Favorite Rock band?

[Dave Mustaine]

>he thinks Radiohead is popular only because of Pablo Honey

It's not?

lol knowing nothing about one of your favorite bands

[redzero]

It's not?

lol knowing nothing about one of your favorite bands

lol thinking people listen to Radiohead only because of Creep

[Dave Mustaine]

lol thinking they don't

[redzero]

Yeah, Radiohead fans just love Pablo Honey! When they rank the Radiohead albums, it's always at the top of the list.

[Dave Mustaine]

pitchfork tells radiohead sheep in which order to rank them. im sorry the people that enjoy the same music as you listen what an awful music review website tells you.

[redzero]

>he thinks people need Pitchfork to tell them that Pablo Honey is a mediocre album at best

[Dave Mustaine]

you have them tell you everything else to listen to.

any list you post of favorite bands will no doubt be pitchfork approved.

[mavs>spurs2]

Redzero you're a fucking black man from New Orleans listening to the whitest shit i've ever heard of..i don't think your opinions carry much weight just sayin..

[redzero]

Really? Pitchfork loves Arcade Fire and I strongly dislike them. Pitchfork loves The Dismemberment Plan and I hate them. Pitchfork likes a bunch of shitty rappers like Curren$y and Gucci Mane.

You give Pitchfork far more credit than it's worth.

[redzero]

Redzero you're a fucking black man from New Orleans listening to the whitest shit i've ever heard of..i don't think your opinions carry much weight just sayin..

Sorry I don't listen to shitty, unimaginative, repetitive rap because it's "black."

:downspin:

I guess I'll keep listening to the white shit while you listen to some hack bragging about how gansta he is.

[Dave Mustaine]

that's not really what I said, but uh, ok.



You give Pitchfork far more credit than it's worth.

how very hipster of you.

[redzero]

You think I like bands because Pitchfork tells me to like them and that I can't think for myself.

It's funny that Pitchfork is usually brought up by somebody who hates them. You should probably stop talking about it if you don't like it.

I know that I don't talk about Pitchfork unless somebody brings them up.

[Dave Mustaine]

you wouldn't be caught dead saying you enjoy the site.

you're not really that different than Durst fan from a few pages ago.

[IronMexican]

I like reading pitchfork, brah.

I even read occasional reviews.

[redzero]

How do you know I enjoy Pitchfork? I don't read any of the reviews because they usually suck.

For example: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/8104-lateralus/


Eric Partridge's Dictionary of the Underworld (1998 NTC/Contemporary Publishing), a lexicon of 19th Century street slang, defines the idiom "pitch the fork" as "to tell a pitiful tale." The term appeared printed in 1863 in Story of a Lancashire Thief:

"Brummagem Joe, a cove ["fellow" or "dude," if you will] as could patter or pitch the fork with anyone."

At last, the secret motivation of my schtick and the etymology behind our name can be revealed. These reviews have been less critique than loquacious concept reviews by an entertaining tramp. So you'd think an 80-minute opus by Tool would be right up our alley. You'd be wrong.

Undertow, Tool's 1993 debut LP, took studio skill and over-trained chops to metal with aplomb. It was Rush Sabbath. As emotional, melodic metal goes (the cultural impact of which will be left to the reader), it opened doors for bands like the Deftones, and to some degree, Limp Bizkit. However, Tool have always possessed a latent understanding of absurdity and comedy; their videos look like Tim Burton stop-motion, goth Primus.

But with popularity and praise, Tool's shadowy tongue-in-cheek turned into the simple biting of tongues. \xC6nema spiced their sound with electronics and industry, as was the trend at the time. Now, with the early new century demanding "opuses," Tool follows suit. The problem is, Tool defines "opus" as taking their "defining element" (wanking sludge) and stretching it out to the maximum digital capacity of a compact disc.

Dictionary of the Underworld also offers several definitions for "tool," including: "a small boy used to creep through windows," "to steal from women's pockets," and "to loaf, to idle, to do nothing in particular." All of which oddly strike the nail on the head in relation to Lateralus.

And now, the obligatory pitching of the fork.

* * *

My Summer Vacation, by Crispin Fubert, Ms. Higgins' Eng. Comp. 901

I believe that music comes and goes in cycles, and some of us are lucky enough to ride the crests. The men in my family are perfect examples of this. Initially, I thought that perfect music appeared every 16 years, which is also the number of years between Fubert generations. My dad was born in 1971. In that year, landmark albums were released. They were Nursery Crime by Genesis (the first with Phil Collins), Yes Album by Yes, Aqualung by Jethro Tull, and In the Land of Grey and Pink by Caravan.

My grandfather skipped out on Vietnam-- because Jimi Hendrix himself told him to-- and he moved to Canterbury, which is in the United England. There, he got married to my grandmother, who used to sell baked goods to people at concerts, and they had my dad. After the war, they moved back with a box of awesome records like the ones I mentioned. I think it was cosmic or fate or something that my dad was born the same exact day Chrysalis released Aqualung, in March of 1971.

Jump ahead 16 years later and my dad got this girl pregnant, who turned out to be my mom. It was 1987 and a whole bunch of lame dance music was ruling the world, like Hitler or Jesus or something. But all of the sudden, albums like Metallica's ...And Justice for All, Celtic Frost's Into the Pandemonium, Queensryche's Operation: Mindcrime, and Slayer's South of Heaven came out. That's when I was born.

All those records were sitting around the house we all live in, and I grew up listening to them in the basement. So I couldn't wait until I was 16, because fate says that would be when 1) more kickass records would come out, and 2) I'd get sex. Both were due, because girls are dumb and listen to stuff like N'S(t)ync and BBSuk. But after this summer of 2001, I've had to rethink my entire cycle theory, like maybe the cycles of music are speeding as time goes forward, since two amazing things happened: Tool put out Lateralus and I saw Tool in concert.

I feel like this record was made just for me by super-smart aliens or something, because it's just like a cross of 1971 and 1987. Imagine, like, Peter Gabriel with batwings or a flower on his head singing while Lars Ulrich and Rick Wakeman just hammer it down. It's the best Tool record because it's the longest. All summer I worked at Gadzooks, folding novelty t-shirts, and on each break, I would listen to Lateralus because the store just plays hip-hop and dance. My manager would always get on me for taking my breaks 20 minutes too long, but that's how long the album is and it just sucks you in. It's like this big desert world with mountains of riffs, and drum thunderstorms just roll across the sky. The packaging is also cool, since it has this clear book with a skinless guy, and as you turn the pages, it rips off his muscles and stuff. Tool's music does the same thing. It can just rip the muscles and skin off you. I think that's what they meant. So my manager would be like, "Hey, there's a new box of 'Blunt Simpson' shirts I need you to put out and the 'Original Jackass' shelf is getting low." He's a vegan and I would buy him Orange Julius because he didn't know there's egg powder in there.

