The official "He'll be better in his second year" thread

[benefactor]

RJ shouldn't need TP to be aggressive in order to be productive. That's a copout.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Tonight we saw the RJ I feared we'd see this season. Hope we don't see him too many more times this year.

[mingus]

it's really, really ridiculous that threads like this--points that were made months ago, and months before that, and months before that--need to be regurgitated. some people need to move on and learn to talk about present circumstances. no one wants to read about what they read two months ago and two months before that.

[z0sa]

Tonight we saw the RJ I feared we'd see this season. Hope we don't see him too many more times this year.

Foulweather fans suck :td

[yavozerb]

Tonight we saw the RJ I feared we'd see this season. Hope we don't see him too many more times this year.

Guess you've been sitting on this statement all season..Congrats on finally getting to use it. The offense was bad all around minus manu..

[ohmwrecker]

Scoreboard!


Shit. Wrong thread.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Foulweather fans suck :td


Guess you've been sitting on this statement all season..Congrats on finally getting to use it. The offense was bad all around minus manu..

You can both fuck off.

I have complemented RJ on his excellent start to the year multiple times, and admitted multiple times that so far I've been wrong. I can't have a joke the first time he really tanks and plays with no aggression? Get a fucking grip, dipshits.

[mingus]

jokes aren't supposed to be predictable, which is why some people need to find find new jokes.

[MaNu4Tres]

Just imagine the potential on this team if Bobby Simmons or Ime Udoka were starting at small forward...

:stirpot:

[z0sa]

You can both fuck off.

I have complemented RJ on his excellent start to the year multiple times, and admitted multiple times that so far I've been wrong. I can't have a joke the first time he really tanks and plays with no aggression? Get a fucking grip, dipshits.

You and your RJ haters club attitude can fuck off. Waiting in the shadows for a bad game so you can vindicate yourself in total douche fashion does not constitute a "joke."

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

You and your RJ haters club attitude can fuck off. Waiting in the shadows for a bad game so you can vindicate yourself in total douche fashion does not constitute a "joke."

Once again you display to all the fact that you can't read.

1. who has been "waiting in the shadows"? I've been owning up to the fact that I was wrong about RJ and that his game and effort are vastly improved. Ive done so in 4 or 5 threads, and as I said FROM THE START, I'm really happy to be wrong about it. Not enough for you?

2. I wasn't "vindicating myself", I was stating a fact - I hope we don't see this RJ too often. Do you hope we see him play like this all the time?

3. You define the term "seeing what you want to see". You just love to twist other people's words and put your own spin on them. You call me a douche even though I openly admit when I am wrong, so what the fuck does that make you?

[z0sa]

The bitter little bitch is you, bro. Bitter about a 40 million dollar contract. Bitter you've looked a fool the vast majority of this admittedly young season. I can read just fine, and I don't believe a word of it. You've already made your position clear: you want RJ to fail so you can be right. We all know this.

nice ninja edit on the "bitter little bitch" insult, tbh.

[Warlord23]

In his first 10 games, RJ shot 50% or better 8 times out of 10.

In the last 6 games, he's shot 40% or worse 5 times out of 6.

[z0sa]

It is what it is. He's streaky as hell, obviously. At least some have the heart to support him both when he sucks and when he's dominating.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

The bitter little bitch is you, bro. Bitter about a 40 million dollar contract. Bitter you've looked a fool the vast majority of this admittedly young season. I can read just fine, and I don't believe a word of it. You've already made your position clear: you want RJ to fail so you can be right. We all know this.

nice ninja edit on the "bitter little bitch" insult, tbh.

Yes, you know what I'm thinking despite what I say to the contrary. Why do you read message boards when obviously you are a mind-reader and can state the truth regardless of other people's actual stated opinions? :rolleyes

I have been a Spurs fanatic for 20 years but I want RJ to fail and hurt the team - can't you see how absurd that is? I stated from the start that I hoped he didn't fail even though it would prove me wrong (unlike most people, I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong), have stated multiple times in various threads since that so far I have been proven wrong and that I'm really enjoying watching his play this year, and yet you still cling to your little theory? Pathetic.

[TJastal]

it's really, really ridiculous that threads like this--points that were made months ago, and months before that, and months before that--need to be regurgitated. some people need to move on and learn to talk about present circumstances. no one wants to read about what they read two months ago and two months before that.

