being played here.

Spurs waiting for an offer for Jefferson that they plan on matching.

Jefferson hoping that the offer gets him more than the $15m he declined.

Unfortunately, this gamesmanship is keeping the Spurs from bidding for other FA.

I agree with the first three lines of this post (though if the offer is too high, I'd expect a sign and trade before I'd expect the Spurs to go into the luxury tax (again) for Richard Jefferson).

On the last line, while I agree that the uncertainty may be stopping the Spurs from putting official offers on the table, which FA could they have gotten if they had been free to do so? To my recollection, pretty much every free agent they might have been interested in has gotten a larger contract than the Spurs could offer with their remaining MLE.

[ceperez]

On the last line, while I agree that the uncertainty may be stopping the Spurs from putting official offers on the table, which FA could they have gotten if they had been free to do so? To my recollection, pretty much every free agent they might have been interested in has gotten a larger contract than the Spurs could offer with their remaining MLE.

Though if the Spurs can know for certain that they aren't signing RJ, then they have the opportunity for a S&T and therefore a lot more flexibility.

[Obstructed_View]

Fact 1: Pop has been working with RJ already this off season. Why would he bother with a player who is going to leave via free agency?
I'm fairly certain that was debunked. See RJ's comments from that camp thing where he was out of shape. If that were true, he'd already have been locked up. Everything about RJ's opting out screams of a last-minute decision, and probably not a well thought out one.


Fact 2: RJ is a free agent. If the Spurs believed there was someone better available why haven't they replaced Jefferson? The Spurs are free to sever ties with Jefferson, but have yet to do it.
The proper question is: If the Spurs are so sure RJ is their guy, why isn't he on the team?

The Spurs can't put a gun to a free agent's head and make him sign with the team. They certainly don't have overwhelming money to throw at free agents, so the fact that they've failed to sign someone is NOT evidence that they haven't been trying to sign someone.

Every day that RJ's phone doesn't ring, his price goes down. The Spurs would have been stupid to "sever ties" with him. It's pretty clear that they've been actively trying to replace him, they just haven't had much success and he's going to be their fall-back position until he's gone. If nothing else it's probably wise to keep relations warm so they can potentially work a sign and trade if he decides to go somewhere else.


Fact 3: RC stated (during a televised summer league interview with Joel Myers) that the Spurs are working toward re-signing RJ.
See "fall-back" position above. I certainly don't think RC would be doing the process any favors if he said that the Spurs were waiting for RJ's value to drop. No matter what the truth is, do you think he'd have answered that question any differently?

If the Spurs really really want to sign RJ and he's not on the team, it means he's looking elsewhere so it would be smart for the Spurs to do the same. If RJ really really wants to be a Spur and he's not on the team, it means the Spurs are looking for other options or don't value him as highly as you think.

Bottom line: The Spurs know exactly how much salary is available. RJ knows exactly how much salary is available. The fact that he's not signed means that RJ is looking for more money somewhere or that the Spurs don't think he's a priority.

[ceperez]

They certainly don't have overwhelming money to throw at free agents, so the fact that they've failed to sign someone is NOT evidence that they haven't been trying to sign someone.


Dude, it isn't that complicated... the Spurs told RJ to go out into the market and return with an offer from another team and the Spurs will match it.

I believe there's a lot of trust built up between the Spurs and RJ that there's a clear cut agreement that he's coming back and the price is determined by the market.

Unfortunately for RJ is that market isn't telling him how much he's worth!

[Obstructed_View]

Dude, it isn't that complicated... the Spurs told RJ to go out into the market and return with an offer from another team and the Spurs will match it.

Oh, really? That's great. Could you link the news article that says that please?

[ceperez]

Oh, really? That's great. Could you link the news article that says that please?

No I don't have a news link. It is just that my explanation is so much simpler than yours.

"Go get me another offer and I'll match it". Can it be simpler than this?