The first song is called "The Grudge," and it's about astrology and how people control stuff. Maynard sings like a robot or clone at the opening, spitting, "Wear the crutch like a crown/ Calculate what we will/ Will not tolerate/ Desperate to control/ All and everything." Tool know about space and math, and it's pretty complex. "Saturn ascends/ Not one but ten," he sings. No Doubt and R.E.M. sang out that, too, but those songs were wimpy and short. Maynard shows his intelligence with raw stats. I think there's meaning behind those numbers, like calculus. He also mentions "prison cell" and "tear it down" and "controlling" and "sinking deeper," which all symbolize how he feels. Seven minutes into the song, he does this awesome scream for 24 seconds straight, which is like the longest scream I've ever heard. Then at the end there's this part where Danny Carey hits every drum he has. This wall of drums just pounds you. Then the next song starts and it's quiet and trippy. Tool are the best metal band, since they can get trippy (almost pretty, but in a dark way) then just really loud. Most bands just do loud, so Tool is more prog.

Danny Carey is the best drummer in rock, dispute that and I know you are a dunce. I made a list of all of his gear (from the June issue of Modern Drummer):

Drums, Sonor Designer Series (bubinga wood): 8x14 snare (bronze), 8x8 tom, 10x10 tom, 16x14 tom, 18x16 floor tom, two 18x24 bass drums.

Cymbals, Paiste: 14" Sound Edge Dry Crisp hi-hats, 6" signature bell over 8" signature bell, 10" signature splash, 24" 2002 China, 18" signature full crash, #3 cup chime over #1 cup chime, 18" signature power crash, 12" signature Micro-Hat, 22" signature Dry Heavy ride, 22" signature Thin China, 20" signature Power crash.

Electronics: Simmons SDX pads, Korg Wave Drum, Roland MC-505, Oberheim TVS.

Hardware: Sonor stands, Sonor, Axis or Pro-Mark hi-hat stand, Axis or Pearl bass drum petals with Sonor or Pearl beaters (loose string tension, but with long throw).

Heads: Evans Power Center on snare batter (medium high tuning, no muffling), G2s on tom batters with G1s underneath (medium tuning with bottom head higher than batter), EQ3 bass drum batter with EQ3 resonant on front (medium tuning, with EQ pad touching front and back heads).

Sticks: Trueline Danny Carey model (wood tip).

He has his own sticks, even. In "Schism," the double basses just go nuts at the end. They also do in "Eon Blue Apocalypse." And in "The Grudge." And in "Ticks & Leeches." And nobody uses more toms in metal. You can really hear the 8x8 and 10x10 toms in the opening for "Ticks & Leeches." Over the summer, I counted the number of tom hits in that song, and it's 1,023!! Amazing. That's my favorite song, since it's the one that starts with Maynard screaming, "Suck it!" Then he says, "Little parasite." Later he shouts, "This is what you wanted... I hope you choke on it!" Every time I watched my boss suck down those Orange Juliuses I had that stuck in my head.

There is simply no way you could just dismiss the music (which is excellent). The bass playing is just really creepy and slow and sometimes it has this watery effect. Tool even follow in the footsteps of Caravan with Middle Eastern or Asian or something sounds. "Disposition" features bongos, and then on the next song, "Reflection," Carey's toms sound like bongos or tablas or whatever is in those Fruitopia commercials. Close your eyes and imagine if Asia had a space program. This is like the music they'd play. The song is called "Reflection" since it's quieter and slower and sounds like it's from India, where people go to reflect. Maynard's voice sounds like that little bleached midget girl flying around inside the walls in Polterghost. It's messed up.

In conclusion, there is more emotion on that album than would be on 30 Weezer albums. At the very least, there's 2.5 times as much. Like I said, it's messed up, like the world, which makes it very real. I don't think I'm going to have a kid this year, but that's also a good thing. Just imagine the Tool record that will come out in three years, according to my theory. It will be the future, and albums can be like longer with better compression and technology. Even as amazing as Lateralus is, I feel like there's a monster coming in three years. Music comes in cycles, and works on math, and my life and Tool are proof of that for sure.

— Brent DiCrescenzo, May 15, 2001

I don't even like Tool, but I know that this review is incoherent and idiotic.

The Fred Durst fan likes Limp Bizkit and admits it. I am indifferent to Pitchfork and only talk about it when somebody else brings it up (like you're doing now).

I think you should get Pitchfork off your mind because it clearly has effected you.

[Dave Mustaine]

I like reading pitchfork, brah.

I even read occasional reviews.

You're still an entry level hipster still getting to know the ropes. It's mandatory for you.

[Dave Mustaine]

How do you know I enjoy Pitchfork? I don't read any of the reviews because they usually suck.

For example: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/8104-lateralus/



I don't even like Tool, but I know that this review is incoherent and idiotic.

The Fred Durst fan likes Limp Bizkit and admits it. I am indifferent to Pitchfork and only talk about it when somebody else brings it up (like you're doing now).

I think you should get Pitchfork off your mind because it clearly has effected you.

son you don't have to go this far out of your way to defend yourself from being likened to Durst fan.

[Muser]

lmao nu metal

[redzero]

son you don't have to go this far out of your way to defend yourself from being likened to Durst fan.

Son, you don't have to bring up Pitchfork as an excuse when somebody likes a band you don't particularly care for.

[rjv]

u2

[Dave Mustaine]

Son, you don't have to bring up Pitchfork as an excuse when somebody likes a band you don't particularly care for.

you like radiohead? you can be honest, you often fall asleep at night thinking about Radiohead.

[IronMexican]

I fall asleep thinking about Radiohead all the time.

[Blackjack]

Damn, I had no idea about Pitchfork or any of those type of sites. I'm late to the interwebs and always just discovered my shit by going to a used record store or a CD Exchange or whatnot, tbh.

Now I guess I'm just gonna have to be rebellion, tbh. I'm stuck in my ways, tbqh. I just listen to what I like and discover shit randomly, iibth, fwiw.

Radiohead is not one of them, though, tbchaimnd, sons.






A big ol' Omnipotent :tu to the first poster who deciphers "tbchaimnd."

[dimsah]

What the hell is pitchfork?

FNM is still my favorite band of all time but I still can't listen to anything prior to Mike Patton because Chuck Mosely's vocals make me wanna kill myself. It's a shame because they had some damn good songs on their earlier albums.

[badfish22]

Damn, I had no idea about Pitchfork or any of those type of sites. I'm late to the interwebs and always just discovered my shit by going to a used record store or a CD Exchange or whatnot, tbh.

