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Spur|n|Austin

04-18-2013, 08:40 AM

Agree to disagree here. I don't think Joan is at all useless, and in fact think she is second only to Peggy in terms of Man Men's female characters.

Agreed. There would be no Jaguar without her; that lucky bastard.

I liked Roger in seasons one and two. Then he got into his major Don jealousy phase for like a whole season, and was beyond annoying. He's come back around the last season or two, and is back to his funny smart self. There was a funny semi story arc where he kept getting cleaned out of his pocket cash by various employees last season that was vintage Sterling.

I wouldn't say he is back to his funny smart self just yet; the two deaths in his life took a major toll on him and he is breaking down. I think he is one very, unhappy man.

pikkiwoki

04-19-2013, 06:59 AM

pimps don't get bitchslapped by their wives as far as I know.

1:22 mark

P-vl9chF4MY

exstatic

04-19-2013, 07:34 AM

I wouldn't say he is back to his funny smart self just yet; the two deaths in his life took a major toll on him and he is breaking down. I think he is one very, unhappy man.

Funny and happy can be two TOTALLY different things. All of the dead alumni of SNL say hi.

Roger is having some problems, but at least he's on the couch and getting help. Don is the one who is truly adrift.

Reck

04-22-2013, 12:10 AM

This season has been quite boring.

:lol Joan (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17825) whoring herself into being a partner and she's still looked as a joke.

Harry dropped massive truth bombs up in that meeting. :lol

oh crap

04-22-2013, 12:17 AM

I thought tonights episode was the best of the season so far.

CuckingFunt

04-22-2013, 12:28 AM

Stan's beard is a national hero.

Reck

04-22-2013, 12:57 AM

I thought tonights episode was the best of the season so far.

Compared to the last 3, yes I agree.

ColinB

04-22-2013, 01:10 PM

Hmm, any chance of a SCDP and Cutler, Gleason, and Chaoug merger after they both failed on Heinz? Neither can compete with the big agencies.

Spur|n|Austin

04-22-2013, 01:15 PM

And I don't get the Joan hate.

I didn't either, then I realized last night that she's a cuckingfunt.

resistanze

04-22-2013, 01:36 PM

Joan is a pretty awesome character, tbh.

exstatic

04-23-2013, 06:08 AM

Hmm, any chance of a SCDP and Cutler, Gleason, and Chaoug merger after they both failed on Heinz? Neither can compete with the big agencies.

Uh, those guys got the Ketchup account. They went to the bar to rub it in SCDP's nose.

"They bought it in the room..."

Don's losing his fastball. He got beat by a girl.

Reck

04-23-2013, 06:59 AM

Uh, those guys got the Ketchup account. They went to the bar to rub it in SCDP's nose.

"They bought it in the room..."

Don's losing his fastball. He got beat by a girl.

Technically yes but Peggy cheated her way into the win. Basically Don's group did the heavy lifting and then got their cookie taken away.

leemajors

04-23-2013, 07:16 AM

Technically yes but Peggy cheated her way into the win. Basically Don's group did the heavy lifting and then got their cookie taken away.

SDCP weren't supposed to be talking to Heinz either, were they?

CuckingFunt

04-23-2013, 09:19 AM

Uh, those guys got the Ketchup account. They went to the bar to rub it in SCDP's nose.

"They bought it in the room..."

Don's losing his fastball. He got beat by a girl.

Neither agency got the account. When Teddy Chaoug asks to join in the commiserating at the bar, he says something to the effect of "J. Walter Thompson. Bought it in the room."

The line has been pretty commonly misunderstood, it seems, as at first it sounds like J. Walter Thompson was the guy who bought CGC's campaign. That's how I heard it at first. But JWT is actually a competing advertising company that would have been much bigger than either SCDP or CGC at the time. Heinz Ketchup let SCDP pay for the room while they met with several different suitors.

ColinB

04-23-2013, 09:26 AM

Uh, those guys got the Ketchup account. They went to the bar to rub it in SCDP's nose.

"They bought it in the room..."

Don's losing his fastball. He got beat by a girl.

Uh, no. They were in the bar for the same reason. Did they look happy to you?

Spur|n|Austin

04-23-2013, 09:39 AM

Uh, no. They were in the bar for the same reason. Did they look happy to you?

I had the feeling that nobody got the account, as of yet. I doubt they would have let either party know right away.

redzero

04-23-2013, 10:48 PM

This company rivalry has a lot of potential. It's been brewing in the background for three years, so it's nice to see it come into the foreground.

Reck

04-28-2013, 11:24 PM

Is it just me or did Trudy became hotter then ever?

She was always a cutie but she looking real good now.

exstatic

04-28-2013, 11:55 PM

The lyrics to the instrumental version of the song played over the closing with Don on the terrace:

Blue, blue, my world is blue
Blue is my world now I'm without you
Gray, gray, my life is gray
Cold is my heart since you went away

Red, red, my eyes are red
Crying for you alone in my bed
Green, green, my jealous heart
I doubted you and now we're apart

CHORUS:
When we met how the bright sun shone
Then love died, now the rainbow is gone

Black, black, the nights I've known
Longing for you so lost and alone
Gone, gone, the love we knew
Blue is my world now I'm without you.

Repeat CHORUS

Black, black, the nights I've known
Longing for you so lost and alone
Blue, blue, my world is blue
Blue is my world now I'm without you

oh crap

04-29-2013, 12:20 AM

jon hamm's a pretty talented actor. that bedroom scene with don and megan was pretty intense. decent episode.

oh crap

04-29-2013, 12:32 AM

btw, has anyone seen that Rectify show yet? It was on before the encore of mad men and I caught the last minute or two, now i'm curious.

exstatic

04-29-2013, 07:23 AM

btw, has anyone seen that Rectify show yet? It was on before the encore of mad men and I caught the last minute or two, now i'm curious.

It's actually a Sundance Channel production. I didn't have time to watch last night, and wasn't sure if it was a premier or if they are already into the season.

Spur|n|Austin

04-29-2013, 10:15 AM

btw, has anyone seen that Rectify show yet? It was on before the encore of mad men and I caught the last minute or two, now i'm curious.

Saw the preview last night and was pretty interested myself, I believe it's the same writers or producers or something as Breaking Bad. Worth a shot, imo.

As for Mad Men, pretty bad ass episode last night; Don is in a dark place..

exstatic

05-05-2013, 10:05 PM

F yeah!!! Biggest event since the end of season 3.

redzero

05-05-2013, 10:06 PM

Time to torrent it and comment tomorrow.

oh crap

05-05-2013, 10:18 PM

F yeah!!! Biggest event since the end of season 3.

Was gonna say the same thing. Excited again.

resistanze

05-05-2013, 10:20 PM

What an awesome episode.

pikkiwoki

05-05-2013, 10:44 PM

whoa!

redzero

05-06-2013, 12:47 AM

Fuck shit Jesus. I watched a rerun based on the comments in this thread, and whoa. So many things happened in this episode. I love the turn the writers took with CGC. Goddamn.