These are "present circumstances" and it appears RJ has mentally bailed & gone right back to his old self. Not surprising, really.

[TJastal]

Yes, you know what I'm thinking despite what I say to the contrary. Why do you read message boards when obviously you are a mind-reader and can state the truth regardless of other people's actual stated opinions? :rolleyes

I have been a Spurs fanatic for 20 years but I want RJ to fail and hurt the team - can't you see how absurd that is? I stated from the start that I hoped he didn't fail even though it would prove me wrong (unlike most people, I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong), have stated multiple times in various threads since that so far I have been proven wrong and that I'm really enjoying watching his play this year, and yet you still cling to your little theory? Pathetic.

Don't mind Zosa, he's going for the "most butthurt poster of the year", and he's got a lot of competition..

[ohmwrecker]

http://images.memegenerator.net/Buzz-and-woody/ImageMacro/1885876/Butthurt-Butthurt-everywhere.jpg

[z0sa]

Whatever, Ruff. You can't support the spurs yet hate on one of their cog players every time you can. It doesn't go both ways. You've said you want to be proven wrong, true. You've always said at least you'll have some vindication of being right whenever you're not. It is what it is, like I just said. All I do is support the men in black.

[z0sa]

Don't mind Zosa, he's going for the "most butthurt poster of the year", and he's got a lot of competition..

which obviously would include you, if such an award existed. but why compete for most butthurt, when you've got "biggest dumbass" locked up?

[ohmwrecker]

which obviously would include you, if such an award existed. but why compete for most butthurt, when you've got "biggest dumbass" locked up?

The competition is tight this year!

[ElNono]

You gotta give RJ a pass... obviously, he wasn't going to shoot 60% for the year, but this was his very first game where he looked like last season. If he keeps on adding games like this one, then you turn on the warning light.

I do want to point out what I think it's a misconception around here though. That you might not like a player in the roster doesn't mean you don't support the team. It's actually the contrary. Because you want the team to succeed, and because somebody opines that a player is counterproductive to that goal, they're simply pointing that out.
Almost everyone here has complained about a player at some point. Be it Bogans, Mason, Udoka, Mahinmi, Neal, Finley, Elson, Bonner, and obviously RJ.
I don't believe for a second that whoever does that is not a fan. I think at the end of the day they want the same as everyone else: the TEAM to win.

[TJastal]

which obviously would include you, if such an award existed. but why compete for most butthurt, when you've got "biggest dumbass" locked up?

Me butthurt? What do I have to butthurt about? I'm not the one crying and throwing a tantrum about other people's opinions.

[z0sa]

Nono, Like I said then, and have said this thread.. I understand a lot of the hate is warranted, for the exact reason you say: counterproductive to the the "goal."

but doing it just so you can have some vindication is disgusting.. which is why I'm so "butthurt" (not) about ruff.. he does always seem to have the team's back, but hating just so you can be right? ..

[z0sa]

Me butthurt?

:lmao nice try, kid.

[ElNono]

Nono, Like I said then, and have said this thread.. I understand a lot of the hate is warranted, for the exact reason you say: counterproductive to the the "goal."

but doing it just so you can have some vindication is disgusting.. which is why I'm so "butthurt" (not) about ruff.. he does always seem to have the team's back, but hating just so you can be right? ..

I don't condone the vindication angle. I've eaten my crow on this specific topic. Obviously is a long season and if RJ makes a 180 degree turn (or like Kidd would say, a 360), you'll hear from me. But it's not vindication. I want the Spurs to win just as much as anybody else in here.

[z0sa]

All of us called RJ out for his piss poor play last year. and the vast mjaority, myself included, dislike his contract. I think thats where ruff is confused - I am actually on his side. I am going to be ultra pissed if RJ fails again. Yet that doesn't mean I'm going to feel anything other than ultra-pissed should it happen. There should be no vindication no matter how right ruff is. RJ's failure goes hand in hand with the Spurs'.

/rant

[TDMVPDPOY]

haters lurking when someone has a bad game then bringing out the dong for a beating

[jjktkk]

These are "present circumstances" and it appears RJ has mentally bailed & gone right back to his old self. Not surprising, really.

One bad game for RJ, and hes already "mentally bailed & gone right back to his old self"? So what happens if RJ has a good game? Do you just flip your opinion, or just say its luck or something?

[MaNu4Tres]

Just imagine the potential on this team if Bobby Simmons or Ime Udoka were starting at small forward...