Now I guess I'm just gonna have to be rebellion, tbh. I'm stuck in my ways, tbqh. I just listen to what I like and discover shit randomly, iibth, fwiw.

Radiohead is not one of them, though, tbchaimnd, sons.






A big ol' Omnipotent :tu to the first poster who deciphers "tbchaimnd."

to be completely honest and in meaning no disrespect

boom bitches.

[DarkReign]

This was actually left off the soundtrack. Unmastered but it still gets it done.

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I...have...never...heard....that...before...

:worthy:

[Blackjack]

to be completely honest and in meaning no disrespect

boom bitches.


That is SO close, brah, and it's almost a technicality. But I think Pat Sajak would tell you to GTFO. It's harsh, but it just ain't the exact wording . . .

The big ol' :tu still awaits.

[badfish22]

god dammit blackjack

[Blackjack]

I...have...never...heard....that...before...

:worthy:

Check out YouTube if you're looking for Rage/Tool/Maynard. And I suggest picking up the Judgement Night soundtrack if you like the early collabos.

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[Spurminator]

Pitchfork is good reading. It's definitely on the snobby end of the music spectrum but there's nothing saying you have to agree with all of their reviews.

[Dave Mustaine]

Damn, I had no idea about Pitchfork







What the hell is pitchfork?



hipster victory, tbh.

[DarkReign]

Check out YouTube if you're looking for Rage/Tool/Maynard. And I suggest picking up the Judgement Night soundtrack if you like the early collabos.

qFXZTYT3-GI&feature=related

I never knew that was Maynard on that track.

I never claimed to be a music aficionado, though.

Interesting.

[DarkReign]

Slayer
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fn6gD5WYAD8

[DarkReign]

Soundgarden

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[DarkReign]

This is just a song I havent heard in fucking years that I just rediscovered while YTing these videos.

Holy shit.

XYUIPgz3nyM

[DarkReign]

Type O Negative

OhW92tY82_E

[IronMexican]

mYVNPcYDfFQ


You'll never hear a song as good as that. Maybe Epitaph.

[badfish22]

Maybe Epitaph.

:wakeup

[DarkReign]

Danzig

qC-W0_cv85E

yeoQI-SwI5w

F18jImie_AM

[IronMexican]

:wakeup

You don't like dat song?

[DarkReign]

This song was fucking made for a Robert Rodriguez film, seriously.

imSL9vs81uc

[badfish22]

used to tbh. Gave in a revisit a few days ago after all the beating off you've done to it. Its alright. Doesn't touch Animals.

[IronMexican]

Two of my favorite albums ever. Don't make me choose, brah.

[DarkReign]

The Cult

V0j8y2GuskE

dE1TDv_5BSM

[DarkReign]

Chevelle

y3J1YPIu4hU

[Spurminator]

1knO1Ip9oEg

[Muser]

Can't stand Slayer tbh

[Blackjack]

I gotta admit, old-school Cornell affects the fitting of my pants, tbhaihtwtmibtbhirdc . . .

Two big ol' Omnipotent :tu if you decipher that one and my sig to endorse/promote your greatness should you get it word-for-word.

[DarkReign]

Candlebox

Totally underrated band

iqvvo5mQNWM

[TE]

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Ahh, I listen to this while I'm in my research lab. Along with dozens of other Nirvana Tracks.

[Blackjack]

I gots respect for Candlebox.

[TE]

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Ahh, I listen to this while I'm in my research lab. Along with dozens of other Nirvana Tracks.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTRXzkRis-s


Mistake on the embed coding

[Muser]

Surprised nobody has mentioned Refused yet.

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

I like Pitchfork

I also like Radiohead

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[TE]

Surprised nobody has mentioned Refused yet.



pump the brakes!

[Spurminator]

I don't like this band but it needs to be shared.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4099/4760263629_63ee36bd4e_o.gif

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

Unreleased masterpiece

POmiH-DvJ1U

[Dave Mustaine]

more like justified abortion

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

Why do you have wavy hair?

[DarkReign]

Why do you have wavy hair?

Curlers, dood. It was all the rage back in the day.

[DarkReign]

1knO1Ip9oEg

You know they ruined hair bands, right?

Didnt Kip Winger go on to write a lot of music for other people?

[DarkReign]

You'll never hear a song as good as that. Maybe Epitaph.

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[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

Fuck curlers

[koriwhat]

floyd, ccr, the doors, iron maiden, slayer... too many to list.

[CubanSucks]

313 posts in 2 days? Is this a record for threads not about the Spurs winning a championship?

[Ignignokt]

floyd, ccr, the doors, iron maiden, slayer... too many to list.

calf tats???

[TE]

shinedown and sevendust are also two that come to mind...

[Kamala]

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg31/jazzyric/293230345_71d20abfb7.jpg

[DarkReign]

...so gay...

[Spurminator]

You know they ruined hair bands, right?

They didn't help, but I think the real scapegoat for the death of hair metal is Warrant's "Cherry Pie."

Full disclosure... as a 13-year-old 7th grader who got into modern rock and hair metal AFTER Nirvana killed it, one of my first CD purchases was Winger's Pull album, which came after their popular peak around the time they were being mocked on "Beavis and Butthead" and, frankly, it ain't all that bad...

[DarkReign]

They didn't help, but I think the real scapegoat for the death of hair metal is Warrant's "Cherry Pie."

Ah, the coup de grace.

I stand corrected. I remember hearing the lead singer talk about Cherry Pie, he was so ashamed it almost seemed to have ruined his life.


Full disclosure... as a 13-year-old 7th grader who got into modern rock and hair metal AFTER Nirvana killed it, one of my first CD purchases was Winger's Pull album, which came after their popular peak around the time they were being mocked on "Beavis and Butthead" and, frankly, it ain't all that bad...

I appreciate your honesty, that took balls (for being on an anonymous internet forum, as it were).

I was 8 in 1988/89 (headed for a heartbreak) with two older brothers. Winger wasnt on the set list, so to speak, but I remember them well (along with Nelson, Cinderella, et all).

What surprises me most and is an indictment for its time, Winger was considered heavy metal by critics of the time. I remember Adam Curry doing Metal Top10 (or whatever) and it was full of crooning hair bands.

[DarkReign]

With your disclosure, here is one of mine.

This is one of the better love songs ever written, for its simplicity and harmony.

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[Drachen]

Faith no More, and Alice in Chains. There are more, but I am still trying to figure out the heirarchy.

[SourCandy]

I don't go to deep into music like some of you guys. I don't know the history or what's considered true rock or fake rock. What it boils it down for me is...if it sounds good I like it. I don't need to justify it to some one who thinks their musical taste is better than everyone elses. I like some of limp bizkits songs ...along with lady gaga....so?
I mentioned those cause some of you seemed like you were getting a stroke just cause some one says they like them. I like other stuff mentioned as well not just them. But I pick and choose cause well it's my taste. Just cause I like some of linkin parks songs don't mean I will like others they have. In all honesty some are horrible as the same with radiohead. I like some not all some suck sorry to break it to you :)

[redzero]

I don't expect a chick to know anything about music.