CuckingFunt

05-06-2013, 01:30 AM

Dammit. Shouldn't have read this thread. I had just talked myself into being practical and watching tonight's episode tomorrow, but now I'm going to have to watch it as soon as the download's complete.

Reck

05-06-2013, 03:03 AM

This show really gets you guys THAT excited? Ep was ok but nothing to jizz your pants over.

exstatic

05-06-2013, 07:22 AM

I think someone called what happened earlier in the thread, but I'm not sure who to credit.

ColinB

05-11-2013, 11:38 PM

I think someone called what happened earlier in the thread, but I'm not sure who to credit.

Sup.

DJ Mbenga

05-12-2013, 01:38 AM

this episode had leaked online. of course the most important story advancement in recent memory got leaked. gotta say i like this. more of this and less of don and that whore. its just cheap filler. he bangs her, talks up the husband and nothing comes out of it.

redzero

05-12-2013, 09:51 PM

:lol Burt Peterson

Dude can't catch a break.

oh crap

05-12-2013, 10:22 PM

:lol Burt Peterson

Dude can't catch a break.

:lmao

That scene with roger was awesome.

Reck

05-12-2013, 11:11 PM

:lol Burt Peterson

Dude can't catch a break.

ROFL that guy is Mad Men's official punching bag.

Hilarious scene. :lol

Spur-Addict

05-12-2013, 11:11 PM

Don was legit sad, that was an awkward scene.

redzero

05-12-2013, 11:16 PM

Don looked like a lost puppy. His butt was full of hurt.

Durant82

05-14-2013, 10:20 AM

So what the hell is up with Bob Benson. I have a hard time believing they'd waste this much time on a brown nosing suckup. Something big is about to go down and Bob's gotta have something to do with it.

leemajors

05-14-2013, 10:23 AM

Anyone catch the title of the book he took? I will watch it again in a bit just curious if anyone could make it out.

ColinB

05-14-2013, 10:28 AM

The Last Picture Show.

leemajors

05-14-2013, 10:29 AM

thanks

Amuseddaysleeper

05-15-2013, 02:27 PM

This is the best show on television....yes even better than Breaking Bad (which is great).

Amazing that it's in its 6th season and has yet to have a mediocre season.

Reck

05-19-2013, 10:42 PM

Don was extra douchey this episode.

oh crap

05-19-2013, 11:04 PM

didn't really care for tonights episode.

redzero

05-19-2013, 11:10 PM

What the fuck am I watching?

redzero

05-19-2013, 11:26 PM

http://i41.tinypic.com/3480qz7.gif

Can Ken get any more Based?

Reck

05-19-2013, 11:33 PM

What the fuck am I watching?

They tried the Sopranos dream sequence aproach.

redzero

05-19-2013, 11:48 PM

It worked. I felt like I was watching a David Lynch film. This episode was crazy awesome.

Jacob1983

05-20-2013, 02:08 AM

David Lynch sucks.

Spur|n|Austin

05-20-2013, 11:16 AM

Last night's episode felt like an acid trip yet it the best episode of the season, imo.

ColinB

05-21-2013, 04:47 AM

Great episode. Love Stan. Tap dancing Cosgrove was awesome. Bobby's "Are we negroes?" line was hilarious. I have no idea what I watched, but I enjoyed it.

Don is unraveling quickly.

Spur|n|Austin

05-21-2013, 08:23 AM

Great episode. Love Stan. Tap dancing Cosgrove was awesome. Bobby's "Are we negroes?" line was hilarious. I have no idea what I watched, but I enjoyed it.

Don is unraveling quickly.

That's how I felt :lol

oh crap

05-26-2013, 10:23 PM

Currently watching... But hot Betty is back!

redzero

05-27-2013, 09:59 PM

Duck Phillips or Bob Benson: who will kill SCDPCGC first?

And :lol at Peggy stabbing Abe.

oh crap

05-27-2013, 10:12 PM

I know everybody hates January jones but I thought she was great last night. What the fuck is benson really up to? And lol @ the Peggy/Ted scene at the end.

Spur|n|Austin

05-28-2013, 11:33 AM

Another solid episode - I knew Don and Betty would "cross paths" again like that..

leemajors

05-28-2013, 11:48 AM

Another solid episode - I knew Don and Betty would "cross paths" again like that..

And I bet if Betty told her hubby he would probably jizz his pants.

oh crap

05-28-2013, 11:49 AM

:lol

Spur|n|Austin

05-28-2013, 11:52 AM

And I bet if Betty told her hubby he would probably jizz his pants.

:lol yeah wtf was up with that?? I guess some men like to watch their wife with other men.. Weirdos.

leemajors

05-28-2013, 12:07 PM

:lol yeah wtf was up with that?? I guess some men like to watch their wife with other men.. Weirdos.

well, I guess either he was super happy about fat betty going bye bye and loving the acknowledgement of others admiring her, he gets off on cheating period, or he's a burgeoning cuck.

DesignatedT

05-31-2013, 11:32 PM

I thought last episode was good. The one before was kinda weird but the season is definitely going in an interesting direction.

Spur|n|Austin

06-03-2013, 07:47 AM

"We're conquistadors, I'm Vasco da Gama and you're some other Mexican. Our biggest challenge is to not get syphilis."

oh crap

06-10-2013, 12:56 AM

damn.. great episode. i knew benson was up to something but didn't see that coming. lol don getting busted.

Jacob1983

06-10-2013, 01:56 PM

So Benson is a homosexual or bisexual? I thought he had a thing for Joan but I guess he has a thing for Pete.

redzero

06-10-2013, 09:39 PM

Need more Ken. Damn this was an awkward episode.

ColinB

06-11-2013, 10:56 AM

I don't think Benson even works there.

leemajors

06-11-2013, 11:00 AM

I don't think Benson even works there.

Not in creative, but he is with the agency...?

ColinB

06-11-2013, 11:06 AM

haha, yeah I know. It's my 'way out there' theory. Dude isn't genuine at all, he is a hard character to figure out.

leemajors

06-11-2013, 11:08 AM

haha, yeah I know. It's my 'way out there' theory. Dude isn't genuine at all, he is a hard character to figure out.

I do like the "he's the new Don/Pete" who is gonna horn his way in theory.

Spur-Addict

06-11-2013, 12:00 PM

Ted has been acting very "soft", and emotional when it comes to Don. He has been whining quite a bit, and I find that repulsive. He practically begged/bribed Don to play nice with him.

Durant82

06-14-2013, 01:59 AM

I liked Benson better when i thought maybe he had more sinister motives than wanting to fuck Pete.

Reck

06-14-2013, 02:03 AM

This season bored me to death. Stopped watching around episode 8.

leemajors

06-17-2013, 09:21 AM

Good stuff last night. Draper was right, but it was funny to hear him say that shit :lol

redzero

06-17-2013, 03:32 PM

I love how blunt Pete is some times.

redzero

06-17-2013, 04:05 PM

The second half of this season has been awesome. Pete and Don went in this episode.