:stirpot:

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

You gotta give RJ a pass... obviously, he wasn't going to shoot 60% for the year, but this was his very first game where he looked like last season. If he keeps on adding games like this one, then you turn on the warning light.

I do want to point out what I think it's a misconception around here though. That you might not like a player in the roster doesn't mean you don't support the team. It's actually the contrary. Because you want the team to succeed, and because somebody opines that a player is counterproductive to that goal, they're simply pointing that out.
Almost everyone here has complained about a player at some point. Be it Bogans, Mason, Udoka, Mahinmi, Neal, Finley, Elson, Bonner, and obviously RJ.
I don't believe for a second that whoever does that is not a fan. I think at the end of the day they want the same as everyone else: the TEAM to win.

Spot on. :toast

And I think RJ will not revert to last year's form - he clearly understands his role this year and is committed to being aggressive. He'll have the odd poor game, but his added comfort and aggression this year will see him contribute.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

The competition is tight this year!

...maybe that's why the:


http://images.memegenerator.net/Buzz-and-woody/ImageMacro/1885876/Butthurt-Butthurt-everywhere.jpg

:lmao

[TJastal]

One bad game for RJ, and hes already "mentally bailed & gone right back to his old self"? So what happens if RJ has a good game? Do you just flip your opinion, or just say its luck or something?

This is not just 1 game, its a trend that's been going on for almost a month now.

RJ's last 8 games:

27-68, 39% FG
9-29, 30% 3 pt shooting.

This looks a lot like his #'s from last year, but actually worse.

[mingus]

These are "present circumstances" and it appears RJ has mentally bailed & gone right back to his old self. Not surprising, really.

a thread started i don't know how long ago about how he is not worth his money, and then bringing up a game to validate that is just stupid. bringing back any topic that has been talked about as long as that was just needs to stay in the past. did you see me bumping up threads that were created 1 year ago talking about how much RJ sucked and blah blah blah because i wanted to prove those people wrong? no. why? because, i let the past be the past. create new threads, have new ideas. all this re-hashing of old threads shows a lack of intelligence and an eagerness to perform self-fellatio. i could bring up the dozens of threads in which you talked about how RMJ was destroyed by Pop and point to the fact that he's shooting like 9% in NY right now. but i don't because i don't really care to let the people who come on this board read regurgitation and witness my self-fellatio. that's not what they're here for and that's not what i'm here for. so lets start to use some imagination and create topics that are more deservging to be on the front page than this thread.

[TJastal]

a thread started i don't know how long ago about how he is not worth his money, and then bringing up a game to validate that is just stupid. bringing back any topic that has been talked about as long as that was just needs to stay in the past. did you see me bumping up threads that were created 1 year ago talking about how much RJ sucked and blah blah blah because i wanted to prove those people wrong? no. why? because, i let the past be the past. create new threads, have new ideas. all this re-hashing of old threads shows a lack of intelligence and an eagerness to perform self-fellatio. i could bring up the dozens of threads in which you talked about how RMJ was destroyed by Pop and point to the fact that he's shooting like 9% in NY right now. but i don't because i don't really care to let the people who come on this board read regurgitation and witness my self-fellatio. that's not what they're here for and that's not what i'm here for. so lets start to use some imagination and create topics that are more deservging to be on the front page than this thread.

What if I feel this thread is deserving of the front page?

[mingus]

What if I feel this thread is deserving of the front page?

you can feel what ever you want to feel, i personally just want to read something new when i come on here. i don't want to read what was thrown in the trash months ago.

[TJastal]

you can feel what ever you want to feel, i personally just want to read something new when i come on here. i don't want to read what was thrown in the trash months ago.

So nobody is making you click on old threads. Why do you?

[Mav-elous Man]

Oh, good. Another RJ thread full of extremist, absolutist, obsessively negative bullshit.

Question: When are we going to move on?

The deed is done, the pickings were slim
It's not your money, you're not in the gym
We were never getting LeBron instead
Did we really need another RJ thread?


You, sir, are a realist. I don't think Spurs fans take to kindly to your type 'round here.

[#2!]

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[benefactor]

He played some great D today. :toast

[ohmwrecker]

Scoreboard!

[benefactor]

Here we are in late March...with no Parker or Manu...and Dick still can give the Spurs a damn thing. Hell, if he doesn't make that late three he winds up with more fouls than points.