[TE]

I don't expect a chick to know anything about music.



This is coming from a guy who likes the weirdest shit that came out of Pixie's playground...and only listens to weird shit because he is advised to by a poor cheap ass music review website. Go Figure.



This girl has some diversity, unlike you. Stop living in the 80's bro. New music comes and goes, and you just have to learn to appreciate it.

[IronMexican]

TooDeepForYou, Triggered.

[IronMexican]

Suburbs is the definition of a grower. Ready to Start is fucking god tier.

[Dave Mustaine]

thanks for sharing

[IronMexican]

Listen to it, brah.

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

Its really good, bought it yesterday

[Nathan Explosion]

Nirvana
Pearl Jam
Radiohead
Foo Fighters
Green Day
The Start
The Beatles (Was raised listening to the Beatles)
Queens of the Stone Age
Korn
Ministry
Deftones (Pre self titled album. I was with Deftones since Adrenaline, but from the Self Titled on was just crap)
Nine Inch Nails
ACDC
Offspring
Rage Against the Machine
Stone Temple Pilots (Purple was the shit and Interstate Love Song remains an amazing song to this day)
Toadies
Tool (pre-Lateralus, don't get me started)

Just to name a few.

As for Incubus, anything after S.C.I.E.N.C.E. was mediocre. Make yourself was pretty good, but in the end, not nearly as creative as the previous stuff. I still listen to it though. Never liked Morning View. Felt I heard it before, when it was Make Yourself.

[Nathan Explosion]

I don't go to deep into music like some of you guys. I don't know the history or what's considered true rock or fake rock. What it boils it down for me is...if it sounds good I like it. I don't need to justify it to some one who thinks their musical taste is better than everyone elses. I like some of limp bizkits songs ...along with lady gaga....so?
I mentioned those cause some of you seemed like you were getting a stroke just cause some one says they like them. I like other stuff mentioned as well not just them. But I pick and choose cause well it's my taste. Just cause I like some of linkin parks songs don't mean I will like others they have. In all honesty some are horrible as the same with radiohead. I like some not all some suck sorry to break it to you :)

My soon to be ex-wife was downloading Lady Gaga songs on my computer. I looked at her and said, "What happened to the girl I dated who loved Tool?"

When she started talking about how she liked Lady Gaga, I said, "Lady Gaga could be creative, if she was in the 80s and her name was Madonna."

I'm not much of a music snob, but some of these people are just blatant rip offs of others and people don't care.

[redzero]

Listen to it, brah.

If it's not dated 80's/90's metal, d4mvp DOES NOT WANT.

[IronMexican]

If it's not dated 80's/90's metal, d4mvp DOES NOT WANT.

His 20 Coldplay play's on last.fm say otherwise :lmao

[Dave Mustaine]

If it's not dated 80's/90's metal, d4mvp DOES NOT WANT.

That's pretty false. Metal isn't even my favorite genre. Out of my top 15 on last.fm, 2 are metal. I've been listening to Arcade Fire before IronCoconut even heard of them. Cool assumption brah :tu

[Dave Mustaine]

His 20 Coldplay play's on last.fm say otherwise :lmao

No need to be mad because I've called you out for being a poser hipster. Dude, C'mon.

[IronMexican]

lol omg I'm not a hipster. Hipster, as you said, is a lifestyle(Or did you say indie was a lifestyle?)

[Dave Mustaine]

son you can't distinguish the difference between the two?

[IronMexican]

I can't, brah. Both rock neckbeards, and both listen to the same music. Hipster's just try their hardest to listen to obscure music and hwhwhwhwatnot. I listen to pop-garbage like La Roux, so I can't be a hipster. I'd also have nothing but bands you've never heard of on my last.fm profile.

[Dave Mustaine]

furthering your poser status, tbh.

Dude, C'mon.

[badfish22]

My soon to be ex-wife was downloading Lady Gaga songs on my computer. I looked at her and said, "What happened to the girl I dated who loved Tool?"

When she started talking about how she liked Lady Gaga, I said, "Lady Gaga could be creative, if she was in the 80s and her name was Madonna."

I'm not much of a music snob, but some of these people are just blatant rip offs of others and people don't care.

TBH, someone could say "Tool could be creative, if they were in the 70s and named King Crimson."

[IronMexican]

I never gave Tool a listen, but if they sound like King Crimson, I'll give them a listen. Recommend me an album, brah.

[midnightpulp]

I can't, brah. Both rock neckbeards, and both listen to the same music. Hipster's just try their hardest to listen to obscure music and hwhwhwhwatnot. I listen to pop-garbage like La Roux, so I can't be a hipster. I'd also have nothing but bands you've never heard of on my last.fm profile.

But, see, being self-conscious of the fact that La Roux is "pop-garbage," and admitting you listen to it anyway is a hipster move.

[redzero]

lol omg I'm not a hipster. Hipster, as you said, is a lifestyle(Or did you say indie was a lifestyle?)

No, indie is a genre, hipster is a lifestyle.

[Dave Mustaine]

Tool is what Radiohead would be if they tuned down to drop d and somehow managed to write even more pseudo intellectual songs.

[midnightpulp]

That's pretty false. Metal isn't even my favorite genre. Out of my top 15 on last.fm, 2 are metal. I've been listening to Arcade Fire before IronCoconut even heard of them. Cool assumption brah :tu

Dirk, you like Wolf Parade?

[badfish22]

I never gave Tool a listen, but if they sound like King Crimson, I'll give them a listen. Recommend me an album, brah.

tbh I dont listen to Tool much. But I know they were heavily influenced by King Crimson so it was funny to see ToolFan scoffing artist that rip off other artist.

But Tool does have a few good songs. I used to be a fan a few years ago. I knew a lot of people that like Tool in the same magnitude that you like Radiohead tbh. There that kind of band that for some reason certain people get obsessed with.

[Dave Mustaine]

Dirk, you like Wolf Parade?

yeah I usually listen to them on my mac while at the local coffee shop.

[IronMexican]

But Tool does have a few good songs. I used to be a fan a few years ago. I knew a lot of people that like Tool in the same magnitude that you like Radiohead tbh. There that kind of band that for some reason certain people get obsessed with.

I hear that a lot. People always say Radiohead, Tool and Phish have the most pretentious(I don't even know what that word means) fanbase.

[IronMexican]

I thought midnight said wolfmother. Was going to call him a fag.