[rascal]

I already mentioned this in another thread, but:

Fact 1: Pop has been working with RJ already this off season. Why would he bother with a player who is going to leave via free agency?

Fact 2: RJ is a free agent. If the Spurs believed there was someone better available why haven't they replaced Jefferson? The Spurs are free to sever ties with Jefferson, but have yet to do it.

Fact 3: RC stated (during a televised summer league interview with Joel Myers) that the Spurs are working toward re-signing RJ.

I don't know how much clearer it can be. Like it, or not.

fact 1: The spurs are not sure what will happen with the Jefferson situation so they have to be prepared if he comes back. It is not set in stone that he is coming back. Many factors will consider the final decision like what offer RJ gets and if the spurs want to match it and who else the spurs could get at SF will be the determining factors on if RJ comes back. Also a future sign and trade could be in the works.


Fact 2: The spurs haven't done anything yet regarding a SF because they haven't been able to get a player they like. But I doubt if they haven't been making calls. Jefferson is the fall back option if there is nothing left that they like. As the time goes on and less options are available the more likely the spurs fall back to Jefferson.


Fact 3: That could just be PR. I dont read much into that statement. Another direction can be decided on if they see a better option.

[rascal]

I'm fairly certain that was debunked. See RJ's comments from that camp thing where he was out of shape. If that were true, he'd already have been locked up. Everything about RJ's opting out screams of a last-minute decision, and probably not a well thought out one.


The proper question is: If the Spurs are so sure RJ is their guy, why isn't he on the team?

The Spurs can't put a gun to a free agent's head and make him sign with the team. They certainly don't have overwhelming money to throw at free agents, so the fact that they've failed to sign someone is NOT evidence that they haven't been trying to sign someone.

Every day that RJ's phone doesn't ring, his price goes down. The Spurs would have been stupid to "sever ties" with him. It's pretty clear that they've been actively trying to replace him, they just haven't had much success and he's going to be their fall-back position until he's gone. If nothing else it's probably wise to keep relations warm so they can potentially work a sign and trade if he decides to go somewhere else.


See "fall-back" position above. I certainly don't think RC would be doing the process any favors if he said that the Spurs were waiting for RJ's value to drop. No matter what the truth is, do you think he'd have answered that question any differently?

If the Spurs really really want to sign RJ and he's not on the team, it means he's looking elsewhere so it would be smart for the Spurs to do the same. If RJ really really wants to be a Spur and he's not on the team, it means the Spurs are looking for other options or don't value him as highly as you think.

Bottom line: The Spurs know exactly how much salary is available. RJ knows exactly how much salary is available. The fact that he's not signed means that RJ is looking for more money somewhere or that the Spurs don't think he's a priority.

Good post. I agree. Contrary to recent rumors I still do not see jefferson on the team. Good chance for a sign and trade to work out where the spurs add a starting quality SF.

What teams can be considered good options for RJ to land on and the spurs getting a SF back?

[Sausage]

STEIN_LINE_HQ

Heard this (a la @Buster_ESPN): Spurs and Richard Jefferson will be officially reunited soon

[ohmwrecker]

fact 1: The spurs are not sure what will happen with the Jefferson situation so they have to be prepared if he comes back. It is not set in stone that he is coming back. Many factors will consider the final decision like what offer RJ gets and if the spurs want to match it and who else the spurs could get at SF will be the determining factors on if RJ comes back. Also a future sign and trade could be in the works.


Fact 2: The spurs haven't done anything yet regarding a SF because they haven't been able to get a player they like. But I doubt if they haven't been making calls. Jefferson is the fall back option if there is nothing left that they like. As the time goes on and less options are available the more likely the spurs fall back to Jefferson.


Fact 3: That could just be PR. I dont read much into that statement. Another direction can be decided on if they see a better option.


These are not facts, they are your opinions.

[ceperez]

Oh, really? That's great. Could you link the news article that says that please?

