Bus driver fired after he refuses to take women to Planned Parenthood clinic

[PM5K]

AUSTIN, Texas -- An Austin bus driver has filed a lawsuit claiming he was fired based on his religious beliefs.

Wire reports state an attorney for Edwin Graning filed the lawsuit against Capital Area Rural Transportation System. Graning, an ordained Christian minister, states in the lawsuit he was "concerned that he might be transporting a client to undergo an abortion" when he refused to take two women to a Planned Parenthood clinic. Graning was later fired when he returned his bus to the bus yard.

The lawsuit claims Graning's former employer violated Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which prohibits employment discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex or national origin.

Graning is represented by attorneys from the American Center for Law & Justice, which was founded by evangelical Christian leader Pat Robertson.

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[Drachen]

Um, doesnt the bus run a specified route? Fired for not running your route. Done

[DisAsTerBot]

ahhh ministers.....

[Drachen]

The funny thing is there was no discrimination based on his religious beliefs. The dude was hired right. They were firing him for failing to perform his job function. It would be discrimination if they didn't fire him.

[The Reckoning]

dumbass. they were probably picking up their nuvaring or something like that.

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol abusing the system

looks like someone is going to be compensated

[PM5K]

For what it's worth I don't think it was a specific route, I believe he was dispatched to pick them up at a specific location and take them to PP.

[CubanMustGo]

Only 3% of PP's work involves abortions. Dude made an assumption, refused to take a passenger where they LEGALLY wanted to go, he was fired for failure to perform his job. End of story.

[Richard Cranium]

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[Kriz-Maxima]

Maybe if he did his job he wouldn't had gotten fired.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

I wonder how many people of Islamic faith are being fired cuz they won't take you to a liquor store. Happened to a friend this past weekend.

[Drachen]

I wonder how many people of Islamic faith are being fired cuz they won't take you to a liquor store. Happened to a friend this past weekend.

In a taxi?

[PM5K]

I tried to get a ride from an Amish dude to the HEB but he told me his horse was too tired.

[Drachen]

I tried to get a ride from an Amish dude to the HEB but he told me his horse was too tired.

Oh yeah, well a Jew told me he wouldn't drive me to the Culebra Meat Market #10.

[PM5K]

Oh yeah, well a Jew told me he wouldn't drive me to the Culebra Meat Market #10.

What about #9?

[Drachen]

What about #9?

He said that was ok, but only because we stopped at costco first and I bought him a hot dog.

[JoeChalupa]

Oh yeah, well a Jew told me he wouldn't drive me to the Culebra Meat Market #10.

:lol

[Viva Las Espuelas]

In a taxi?

Yep. I heard about it last year and now I know for a fact that it's going on. He told my buddy flat out that it's against his beliefs to take him there.

[JoeChalupa]

He said that was ok, but only because we stopped at costco first and I bought him a hot dog.

kosher?

[Drachen]

Yep. I heard about it last year and now I know for a fact that it's going on. He told my buddy flat out that it's against his beliefs to take him there.

Good thing taxi drivers are set up as their own businesses and therefore allowed to pick up or not pick up a fare as they see fit.

[Drachen]

kosher?

Costco sells Hebrew National hotdogs. LOL (don't worry I figured that maybe only half of the people would know and that I would have to explain, but it was just a question of who and when).

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Good thing taxi drivers are set up as their own businesses and therefore allowed to pick up or not pick up a fare as they see fit.

I guess you're for segregated country clubs then, too.

[Drachen]

I am for business owners being able to cater to whatever customer they want. So long as they don't receive government funding or break any laws in the process.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

I am for business owners being able to cater to whatever customer they want. So long as they don't receive government funding or break any laws in the process.

Catering is one thing. Segregating is another.

[Drachen]

I guess you're for segregated country clubs then, too.

Also, to directly answer your question. I don't care about who country clubs let into their ranks. It is a private institution and as long as the will of the membership is reflected in its policies, why not have the ability to segregate, or not segregate?

If you are asking if I would join such a club, no, it would be too ... monochromatic and non-varietal to me. I probably couldn't anyway since my kids are half-mexican which tells you a little about my wife.

[Drachen]

Catering is one thing. Segregating is another.

This (or these) taxi drivers that you speak of have set policies in their business to cater to the "not looking to buy alcohol at this moment" subset of the market.

[PM5K]

He told my buddy flat out that it's against his beliefs to take him there.

So he asked to be taken to the place next door, lol.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

And a few business owners in the 60s catered to the "not looking to share this space with a negro at this moment" subset in the market.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

So he asked to be taken to the place next door, lol.

Nope. Once he knew that's where he wanted to go he took him straight to his hotel.

[JoeChalupa]

That is a correct statement.

[Drachen]

And a few business owners in the 60s catered to the "not looking to share this space with a negro at this moment" subset in the market.

Ok, well if you are going to go that route, tell me when you are organizing a taxi sit-in in this guy's cab, I will let other people who have too much time on their hands that it should be sweaty ballrific.

[Drachen]

That is a correct statement.

what is?

Oh and PMK5, I was thinking the exact same thing, but I was in the midst of battling a metaphor that was epically stupid.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Ok, well if you are going to go that route, tell me when you are organizing a taxi sit-in in this guy's cab, I will let other people who have too much time on their hands that it should be sweaty ballrific.

Well more than likely it will be at the taxi company's place. That is if the taxi cab company isn't named Habib's Lift Services or Akbar's Ride cuz the company, be it Yellow Taxi or Checker cab is the company employing him. Just like the bus driver.

[Drachen]

And a few business owners in the 60s catered to the "not looking to share this space with a negro at this moment" subset in the market.


Once again, not something that I support, but if the market isn't making them change their practices. . . .

Put it this way. Woolworths didn't change their lunch counter policy because it was the right thing to do, it was because they were losing sales all across the country because the sit-ins, etc got publicity which was broadcast all over, accompanied by those same people at the sit ins being tortured by the powers that be.

If this guy isn't worried about the lost fare, oh well. what can you do, he is a private business owner.

Another problem with your metaphor is that one set is being "discriminated" against over an action they would like to take, while the other is being discriminated against based on who they are. No choice involved.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Wow. Ok.

[Drachen]

Well more than likely it will be at the taxi company's place. That is if the taxi cab company isn't named Habib's Lift Services or Akbar's Ride cuz the company, be it Yellow Taxi or Checker cab is the company employing him. Just like the bus driver.


Just know that many cabbies are independant and are only affiliated with a company as customers of that company's services.

[ChumpDumper]

Nope. Once he knew that's where he wanted to go he took him straight to his hotel.Why did he stay in the cab?

[Spurminator]

Yep. I heard about it last year and now I know for a fact that it's going on. He told my buddy flat out that it's against his beliefs to take him there.

I think this is more similar to a pizza company saying they won't deliver to your neighborhood than it is to segregation.

The driver should have let your friend out immediately so he could find a different cab though.