[midnightpulp]

yeah I usually listen to them on my mac while at the local coffee shop.

:lol

Queen Mary is a damn fine album, though. Has that anthemic sweep that defines great rock-and-roll. You could say it's the 00s version of Springsteen's Born to Run.

Can't get into Animal Collective, however.

[Dave Mustaine]

:lol

Queen Mary is a damn fine album, though. Has that anthemic sweep that defines great rock-and-roll. You could say it's the 00s version of Springsteen's Born to Run.

Can't get into Animal Collective, however.

I'll pass on anything compared to Bruce Springsteen, tbh.

[midnightpulp]

I'll pass on anything compared to Bruce Springsteen, tbh.

If you don't like Springsteen's mainstream fare, check out Nebraska. A very moody, atmospheric, haunting album. In making that record, Springsteen was influenced by Suicide of all bands.

Never liked Springsteen when I was entry level like IM, but I've grown to appreciate him.

[Dave Mustaine]

Thanks for the recommendation, Pat Bateman. I'll give it a try if I'm in the mood for some watered down dadrock.

[midnightpulp]

Thanks for the recommendation, Pat Bateman. I'll give it a try if I'm in the mood for some watered down dadrock.

Nebraska sounds nothing like dadrock, though.

[leemajors]

I don't like this band but it needs to be shared.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4099/4760263629_63ee36bd4e_o.gif

holy shit that is awesome. I had a joke about Van Haggar in mind but you shut it down. :lol

[midnightpulp]

Thanks for the recommendation, Pat Bateman. I'll give it a try if I'm in the mood for some watered down dadrock.


Patrick Bateman: Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Christy, take off your robe. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. Sabrina, remove your dress. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Sabrina, why don't you, uh, dance a little. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. Christy, get down on your knees so Sabrina can see your asshole. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.

[Dave Mustaine]

Nebraska sounds nothing like dadrock, though.

If I can break away from the NOTHINBUTMETAL I listen to long enough, I may try it sometime. However I can't say I'll listen to it with a bias for hating the guy for some reason.

[midnightpulp]

If I can break away from the NOTHINBUTMETAL I listen to long enough, I may try it sometime. However I can't say I'll listen to it with a bias for hating the guy for some reason.

I feel you on that. There's some artists out there I can just never be objective about.

Kill me now forum, but Led Zeppelin is one of those bands. Their Tolkien, medieval fantasy obsessions bug the shit out of me. Not to mention ripping off every important blues song that ever was.

Zep I and II are fine albums, classics, but after that, meh.

The Who is an infinitely better band.

[Dave Mustaine]

lol son how can you hate that they "covered" those old songs and then be a fan of LZ I and II?


The Who is an infinitely better band.

nonsense son. Page >(inifinity) Child Pron

[IronMexican]

Didn't they write like one song from LZ I?

[Dave Mustaine]

Zeppelin > radiohead

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

http://www.dryvetymeonlyne.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/YankeeHotelFoxtrot.jpg

I see you're listening to this album, IM. Fucking masterpiece.

Just bought this today, brilliant.

[IronMexican]

Just asking, cause midnight likes I and I don't think they wrote more than 1 song for that album.


and

>implying implications

[Dave Mustaine]

Debatable. A few of those songs are old blues standards that were covered and borrowed by a zillion bands then. Of course, people are gonna get their chode in a knot when people see their song on one of the world's biggest band's albums. Although they could've fixed it in the first place and given the writing credit to avoid people trying to bload them.

What I don't get is people never giving Nirvana much shit about blatantly ripping off the riffs to their 2 biggest songs.

[midnightpulp]

lol son how can you hate that they "covered" those old songs and then be a fan of LZ I and II?


nonsense son. Page >(inifinity) Child Pron

I'm a big fan of the blues and they did a fine job in covering and expanding on it. I guess I should've elaborated that them not giving credit at first and having to be sued by Willie Dixon for the truth to come out is what bugs me.

As far as Page vs. Townsend goes, as one music critic put it, "Pete can write circles around that glorified session cat Jimmy Page."

Page has more skill as a guitarist but not as a song writer, not even close.

[Dave Mustaine]

I'm a big fan of the blues and they did a fine job in covering and expanding on it. I guess I should've elaborated that them not giving credit at first and having to be sued by Willie Dixon for the truth to come out is what bugs me.

As far as Page vs. Townsend goes, as one music critic put it, "Pete can write circles around that glorified session cat Jimmy Page."

Page has more skill as a guitarist but not as a song writer, not even close.

What really sets Page apart from Child Pron is his mastery in the studio and as a sound engineer. However, being probably the best riff writer in rock music doesn't hurt either.

[midnightpulp]

For the record, I don't hate Led Zeppelin. I quite like them, I just don't believe they're the all time greatest classic hard rock band.

But I admit my bias toward them plays a role in my opinion.

[midnightpulp]

What really sets Page apart from Child Pron is his mastery in the studio and as a sound engineer. However, being probably the best riff writer in rock music doesn't hurt either.

Being objective here, all biases aside, many critics consider Child Pron the better overall song writer, composer, and producer.

But Page is obviously a much better guitarist.

[Leetonidas]

I'm a big fan of the blues and they did a fine job in covering and expanding on it. I guess I should've elaborated that them not giving credit at first and having to be sued by Willie Dixon for the truth to come out is what bugs me.

As far as Page vs. Townsend goes, as one music critic put it, "Pete can write circles around that glorified session cat Jimmy Page."

Page has more skill as a guitarist but not as a song writer, not even close.

I wouldn't really call it not giving credit. As stated, a lot of that blues is based on old folk lyrics and stuff that is borrowed by different musicians and packaged differently. From Jimmy:

"As far as my end of it goes, I always tried to bring something fresh to anything that I used. I always made sure to come up with some variation. In fact, I think in most cases, you would never know what the original source could be. Maybe not in every case – but in most cases. So most of the comparisons rest on the lyrics. And Robert was supposed to change the lyrics, and he didn't always do that – which is what brought on most of the grief. They couldn't get us on the guitar parts of the music, but they nailed us on the lyrics. We did, however, take some liberties, I must say [laughs]. But never mind; we did try to do the right thing"

"The thing is they were traditional lyrics and they went back far before a lot of people that one related them to. The riffs we did were totally different, also, from the ones that had come before, apart from something like "You Shook Me" and "I Can't Quit You," which were attributed to Willie Dixon. The thing with "Bring It On Home," Christ, there's only a tiny bit taken from Sonny Boy Williamson's version and we threw that in as a tribute to him. People say, "Oh, 'Bring It On Home' is stolen." Well, there's only a little bit in the song that relates to anything that had gone before it, just the end"

[midnightpulp]