ChumpDumper

06-17-2013, 04:23 PM

Pete took an interesting tack.

lol Don projecting all over the agency.

redzero

06-17-2013, 04:47 PM

I agree with leemajors in that Draper was right, but at the same time, he clearly wasn't only thinking about the agency. Chaough and Peggy together annoyed the hell out of him.

oh crap

06-17-2013, 06:31 PM

http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2013/06/mad-men-review-the-quality-of-mercy-episode-612.html?utm_source=PANL&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=130617

CuckingFunt

06-17-2013, 08:24 PM

I could watch an entire show of Don Draper being an annoyed baby and Joan being an old Jewish woman.

exstatic

06-21-2013, 07:19 AM

I think they're ramping up to write out at least Pete and Sally.

Spur-Addict

06-21-2013, 08:23 AM

"Very Personal" LOL One of the best scenes on this show ever

redzero

06-23-2013, 09:55 PM

Dick Whitman is here.

leemajors

06-23-2013, 10:16 PM

Dick Whitman is here.

Well... Damn.

oh crap

06-23-2013, 10:17 PM

Gonna have to watch the next showing since I missed the first one.

Spur|n|Austin

06-23-2013, 11:22 PM

Dick Whitman is here.

interesting spin tonight.

DesignatedT

06-24-2013, 12:17 AM

Not sure what I thought was going to happen but this one through me off a little. Now we get to wait a year.

oh crap

06-24-2013, 01:33 AM

all i have to say is damn. gonna have to watch again, a lot to take in. lol pete and chevy. and fuck if i still don't have a thing for january jones.

ColinB

06-24-2013, 02:25 AM

Great episode. Great season.

CuckingFunt

06-24-2013, 03:11 AM

Trying to go over it in my mind... Is this the closest Mad Men has come to a cliffhanger season finale?

Seasons three, four, and five all end with unanswered questions and/or unknown futures -- the new agency, Don and Megan's engagement, and Don's potential return to old bad habits, respectively -- but the unknown quantity in all of those occasions seemed to be the success or failure of an implied plot point. This feels different. Far more of a "what happens next?" feeling than this show typically inspires.

Really good episode, I thought, but not at all what I expected after six seasons of Mad Men finales.

redzero

06-24-2013, 05:57 PM

Bravo, Weiner. You got everybody thinking Dick was going to self-destruct like Walt.

monosylab1k

06-26-2013, 01:14 AM

I still don't understand what the fuck Bob Benson's purpose is.

DesignatedT

06-26-2013, 01:27 AM

I still don't understand what the fuck Bob Benson's purpose is.

Shit's about to get real with that story line next season IMO.

Jacob1983

06-26-2013, 02:28 AM

Peggy looked hot in that slut outfit. And yes Dick Whitman is here. How many people know that Don is Dick Whitman? Betty knows. Doesn't Pete know or knows a little?

ColinB

04-13-2014, 11:03 PM

Back up for the new season. About to watch.

leemajors

04-14-2014, 08:28 PM

Back up for the new season. About to watch.

Neve Campbell sighting

ColinB

04-15-2014, 12:27 AM

Neve Campbell sighting

Wow, didn't even realize that was her on the plane. Last thing I saw her in was probably Scream. :lol

Overall, a solid first episode of the season. Opening scene was good.

Spur|n|Austin

04-15-2014, 10:41 AM

Pretty solid first episode, I can see this season having some wild twists.

The Gemini Method

04-15-2014, 10:46 AM

Oh snaps...that was Neve Campbell? Interesting start and it was funny seeing Pete try to be Californian...and he thinking that his real estate chick isn't gonna let Don beat it up.

Spur|n|Austin

04-15-2014, 10:53 AM

Oh snaps...that was Neve Campbell? Interesting start and it was funny seeing Pete try to be Californian...and he thinking that his real estate chick isn't gonna let Don beat it up.

Surprised Don did the opposite and turned down some quality widow sex.

The Gemini Method

04-15-2014, 10:56 AM

Surprised Don did the opposite and turned down some quality widow sex.

The way he went about it and the darkness of the tone was what made the turn-down really work. Like, we've seen Don turn down sex before but he always relents and gets it later. This was full on denial by Mr. Draper and I liked how it worked.

leemajors

04-15-2014, 11:36 AM

Oh snaps...that was Neve Campbell? Interesting start and it was funny seeing Pete try to be Californian...and he thinking that his real estate chick isn't gonna let Don beat it up.

the lady and i cracked up when he strolled in wearing that sweater like that. Was that Canter's?

The Gemini Method

04-15-2014, 11:48 AM

the lady and i cracked up when he strolled in wearing that sweater like that. Was that Canter's?

Yeah, that was Canter's the sign behind Pete was the old Canter's sign inside.

leemajors

04-15-2014, 01:21 PM

Yeah, that was Canter's the sign behind Pete was the old Canter's sign inside.

Austin has still doesn't have a good kosher deli at all, it fucking sucks. Plenty of places with great sandwiches, but no latkes for me unless we visit my gf's mom.

The Gemini Method

04-15-2014, 01:30 PM

Austin has still doesn't have a good kosher deli at all, it fucking sucks. Plenty of places with great sandwiches, but no latkes for me unless we visit my gf's mom.

Canter's latkes have fallen off a little bit--I normally just get the corned beef there. I'd just go to the Fairfax for Jewish food...though I haven't recently since my ex a few times back was the last Jewish girl I went out with.

Spur|n|Austin

04-15-2014, 01:30 PM

Austin has still doesn't have a good kosher deli at all, it fucking sucks. Plenty of places with great sandwiches, but no latkes for me unless we visit my gf's mom.

You should give Melvin's Deli Comfort a try - it's a food truck but it's off the charts good, imo. Their Reuben is pretttayyyy, pretayyyyyyy good.

http://s3-media3.ak.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/cYH8zBk5CeHXZwHu8ys2YA/l.jpg

leemajors

04-15-2014, 01:43 PM

You should give Melvin's Deli Comfort a try - it's a food truck but it's off the charts good, imo. Their Reuben is pretttayyyy, pretayyyyyyy good.

http://s3-media3.ak.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/cYH8zBk5CeHXZwHu8ys2YA/l.jpg

I've been there plenty, it's the best. I crave the pastrami reuben once or twice a month and just go saturday right when they open. Have to get at least a 15 mile ride in that day tho :lol

Spur|n|Austin

04-15-2014, 01:49 PM

I've been there plenty, it's the best. I crave the pastrami reuben once or twice a month and just go saturday right when they open. Have to get at least a 15 mile ride in that day tho :lol

:lol gotcha - this is making me hungry, back to mad men!

leemajors

04-22-2014, 09:03 PM

Sally went HAM on Don

Spur|n|Austin

04-23-2014, 12:07 AM

There are times when Sally comes off as a Betty the Bitch twin, but then the writers flash a bit of Don in her. It's pretty awesome; the show is fantastically written.