He's not playing with near the energy he was in November and December. Back then he was just playing ball and not thinking. Now he back to being the same damn player he was a year ago.

lol Spurs
lol second year
lol working with Pop and having it just wear off
lol paying 30 million for three more seasons of this shit

[adidas11]

:lol

[benefactor]

:lol
Agreed.

[benefactor]

I've been very patient with this thread. He has has countless bad performances where I could have bumped it an lol'd...but what I saw early in the year gave me a glimmer of hope so I showed restraint. Now we are 8 games from the post season and he is right back to square one.

[TD 21]

His athleticism is declining, but he's still an above average athlete, as far as straight line running and jumping. He's never had great lateral quickness, but that never stopped him from getting the line in the past. Right now, he's strictly a spot up shooter. Late last season, he at least focused on rebounding. Now, that's not even there consistently. He might as well be 37 year old Finley at this point, right down to the averages.

Even tonight, a game where he should have taken double digit shots and got to the line at least six times, he was content to camp out in the corner. They could have given some run of the mill, inexpensive type a one-two year contract to do this.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Here we are in late March...with no Parker or Manu...and Dick still can give the Spurs a damn thing. Hell, if he doesn't make that late three he winds up with more fouls than points.

He's not playing with near the energy he was in November and December. Back then he was just playing ball and not thinking. Now he back to being the same damn player he was a year ago.

lol Spurs
lol second year
lol working with Pop and having it just wear off
lol paying 30 million for three more seasons of this shit

I got completely pilloried for saying that late in the offseason. :rolleyes

His early season form was superb, I just wish he'd kept it up. Even if he did he's not worth 10m/yr.

Anyway, let's hope for a miracle reversion to some sort of real contribution. Sadly, I think Pop has institutionalised him within the system to the point that he's forgotten how to play creative basketball. :depressed

[underdawg]

I got completely pilloried for saying that late in the offseason. :rolleyes

His early season form was superb, I just wish he'd kept it up. Even if he did he's not worth 10m/yr.

Anyway, let's hope for a miracle reversion to some sort of real contribution. Sadly, I think Pop has institutionalised him within the system to the point that he's forgotten how to play creative basketball. :depressed

you're missing the point - the Spurs were able to stay underneath the salary cap with RJ's deal. It was the best the Spurs could do - there was no one else available. Stop being negative - the Spurs have the best record in the league.

in all truth, I'm really hoping Bonner and Jefferson redeem themselves somehow or someway to make their signings worthwhile enough that the FO didn't complete crap their pants in getting Timmy one more ring.

At this point, it doesn't matter what Bonner or Jefferson make - the reality is that their re-signings ultimately (as it looks today) did not increase the Spurs chances to win.

[ElNono]

Had me fooled early in the season...

[objective]

I've been very patient with this thread. He has has countless bad performances where I could have bumped it an lol'd...

I do have to give you credit, you were far more patient than the RJ fanclubbers dared to be. Seemed like early in the season before a month had even passed they were dancing about with their clothes off, dropping 'lols' and taunting like crazy.

[sliver]

For all you guys criticizing RJ, what about Pop who wouldn't run any plays for him. He made him the player he is now, camping in the corner and making space for Manu and Tony down the lane. I sometimes watch the games and I see Tony slashing trough 3 defenders and RJ is alone, yet he still won't pass the ball.

I've been watching RJ play since he was in the league, and yes he can slash to the basket and it's disgusting what Spurs made of him. Also, lol at Bonner being in the team, that guy is a freaking joke, wonder how he plays on the team with best record.

[Johnny RIngo]

Can't believe Jefferson/Bonner make a combined 11.4 million. Fucking waste of money and it's only going to get worse. 12.5 million next year, 13.8 million in 2013, 15 million in 2014. Duncan took a paycut for THIS?

[Ice009]

Can't believe Jefferson/Bonner make a combined 11.4 million. Duncan took a paycut for THIS?

Can you please delete that post I don't want to read that again.

Spurs have to trade one or both if they don't think they will play any better.

[ogait]

This thread continues to feel pointless. It's like blaming Edie House in Miami and give Lebron, Wade and Bosh a pass when they don't win.
And if you're going to talk about his salary, well though luck, where were you when the Spurs took his fat contract from the Bucks.

Last year RJ played in the payoffs like he played in the regular season. No confidence in his long range shot, too afraid to stand behind the 3 point line.