I wouldn't really call it not giving credit. As stated, a lot of that blues is based on old folk lyrics and stuff that is borrowed by different musicians and packaged differently. From Jimmy:

"As far as my end of it goes, I always tried to bring something fresh to anything that I used. I always made sure to come up with some variation. In fact, I think in most cases, you would never know what the original source could be. Maybe not in every case – but in most cases. So most of the comparisons rest on the lyrics. And Robert was supposed to change the lyrics, and he didn't always do that – which is what brought on most of the grief. They couldn't get us on the guitar parts of the music, but they nailed us on the lyrics. We did, however, take some liberties, I must say [laughs]. But never mind; we did try to do the right thing"

"The thing is they were traditional lyrics and they went back far before a lot of people that one related them to. The riffs we did were totally different, also, from the ones that had come before, apart from something like "You Shook Me" and "I Can't Quit You," which were attributed to Willie Dixon. The thing with "Bring It On Home," Christ, there's only a tiny bit taken from Sonny Boy Williamson's version and we threw that in as a tribute to him. People say, "Oh, 'Bring It On Home' is stolen." Well, there's only a little bit in the song that relates to anything that had gone before it, just the end"

I understand that, but in Dixon's case, those were his original songs and not public domain standards.

I don't think Zep had any ill intent to rip off Dixon or anyone else. They revere the blues as about as much as it can be revered. I believe it was an honest oversight, but you never know, especially when you consider the integrity of the recording industry.

[IronMexican]

Throw it on Plant:lol

[Leetonidas]

Throw it on Plant:lol

Yeah I kinda wondered what was up with that as well. :lol Dem Brits.

[midnightpulp]

Throw it on Plant:lol

Are you a Zep fan, Mex?

[Dave Mustaine]

Are you a Zep fan, Mex?

He used to jag off non stop about them, always asking JT for a youtube link of their stuff before he changed into what we know him as.

[Leetonidas]

And I would have to say Led Zeppelin is probably my favorite "true" rock band. Rock doesn't really exist anymore, all we have is shitty brometal and emo bullshit.

[IronMexican]

They're pretty cool, brah.

[Leetonidas]

Cool comment bro

[IronMexican]

I haven't gave them a listen to in months, though. Dunno why? Maybe I'll listen to them again later.

[midnightpulp]

He used to jag off non stop about them, always asking JT for a youtube link of their stuff before he changed into what we know him as.

lol.

Just threw it on the old record player. I love they way this record starts out with Black Dog and Rock-and-Roll, but I can't just get into Evermore and Stairway, no matter how hard I try. I guess I just prefer Zep when they're straight forward and kicking ass, rather than trying to be "deep" and lyrical.

http://i35.tinypic.com/29z4zea.jpg

[Leetonidas]

lol.

Just threw it on the old record player. I love they way this record starts out with Black Dog and Rock-and-Roll, but I can't just get into Evermore and Stairway, no matter how hard I try. I guess I just prefer Zep when they're straight forward and kicking ass, rather than trying to be "deep" and lyrical.

http://i35.tinypic.com/29z4zea.jpg

The Battle of Evermore is about LOTR, I don't think it's meant to be deep, just a tribute to Robert's favorite book I guess. :lol

Also is that your LP? If so, nice man, you don't see a lot of those. I have that one too, along with a few others.

[Dave Mustaine]

lol.

Just threw it on the old record player. I love they way this record starts out with Black Dog and Rock-and-Roll, but I can't just get into Evermore and Stairway, no matter how hard I try. I guess I just prefer Zep when they're straight forward and kicking ass, rather than trying to be "deep" and lyrical.

http://i35.tinypic.com/29z4zea.jpg


I purposefully avoid Stairway To Heaven if I can help it unless I really want to listen to it, then I watch the version from 73, and it usually kicks me in my ass.

[midnightpulp]

The Battle of Evermore is about LOTR, I don't think it's meant to be deep, just a tribute to Robert's favorite book I guess. :lol

Also is that your LP? If so, nice man, you don't see a lot of those. I have that one too, along with a few others.

Yeah, my LP.

So much better quality than CDs, or MP3s, but a pain in the ass to take care of at times. Records usually should be cleaned before every play, according to audiophile fags.

[Dave Mustaine]

And I would have to say Led Zeppelin is probably my favorite "true" rock band. Rock doesn't really exist anymore, all we have is shitty brometal and emo bullshit.

lmao brometal. cool term tbh. One of my amigos has thoroughly worn out Disturbed a few years ago. I'm not sure how he could listen to another second of that bullshit.

[IronMexican]

I couldn't listen to another second of Disturbed either. I hate when someone picks Down with the Sickness on rockband.

[Leetonidas]

Yeah man, vinyls kick ass. Unfortunately I don't own a record player anymore, as when I got my collection I was living with my old roommate and he had a badass record player with surround sound, not to mention a fucking massive record collection. I am truly envious of his collection.

Currently my collection consists of Wish You Were Here, Dark Side of the Moon, Ummagumma, Led Zeppelin III and IV, and The Song Remains the Same album from their movie...oh and some Aerosmith one, forget which.

You would figure this shit would be worth more but they actually go fairly cheap on ebay.

[Leetonidas]

lmao brometal. cool term tbh. One of my amigos has thoroughly worn out Disturbed a few years ago. I'm not sure how he could listen to another second of that bullshit.

Dude, Disturbed is like THE brometal band of today. Shine Down, Five Finger Death Punch, Three Days Grace, etc...all horrible brometal bands. And they play that shit constantly on 99.5. :bang

[midnightpulp]

Yeah man, vinyls kick ass. Unfortunately I don't own a record player anymore, as when I got my collection I was living with my old roommate and he had a badass record player with surround sound, not to mention a fucking massive record collection. I am truly envious of his collection.

Currently my collection consists of Wish You Were Here, Dark Side of the Moon, Ummagumma, Led Zeppelin III and IV, and The Song Remains the Same album from their movie...oh and some Aerosmith one, forget which.

You would figure this shit would be worth more but they actually go fairly cheap on ebay.

Yeah, 5-10.00 including shipping for most lps. I usually work the thrift stores and pay .25 to 2.00 a piece.

I can only see records getting cheaper. I don't think people of our generation can sustain interest in collecting it when when torrents exist, as well as music services like last.fm and napster, which are great mind you, but there's nothing like throwing a record onto a platter.

[TE]

Dude, Disturbed is like THE brometal band of today. Shine Down, Five Finger Death Punch, Three Days Grace, etc...all horrible brometal bands. And they play that shit constantly on 99.5. :bang



I personally think radio stations should play RATM more often, but they'd be asking for some revolt (imho)

[Leetonidas]

No offense brah but I fucking hate RATM too. I can't say I've heard a lot of their music but the shit they do play on the radio is awful, especially "Killing in the Name Of..."