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/Jefferson_will_re-sign_Tuesday_with_Spurs_98860444.html Well, well, happy now?

"Eley has stressed that Jefferson’s decision did not mean he wanted to change teams, saying Jefferson preferred to remain in San Antonio if the club would give him a deal that provided the long-term security he sought."

[ohmwrecker]

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/Jefferson_will_re-sign_Tuesday_with_Spurs_98860444.html Well, well, happy now?

"Eley has stressed that Jefferson’s decision did not mean he wanted to change teams, saying Jefferson preferred to remain in San Antonio if the club would give him a deal that provided the long-term security he sought."

I don't see how that backs up what you claimed at all.

[Obstructed_View]

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/Jefferson_will_re-sign_Tuesday_with_Spurs_98860444.html Well, well, happy now?

"Eley has stressed that Jefferson’s decision did not mean he wanted to change teams, saying Jefferson preferred to remain in San Antonio if the club would give him a deal that provided the long-term security he sought."

Three things:

1. That article doesn't say that the Spurs told RJ to go out and get an offer that they would match. As of this moment, there are no reports that RJ has gotten another offer and the Spurs aren't matching anything.

2. This article was posted after I asked you to post the link.

3. You're an idiot.

[ceperez]

Three things:
2. This article was posted after I asked you to post the link.


well duh! does time travel exist?

i can't imagine me answering your question before you ask.

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well duh! does time travel exist?

i can't imagine me answering your question before you ask.

So you admit that you just made it up and stated it as though it were a fact even before that article that fails to confirm it was posted.

Yeah, I guess I'll continue to say it:

You're an idiot.

[ceperez]

So you admit that you just made it up and stated it as though it were a fact even before that article that fails to confirm it was posted.


Well there you go again ignoring the fact that I was dead on right about the RJ situation.

He was signed, my instincts were correct about it and yours was not.

Admit it, you're dumber than.the guy you keep calling an idiot.

I got it now, you just have a bad habit of sounding complicated to appear smart. Also you call people idiots just to make it appear that you are not. Problem with that tactic is that it makes you look like the bigger idiot. The joke is on you bub!!! Hahaha!

[toki9]

Well there you go again ignoring the fact that I was dead on right about the RJ situation.

He was signed, my instincts were correct about it and yours was not.

Admit it, you're dumber than.the guy you keep calling an idiot.

I got it now, you just have a bad habit of sounding complicated to appear smart. Also you call people idiots just to make it appear that you are not. Problem with that tactic is that it makes you look like the bigger idiot. The joke is on you bub!!! Hahaha!

Hold on. Your "instincts were correct"? Meaning that it was a pure speculation on your part, albeit one ruled by your instinct?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Maybe we should have a poll on the most divisive Spurs player of the last 10 years.

RJ would be up there, I think. :lmao

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Well there you go again ignoring the fact that I was dead on right about the RJ situation.

He was signed, my instincts were correct about it and yours was not.

Admit it, you're dumber than.the guy you keep calling an idiot.

I got it now, you just have a bad habit of sounding complicated to appear smart. Also you call people idiots just to make it appear that you are not. Problem with that tactic is that it makes you look like the bigger idiot. The joke is on you bub!!! Hahaha!

So you were guessing and stated it as though it were a confirmed fact.

Idiot.

[mountainballer]

ceperez is rally pushing hard for the KBP trophy. just did not yet pick a fake nationality.

[will_spurs]

just did not yet pick a fake nationality.

Should he go for Austrian nationality? :rollin

[ceperez]

So you were guessing and stated it as though it were a confirmed fact.



Dude, every read "Blink" by Malcolm Gladwell?

Or maybe I give you too much credit, I'm not sure you even read books.

[ceperez]

Looks like there are 14 players with a slot in the Spurs roster.

Point Guards
Parker - One man fast break.
Hill - Elongated Man
Temple

Shooting Guards
Ginobili - Batman
Anderson - Big 12 Player of the Year
Hairston

Small Forward
RJ - Re-coached by Pop over the Summer
Gee

Power Forward
Duncan - Old Fundamental
Bonner - Spread 4.
Blair - The Beast.