The Gemini Method

04-28-2014, 01:52 PM

Man, Don is not having the best of times at the moment. Guess, though, he kind of brought it on himself. Losing the ability to be Don Draper is going to be an interesting stretch of Weiner and Co. writing abilities.

Spur-Addict

04-30-2014, 05:44 PM

I'm disappointed he accepted the terms. I would have much rather he worked somewhere else as a competitor and annihilated them.

leemajors

04-30-2014, 06:28 PM

I'm disappointed he accepted the terms. I would have much rather he worked somewhere else as a competitor and annihilated them.

With this being the final "season" dunno if there is time for that to develop

Capt Bringdown

05-01-2014, 07:01 AM

Just getting into it on the NetFlix. Great show.

leemajors

05-06-2014, 09:25 PM

Marigold, show me around?

The Gemini Method

05-12-2014, 04:41 PM

Don Draper had a brilliant episode last night even if it were an awkward ménage...Michael Ginsberg won for batty conducting of behavioral mischievousness. Van Gogh for the 20th Century...

Phillip

05-12-2014, 06:08 PM

good episode

the nipple made me cringe

don is back to being a boss

leemajors

05-12-2014, 08:46 PM

Yeah I don't get Hamlin taunting the Draper like that, he gets back on his game and leaves the firm he can take clients w/him. Ginsberg arc was fascinating but it would suck if he was gone for good.

Spur|n|Austin

05-13-2014, 02:06 PM

Don Draper had a brilliant episode last night even if it were an awkward ménage...Michael Ginsberg won for batty conducting of behavioral mischievousness. Van Gogh for the 20th Century...

A bit awkward yes, but she was smoking hot, imo.

ChumpDumper

05-13-2014, 08:33 PM

The threesome was about the most predictable thing to happen this season once the new character was introduced, but each participant's actions afterwards were well done.

I can't tell if Don is actually giving PM a choice or just manipulating everyone to what he eventually wants, but the extra vagina seemed to bring his swagger back to the bidness.

gambit1990

05-13-2014, 09:38 PM

still no bob benson so far.

Don Draper

05-26-2014, 05:19 PM

So who thinks I'm dead before this series is over?

leemajors

05-26-2014, 07:26 PM

nobody that saw the last episode

leemajors

05-27-2014, 09:49 AM

I don't really want to spoil, but what happened with Bertram was rather abrupt. lol at Cutler

Spur|n|Austin

05-27-2014, 01:13 PM

I don't really want to spoil, but what happened with Bertram was rather abrupt. lol at Cutler

Yeah very abrupt - I knew it was a death by Sterling's reaction, just didn't expect Bertram until Roger was standing in his doorway.

What'd you think about that whole dance/singing scene?

gambit1990

05-27-2014, 01:59 PM

What'd you think about that whole dance/singing scene?

"What a good many old-fashioned musical numbers have in common is that they occur in a sort of twilight dream space that's emotionally true but not 'realistic' in any meaningful sense, and they're expressing what the characters are feeling, not merely advancing the plot. Bert is looking at Don, whose talent Bert always admired even when he wanted to strangle him. But really he's looking at the camera: at us. This musical number is for us. Don is merely the conduit, or the pretext, for its existence."

leemajors

05-27-2014, 02:08 PM

Yeah very abrupt - I knew it was a death by Sterling's reaction, just didn't expect Bertram until Roger was standing in his doorway.

What'd you think about that whole dance/singing scene?

I liked it, but everything post-bert felt disjointed, which I get... But I really wish they hadn't split the season.

Spur|n|Austin

05-27-2014, 03:12 PM

"What a good many old-fashioned musical numbers have in common is that they occur in a sort of twilight dream space that's emotionally true but not 'realistic' in any meaningful sense, and they're expressing what the characters are feeling, not merely advancing the plot. Bert is looking at Don, whose talent Bert always admired even when he wanted to strangle him. But really he's looking at the camera: at us. This musical number is for us. Don is merely the conduit, or the pretext, for its existence."

http://rack.2.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA4LzEyLzFkL21pbmRibG93bi44ZWE0MC5naWYKcA l0aHVtYgkxMjAweDk2MDA-/f76fbcf8/cdc/mind-blown.gif

So who thinks I'm dead before this series is over?

Not yet ole Donny boy, I do think you'll off yourself before the final credits roll though.

redzero

05-27-2014, 10:40 PM

The last three episodes were awesome, with each topping the last.

leemajors

05-28-2014, 02:18 PM

http://rack.2.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA4LzEyLzFkL21pbmRibG93bi44ZWE0MC5naWYKcA l0aHVtYgkxMjAweDk2MDA-/f76fbcf8/cdc/mind-blown.gif

Not yet ole Donny boy, I do think you'll off yourself before the final credits roll though.

If you like Elisabeth Moss (outside of her religious beliefs), Top of the Lake is great on Netflix. 7 part series set in NZ

Spur|n|Austin

05-28-2014, 02:39 PM

If you like Elisabeth Moss (outside of her religious beliefs), Top of the Lake is great on Netflix. 7 part series set in NZ

TIL that Elisabeth Moss was a Scientologist and also she was married to Fred Armison but that ended right after it started. She's quoted as saying: "He's so great at doing impersonations. But the greatest impersonation he does is that of a normal person.' To me, that sums it up." :lol

I'll check out Top of the Lake though, because I do think she's a fine actress.

The Gemini Method

05-28-2014, 03:40 PM

I don't think Don dies at the end--but I wouldn't be surprised if he does croak. Robert Morse' sendoff was nicely done in my opinion. Could be the last time we see the venerable theatre actor in a major visible role. He was great as Bertram Cooper and it'll be interesting to see how the last 7 episodes play out. Could Draper be on the verge of an epiphany where he comes to terms with his life and accepts the push forward into the me-generation of the 70's? Whereas he has been living that way through the 50's and mostly in the 60's? Peggy's ascension began in earnest when Don put his faith in to her and she'll probably be the star of the show in the 70's. Wouldn't be surprised to see her ascend to partner and fill in some of the void left with Cooper passing. Pete will probably continue his trade on the Left Coast as Roger Sterling gets his chance to finally step out of Roger Sterling Sr.'s and Bertram Cooper's collective shadow. Joan will probably get bukkaked by Don and Ted Chaough.

Blake

08-04-2014, 10:56 AM

I'm up to season 4 now.

the show moves at a glacial pace and I keep waiting for something huge to happen.

As soon as I think I've had enough, I keep watching. The characters and the back drops are just too cool.

leemajors

08-21-2014, 07:53 AM

Pretty good Nerdist podcast with Matthew Weiner:

http://www.nerdist.com/pepisode/nerdist-podcast-matthew-weiner/

leemajors

05-13-2015, 10:00 AM

interesting, Don seems to just want to disappear completely

Jacob1983

05-17-2015, 02:58 AM

It ends tonight. Had a good run.