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

RATM sucks, blows, stinks, etc..

[TE]

RATM sucks, blows, stinks, etc..


says this guy

[TE]

No offense brah but I fucking hate RATM too. I can't say I've heard a lot of their music but the shit they do play on the radio is awful, especially "Killing in the Name Of..."




listen to their first and last albums...



it's ridiculously good.

[thedong]

16 shameful pages, and not even a single mention of TV on the Radio.

[thedong]

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[redzero]

16 shameful pages, and not even a single mention of TV on the Radio.

If you like Return To Cookie Mountain more than Dear Science, you don't know shit about music.

[thedong]

If you like Return To Cookie Mountain more than Dear Science, you don't know shit about music.

Why you gotta be so serious bro? I liked both albums, I just think that at this particular moment, Im kinda digging the song DLZ a whole lot.

[IronMaxipad]

Is Punk allowed in here!?? Fuck it. I'll throw it in here, even though it's probably to raw for yall. :downspin:

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Big A, little A, bouncing B
The system might have got you but it won't get me

1 - 2 - 3 - 4

External control are you gonna let them get you?
Do you wanna be a prisoner in the boundaries they set you?
You say you want to be yourself, by christ do you think they'll let you?
They're out to get you get you get you get you get you get you get you

Hello, hello, hello, this is the Lord God, can you hear?
Hellfire and damnation's what I've got for you down there
On earth I have ambassadors, archbishop, vicar, pope
We'll blind you with morality, you'd best abandon any hope,
We're telling you you'd better pray cos you were born in sin
Right from the start we'll build a cell and then we'll lock you in
We sit in holy judgement condemning those that stray
We offer our forgiveness, but first we'll make you pay

External control are you gonna let them get you?
Do you wanna be a prisoner in the boundaries they set you?
You say you want to be yourself, by christ do you think they'll let you?
They're out to get you get you get you get you get you get you get you

Hello, hello, hello, now here's a massage from your queen
As figurehead of the status quo I set the social scene
I'm most concerned about my people, I want to give them peace
So I'm making sure they stay in line with my army and police
My prisons and my mental homes have ever open doors
For those amongst my subjects who dare to ask for more
Unruliness and disrespect are things I can't allow
So I'll see the peasants grovel if they refuse to bow

External control are you gonna let them get you?
Do you wanna be a prisoner in the boundaries they set you?
You say you want to be yourself, by christ do you think they'll let you?
They're out to get you get you get you get you get you get you get you

Introducing the Prime Sinister, she's a mother to us all
Like the dutch boy's finger in the dyke her arse is in the wall
Holding back the future waiting for the seas to part
If Moses did it with is faith, she'll do it with an army
Who at times of threatened crisis are certain to be there
Guarding national heritage no matter what or where
Palaces for kings and queens, mansions for the rich
Protection for the wealthy, defence of privilege
They've learnt the ropes In Ireland, engaged in civil war
Fighting for the ruling classes in their battle against the poor
So Ireland's just an island? It's an island of the mind
Great Britain? Future? Bollocks, you'd better look behind
Round every other corner stands P.C. 1984
Guardian of the future, he'll implement the law
He's there as a grim reminder that no matter what you do
Big brothers system's always there with his beady eyes on you
From God to local bobby, in home and street and school
They've got your name and number while you've just got their rule
We've got to look for methods to undermine those powers
It's time to change the tables. The future must be ours

Big A, little A, bouncing B
The system might have got you but it won't get me

Be exactly who you want to be, do what you want to do
I am he and she is she but you're the only you
No one else has got your eyes, can see the things you see
It's up to you to change your life and my life's up to me
The problems that you suffer from are problems that you make
The shit we have to climb through is the shit we choose to take
If you don't like the life you live, change it now it's yours
Nothing has effects if you don't recognise the cause
If the programme's not the one you want, get up, turn off the set
It's only you that can decide what life you're gonna get
If you don't like religion you can be the antichrist
If your tired of politics you can be an anarchist
But no one ever changed the church by pulling down a steeple
And you'll never change the system by bombing number ten
Systems just aren't made of bricks they're mostly made of people
You may send them into hiding, but they'll be back again
If you don't like the rules they make, refuse to play their game
If you don't want to be a number, don't give them your name
If you don't want to be caught out, refuse to hear their question
Silence is a virtue, use it for your own protection
They'll try to make you play their game, refuse to show your face
If you don't want to be beaten down, refuse to join their race
Be exactly who you want to be, do what you want to do
I am he and she is she but you're they only you

[Sense]

Arcade Fire about to go live on youtube... you should check it out

[DarkReign]

Just wanted to say to the peeps who mentioned Incubus...

Nice fucking call. Just bought Morning View and it is awesome.

[Dave Mustaine]

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:tu :tu

thedong with the goods, tbh imo. Brothers is a very good album.

[Dave Mustaine]

oh hi extra post

[DarkReign]

I never gave Tool a listen, but if they sound like King Crimson, I'll give them a listen. Recommend me an album, brah.

Album: Opiate

Song: Opiate

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[PublicOption]

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[slacker77]

Just wanted to say to the peeps who mentioned Incubus...

Nice fucking call. Just bought Morning View and it is awesome.

If you like that,you'll dig this.
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[Sense]

Just wanted to say to the peeps who mentioned Incubus...

Nice fucking call. Just bought Morning View and it is awesome.

:toast

although I must say I didn't expect you not to have it.

[z0sa]

this thread already having 400+ posts in a week.. rock lives! How many posts does hiphopheads>>>>> have in 3 years again? :lol

[Muser]

I'm really getting into Judas Priest lately, the Painkiller album is a masterpiece.

[TE]

this thread already having 400+ posts in a week.. rock lives! How many posts does hiphopheads>>>>> have in 3 years again? :lol



Quite relishing ain't it?

[z0sa]

It's a fine thing, indeed.

[Dr. Gonzo]

At this moment my favorite 5 bands are:

1. Atari Teenage Riot
2. Crystal Method
3. Alice in Chains
4. Reel Big Fish
5. Def Leppard

But aside from the top spot, the other 4 change almost bi-weekly.

[Supreme_Being]

http://www.mediapost.com/directories/profileFiles/139170/Dream_theater.jpg

[TE]

I've been the only one to mentioned Deftones and Team sleep...

my guess is that no one really pays attention to them for lack of liking in instrumental, experimental type music.

I prefer Team Sleep more...

check this beautiful instrumental out. it sends chills up my spine just listening to such beautiful riff..
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[TE]

If you like that,you'll dig this.
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this song is my favorite from that album...





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this song is my second favorite from Incubus





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And this song is by far my favorite, beautiful all around composition of lyrics, song meaning, grace, art, wow... This song has it all.