Tis year he's still 4th or 5th option on the Spurs offence and his role his limited to shooting 3 pointers but he's making them at a 43 % wich is far better than expected.

Come playoff time the only thing I expect from him is to show effort on D and shoot those 3's.

[sliver]

You obviously don't get it, do you.. You can't change a player in 1 year, when he has been playing differently for 10-15 years. He was a slasher and had solid mid-range shot.

Now you expect him to camp in corner whole game and pray for a ball from some gracious teammate so he can knock it down. Guy shoots 5-7 balls per 30+ minutes and you expect him to be efficient, please..

If he could get a few more balls, and get some confidence from getting layups and dunks, his shots would start to drop more easily. He scored 20ppg without J. Kid as a Net, and he did score 20ppg playing for Bucks without a brilliant point guard.

There was a 1 play for him at start of the season where he would run by the Duncan's screen and catch it on alley-oop, but that was it. I would be pissed of if that's what I get whole season, his confidence probably started going away and he know just does what his "team" asks from him and doesn't complain, because they win. At least they did.

[G-Dawgg]

RJ is good. Only problem is, alot less plays are being run for him... no more alley-oop lobs, and he was at his most effective early in the season when guys like Parker, Hill, and Manu were fast-breaking with him leaking out. We were running teams into the ground and scoring 120+ points a game... Why the Spurs went away from this I don't know. Blame the coaching I say, but RJ is fine, he's hitting his 3's and defending well, he's just not getting many shot attempts.

[ohmwrecker]

I've been very patient with this thread. He has has countless bad performances where I could have bumped it an lol'd...but what I saw early in the year gave me a glimmer of hope so I showed restraint. Now we are 8 games from the post season and he is right back to square one.

Doesn't he realize he's making me look bad?!

I think he's in a slump . . . but there is an heightened sense of concern because he's . . . well . . . RJ tbh. Hopefully, he will break out of it for the playoffs. He played very well last season against the Mavs after playing terrible all year. This year he has developed his role, but it is in hibernation right now. He needs a game or two, where Pop gives him some touches to try and kick start his mojo. I think he's in a sort of basketball atrophy right now and he needs to be involved more.

The absurd amount of bad three point shots the Spurs are taking right now aren't doing RJ any favors.

[quentin_compson]

Even right now, RJ is better than he was last year, but that isn't saying much.

Of course, he doesn't get a lot of touches, and with literally no true PG on the floor, as was the case yesterday, things can only get worse for a player that struggles to create his own shot.
But I was really disappointed with the lack of aggression he displayed against the Blazers. He's a veteran and should have stepped up for a depleted team. Instead, he was just a by-stander.
One thing I noticed during the last couple of months: Even if RJ penetrates, he seldom takes it all the way to the rim. Most of the time, he opts to pass the ball out to the perimeter again. That was certainly different earlier in the season.

[bus driver]

he is better than last season.......did i expect more? YES!

at least he was better in the first half of the season.......:depressed

[Isitjustme?]

At this point the best we can hope for is to trade him for someone else's bad contract in the offseason and hope that player can produce more or fit a bigger need.

[DPG21920]

He isn't better than last season. I have proven this already. With his improved shooting (not for the past month or two though) he is at best a wash. He has declined in pretty much every statistical area except for shooting %.

[Isitjustme?]

At this point even getting someone like Corey Maggette or Andris Biedrins in return whose contracts are similar in length and money, would probably take including some draft picks or young prospects though. And those guys careers have nose dived as well.

[Cessation]

I agree, I was all for rj when he was playing well earlier, but now he's pulling the dissapearing act, even worse than last year.

[benefactor]

lol 14 empty points

It doesn't matter when fucking blow on defense. Same song, different verse.

[objective]

This thread makes for good reading.

Especially page 9.

But to be fair, RJ did raise his playoff 3 pt% to 35%. :lol

[TJastal]

This thread makes for good reading.

Especially page 9.

But to be fair, RJ did raise his playoff 3 pt% to 35%. :lol

I like this little excerpt:


Another detail that seems too often overlooked is that the Spurs paid more money for RJ in total than they otherwise would have, so they threw good money after bad money, have him here for three more years and have no way of getting rid of him if he continues to stink. (an additional reality is that they used all the money they "saved" to give Matt Bonner 16 million bucks)

Sobering thought here. The spurs threw good money after bad money in order to save good money which in turn was thrown after bad money.

Lemonade ftw.