Infinite_limit

05-17-2015, 03:09 AM

http://chews.it/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/whatwomenwant.gif

Phillip

05-18-2015, 10:05 AM

solid conclusion overall imo. balanced, nothing too terribly over the top, without being real anti-climactic either.

leemajors

05-18-2015, 01:25 PM

Brett Gelman :lol

Jacob1983

05-19-2015, 12:43 AM

The scene with Don and Betty on the phone was emotional. He called her birdie. I thought he finally felt bad and guilty for how he treated her. I also liked how he got peace for all bad shit he had done. And Peggy had a happy ending.

Spurtacular

06-29-2019, 10:57 PM

Just finished watching the series. Solid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDHxXY6FL_8

Spurtacular

06-29-2019, 10:58 PM

Don was extra douchey this episode.

Do eunuchs douche?

spurraider21

06-29-2019, 11:03 PM

great show tbh

spurraider21

06-29-2019, 11:04 PM

Do eunuchs douche?
lol derp fantasizing about reck's genital region

Capt Bringdown

06-29-2019, 11:09 PM

Finished a re-watch this year of Mad Men. Fantastic show.

Spurtacular

06-30-2019, 02:13 AM

Finished a re-watch this year of Mad Men. Fantastic show.

I wish I watched it when it was running. It was on my radar but I just never quite got to it. It was really good, and it felt like they played it straight for the most part. And unlike many shows, I think the first season is among the better seasons.

Spurtacular

06-30-2019, 02:14 AM

the show moves at a glacial pace and I keep waiting for something huge to happen.

Would've probably been more relatable to you if someone had gotten cucked. Oh well.

Spurtacular

07-01-2019, 03:59 AM

:lol I said out loud 'watch him off himself' when he shook hands with Don.

That Glen kid is still weird as ever.

He turned out okay, though.

Spurtacular

09-20-2019, 08:55 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnFtikYsyqc

Spurtacular

09-20-2019, 08:59 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhjJVa9V5_I

Spurtacular

09-20-2019, 09:07 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPQx2YgqPy8

Spurtacular

10-04-2019, 12:51 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV-IbKB5dlo

timtonymanu

06-02-2020, 10:04 AM

Watching this show for the first time before Netflix takes it off. Starting Season 7 now. I love this show.

Spurtacular

06-02-2020, 10:26 AM

Watching this show for the first time before Netflix takes it off. Starting Season 7 now. I love this show.

It's a great show. I bought it on VUDU on sale for whenever I get rid of my Netflix to have a quality show to rewatch.

spurraider21

06-03-2020, 12:05 PM

Watching this show for the first time before Netflix takes it off. Starting Season 7 now. I love this show.
great show :tu

SpursforSix

06-03-2020, 12:27 PM

At what point did anyone realize they liked this show or not? I've watched episode 1 twice now over the last several years and I think I maybe made it through episode 2 the 2nd time.

Reck

06-03-2020, 02:19 PM

At what point did anyone realize they liked this show or not? I've watched episode 1 twice now over the last several years and I think I maybe made it through episode 2 the 2nd time.

:lol

I watched the show but I dont understand the hype about it. Sure it's good but it's not in the upper echelon of great TV shows like The Wire, Breaking bad, Sopranos etc.

It's a show that in my opinion is in the Shield, Lost, justified, and The X File tier.

A show you watch once over in your lifetime.

DAF86

06-03-2020, 04:57 PM

All my Friends and family members have watched this show, but I can't get around to giving it a chance. From the outside looking in it just looks so damn boring. There's nothing that pulls me in (not even all the beatiful looking ladies). I'm probably just being a dumbass and if I do try to watch it I will like it, but I just can't. And, at this point, I'm probably never going to watch it since they are about to be taking it out of Netflix and I'm currently watching Better Call Saul.

spurraider21

06-03-2020, 05:32 PM

:lol

I watched the show but I dont understand the hype about it. Sure it's good but it's not in the upper echelon of great TV shows like The Wire, Breaking bad, Sopranos etc.

It's a show that in my opinion is in the Shield, Lost, justified, and The X File tier.

A show you watch once over in your lifetime.
its not going to have the adrenaline of shows like Breaking Bad, it's definitely more of a slow burn. even sopranos was like that for the most part.

my S-Tier is Breaking Bad and GoT (yes, even with a shitty end to the run)

A-Tier is Wire, Sopranos, Mad Men, Better Call Saul (have not watched most recent season)

not including comedies

Reck

06-03-2020, 06:42 PM

its not going to have the adrenaline of shows like Breaking Bad, it's definitely more of a slow burn. even sopranos was like that for the most part.

my S-Tier is Breaking Bad and GoT (yes, even with a shitty end to the run)

A-Tier is Wire, Sopranos, Mad Men, Better Call Saul (have not watched most recent season)

not including comedies

Cant say I disagree with that list. Pretty good.

Better Caul Saul season 5 probably gets it into your tier s. Fucking amazing.

Dexter also makes it into my A tier. At least partially. 1-5.

spurraider21

06-03-2020, 06:45 PM

Cant say I disagree with that list. Pretty good.

Better Caul Saul season 5 probably gets it into your tier s. Fucking amazing.

Dexter also makes it into my A tier. At least partially. 1-5.
I think Dexter 1-4 is definitely A-tier

5-8 is like, C- at best

timtonymanu

06-03-2020, 07:23 PM

It took me years to actually watch Mad Men too because it didn’t look like my kind of show. But I stuck with it when I finally watched it and don’t regret it at all. One of the greatest shows ever imo. The characters and writing really make the show excel. You just have to go in not expecting Breaking Bad or that kind of tone.

Probably took me a couple of episodes to really be hooked, but when I rewatched the first few episodes of season 1 again, knowing what to expect, it made the show much more interesting. Definitely has more things that you miss the first time when you rewatch episodes.

timtonymanu

06-03-2020, 07:24 PM

Cant say I disagree with that list. Pretty good.

Better Caul Saul season 5 probably gets it into your tier s. Fucking amazing.

Dexter also makes it into my A tier. At least partially. 1-5.

Better Call Saul is definitely on my watch list. Haven’t heard a single person that said that show isn’t good.

baseline bum

06-03-2020, 07:24 PM

At what point did anyone realize they liked this show or not? I've watched episode 1 twice now over the last several years and I think I maybe made it through episode 2 the 2nd time.

Same here. Feel the same way about Game of Thrones too.

baseline bum

06-03-2020, 07:26 PM

its not going to have the adrenaline of shows like Breaking Bad, it's definitely more of a slow burn. even sopranos was like that for the most part.

my S-Tier is Breaking Bad and GoT (yes, even with a shitty end to the run)

A-Tier is Wire, Sopranos, Mad Men, Better Call Saul (have not watched most recent season)

not including comedies

Damn I think mine would go:

S-Tier: The Wire
A-Tier: The Sopranos, Breaking Bad
B-Tier: Better Call Saul, Homeland

SpursforSix

06-03-2020, 07:31 PM

Same here. Feel the same way about Game of Thrones too.