Center
Splitter - Euroleague MVP
McDyess - Is He Really a Center?

The 14th player looks like Gary Neal (20 points in a single half in Summer league, 6 3-pointers).

Let's hope that Bogans and Mason aren't re-signed!

With the RJ signing, the list, true to form, continues to remain correct.

Which still doesn't allow much room for a FA. Signing a SF FA will mean shared playing time for possibly both Gee, Hairston or even Anderson. For what its worth, I don't think that would help the team's chemistry.

[mountainballer]

Should he go for Austrian nationality? :rollin

:downspin: I wonder what players he could overhype then. this is a very very dry country when it comes to basketball.

[coyotes_geek]

With the RJ signing, the list, true to form, continues to remain correct.

You are awesome. It's not just anybody that can take a list of the guys the Spurs have under contract and use that as a prediction of who will be on the roster this year.

[ceperez]

You are awesome. It's not just anybody that can take a list of the guys the Spurs have under contract and use that as a prediction of who will be on the roster this year.

No, but 50% of Spurstalk members were either in doubt of RJ signing or wanted him out.

[ceperez]

You are awesome. It's not just anybody that can take a list of the guys the Spurs have under contract and use that as a prediction of who will be on the roster this year.

2 for 2, Neal gets signed. Roster complete at 14 players. Neal wasn't on contract when I created this list.

What say you now?

[admiralsnackbar]

2 for 2, Neal gets signed. Roster complete at 14 players. Neal wasn't on contract when I created this list.

What say you now?

If you'd done this prior to the SL you might have bragging rights, but given you jumped on the Neal bandwagon at the same time as all SL-watchers did just means you... jumped on a bandwagon. The only difference is none of them felt the need to express their intuition of the team lineup as fact while you did. Good job, Carnac. :toast

[Anonymous Cowherd]

with the current group we can probably get under the luxury tax.

while we have our LLE / rest of MLE, that would put us over.


I'd like us to sign up Ryan Richards to give a bit more depth for bigs, then stash him for the Toros along with Gee. Other than that, it's looking good to me.

[Supergirl]

Here's what I've got so far:

PF/C:
Tim Duncan
DeJuan Blair
Antonio MyDyess
Tiago Splitter
Matt Bonner

Guards:
Tony Parker
Manu Ginobili
George Hill
Garrett Temple
James Anderson
Gary Neal (is he a guard or a small forward?)

Small forward:
Richard Jefferson
Hairston/Gee - are they both actually under a guaranteed contract?


If Hairston and Gee are both guaranteed, that brings us to 14. We could go into the season with only 13 - Pop's done it before - but we still seem thin at SF since everyone but RJ is a rookie or sophomore. But then again, the market's pretty thin for SF. At this point, Matt Barnes or someone like that is a bigger priority than Shaq, even for vet minimum.

[Solid D]

ceperez, although Hairston plays either wing position, Pop has used him a lot at the 3 (guarding SFs). He even played the 4 sometimes, when they went small.

[RiverwalkParade]

I'm actually okay with the roster as is, but I think the RJ signing may be the signal of a TP trade (yeah, I said it).

I know it is not a popular idea in this forum, but if Hill, Manu, RJ works well on the court and we can move TP for a big man of the future and a capable back-up PG then I say we do it.

[coyotes_geek]

If Hairston and Gee are both guaranteed, that brings us to 14. We could go into the season with only 13 - Pop's done it before - but we still seem thin at SF since everyone but RJ is a rookie or sophomore. But then again, the market's pretty thin for SF. At this point, Matt Barnes or someone like that is a bigger priority than Shaq, even for vet minimum.

Hairston is unguaranteed and Gee has a small guarantee. I think it's likely the Spurs only go with a 13 person roster for a good chunk of the season.