[benefactor]

I've had a lot of fun with this thread and the RJ support crowd has had to eat a ton of crow...but I'd be lying if I said I was happy being right. Early in the season he really did look like the extra work was going to pay off...but he quickly went back to what he was before.

[MaNu4Tres]

I've had a lot of fun with this thread and the RJ support crowd has had to eat a ton of crow...but I'd be lying if I said I was happy being right. Early in the season he really did look like the extra work was going to pay off...but he quickly went back to what he was before.

I'm just going to copy and paste my initial argument from the very beginning.

Hopefully some comprehension skills have developed over a year for some?

This was posted 10/23/2010.


This thread is just :lol

To defend myself and friends I associate with that were for R.J being resigned:

-Did we think RJ's play was worthy of the 40 million dollar deal? No we didn't.

-Was RJ the most realistic option for the Spurs this off-season? Yes he was. That is the realistic reality that took place. Not only was he was the best option, but his new deal saved Holt roughly 15-20 million.

-Do we think he has the chance to improve in his second season? Sure we do. His three point shooting was non-existent from February to the end of the year last year. Any amount of 3 point shooting will be an improvement.

-Does RJ's contract effect the Spurs from adding a significant (more than the MLE) free agent in the near future? No it doesn't. Not with Tim and Manu still on this team for two more seasons. Spurs would have just around the MLE to add anyone significant in the off-season via free agency if either scenario played out.

-Does his deal effect the Spurs from resigning Blair and Hill when their contracts are up? No it doesn't. Their deals are up when Manu's contract is off the books. Spurs will have plenty of money that off-season (30+million in cap room) and will have the nice 11 million dollar expiring contact to use in a trade from that off-season til February. How is that a bad rebuilding situation?


These are the reasons why I was for the R.J signing. I thought from the very get go, he would be the most realistic and best option since the majority of the MLE was going to go to Splitter anyway. Realizing this reality and the fact that R.J's contract doesn't necessarily effect the Spurs rebuilding process and doesn't effect the Hill or Blair being extended whenever that day comes in 3 years is why I was for it. His contract also doesn't necessarily effect Parker being resigned if Parker's new deal is front-loaded (which 95% of contracts are), since Tim's contract is off the books 2 years from now.

If Parker is resigned then yeah R.J's contract might effect Hill and Blair to be both extended. But you have to remember Manu's and Tim's contracts will be off the books by then and if Parker is resigned then I don't think Hill will be a Spur that much longer anyway.


My whole debate wasn't if R.J would improve or not in his second season. It was solely based off the reality of the situation now and the near future.


Even though R.J showed some improvements this year throughout 80-85% of the regular season and the first two playoff games, he was absolutely pathetic the past 4 games and much of late in the year. Which obviously contributed to the Spurs abrupt demise this post-season. Spurs need to do what they can to get rid of him. I personally believe packaging Blair and a late first round pick can get some negotiations going. (For those who are asking why Blair--Blair's contract will be up in 2 years anyway; his salary value will go up 500-600%. Meaning it's highly doubtful Spurs would consider resigning an undersized big at that price anyway. Therefore trading him now should be easy. Especially if they are rebuilding, which most likely will be the case. Therefore sweetening a RJ deal with Blair has to be considered now.)

If they can get rid of Rasho and Malik's contract, I'm hoping they can get rid of R.J's. Only time will tell.

But yeah, R.J was fucking pathetic the past 4 games. Jesus. Ultimately, Ruff, Nono, benefactor, HH, DPG and many others were right on him not being able to provide enough when it mattered. (Even though that never was my main argument against them.)

It's been a fun ride guys. But the championship window is sealed shut for a while tbh..

[benefactor]

I commend you for standing by him bro. I know it sucks that things happened the way they did. Again...I wish I could have been wrong...because RJ coming around could have been the small spark needed to get the Spurs at the very least out of the series with the Grizz.

[MaNu4Tres]

I commend you for standing by him bro. I know it sucks that things happened the way they did. Again...I wish I could have been wrong...because RJ coming around could have been the small spark needed to get the Spurs at the very least out of the series with the Grizz.

Never really stood by him. I stood by the front-office's decision trying to make chicken salad with the extra chicken.

Fortunately for the Spurs, R.J's contract doesn't hinder the rebuilding process.

They gave him pretty much house money tbh. Which was the main reason I didn't see a problem with his contract even though I believed he was overpaid.

It's pretty easy for some to figure out.