Word. I started and stopped that 3 times. And I did end up watching the whole thing and while it was good to great at times, it was never consistently good enough to put it in my top 10. It doesn’t compare to shows that might have one “slow” episode a season like BB, The Wire, Sopranos, etc.

timtonymanu

06-03-2020, 07:57 PM

Same here. Feel the same way about Game of Thrones too.

Game of Thrones was made much worse by its shitty final season and ending. I have no intention of rewatching that entire series even though the first 4 seasons are fucking great because how much that final season pissed me off. I’m confident in saying Mad Men’s ending won’t disappoint me when i get through it all. :lol

Reck

06-03-2020, 08:15 PM

Game of Thrones was made much worse by its shitty final season and ending. I have no intention of rewatching that entire series even though the first 4 seasons are fucking great because how much that final season pissed me off. I’m confident in saying Mad Men’s ending won’t disappoint me when i get through it all. :lol

Mad Men definitely landed their ship intact.

So many shows start top tier and end up looking like goo.

Part of the reason why I dont watch TV shows on a weekly basis anymore. I let it pile up, look up reviews and whatnot and then decide to watch.

Reck

06-03-2020, 08:17 PM

Example, Westworld season 3.

:lol The reviews and consensus is that it's not worth it and trash.

ChumpDumper

06-03-2020, 10:13 PM

I thought Mad Men was really good but I have no desire to watch it again. Have rewatched several episodes of Breaking Bad but don't see myself going through the whole thing again. Will probably do the same with BCS when it's done.

I've followed much shittier shows than The Wire which I'm sure is excellent, but whenever I start it I get reminded of Homicide: Life on the Street by many of the same people. I just end up watching the first three seasons of that which is still some of the GOAT network television ever. Need to power through a few episodes and get into the storyline.

timtonymanu

06-03-2020, 10:20 PM

Damn I think mine would go:

S-Tier: The Wire
A-Tier: The Sopranos, Breaking Bad
B-Tier: Better Call Saul, Homeland

Mine is pretty close to yours.

S-Tier: The Wire
A-Tier: The Sopranos, Mad Men, Breaking Bad
B-Tier: The Shield, Deadwood

I have the feeling I'll like BCS enough to add it up there when I decide to watch it.

ChumpDumper

06-03-2020, 10:25 PM

I think BCS has been extraordinary given the constraints of a prequel. I'm glad they're stopping it soon. It might end up being one season too many but it's been great so far.

baseline bum

06-03-2020, 11:20 PM

ChumpDumper

06-03-2020, 11:32 PM

I think I was sold on The Wire pretty early, especially by these two scenes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGknlEWjxZc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztc7o0NzFrEYeah, I'm paying too much attention to the cops. Comparing them to the ensemble on Homicide is unfair.

Spurtacular

06-11-2020, 03:07 AM

I think I was sold on The Wire pretty early, especially by these two scenes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGknlEWjxZc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztc7o0NzFrE

I watched the first six or seven episodes. Somewhere down the line I'll probably finish it.
But based on that, this show feels very over-rated.

Spurtacular

06-11-2020, 03:08 AM

This popped into my feed...

....

“The Sopranos” (1999), it is generally agreed, is the show that kicked off what we know as the Golden Age. “Breaking Bad” — which started six months after “Mad Men” and ended two years earlier than “Person to Person” — marks the last show in the medium’s sudden transformation. Because “Mad Men” ended later — and because “Mad Men” ended, it felt, multiple times, with a protracted two-part goodbye where every scene felt like closure — it has the privilege and the curse of being the one to turn off the lights. At the point where “Mad Men’s” finale was slowly unfolding, it seemed bizarrely out of pace with the TV boom it had helped to spawn. While we were feverishly livetweeting it, the show seemed to move even more slowly, with a pooling energy that, looking back, is a close analogue to the bravura nothingness David Lynch displays in “Twin Peaks: The Return.” (Though the shows otherwise don’t have a lot in common, showrunner Matthew Weiner certainly has Lynch’s auteur aversion to spoilers (https://variety.com/2012/voices/opinion/will-matthew-weiners-plea-to-critics-be-heeded-3173/), too.)
“Mad Men” has had a long and lingering aftertaste. Several of its stars have done little else since the show ended, basking in post-finale glow, and yet the drama is already celebrating its 10th anniversary. But in its quiet aftermath — for while some shows end with a bang, “Mad Men” ended with cosmic infinity (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Exf63KPXF6w) — it took something with it, and that’s what prompts me to call it the last great drama of that era. When “Mad Men” debuted it was still astonishing that dramas would make bad men their lead characters. By the time it ended, critics and audiences were lamenting the glut of antihero stories. “Breaking Bad” was a brilliant show, of course. “Mad Men,” with its finale, made shows like “Breaking Bad” seem obsolete — made nearly any show about an antihero seem obsolete. Don Draper was the last antihero, and unlike several of his predecessors who either died brutally or left the careers that rewarded their twisted souls, he somehow found his way to inner peace in time to (probably) go back to McCann Erickson and write what creator Matthew Weiner calls “the best ad ever made.” (https://variety.com/2015/tv/news/matthew-weiner-on-mad-men-finale-you-cant-get-100-percent-approval-rating-1201501909/) “Mad Men” was a remarkable show in so many ways — a deeply stirring show, in so many ways — but perhaps its highest achievement is that because it so thoroughly interrogated its characters and its premise, it functionally (and politely) made itself obsolete.

...

https://getpocket.com/explore/item/mad-men-at-10-the-last-great-drama-of-tv-s-golden-age?utm_source=pocket-newtab

(https://getpocket.com/explore/item/mad-men-at-10-the-last-great-drama-of-tv-s-golden-age?utm_source=pocket-newtab)

Reck

06-11-2020, 01:53 PM

This popped into my feed...

https://getpocket.com/explore/item/mad-men-at-10-the-last-great-drama-of-tv-s-golden-age?utm_source=pocket-newtab

(https://getpocket.com/explore/item/mad-men-at-10-the-last-great-drama-of-tv-s-golden-age?utm_source=pocket-newtab)

You read a lot of girly sites. Get pocket?

Spurtacular

06-11-2020, 02:40 PM

You read a lot of girly sites. Get pocket?

I assume they're just one of many tools Mozilla uses for filling their feeds.
The article is Variety. And I'd expect it's based most specifically on my Mad Men views.
Though if it were somehow a more general occurrence, I don't know why I should be bothered.
You're trying too hard, tranny.

Spurtacular

06-12-2020, 02:42 AM

Watching this show for the first time before Netflix takes it off. Starting Season 7 now. I love this show.

https://observer.com/2020/05/netflix-mad-men-leaving-bidding-war-apple-tv-plus-starz-hbo-max-peacock/

In its newsletter earlier this week, Netflix announced that Mad Men would be departing the service on June 9.

:lol Did you make it?