SO many Incubus songs are undervalued, if only people appreciated the philosophy and artistic grace that Incubus is about, we'd be a happier more expressed generation.
:toast

[TE]

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This song by far is one that I use while I drive, work out, work in my lab, study chemistry/physics, or even after a fight with my GF, family, friend, etc...


It's just so damn good, it's a shame people don't recognize this beautiful masterpiece.

[dickface]

this thread already having 400+ posts in a week.. rock lives! How many posts does hiphopheads>>>>> have in 3 years again? :lol
maybe you need to apologize to all hiphopheads after that comment.

[JamStone]

My first cd was Boston. Great song writing and musicianship. I know they're more on the "soft" side of rock and some of their instrumental sections get a little unnecessarily long, but I still dug their style a lot and how they'd transition from mellow to fast and harder in the same song. Back then songs could be 5-6 minutes long and be like two or three different songs in one. "Let Me Take You Home Tonight" and "Long Time" still kick ass when I listen to them.

Growing up (late 80s/early 90s), I listened to a lot of Pearl Jam and Red Hot Chili Peppers up to probably BSSM. I pretty much only like them with Frusciante at guitar. Probably two of my favorite bands around that time.

Probably my favorite band though was Jane's Addiction. I really got into them. Around that same time in the late 80s and early 90s, alternative rock was still in its infant stages. And Jane had that really unique sound, eclectic, strange, sometimes disconnected vocal melodies and guitar rhythms, original drum counts. Didn't know what to make of them at first. "Ritual de lo Habitual" was just really a revelation to me. It wasn't metal and it wasn't soft rock and it wasn't just regular hard rock. Their longer, stranger songs like "Then She Did" and "Of Course" just really made me listen to the musicianship. Never really heard a male singer sound like that before, not even Michael Jackson or Freddy Mercury. So feminine in vocal range yet not really feminine sounding. I got out of listening to any type of rock around 1995 or so when I started exclusively listening to hip hop. So more contemporary rock bands (outside of Rage and Sublime) since then I'm actually very unfamiliar with. I'm sure there has been great rock music since, but I just haven't listened to much of it.

[DarkReign]

I'm really getting into Judas Priest lately, the Painkiller album is a masterpiece.

Try and find the Rocka Rolla album. THAT is a masterpiece. It was before the 80 glam of Screaming with Vengeance.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_06CdFynhqMk/R46_viATikI/AAAAAAAAADk/TN2s_cm1_z8/s320/judas_priest_-_rocka_rolla_a.jpg

[DarkReign]

:toast

although I must say I didn't expect you not to have it.

I am real shitty at keeping up with music. Its not a lack of interest, its a lack of filter. I have no acumen for wading through all the shit that the industry produces.

[DarkReign]

Probably my favorite band though was Jane's Addiction. I really got into them. Around that same time in the late 80s and early 90s, alternative rock was still in its infant stages. And Jane had that really unique sound, eclectic, strange, sometimes disconnected vocal melodies and guitar rhythms, original drum counts. Didn't know what to make of them at first. "Ritual de lo Habitual" was just really a revelation to me. It wasn't metal and it wasn't soft rock and it wasn't just regular hard rock. Their longer, stranger songs like "Then She Did" and "Of Course" just really made me listen to the musicianship. Never really heard a male singer sound like that before, not even Michael Jackson or Freddy Mercury. So feminine in vocal range yet not really feminine sounding. I got out of listening to any type of rock around 1995 or so when I started exclusively listening to hip hop. So more contemporary rock bands (outside of Rage and Sublime) since then I'm actually very unfamiliar with. I'm sure there has been great rock music since, but I just haven't listened to much of it.

The XXX album is mint, but I havent been able to find it in any record stores (the few times I have looked in 10+ years).

[JamStone]

Triple X wasn't released under any major record company. Jane recorded it independently before they started recording with Warner Bros. Subsequently, I don't believer there was mass distribution of that album and its rights aren't with any major company (I assume). If you really wanted to get it, guaranteed you could buy a copy online. I just checked, and there are some copies on Amazon. It's worth it because there are several really good songs on there beyond the Sympathy cover, including an original of "Pigs in Zen," a morbid ballad called "I Would For You," and a pretty cool song called "My Time." They're still evidently raw on Triple X and the production quality is also obviously not that great. The "Sympathy" cover alone is worth a purchase. But these days, you can find pretty much every song on youtube and convert it, if you do that kind of thing.

[JudynTX]

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[DarkReign]

Triple X wasn't released under any major record company. Jane recorded it independently before they started recording with Warner Bros. Subsequently, I don't believer there was mass distribution of that album and its rights aren't with any major company (I assume). If you really wanted to get it, guaranteed you could buy a copy online. I just checked, and there are some copies on Amazon. It's worth it because there are several really good songs on there beyond the Sympathy cover, including an original of "Pigs in Zen," a morbid ballad called "I Would For You," and a pretty cool song called "My Time." They're still evidently raw on Triple X and the production quality is also obviously not that great. The "Sympathy" cover alone is worth a purchase. But these days, you can find pretty much every song on youtube and convert it, if you do that kind of thing.

You just blowed my mind. "I Would For You" is the song that I remember most from that album.

Also, I didnt know half the shit about the album as you did, all I remember was that it was a bad-ass album (from what I remember as a kid) and since you mentioned Jane's, I mentioned XXX.

[DarkReign]

As an aside, I thoroughly enjoy bands that sound "raw" or unproduced. I like the haphazard nature of unfiltered emotion and negligence.

[Vagina]

I'm partial to the Runaways.

[z0sa]

As an aside, I thoroughly enjoy bands that sound "raw" or unproduced. I like the haphazard nature of unfiltered emotion and negligence.

That's an interesting point. Some of rock's greatest albums and even artists were loved not for their revolutionary studio techniques but for their unabashed "live" type of sound.

[IronMexican]

Let me try to do a top 5 of what I'm listening to the most at the moment.

1. Radiohead
2. Acracde Fire
3. King Crimson
4. Joy Division
5. Genesis

[HeadBanger]

Can't pick a favorite. Too many great ones out there.

[Venti Quattro]

is it bad if one of my most favorite rock bands are the beatles?

anyway, i also like:
-The Kinks
-U2
-Radiohead
-RHCP
-Muse

[JoeChalupa]

is it bad if one of my most favorite rock bands are the beatles?

anyway, i also like:
-The Kinks
-U2
-Radiohead
-RHCP
-Muse

It could be since the Beatles are one of my favorites.

[Texas_Ranger]

I've just found out that this band is from my county Slovenia. And this song rocks

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[DarkReign]

I've just found out that this band is from my county Slovenia. And this song rocks

I am not trying to bust chops, but no, that song does not rock, IMO.