......

In its newsletter earlier this week, Netflix announced that Mad Men would be departing the service on June 9. The market-leading streamer, which initially made a deal with Lionsgate for the series in 2011 at roughly $1 million per episode, reportedly (https://deadline.com/2020/05/mad-men-nears-global-license-deal-lionsgate-cites-production-freeze-streaming-boom-drive-demand-netflix-1202941170/) passed on extending the deal.

For Seinfeld (https://observer.com/2019/09/netflix-seinfeld-price-cost-ratings-viewership-info-details/), Netflix reportedly paid more than the $500 million Universal Television dropped to reclaim The Office for Peacock. WarnerMedia has shelled out $425 million for Friends, around $550 million for South Park (https://observer.com/2019/10/viacomcbs-south-park-bidding-war-netflix-hulu/), and roughly $600 million for The Big Bang Theory (https://observer.com/2019/08/hbo-max-price-streaming-shows-big-bang-theory-two-and-a-half-men/) to hit HBO Max. These are likely the top of the market and the exception to the rule. But that doesn’t mean that Mad Men‘s value hasn’t more than doubled in the ensuing years.

Reck

06-12-2020, 02:49 AM

https://observer.com/2020/05/netflix-mad-men-leaving-bidding-war-apple-tv-plus-starz-hbo-max-peacock/

:lol Did you make it?

......

Yeah just wait until AMC does the same with Breaking Bad and to a lesser extent Walking Dead who nobody even watches anymore.

Im thinking about giving HBO my prime spot for a while and re-drop Netflix. Cant really have both.

Spurtacular

06-12-2020, 02:55 AM

Yeah just wait until AMC does the same with Breaking Bad and to a lesser extent Walking Dead who nobody even watches anymore.

Im thinking about giving HBO my prime spot for a while and re-drop Netflix. Cant really have both.

That's what I'd do if so many people weren't hitched to my Netflix account.

I watched about seven or eight HBO series in 2020 and was slowing down, so I cut it 'til I get bored enough to renew. That may not be for months. I got Premier League soccer restarting and enough other stuff for now it seems. My favorite HBO show I watched recently was Six Feet Under. I would've watched it at the time had I realized it was that damn good.

Spurtacular

07-07-2020, 03:24 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ1Rbdi189w

Spurtacular

07-09-2020, 12:12 PM

And thus how we end up with a SCAMDEMIC.

https://www.needsomefun.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/mad-man-Don-Draper-quotes-2.jpg

SpursforSix

12-29-2020, 12:41 PM

spurraider21

12-29-2020, 01:32 PM

SpursforSix

12-29-2020, 01:37 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPW7_RQmSCU

Some of the funniest moments were the things that were considered OK in the 60's. The time that Sally was playing in a cleaner's bag and the mom just asked her to keep it down.
Or when they had the picnic and the mom just pulled the blanket out and left all the trash. And Don is chunking empty beer cans into the woods.

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spurraider21

12-29-2020, 01:55 PM

Some of the funniest moments were the things that were considered OK in the 60's. The time that Sally was playing in a cleaner's bag and the mom just asked her to keep it down.
Or when they had the picnic and the mom just pulled the blanket out and left all the trash. And Don is chunking empty beer cans into the woods.
yep, aside from the main plot and writing, the subtle commentary about the era is great throughout.

its not the most "exciting" show, more of a good consistent slow burn, but its really great

SpursforSix

12-29-2020, 02:37 PM

yep, aside from the main plot and writing, the subtle commentary about the era is great throughout.

its not the most "exciting" show, more of a good consistent slow burn, but its really great

I found myself getting tired of the home life shit and all the relationships between the husbands and wives. I guess it was important but I was way more interested in the office politics and the advertising element.

Spurtacular

12-30-2020, 06:50 AM

After getting through the first episode halfway and giving up a couple of times, I finally decided to watch this thing based on what everyone said about it.
Pretty close to 10/10. Maybe got into my top 5 shows of all time. The writing is as good as it gets.

I will say that Suits now seems to be a pretty obvious derivative of MM.

Suits does not hold a candle to Mad Men, tbh.

Arguably the best drama TV show of all-time. I'd rank it higher than Band Of Brothers, Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul.

Push come to shove I'd probably put it ahead of The Sopranos too.

SpursforSix

12-30-2020, 10:10 AM

Suits does not hold a candle to Mad Men, tbh.

Arguably the best drama TV show of all-time. I'd rank it higher than Band Of Brothers, Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul.

Push come to shove I'd probably put it ahead of The Sopranos too.

Totally agree it's better than Suits. I watched Suits because my wife started it. And it was good for a few seasons. I think I quit after Season 3 or so.
But once I started Mad Men, it seemed obvious that Suits used it as a template.
I'm not sure that I'd put it ahead of Sopranos but it's close enough for the conversation.

leemajors

12-30-2020, 11:02 AM

Reck

12-30-2020, 11:08 AM

Sopranos really peaked in season 2, did it not? After that it was meh

Much like BB, Sopranos never let off, imo.

Aside from the minor deviation with the deadbeat son storylines, it’s top tier stuff, man.

In no order at all:
Sopranos
The Wire
Breaking Bad

Then it’s everyone else.

spurraider21

12-30-2020, 11:11 AM

funniest shit about sopranos is re-watching S1E1 and hearing Tony's accent :lol

the pilot was filmed 2 years before the reason of the season and he didnt really start working with an accent coach until later

spurraider21

12-30-2020, 11:18 AM

Reck

12-30-2020, 11:30 AM

im still willing to put thrones in my top 3 despite the shit tier ending. i dont think that undoes years of it being among the most talked about cultural phenomena. definitely not the most consistently well put together series, but it was still something of a spectacle, and that still matters when it comes to TV entertainment

breaking bad
the wire
game of thrones
sopranos
mad men

(i still have not seen season 5 of better call saul)

For me Game of Thrones is too topsy turvy to be in any top 5. Def top 10 but just below elite.

It had 4 great seasons, a weak one and 2 so-so seasons with a shitty season 8 to cap it. Dexter is on the same boat for me. 1-4. Ok season 5 and laughably bad 6,7 and 8.

After you watch Better Call Saul season 5 you will bump out GOT from your top 5, guaranteed. It’s it’s best one yet.

spurraider21

12-30-2020, 11:42 AM

For me Game of Thrones is too topsy turvy to be in any top 5. Def top 10 but just below elite.

It had 4 great seasons, a weak one and 2 so-so seasons with a shitty season 8 to cap it. Dexter is on the same boat for me. 1-4. Ok season 5 and laughably bad 6,7 and 8.

After you watch Better Call Saul season 5 you will bump out GOT from your top 5, guaranteed. It’s it’s best one yet.
it would bump mad men out if thats the case, as that's my #5

dexter season 1-4 was pretty great, but not at peak thrones level, not even close. peak thrones is about as good as anything

SpursforSix

12-30-2020, 12:54 PM

im still willing to put thrones in my top 3 despite the shit tier ending. i dont think that undoes years of it being among the most talked about cultural phenomena. definitely not the most consistently well put together series, but it was still something of a spectacle, and that still matters when it comes to TV entertainment

breaking bad
the wire
game of thrones
sopranos
mad men

(i still have not seen season 5 of better call saul)

This is pretty close to my list. Except for GOT. I liked it a lot but it became tiring for me. Maybe because I binged it.
Better Call Saul would be the replacement in my Top 5. BB and The Wire are my clear 1 and 2 as well.

Spurtacular

12-30-2020, 09:30 PM

Much like BB, Sopranos never let off, imo.

Aside from the minor deviation with the deadbeat son storylines, it’s top tier stuff, man.

In no order at all:
Sopranos
The Wire
Breaking Bad

Then it’s everyone else.

Most over-rated show of all-time from what I've seen.

Spurtacular

12-30-2020, 09:45 PM

Totally agree it's better than Suits. I watched Suits because my wife started it. And it was good for a few seasons. I think I quit after Season 3 or so.
But once I started Mad Men, it seemed obvious that Suits used it as a template.
I'm not sure that I'd put it ahead of Sopranos but it's close enough for the conversation.

I think the template for Suits is probably closer to generic crime shows like CSI / Law & Order. They may have tried to borrow a bit from Mad Men / capitalize on people wanting the next thing in its wake though.

I've only watched the first season of Suits so far. It was barely watchable for the first few episodes and then it finally found it's stride. I haven't watched it all to give it a fair rating; but I doubt it's anywhere close to the top echelon.

I'm okay with someone rating Sopranos higher than Mad Men; but to me the latter is just sharper and very well done on the story and the cinematography as well as having top-flight acting (BCS the only one comparable on that front for me). Even little Sally Draper ended up being a great find in the final analysis. The boy not so much; but Glenn stepped in and filled that void.

Spurtacular

12-30-2020, 09:48 PM

im still willing to put thrones in my top 3 despite the shit tier ending.

Not me. I actually think that show could've been much better had it not gone with the fairy tale dragons and snow walker sh**.

SpursforSix

12-31-2020, 10:14 AM

I think the template for Suits is probably closer to generic crime shows like CSI / Law & Order. They may have tried to borrow a bit from Mad Men / capitalize on people wanting the next thing in its wake though.

I've only watched the first season of Suits so far. It was barely watchable for the first few episodes and then it finally found it's stride. I haven't watched it all to give it a fair rating; but I doubt it's anywhere close to the top echelon.

I'm okay with someone rating Sopranos higher than Mad Men; but to me the latter is just sharper and very well done on the story and the cinematography as well as having top-flight acting (BCS the only one comparable on that front for me). Even little Sally Draper ended up being a great find in the final analysis. The boy not so much; but Glenn stepped in and filled that void.

I don't think CSI/Law & Order are good comparisons. Neither really put any emphasis on the characters home lives or office politics.

Think about Mad Men and Suits...
The main characters in each worked for partnerships and neither was initially a partner.
Both were arguable the most talented person at their jobs.
Both did things a little unconventionally.
They both seemed to get all the chicks they wanted.
Eventually, they both became partners.
In both shows, there was the sexy redhead secretary that worked her way up to become a partner.
Both had the young cocky guy that was always trying to move up.
Both had a main character who had lied about his past and was always worried about it.
Both shows involved the characters fighting for clients.

This is just the obvious and off the top of my head.

IMO, Suits was clearly inspired by MM. And for a few seasons, was pretty entertaining.

I don't see any real similarities to procedurals like Law and Order.

Reck

12-31-2020, 11:31 AM

Not me. I actually think that show could've been much better had it not gone with the fairy tale dragons and snow walker sh**.

So omit the one thing that sold the show in the first place? :lol

The fantasy aspect of it was not the problem with the show later on, it was obvious the writing.

It did well for itself right up to the part where the fat fuck stopped the books. It then felt on Dennioff and Weiss to write the rest of the way and that did not end up well.

Without the white walkers and dragons, this show would have end up been just another political drama which is nothing special.

SpursforSix

12-31-2020, 11:49 AM

Reck

12-31-2020, 11:59 AM

Benioff

Thanks. I’m currently rewatching The Leftovers and kind of merged Benioff with an actual superior writer in Lindelof.

SpursforSix

12-31-2020, 12:05 PM

Thanks. I’m currently rewatching The Leftovers and kind of merged Benioff with an actual superior writer in Lindelof.

If you're a reader, I'd highly recommend his book, City of Thieves. I hate that the ended up doing screenplays because he seemed to be on the track for writing brilliant novels.

Spurtacular

01-01-2021, 08:53 AM

I don't think CSI/Law & Order are good comparisons. Neither really put any emphasis on the characters home lives or office politics.

Maybe. It's probably closest to House M.D. A law background instead of a medicine background.

Spurtacular

01-01-2021, 09:02 AM

Think about Mad Men and Suits...
The main characters in each worked for partnerships and neither was initially a partner.
Both were arguable the most talented person at their jobs.
Both did things a little unconventionally.
They both seemed to get all the chicks they wanted.
Eventually, they both became partners.
In both shows, there was the sexy redhead secretary that worked her way up to become a partner.
Both had the young cocky guy that was always trying to move up.
Both had a main character who had lied about his past and was always worried about it.
Both shows involved the characters fighting for clients.

This is just the obvious and off the top of my head.

IMO, Suits was clearly inspired by MM. And for a few seasons, was pretty entertaining.

I don't see any real similarities to procedurals like Law and Order.

Checkmarks that a lot of shows try to hit.

The reality is Mad Men is about the story / character. Everything is perfectly put together in a running thread.
Suits is much more of the traditional zany weekly adventure in which story points are often hastily plopped on and everything is perfectly wrapped up in a bow at the end.
I'm not trying to trash suits; it's enjoyable. But it's almost akin to pop art vs. great art. Granted, I don't think that lowly of Suits. But I do think that highly of Mad Men. Suits is an assembly line production whereas Mad Men is meticulously hand crafted. I don't think there was any real effort to make Suits like Mad Men. I think they were happy to monetize the hubris of bad ass office men post Mad Men. Harvey Specter is basically a lawyer superhero who is 157-0 in court. Don Draper may be GOAT. But you see him have to go through struggles and losses and hit really tough times. It's like a comic book vs. a classic novel.

Spurtacular

01-01-2021, 09:06 AM

So omit the one thing that sold the show in the first place? :lol

The fantasy aspect of it was not the problem with the show later on, it was obvious the writing.

It did well for itself right up to the part where the fat fuck stopped the books. It then felt on Dennioff and Weiss to write the rest of the way and that did not end up well.

Without the white walkers and dragons, this show would have end up been just another political drama which is nothing special.

I was liking the realms vs realms action well before the fantasy stuff was introduced. Perhaps some people prefer all that for their entertainment; but I don't think it really did much for the power of the story in the final analysis.